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Agaugust: ''same way your south african Gripen jet pilots traveled to sweden to learn how to fly Gripen jets and build capacity by going back again to sweden for multinational joint training.....or you think your pilots learned how to fly Gripen jets by sitting down at home in soweto and reading the manufacturer's manual ? you are just a big joke man !''

Me: Part of the Agreement upon purchasing our Gripen 'F-7 killer' multi-role Jet was that SAAB would train our first first six pilots. It's really not 'the same way' as Pakistanis coming to the rescue of the miserable NAF. We still were able to train more competent pilots right here at home so please don't compare us with your joke of an Airforce.

No our Pilots learn to fly by going through rigorous training with our Pilatus PC7 MKII and Hawk 120s.. Something your Duck Force can't do.

We returned to Sweden to participate in the Lion-Effort Exercise along with other Gripen users, NOT to be lectured on how to fly and maintain our Aircraft like your Nigerian Duck Force. MAJOR DIFFERENCE.


Agaugust: ''well about shooting down nigerian jets, ALL your current Gripen jet pilots have ZERO combat experience and hardly ever practice, they just drink and get drunk as i showed you in those photos, all you have are a bunch of half-baked alcohol intoxicated jet pilots....they will probably shoot each other down in the air and call it 'friendly fire accidents' ''

Me: When Jetsuzo Iwamoto, one of the best WW2 Aces first flew against the Chinese, did his zero combat experience stop him from gaining Air combat kills? NO. Why? Because He was well trained just like the SAAF Gripen pilots.
When Lee Archer, another WW2 Ace of the famous Tuskegee Air Men first flew against the Germans did it stop him from executing his first combat duties with excellence? NO! Why? Because He was trained well... Same as our Gripen pilots!
I can assure you than our 'zero combat experience' pilots will turn your F-7 & Alpha Jets into giant balls of flames.

For the second time, those pilots are celebrating an occasion with wine. But i won't be suprised if you bring up this strawman argument again. You strawman!

As for accidents, you know that's what your Nigerian Duck Force is good at. Lol

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''Lol your Gripen jet pilots are only a bunch of drunkards who spend their time drinking away their youth and career instead of flying to be competent.''

I see three well-trained pilots celebrating an occassion with expensive LeRoux wine behind a Multirole Aircraft. How you come to the conclusion that they are alcoholics beats me.

''only 6 of them are qualified, the rest of your Gripen jets pilots would have crashed into Shoprite malls and kill innocent p.eople, the only reason we dont see them crashing is because they dont really fly at all and practice combat maneuvers.''

There are a total of 9 qualified Griphen pilots while more than a dozen of potential Griphen pilots and navigators are still in training. Six are at 2 Squadron. Repeating false arguments over and again won't make them true, buddy! Be creative! We aren't the Pathetic Air Force that either bombs villages or crashes all the time. On the other hand, Nigerian Air Force is so incompetent that they rely on pakistanis for maintainenace, Training and capacity building.

DefenceWeb: Pakistani assisting the Nigerian Air Force. Tuesday, 21 May 2013

''The pakistani Air Force is assisting the Nigerian Air Force with maintenance and training for it's F-7 fighter jets in buidling the Air Force's capacity''

''The pakistanis were brought in following several crashes and the loss of maintenance schedules, which resulted in the grounding of the fleet in October 2012. After assistance from the Pakistani Air Force, THE JETS WERE CLEARED TO FLY AGAIN''

Where would the unprofessional & incompetent NAF be without the help of Pakistan? It seems Nothing ever goes right in the 'Giant of Africa'.

''.. In addition to the F-7s, the NAF was looking for assistance with it's C-130 transport aircraft, as well as instructor pilots for them, and also wanted help training pilots at the Nigerian Air Academy.''

Ai.. How pathetic can an Air Force be that it would lack the capacity of training capable Pilots? Damn our Saab Griphens would have a field day blowing up what's left of Naaigeria. Being the unprofessional people you are, you won't know what hit you!

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''south african Hungwe drone too is a piece of over-rated crap !!!! ''

The Hungwe can never be crap for it is better in all respects than your Gulma/Amebo drone that the brits helped built for your pathetic military.

''if you want to trade insults about nigerian equipment, i am ready to pay you back in your own coin. you ready for a fight ? ''

Bring it on, Agaugust.


''Russia helped China to build MiG 21 and later F-7 jet. China helped Pakistan to build JF-17 jet. Israel helped South Africa to build Cheetah jet.''

And so? What is your point? What do you understand about an indigenously made product/equipment?


''ALL South African missile technology in DENEL today came from direct Israeli help/wholesale transfer with training, technology, designs, blue prints, and working engineers all from Israel which South Africa paid for in cash.''

Yeah right, And I am a SuperHuman able to Out manoeuvre your F-7 aircrafts and can
cruise at Mach 5.

''so whats your point dude ? ya wanna sling mud ? am a big time mud slinger in case ya didin't know ! ''

You're pathetic. Bring it on Bra!

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''just like Toyota corolla and camry belong to different categories, Gulma is like a Corolla and Seeker 400 is like a Camry.''

How/why does Corolla and Camry belong to different categories? And how would you define these categories?

''nigerian Gulma drone and south african Hungwe drone are both 'Corolla category', they both have almost exactly the same size, shape, and technical specifications of speed,range,altitude,endurance etc.''

How are they both 'corolla category'?
The Hungwe UAV is not 'almost exactly the same' to the Gulma, it is BETTER in all categorial respects of speed, range, altitude, and endurance.

''Gulma is new, and new hardware dont get their full technical details spilled out in one day''

You call GoPro cameras ''New hardware''? lol you're funny dude! I can get a GoPro camera on Amazon or Kalahari at a reasonably cheap price.

''of course Gulma will do the job of a world class drone/UAV as proved from its operational profile, and that gives you an idea of what equipment it carries on board to do those functions below....''

By equipment you mean GoPro cameras and a video camera that even lacks night time capability/Infrared imaging? I'm unimpressed.
We can only hope Boko Boys do not inflict terror at night for Gulma is a blind piece of crap at night.


Application Areas :

1. Surveillance (Army, Navy, Air Force, Secret Service Intelligence)

2. Policing Operations (Police Force, Road Safety Corp)

3. Disaster Management (Civil Aviation, Airspace Management, Emergency And Disaster Management)

4. Convoy Protection (Presidency, VIPs, XBN, Diplomats)

5. Maritime Patrol (Civil)

6. Pipeline and Powerline Monitoring (Oil & Gas, Nationwide Electricity Grid)

7. Border Patrol (Immigrations And Customs)

8. Forestry/Wildlife (Agriculture & Fire Service)

9. Weather Forecasting (NAMA, NIMET)

10. Telecast (NTA, FRCN)

11. Emerging Uses (Population Census & Nationwide Democratic Elections Monitoring).

''now above are the eleven different applications of Gulma drone, and that is the best any world class drone can do apart from arming with guns/missiles which can come later.''

The above are different applications that basic drones are able to do. Unarmed ''world class drones'' have far greater capabilities than your elementary drone, yours is in no way comparable.

''those eleven functions above will not be performed using some local witchcraft magical mixtures, the eleven can only be done by modern electronic equipment.''

Again, there's nothing modern about a very loud 17hp engine with GoPro cameras.

''did you ever ask seleka rebels how their rifles work ? no, because their rifle does its job of killing south african soldiers.
same with Nigerian Gulma drone, forget about how it works if our air force does not tell you details, because Gulma will do its job of spying on you''

Seleka rebels couldn't overun 200 well trained Parabats who inflicted heavy casualties on them. Nigerians would've ran away like they did in Mali. 1500 of our Paratroopers can take on your 3000 AK-47 weilding pathetic Special forces and beat them hands down!
That crap won't come near South African Airspace, it will be shot down!

rka1:

http://www.badehaerospacecentre.com.ng/

The above should answer your question.

Give credit where it is due. The Gulma is not an armed UAV, as that will be the natural progression. Trying to ridicule won't get you anywhere as every country has to start from somewhere.

By the way, the 15 NAF UAV pilots have been trained by Nigerian instructors and the Gulma was developed indigenously.

''The above should answer your question''
No, It didnot answer my question. All i need is a comparison, how hard can this be? Or why don't you just provide the full specifications of the drone instead.

''Give credit where it is due. The Gulma is not an armed UAV, as that will be the natural progression..''
The Gulma/Amebo doesn't deserve any kind of credit, rka1. It is a piece of crap! That's it!

''... Trying to ridicule won't get you any where as every country has to start from somewhere.''
Lol.. fellow compatriots, this is rka1's way of just saying the Gulma UAV is piece of crap that no one should brag about.

''15 pilots have been trained by nigerian instructors.''
Let go of the strawman arguments. I have never disputed that.

''Gulma was developed indigenously''
No it was developed indigenously. You had help from Cranfield University aerospace engineers. Without their help there wouldn't be any so called Gulma UAV.

@Henry120 & @GeneralJ
Come on! You both are grown lads, there's no need to be fooling each other. I and my fellow compatriots know very well that the Gulma UAV is Amebo. The Gulma UAV is a production model of of the Amebo prototype series. They are not really two different drones.

Henry120:

;DD

''If the above would help you sleep well at night. Carry on.''

The above doesn't make me sleep well at night. I find taking a hot shower just before bed to do wonders. You should try it, IF YOU CAN lol..

''Make e no be say "acute badbelleism" for naija con kill you.

''

I do not understand what you just typed. Oh well it must be the Generator fumes, i can only feel sorry of you.

@Agaugust, Would you do me the honour of making comparisons of your latest british made Gulma UAV to our entirely locally produced Seeker 400 UAV? I cannot find much info on it other than... '' it is powered by 17hp engine... Operates via radio control on a micro pilot FCS avionics System... Maximum altitide of 10 000 feet... Endurance of 5.5hours'
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Does it have electro-optical/infrared imaging and radar like the Seeker 400? How about an electronic surveillance payload than can detect and locate radar emitters?

I will await your comparison. @Agaugust, Would you do me the honour of making comparisons of your latest british made Gulma UAV to our entirely locally produced Seeker 400 UAV? I cannot find much info on it other than... '' it is powered by 17hp engine... Operates via radio control on a micro pilot FCS avionics System... Maximum altitide of 10 000 feet... Endurance of 5.5hours'
'
Does it have electro-optical/infrared imaging and radar like the Seeker 400? How about an electronic surveillance payload than can detect and locate radar emitters?

I will await your comparison. Lol...

Silly Naaigerians! Did you really think that your country's Military could build a Drone on their own? Well all credit goes to your British Masters who built it for you.

Nigerian commissions new UAV: DefenceWeb

''Was produced by the Nigerian Airforce Institute of Technology with the help of aerospace engineers from Cranfield University in Britain''

I mean did you guys really think you can produce a UAV from start to finish? Lol... For God's sake you can't even provide constant electricity and sanitation to your ''Universities''. Building UAVs is for sophisticated countries like Mzansi not Crapgeria.

''At the Air Expo, AFIT stated that test flights for Amebo I and II had been carried out by UK pilots in 2010 and 2011..''

Lol you don't even trust yourselves to test flight these drones. We all know why - you don't want them to come crashing down from incompetence just like your F-7 crap aircrafts. Time to buy some new multirole birds, you're an oil rich nation! Oh wait....

Most of the money made from Oil goes into private swiss and london bank accounts while the likes of Augustus are left of to make ends meet by selling dog meat on the markets of Lagos. Smh! The giant of Crap!

Top 3 Militaries in Africa

1. Egypt - A capable and big military(to keep up with its foe, Israel) with sophisticated weaponry ranging from mostly Eastern and Western Europe. It has a Great Air Force, Good Army and Fair Navy.

2. South Africa - A small but highly trained and capable Military backed up by a very good indigenous military Industrial Complex. Over 70% of the equipment is home-made and of an international standard. It has a Great Army, Good Air Force and Great Navy - The only Navy in Africa with a Blue Naval Status.

3. Ethiopia - Has a high number of Army personnel( In proportion to it's poor economy) but nonetheless the Army is very experienced. It has no Navy because it is now a landlocked country but has a good air force.