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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 11:56am On May 03, 2008
mystikal:

when some arsenal fans see stories like these they go "we're a rich club, we should be buying expensive and stuff". Truth is Arsenal can't. because u live with income generated by club alone, and have the stadium debt to repay as well, these other clubs have benefactors in these foreign owners.

But however Manu and Liverpool although being rated as top clubs in the world are in severe debt and are actually running at a loss. Meaning, their expenses exceeds their income.Loans were made to cover the losses, thus increasing their debt service and therefore their annual losses. Unless these clubs come back to earth shares will have to be sold in order to cover the shortfall. Their worth as reported by Forbes only takes into context their share value and not their operating loss or profit.
Of all the top clubs Arsenal are the only ones which shows an operating profit and maybe in two to three years or so, they would have sold off highbury and the other plots( which would generate over 300 million) and payed down a significant amount….getting far lower interests and freeing them from the heavy burden.
Maybe then you'll have the millions to play with every summer on transfer fees like the other big boys



um, do you actually know that the emirates stadium was funded by the emirates empire/airlines/whateva?!!! so THAT money was borrowed as well and will have to be paid back.So arsenal are in debt.Where do you think TV rights and prize money goes too?!its not enough obviously but it goes into covering costs for the clubs.Manchester united are in debt due to the glazers buying the club but is being paid of monthly for the next 40 years.Practically all EPL clubs arein debt.If you've ever taken a loan from the bank you would have know n that you can specify how you want to pay back that loan .So united ARE the richest club in the world besting even madrid,dnt also forget The glazers own an NFL franchise as well and the NFL generates way more than football.So paying back the loan gotten to fund his purchase of united isn't a problem.the fact that united are making profit is what matters to him,so please dnt come here and post shit about arsenal cus they are not the richest club in europe not even england,every sensible fan/person knows that.If they were ,we would be pounded bout it hourly cuz thats what gaynners do,brag about shit!!!!!!!!!!!
Gaming / Re: Fifa2008(too Hard) by pein(m): 7:57am On May 03, 2008
no we are talking about fifa 08.EA has alway been good with presentation and thats where konamii fails miserably but in terms of gameplay everyone will tell you PES is the better game.FIFA sellsmore cuz its much more popular in the US but in europe and asia PES Rules.and about the difficulty like i sad you just have to get used to it byy stepping up your game,thats all there is to it.
TV/Movies / Re: Most Powerful Anime Or Manga Character Ever? by pein(m): 7:51am On May 03, 2008
@echowords
hasnt orochimaru thrashed jiriaya everytime even when they were younger but what did tsunade or itachi do to him?!!!he lost part of his arm to itachi and tsunade bleeped him up real good. that has always been the premise of shounen manga,it always a kind of tussle between who's stronger one guy beats the crap out of another yet a third fcuks up the first badly and you are like WTF?!even thier comment atimes make you believe that until chapters later you get your mind blown away.
make no mistake jiriaya is strong but he had to die for the story to progress and naruto to progress as well.Naruto no matter what anyone says is and will always be stronger than sasuke but sasuke is smarter;naruto has always been a dunce but if he ever goes all out against sasuke what do you think will happen.Pain is stronger than jiriaya because of his rinne'gan and having info on a guy just makes the person bring forth the bestt of his/her jutsu/skills,thats a staple of shounen.If you've ever seen DBZ goku and piccolo had to team up to beat raditz,goku dying in the process but later on got ridiculous amounts of power,imagine if he had faced raditz that way!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 4:13pm On May 02, 2008
@Akolawole
even if we lose to chelsea which isnt happenin btw cus it would take a miracle to- we were able 2 gt 2 d finals of europe's most prestigious club tourney while bayern didnt,that alone is terrible,thn comparing bayern to united is absolutely ridiculous!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 4:04pm On May 02, 2008
definitely wouldnt mind seeing bosingwa in a red shirt,he's really lively!! bt these are jst rumours,hp its true tho. , ashton?! the press knows we need another striker bt must it be from everyteam we are goin up against?nxt thing ull hear is fergie wnts heskey,better still shevchenko tongue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 11:32am On May 02, 2008
@mancs
Ronaldo has just been voted the best player by the football writers association for the second year running.how anyone would say he isn't going to get top honours for the ballon d'or and FIFA player of the year beats me
Gaming / Re: Fifa2008(too Hard) by pein(m): 11:22am On May 02, 2008
seems easy to me it takes time to get used to it but once you do its nothing,best tip i can give is dnt panic under ant situation:defending,crossing even when 1on1 like most ppl do when playing PES.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 11:20am On May 02, 2008
doshbass:

does anyone know how much we (ManU) will be getting for winning this Champions league

it's about 25 million for winning the trophy but the team is paid for each match won or drawn none for lost matches right from the group stages.though the real money comes in from endorsemnets and TV rights.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 8:03pm On May 01, 2008
@Jackal
jst av dis gut feelin dat mutu will score cry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 7:45pm On May 01, 2008
rootin 4 rangers as well bt fiorentina can be tricky, with mutu,pazzini,montolivo and dat old warhorse vieri.also frey on his day can b a real pain in d arse
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 7:33pm On May 01, 2008
@Jackal
shame he'll miss d final,really like d effort he puts into matches.he could b a great addition 2 united.rumors flyin around tho is dat fergies tryin 2 gt some sanchez dude.bayern are a shit club,always will be.all thats left is d rangers-fiorentina match,hp it'll b a cracker!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 7:23pm On May 01, 2008
@Nyanbinghi
why u handin out forms to clowns,d fool will infect us mancs wit stupidity!! withdraw ur offer otherwise ban! grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 7:19pm On May 01, 2008
@Presido1
dnt worry,he's probably lookin 4 his xcuse on wiki
@jackal
Pogrebnyaks actually d one im more impressd with,he's been touted in some circles as d next best thing from eastern europe along with jovetic
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 7:07pm On May 01, 2008
@jackal
they actually look like they'll get 5,dayokanu must be sleepin somewhere,bayern cnt evn gt 2 d final of d uefa cup,derby county will av a field day wit 'em grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 7:02pm On May 01, 2008
4-0!! Now,and kahn's supposed 2 b a legend? first goal was a freekick,second was a crisp finish after a mazy run and d 4th , oh dear!! bayern av lst thier will
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 6:56pm On May 01, 2008
nah!!! still 3-0 grin Bayern tho lack any form of inspiration
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 6:51pm On May 01, 2008
oh dear!!! zenith st.petersburg 4 - 0 bayern tongue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 6:46pm On May 01, 2008
anyone watching the uefa cup semis?bayern currently losin 0-3 to zenith st.petersburg!!
and that is the team some clown claims to be better than united?!where's the fishbrain dayokanu tongue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 10:22pm On Apr 30, 2008
both of 'em are back rooney is expected to play against west ham,not too sure bout vida but he's rearing to go as well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 11:51am On Apr 30, 2008
who says they are on the same level?!!they've both won the UCL,real way more than dortmund but they are european giants whichever way u look at it.marseille like it or not despite recent years floundering are still france's biggest club in terms of achievement.soo stop being a Arrow and go get ready for thursday
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 11:41am On Apr 30, 2008
you are the clown saying this team is elite and that team is shit.fact is they are all great teams,winning the UCL isnt your everyday job,it takes tremendous effort,determination and atimes luck.i see wiki has served u well,G-14 disbanding isnt the issue,the issue is that they existed and will always be regared as the top 14 clubs in europe.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 11:27am On Apr 30, 2008
dude is a bleeping retarded clown
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 11:07am On Apr 30, 2008
fool !!its only in your deranged world where you claim to differentiate elite clubs and big clubs,if they are so elite why havn't they or any other club for that matter defended the UCL trophy in its new format.it's idiots like you that come up with shit like "elite" and what not to tell yourself you know what you are saying,which you continually prove with every single post of yours that you do not.
why does UEFA have the G14?!! u obvioulsy do not know,so run along to wiki and find out
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 10:52am On Apr 30, 2008
so what makes me dumb?!! the fact that everytime you post bull,me or my fellow mancs are there to shut your trap and show how mentally challenged you are?!! and this clown claims he has actually graduated.God, your lecturers must have been tired of your mental capacity after 10 years they just had to let you go
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 10:48am On Apr 30, 2008
so why is your "elite" club in the UEFA cup rubbing shoulders with rangers/fiorentina and having a hard time beating zenith st.petersburg?!!!
a club fighting for UEFA cup glory according to you should be regarded as an elite club?!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 10:40am On Apr 30, 2008
@superstar1
is there a bayern thread?!!! tongue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 10:18am On Apr 30, 2008
tkb417:

is there any link between dayokanu and dementia?


Actually its more like stupidity,clowns arse is up in his skull and his brain is AWOL!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 10:07am On Apr 30, 2008
cheesy good lord u are a real plonker!!!!!!!
so you and who differentiates that way? blatter? platini?toni?kahn?
PLEASE !!!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 9:58am On Apr 30, 2008
why is this plonker contradicting himself?!!
u claim the elites to be those who have won the UCL four or more times yet barca have two(so barca are a small team by your logic),and yet you say united have broken the jinx of not beating a big team in europe?!!
why didnt you say 5 or 6 or 9?!!because bayern have 4? Arrow!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by pein(m): 9:37am On Apr 30, 2008
so barca who have two UCL titles like united are a small team?!

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