$1250 btc available @ N495/$. Preev rate only. I'm on whatsapp

Note: I've been officially and unofficially labeled a scammer. Don't trade with me but if you can risk it, come on

WebContractor:


Stop casting aspersions.
Which US Contact again?
The transfer slip you quoted has the contact details of the sender and phone number.
You conducted a private investigation for almost 3 months and you cant even get the contact details that are just under your nose.
You threatened to block me on whatsapp.But I went ahead to block you myself.I can't be receiving insults from people like you.
Your conduct shows that you are no different from a fraudster.
You claim you are in a deep mess yet you have provided no proof.Even when we offered to assist.
The fact that you told us that you have a special account to receive fraudulent monies tells us your story.
And now you claim we have nothing to talk about.I guess you will just run back to your hole.
There was no money in your account when it was closed.
You claimed you had money trapped.Well the bank can't keep your money forever.6months is around the corner and your lies will soon expire.
Pay up.

You owe us 1.1 million with interests.

If you need proofs, you have my banking details. CALL BANK OF AMERICA. I won't do my investigations and come here to give you my results. Nah! yes, six months is around the corner, and I will get my money.... don't tell me you are waiting for the six months. I thought you didn't believe all my "lies and stories".

You dey bench. Kwantinue

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tooltip:



It took you over 1 month to build your lies even after its very glaring that you wanted to build some level of trust with us before defraudING us

At some point you claimed that you shared your accounts...And I was the only one you gave the bank of america account to, whereas I have proof that you were receiving funds from other agents into the same account


You forgot you blocked me on whatsapp and threatened to get nasty with me when we asked for a definite date when you were going to pay up your debt

Keep crying victim here when it's clear that you were never reliable and your antecedents place you as some e with a shady background..

I have facilitated deposits and transfers for lots of people on nairaland and none of them had issues.

No oxsamm88 we won't take the fall for your greed and stupidity and shady dealings

For posterity sakes nobody on nairaland will do business with you because you were the most unreliable bit coin seller/exchanger

I blocked you on whatsapp when you told me I need to pay interest on the funds (I was mad that someone who got my account blocked, my funds held, does not even know the gravity of what is at stake). Unlike you with all your threats, mine won't be empty. I won't even threaten you. And ask people.... I still conduct my business. It might not be on the large scale due to my withheld funds but I will get it sooner than later. I will clear my name and come back at you.

This will be my final response, what is coming after you is more than what you can ever imagine.

If you can't release your US CONTACTS.... We have nothing to talk about. I believe this should be easy if your funds are clean. You facilitating funds does not means they are clean. I'm just one of the unlucky ones.

DOLLAR BUYERS; BEWARE OF TOOLTIP AND HIS COHORTS. 90% OF THEIR FUNDS ARE FRAUDULENT

Hey! Stop begging ELOT to talk to me.... deal with me directly

tooltip:


What middle ground sir?......If he had a charge back of 40k $ he wouldn't be online ranting

Soon after Oxsamm88 refused to pay for the 20k $ deposit made for him...claiming that all his funds were stuck in the account, the owners of the funds went to the bank and found out that he had no monies in the late account

They threatened to sue before he remitted the bulk of the naira value that night

He is just a shameless scammer who never had any naira but relied on the "trusted exchangers list to hoodwink us"

The dated chats were from December. A week after access to my account was lost. I didn't even know the kind of mess I was into then. I thought it was a normal account closure due to the way I operated the account so I think I should get my balance in few days and pay him his money but later it escalated to a fraudulent case with time. In the spirit of business... I wanted to pay out of pocket, (thinking at least I will have my money when I get my balance) but fortunately I was N1 short. If I had know this payment was fraudulent from the onset, I won't pay a cent. You were lucky I let my guard off..... i trusted blindly.

What I need from you are the names of your contacts in the US since you are a broker. If they are here, they will understand the procedure better and we can sort this out.

sanky346:
I have been silently reading this episode since it is started. I am quite experienced in this currency trading business so I guess I should make my contribution. I don't know Oxsam888, Webcontractor and Tooltip, so I can give a balanced opinion. If the information made available by both party is true, these are my assertions:

1. Firstly we must all agree with ourselves that this is an high risk business. Inspite of online reputation, this is a faceless transaction and it comes with attendant risk. For the fact that the seller and buyer know don't each other makes it a delicate one. If you are not resilient, you can easily develop high blood pressure with this currency trading , most especially on the part of the sellers because in most times, they are just intermediaries/brokers. They don't own the funds. Immediately the owner of the fund sends the payment slip to you, he is on your neck for his Naira payment. At that point the pressure turns on the broker. And at this point, the recipient relax. He/she already has the funds anyways so he can take his time. So anyone doing this business, must first accept the fact that the attendant risk involved is high.

2. Transfers are DEADLY- It surprises me when people cast aspersion on cash deposits. From my close to TEN years experience in this business, cash deposit is the safest. Though its not completely insulated from fraud, its still way better than transfers. Bank transfers done SIX months ago can still be recalled if its fraudulent. The person that did the transfer can also be fraudulent at times too. They transfer to you, you pay them the naira equivalent, three weeks after they go back to the bank to claim it was fraudulent. I have seen lots of cases like this. Cash refund is difficult to make without the consent of the account owners.

3. Oxsam888 should not have taken that transfer. Immediately he discovered it was a transfer, he should have declined and the transfer will have been recalled. Doing that means he won't be under any obligation whatsoever. That will have been consistent. By accepting to take the transfer, fully aware of the risk involved, it means he accepted the risk that came along with it.

4. Having accepted the risk of the transfer, the result of the investigation he did is "inconsequential". Very painful but its the fact.

5. Webcontractor and Tooltip are only brokers. They mediate between the buyer and the seller. Brokers also owe it a duty to the seller that the funds are legit. This is not foolproof too as they can't really know that for a fact, and can only take what the seller tells them as the truth.

6. MY CONCLUSION: This deal has gone bad. If we are to go strictly by the letters & spirits of the transaction, Oxsam takes bulk of the fall. However, business transactions also have human faces. As shown by his account screenshots, his account has also being blocked. We should find a middle ground. Oxsamm, Tooltip and Webcontractor should come to the table and both parties should be willing to shift ground and make sacrifices. Issues will always happen in business. Throwing accusations around won't help. No matter how careful you get with future transactions, issues can still happen. Life will go on all the same. So Nairalanders, please let's not take sides. Let's help them find a common ground. Both parties should meet at the middle point.

My one cent.


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Thanks for the insight. I really appreciate. The funds came back as fraudulent exactly three weeks later (by that time, I've paid and we done at least five more transactions). At first, I was skeptical and concerned and we spoke at length with tooltip giving me assurances that all was well. So I went ahead which was my greatest mistake. It was a business decision which I got wrong. And I fully take responsibility. I should have rejected. Now this has cost me

A Bank of America business account (I won't be able to open one again for life)
My wife's account (she won't be able to do likewise)
My bank balance ($86k; was told will take up to six month for their investigation)
A flag history (other financial institutions will be alert in my future dealings that is if they want to do business with me)
Uncertainty of the outcome of their investigation (imagine sleeping at night and not knowing what will happen tomorrow; this trump administration)
I can't imagine how much I would have made with $86k in the past two months. These period wey btc na hot cake

I'm responsible for my actions and I hope the tooltip (broker) take responsibility for the fraudulent transaction and stop claiming ignorance and crying foul as if I defrauded him. He has nothing to lose. I am the victim here

HazzanTazzan:


But oga said the sender went to the originating bank for a refund and the bank said the receiving acct isn't funded...

Maybe I'm getting it wrong

Who is the oga? (I guess tooltip). Well, if your bank account is closed, it will be labeled ZERO. They told me they will release my balance after their investigation. Meanwhile, my wife's account was closed too (this account is not linked to me in anyway) but she got her balance in two weeks ($1) though.

If a fraud case it opened, the originating bank will take it up. Even if the defending account is not funded, it will be overdrawn. They won't wait for you. So that statement (But oga said the sender went to the originating bank for a refund and the bank said the receiving acct isn't funded...) is false

PayPal is a good example

HazzanTazzan:


And the bragging goes on and on...

U claimed the funds u recieved were fraudulent but u still got out those funds from the acct ...

Don't be a thief bro...

Pay them their money ...

I got out the funds? Says who? I still have my balance with Bank of America pending.... what is at stake for me is more than money. How would you explain a fraudulent money deposited into your account and withdrawn? Even if you refund, you still have to explain why you withdrew the money in the first place if I claim the transaction was not authorized.

I will ignore the thief comment..... I've replied to the point you made

Funlordmaniac:



Small boy..I can see that hunger has almost finished you hence why you are now coming online with your epistles of contrition! Anyway have you:

1: Paid tooltip his N1.1 million yet?

2: Given webcontractor and tooltip a long over due apology for your foolishness?


All this action film you want to direct for us starring one white lady and the FBI is pointless! Show us evidence of the case you have initiated against your accusers with screen shots of the documents that you are using in building your case, both with the FBI, efcc or whoever! Or post the evidence that has been asked of you since last year of the banks documents showing that the supposed funds they paid to you were fraudulent and the pending follow up! Instead you are here posting nairaland past convos like a dingbat!


I'm sure the cash is finished that's why your sense has come back? Or madam don dey put you under pressure? Bills don dey pile up? I know you will wail and bark as usual like the junkyard dog you are but you know my style na......merciless!

FOR A MONIKER (Time registered: February 02, 2017), not yet time. Your boss are talking. I knew all tooltip proteges and faction go come show face but I won't give scammer the audience needed. If none of your boss can explain their relationship with the sender of the funds in question, ENTER THE WALL. I'm smarter.... I always catch my enemies unaware

FYI.... IF YOU EVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENTER JFK, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT 1M NA ONE MONTH HOUSE RENT. Once again .... ENTER THE WALL