nku5:


Na me get Sahara Reporters

I can't envy a criminal no matter how much blood money is in his bank account.

Sahara is your source of facts, no wonder you get barren results

nku5:


At least you did not deny that Tinubu is a curse to yoruba land. A drug addict/dealer, charlatan and leader of touts. No renowned igbo leader is known for being a drug addict and dealer

http://saharareporters.com/2009/02/18/bola-tinubus-heroin-tainted-assets-forfeiture-judgement

You secretly envy his success hence throwing every muck you can find at him.

But reality is his name shall not depart from thy mouth

DabuIIIT:

The clear reasoning of an kid adult!

Was Akinwunmi Adeshina not one of Gejs ministers! Was he not outstanding! Is he not the same Akinyemi president of ADB today?

Your tinubu/Akande/gbajabiamila whatever that means brought about political rascality to the national assembly and that what Saraki also did,remember he was an APC senator when he became senate president! When he couldn't take the attacks anymore from APC,he decamped to PDP.
The heads of the nass are not for the president to give,they are zoned in a multi ethnic country like ours to cater for every regions as possibly can but you yoruba people from Mars and your rascal APC ruined everything. Gej tried his best to maintain that balance and I'm very sure if he didn't do anything,you same yorubas would've attacked him more.


AND ONE MORE CLEAR TRUTH,GEJ NEVER WORKED FOR THE SO CALLED MANIPULATIVE EXTINCTION OD THE ACN. DURING OBJS SECOND TENURE, THE THEN AD LOST ALL ITS STATES RO THE PDP EXCEPT LAGOS STATE.
SAME THING HAPPENED 2011 UNDER GEJ.
BUT UNDER SAME GEJ,THE AD WHICH HAD METAMORPHOSED INTO THE ACN WON BACK THOSE SW STATES PDP WON THROUGH THEIR RESPECTIVE STATES ELECTION TRIBUNALS!!!!!! THE TRIBUNAL HANDED BACK ALL THE STATES TO ACN!!!
NOBODY WENT TO THE SUPREME COURT TO CHALLENGE!!

THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON OBJ BECAME ANGRY WITH STARTED ATTACKING GEJ.

SO BABA AKANDE,AN OLD MAN AT THAT WAS VERY ECONOMICAL WITH THE TRUTH AGAINST THE INNOCENT GEJ. POSTERITY AND THE LAND WILL FOREVER BE KIND TO GEJ AND JUDGE YOU YORUBAS.
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This one is still crying for Innocent Jonathan who has since learnt from his errors and moved on. He is less active in PDP and might even join APC any moment from now. How sad someone will remain static for the better part of 7 years.

ivandragon:



Results like having herdsmen almost overruning the SW...

Thank God for the Grand Commander of Amotekun that stood his ground. As a member of apc, it is safe to say your opinions are biased, you are however entitled to them.

Herdsmen issue and clash with farmers are not newly invented issues and it will be solved. Were there no herdsmen issue in your state in the last 22 years? How are you solving it beyond using it for political mileage?

Results like:
Lagos Ibadan SGR railway
2 new seaports approved in Lagos
Major road projects PDP failed to do

Political posts are means to an end. SW is getting the ends, those who slept when they had power or access to power are crying foul. Learn how to use power when you ever come across it again.

ivandragon:


Yet, you are the one who quoted me first with a contrary opinion. You see why I said you are confused?

So how much is your daily rate for your own opinion?

ivandragon:


Finally, something we can agree on & the beauty of democracy is even the minority will have a voice.

Why are you then forcing a choice or fait accompli on ACN?

ivandragon:


Lol. You know, it would have been interesting to actually get to know you.

I can bet you are one of those political touts who hail politicians as long as they drop crumbs for them...

Typical emotionally undeveloped kids, little Hitler's who can't handle opposing ideas because any belief or view point apart from theirs must have been paid for.

nku5:
Tinubu is the biggest curse to Yoruba land since Afonja

What a sneaky, unprincipled and filthy man. The recent revelation that he wanted a muslim/Muslim ticket with Atiku and Buhari is confirmation that the man is scum.

Says okoro man from a confused, aimless, leaderless region

ivandragon:



Since you are getting fat returns, why are you crying more than the bereaved?

Why do you feel the need to so vehemently defend an action taken more than 9 years ago?

Why do you assume that critics are either Igbos or pdp supporters?

On one hand you say political positions should have a national outlook, on another hand, you claim it is a Yourba strategy to get power...

Can't you see you are confused & grasping at straws?

You have shown yourself to be very infantile in reasoning & a pupil of politicians whose stock in trade is 'killing' their own just to advance thier selfish interests.

But then again, you are entitled to your poison...

You're still letting your emotion control you.

Mulika Adeola is still very much alive and playing her politics. She still has her democratic rights to remain in PDP, join APC or any party if her choice.

You are not PDP supporters but want to develop a coronary over PDP political failure that led to their loss of power. You can only deceive your fellow losers.

I support ACN now in APC and fully endorse their strategy that has delivered results, you can choke on that

ivandragon:



Lol. Look who is talking about tribal politics.

Same you saying how it was a long term strategy for the SW to gain power?

You see why I said you are confused?

Emotional wreck? Lol. You are the one who feels the need to defend a position that exposes your shallow & selfish aims, a position you are entitled to.

Every region of the country comprising different nations come with strategies, alliances and compromise to gain advantage in quest for power and development of it's people.

Some plans will work while others will fail. Don't envy success but learn from your failures and go back to the drawing board.
Be a good sportsman, stop trying to upturn the table each time you lose and accept the results only when you win.

ivandragon:



Akande stated what was already known & people commented, yet you are here stressing yourself & giving examples that do not correlate to the subject matter.

PDP wanted a PDP SW Speaker & solicited support from the then ACN which rejected the idea. Instead, it threw its weight behind a northern.

The crux is that the ACN started claiming that the SW was marginalised in the distribution of elective political offices at the NASS... but akande has firmly put that to rest & confirmed that Muki was sacrificed for selfish interests. Case closed.

PDP and Mulika ambition for speaker is for spiritual reasons?

Hope this kids will ever grow up.

ivandragon:


Lol.
Children hiding behind an anonymous forum. You wouldn't know a strategy if it hit you smack dab in the face.

Again, you & your kind with vampiric visions of grandeur are entitled to your strategies.

You may wish to sacrifice your children for your own selfish future plans, that is your choice. Others also have a choice to critic such action.

You're emotionally underdeveloped, a 5 year old is probably better balanced than you are.

What do you know about strategy? All you know is aimless fight, strike and think later.

Critic as much as you wish and explain what you'd have done in that situation? Ngige was not voted to the Senate probably because you don't want APC to develop a power center in a PDP zone. That's politics. Any wailing on the loss of the Senate presidency by SE can only be seen from the angle of politics not pity. Only the uninitiated and simple minded will be deceived by the noise of marginalisation. Only time will tell if the strategy yields results.

You see this Mulika decision has yielded ACN very fat returns and is still proving to be the right call. PDP and it's supporters can't be happy with it.

slivertongue:



Pa Akanda confirmed what we already know. They rejected their own yet still voted the PDP. Pa Akanda is technically demarketing the SW. Thank God he acknowledged Gej reaching out to them. In the US opposition ain't given a chamber free. It's actually won based on seats garnered. Same party refused to practice what it suggested to Gej. Funny lots

There are 2 candidates presented by PDP and ACN chose the one that best suited their long term interest. Why are you wailing on their democratic choice? You hoped they would choose the Yoruba candidate but they chose otherwise and distrupted PDP top leadership plans. That's politics, ACN was not in existence to help PDP maintain its hegemony just as PDP is not expected to help APC maintain its hold on Federal power.

Buccalcavity2:
Why will you begrudge an opposition for doing its job. If truly pdp had majority(not on paper), why did GEJ reach out to opposition. So you want opposition to support a big power broker(-to be) from their region of strength and later battle that same individual in subsequent elections? Why did opposition support Saraki in 2015? Oh PDP can do it but ACN cannot?
If it is truly about pleasing a region, why didn't GEJ make a SWner prominent in his cabinet which he doesn't need opposition input for?
Politicians play thier game and don't see ethnicity.
No betrayer here!

They are mere PDP die in the wool supporters pretending to be taking a moral high ground. That's why they can't bring themselves to acknowledge PDP did a similar thing in 2015.

Trentee4eva:

Are you sensible at all? They supported Tambuwal from the same PDP against a South West candidate.

So what? But you will expect Elrufai to support Osinbajo or Tinubu for president instead of Atiku or Saraki.

Or if Atiku becomes president you will now expect him and other northerners to support SE pdp candidate if APC presents a northern candidate.

Bantu10:


We are conquering ur region and u re here talking bullshit. When we buy up all ur lands and send u to Dahomey, that is when the reality will dawn on u.

All the properties you are buying is less than 5% of SW land and it's all on 99 lease. From the the next 40 years the lease will start expiring and the land and properties on it will revert to the SW people.
Who is really smart at the end of the day, Ndi developer

ivandragon:


You are still not making sense.

You seem to want to argue a point simply because you are under duress to do so.

What was done has been done, does it mean others cannot have thier opinion on issues without your ilk jumping all over the place?

You imply it is nobody's business how that specific event of 2011 played out, you are the same person ranting all over the thread how you stick to the decision made by others... that's your position, so why worry about what others feel? After all, it changes nothing at this time.

It's a 10 year old issue boy, and we were clear of the strategy while dummies were laughing that SW was played out of any national position.
Since it changes nothing why are you almost having a coronary over a book written mentioning an open event? You and your Ilk don't understand it how a people can sacrifice an opportunity to make free money not by mistake but deliberately.

ivandragon:


Again, you are exhibiting signs of confusion.

You play your politics your way, so others cannot have contrary opinions?

I don't get how some of you reason...

We are all freely expressing our opinion here but yours is absolute trash and nonsense.

ACN that won elections in Anambra, Edo, Benue etc apart from SW must vote for any Yoruba candidate presented by any party is the most backward, retrogressive, outlandish and horrible political idea anyone should publicly advance.

ivandragon:



It is obvious you are mentally unbalanced.

You are grasping at straws to justify what exactly? An issue with some of you impish kids is you assume those who have contrary opinions from those of your vile paymasters whose bidding you do are automatically from another ethnic nationality.

This simply makes an ass of you & shows you cannot tolerate dissenting views aside from those that support your narrow perspective.

If other ethnic nationalities chose a path that promotes selfish interest of a few, that's thier choice & for those who wish to call them out, they are entitled to do so.

So, you are free to sell your family so that tomorrow you can amass wealth for yourself & give crumbs to others, that is your choice.

You can have your opinion, you've expressed it and I'm here to tell you it's trash, myopic, clannish, tribal idea that has no place in national politics.

You can come from anywhere, Koma, Birom or Egun, it changes nothing about the fact that you're an emotional wreckage.

Ruke1989:
so have you got the much desired developmental projects now under your messiah buhari? Truth is every Yoruba man is tribalistic and views the SE/SS people with contempt. Was it devt that made you guys extend your insult to all SS tribes calling them drunkards, dumb, etc in 2015? You were all hateful towards other southern tribes because of the promise of tinubu presidency not because of projects. Your son Obasanjo didn't give you any project and you should bear the shame rather than look for other tribes to insult. Up till today your messiah buhari gave you no projects as far as Ekiti, ondo, osun, Ogun, Ibadan are concerned. Neither will tinubu the asslicker give you any thing. You are a selfish deceptive tribe Try to hold your son's responsible rather than look for other tribes to blame for your under development which confirm you have non performing governors. In the SS or SE there is no federal project since 1999, the whole FG attention goes to Lagos, Abuja and north. You don't see us wail because we hurstle rather than throw jabs on poor southwest citizens over the failure of their brother OBJ and their messiah buhari

No projects??
Within 6 years
Lagos Ibadan SGR railway
Lagos ibadan expressway almost complete
Apapa port railway extension
FG support for Blue and Red line light rail
Lekki seaport Approval ongoing construction
Badagry seaport Approval
Oyo Ogbomoso expressway ongoing
Amongst other infrastructure projects

Now list the projects PDP delivered to your region for your 22 years support

UTILITYMAY:


Setting their eyes on something bigger? Having a Senate President Office is not big enough. An office that would position them to influence whatever it is they are looking for in the future. They lack political understanding and permutations.

If they had no bigger ambitions and went ahead to sacrifice the Senate presidency on the alter of emotions that's their cup of tea.

You can see how ACN sacrificed the Mulika pawn and got Speaker plus VP few years later and are now the most talked about regarding the 2023 presidency.

If SE had no such strategy good luck to them

ivandragon:


Childish assertions... there is no wailing here.

What I observe from your ilk is a shame & a futile attempt to claim a strategy you had no idea existed in the first place, but now want to claim ownership of to hid what was, quite literally, a shameful display of substituting national interest with individual selfish interest.

Very soon your ilk will say ACN is a regional party and can only chose or vote for Yoruba. Now that they went national and teamed up other regions in the country you're wailing that they must only vote for Yoruba in all elections.
This is looking like a kind of dissonance

ivandragon:



First off, I am not your 'bro'.

Second, how people play thier politics is up to them. Politics is give & take. If you decide to sacrifice your own today so that you can gain a selfish advantage in future, that is your choice. People have a right to question & support or condemn such choice.

However, my humble opinion is that acn could have mobilised for a yoruba from acn rather than Northern from pdp at the time.

You want to chose for ACN whom they must support or vote for, did you finance their party or bought nomination forms for them?

What kind of psychological wrecks are these?

ivandragon:


You are obviously a child masquerading as an adolescent.

There is no one way to play politics. If you chose to have no values to the extent that you sacrifice your own family for cheap political gains, that is up to you.

Further more, expressing an opinion is not lamenting. But you are too myopic to understand that I guess.

Unbalanced kids, with fragile emotions
People who didn't vote Ojukwu and supported PDP instead or abandoned Moghalu to vote for Atiku presidency.

They are here bleating that SW ACN must support Mulika a member of an opposition party. Kindergarten kids are smarter than you people.

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Come and hold my hand.
If you don't want to see my writing get out of here or stop posting rubbish

DabuIIIT:

It's not about taking panadol for your headache,it's about us southerners!!!!
The north will never betray their own no matter what in this magnitude for a southerner!!!!
After then Patricia Etteh left,Bankoke was brought in. Bankoke didn't make to the house and it was naturai for Mulikat or the Muraino to take the position irrespective of their numbers. Every other zones already agreed to that even the north. The north only grabbed the opportunity cos you yorubas stupidly presented it to them!!!!
That was how you same myopic yoruba people stupidly "OTO GE" bukola saraki out of the senate and agay,the core north grabbed and took away the position!!! Please you people are terrible. You are horrible. You are strange.

.

You're the one being stupid as you can't see beyond your nose.
You cant want Saraki on behalf of Kwara people, invite him to represent your constituency if you love him so much

DabuIIIT:

There's no 4kn way you can sugarcoat a lie to make it become the truth.
Nobody is talking about minority here. There was a perfect working zoning structure in place then...APC and tinubu and co only succeeded in bringing about political rascality. Unrepentant BETRAYERS who are ready to sell off their fathers land to stranger for
a penny.

What stopped you people then for voting for Mulikat or the other muraino whatever his name is?
Ok if they were only two,what the hell stopped you guys from canvassing for someone from the SS or SE,fellow southerners in their numbers in the House so the south retains the Speakership?
Why did you strange people decide to vote for a northerner under the same PDP? Are you sure you guys are not from Mars!!!!?

You people are terrible!!! You guys are horrible!!!! And have been painting the innocent GEJ in bad light all these years

Still letting your emotion have control

DabuIIIT:


Big f...@ 40,I'm not Igbo..

You can be whatever you like, only you can control your emotions, stop letting it control you.

DabuIIIT:

Auzubillai menasheitan nirajeem

Nonsense unstable emotions

DabuIIIT:

Old man keep quiet..the question still remains,why were you people then blaming Jonathan over the years for your phantom marginalisation?! It's now you are telling everyone you were playing politics after you and your evil deeds have been exposed

The real marginalisation was in lack of investment in infrastructure not temporary appointment. A speaker that can be removed the next day by a majority of his colleagues can't be so crucial to SW strategic interest except for control and elections.
Appointments will come and go but infrastructure remains.

The argument of lack of appointment is just good for visual appeal just like SE is using it against Buhari.

DabuIIIT:


Highly laughable,you are!!!! My God!!!!
What a pity....see how all of you are sweating profusely in the pants to hide the exposed truth!!!!

And all these years, you people were blaming GEJ for marginalising the west!!!
You people never gave this rogue explanation then until now your lies have been exposed... What a shame you all are.

You shall not escape karma.

It was never a secret, it was in the open. Only dummies would not understand the game going on in 2011. If Mulika has become speaker, ACN might have remained a regional party and die off gradually like APGA.

Chess players see 4 to 6 moved ahead, so do astute politicians

DabuIIIT:


Those people are evil.
The witch that's disturbing a man's life at night is always the one accusing him everyday of not prospering in life...that's yorubas for you.



Word on marble: NEVER TRUST A YORUBA MAN

Was SW pretending they were supporting PDP or Jonathan and gave control of their states to ACN?
Is that not enough indication of where they are going and the only way to align is give them what they want?

Maybe GEJ could have defected to ACN and convince his supporters to follow him before they cut a deal with CPC.