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taiyesoul:
Enemies of Progress.Enemies of Yoruba race.Leave this dude alone bikonu!.Haters everywhere!!!!

Saying someone should be prosecuted -- not even jailed-- does not make whoever said that enemy of Yoruba race? Who cares the race? "Righteousness exalts a nation; sin is a reproach to any people".

In fact whoever said that is the real friend of progress and of any race.

By the way, I'm Yoruba.

taiyesoul:
Enemies of Progress.Enemies of Yoruba race.Leave this dude alone bikonu!.Haters everywhere!!!!

Saying someone should be prosecuted -- not even jailed-- does not make whoever said that enemy of Yoruba race? Who cares the race? "Righteousness exalts a nation; sin is a reproach to any people".

In fact whoever said that is the real friend of progress and of any race.

Teempakguy:
it is a logical conclusion. if you can accept that one occurrence has nothing to do with God, then you can also accept that two more occurrences have nothing to do with God. if you are consistent and not intellectually dishonest, you will suddenly find thi know no one was there because i know the earth wasn't there, and humanity cannot survive without the earth. pretty simple.at there is nothing that has to do with God. you are free to present logic that dictates otherwise.

let me kill two birds with a stone,
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reasonable scientific discussion is one in which the subject being discussed is falsifiable. it's as simple as that.

there is no God. christians do have no premise to stand on when they say there is God. or that he created the universe. because those statements require a miracle and they have no logic whatsoever. also, the proof that no human was there is simple, we don't know how the universe formed. if someone were there, they would have told us, so we would know. and whatever they told us would agree with all the observations we have made. every single verse of the creations story directly contradicts everything science has discovered within the last milennia. you are free to bring up your favorite verse as i show you why it's a fantasy and nothing else.
not only that, it is a copied story. several civilizations have this type of story. only with different Gods. that is another contradiction.
perhaps the most devastating contradiction is what arises when the seeming perfection of the creator is juxtaposed with his creation.

i rest my case.

I keep seeing assertions that has not been verified or cannot be verified in your statements. And you are the ones who say things must be verifiable to be reasonable for discussion.

Is this statement falsifiable without someone who was in the beginning of all things: "There is no God." NO ONE WITH A SCIENTIFIC MIND EVER MAKES SUCH STATEMENTS. A bit acceptable if you just said, " I and many others have not seen adequate evidence to conclude that there is God."

Secondly, it is a known fact that people can see the same thing and read different meanings to it. Once you believe there is no God, even if you see God you may say something like "My mind was just tricking me."

Trying to limit truth to what is verifiable is saying you already have all the details and gadgets ever possible to have for verifying claims.

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Teempakguy:
2. yes.
3. yes, it has been verified. no human being knows the origin of the universe. no one was there. all we have are pretty good guesses which tend to fact. and they do not include genesis chapter one. that is pure bullshyte and will have no place in any reasonable scientific discussion.

Again permit me to ask you what you meant by "reasonable scientific discussion".

Also, you said "no one was there" how did you know that? Who came back from the past to tell us, "I travelled to the beginning and no one was there when nature began."

Christians believe that God created nature. They have grounds to say they know how it all began because there is God. Atheists on the other hand have no premise to stand on when they say, "No one knows" or "Know one was there," because those statements require a miracle to make and be right when your premise is: you have to be able to prove things to believe it.

Teempakguy:
2. yes.
3. yes, it has been verified. no human being knows the origin of the universe. no one was there. all we have are pretty good guesses which tend to fact. and they do not include genesis chapter one. that is pure bullshyte and will have no place in any reasonable scientific discussion.

Again permit me to ask you what you meant by "reasonable scientific discussion".

Also, you said "no one was there" how did you know that? Who came back from the past to tell us, "I travelled to the beginning and no one was there when nature began."

Christians believe that God created nature. They have grounds to say they know how it all began because there is God. Atheists on the other hand have no premise to stand on when they say, "No one knows" or "Know one was there," because those statements require a miracle to make and be right when your premise is: you have to prove things to believe it.

Teempakguy:

1. The laws of nature are descriptions of the constraints and behaviors that guide our world. it's as simple as that, really.

2. Nobody says all the laws of nature have been discovered. that would be a very ridiculous statement.

3. No one knows.

2. Good. So who says everyone is even on the same page in terms of knowledge of principles or laws guiding how things work in our world currently available to humans.

Note that many so called "scientific discoveries" have gone into the archive as untrue.

We learn from others when we listen and observe without prejudice.

3. That statement has not been verified.

Conversation with people who allow emotions to cloud reason cannot yield any benefit.

My post is not intended to convert an atheist to Christianity. Reason CANNOT establish that. I'm just stating a very strong issue that affects humans generally, theists and atheists, students and professors, politicians and non-politician, Governments and rebels. Being a good listener and observer helps to resolve conflicts, aids productivity and makes us able to relate with one another better even if we don't believe the same thing.

Just see how people are prone to attack persons rather than address issues by reading replies above.

Teempakguy:
you KNOW this is a ridiculous statement, right?

also, atheists immediately claim "hoax" whenever they see "miracles" because they violate the laws of nature. if you watched a video where person was floating in midair, you should already know he is faking it. gravity doesn't do partiality. neither does electromagnetism. so we shout hoax because they are bullshyte thought up by clever people to deceive less clever and more ignorant people into thinking they have some supernatural power.

and EVERY TIME, atheists have been proved right. no "miracle" has survived the test of scientism. they are all hoaxes.

Interesting. So what are the laws of nature? 2. who said ALL "laws of nature" have been discovered or acknowledged to be so 3. How did "nature" begin?

Atheists are not necessarily scientific. No true scientists make conclusions without examination of fact. And no fact makes sense without a correct premise for interpretation.

By the way, I am a scientist; science is not contrary to faith. Christians just happens to know what science has not yet discovered.

You can now use the privilege of that information to read again. Just maybe you will get my point this time.

owonoko:
Naa Waa Oo

Don't give up.

jayriginal:
So if both listen, the atheists will change their minds and the Christians will be able to help the atheists (as opposed to changing their minds)?

Guy, you haven't been listening!

You comment seems like a proof of what I'm trying to say. It is taking things from the superficial.

For example, the "help" is related to those "atheists" who thought God would have prevented a rough situation in their lives if He is real-- in other words are hurting and hold God responsible for everything that happens.

Please read properly before commenting

meshacha1:
Abbey: Do you have a boyfriend?
GIRL: Nope, i don't have one.
Abbey: Gen 2:18 "The lord God said, it is not good for a
man to be alone, i will make a helper suitable for him."
GIRL: But i don't love you.
Abbey: 1 John 4:8 whoever does not love,does not
know God, because God is love.
GIRL: And how do i know you mean those words?
Abbey: Mathew 12:34 for out of the abundance of the
heart, the mouth speaks.
GIRL: But how can i be sure that you're loyal and
honest?
Abbey: Mark 13:31 "Heaven & earth will pass away but
my words will never pass away.
GIRL: But why me? There are a lot of girls out there.
Abbey: Proverbs 31:29 "Many women do noble things,
but you surpass them all."
GIRL: But what is in me that you like?
Abbey: Song of solomon 4:7 "You are altogether
beautiful, my darling there is no flaw in you."
GIRL: But i'm not all that beautiful you're exaggerating.
Abbey: Proverbs 31:30 "chram is deceptive,and beauty
is fleeting; but a woman who fears the Lord is to be
praised."
GIRL: What happens if i say yes.
Abbey: Genesis 2:24 "Therefore man shall leave his
father and his mother & they shall become one flesh."
GIRL: How come you know the scriptures this much.
Abbey: Joshua 1;8 This book of law shall not depart
from your mouth but you shall meditate on it day &
night so that you maybe careful to do all that is written
in it. For then you make your way prosperous and you
will have good success."
GIRL: Woow, I can see you really love God.
Abbey: Psalm 34:8 "Oh, taste and see that lord is good!
Blessed is the man who takes refuge in him."
GIRL: Hmmm. Ok please give time to think about it.
Abbey: Philipian 4:8 "Finally brethren,whatever is true,
whatever honourable,whatever is just, whatever is
commendable,if there is any excellence, if there is
anything worthy of praise think about this thing.
GIRL: Oww I love you already!
Abbey: Revelation 22:

Hit like if it make you smile.

Suppose put am for Romance section

The problems of many atheists happens to be the problem of many Christians. They are bad listeners and observers.

If atheists start getting more open to information and start trying, for example, to VERIFY claims of miracles by Christians instead of being hasty to conclude "It's all gimmicks," or "It's impossible," many of them will change their minds.

Also, if Christians start listening more to WHY atheists THINK there is no God before concluding that they are all unreasonable and irresponsible people who are running away from being accountable to God, Christians will be able to help those of them that are hurting and they will grow better in their knowledge of God because they will be challenged to search for answers from God and the scriptures- things they had previously not thought about. That will draw both groups closer to God.

The scientific world is too slow in solving global problems today because for many scientists, God is out of their equation of discovery.

http://house-era.com/index.php?topic=29.msg29#msg29

orisa37:
Divoice is legal separation of two humans that are in covenant to share common and specific wisdom, knowledge and understanding in their actions, interactions and movements(their feelings, thinkings and reasoning) together. Hate is shun, dislike, detest and don't love. Now what if one of the partners in the covenant is insane, what is the cost of togetherness? How do you find God who hates divoice to mend the fence? Or is it the apocalypse? Father forgive us and turn the heavy cost of togetherness into profit for our growth. IJN AMEN.

The cost will indeed be high. But love always triumph.
Things get really weighty when we leave God behind to handle things all by ourselves. There is help in God.

osamaBUSH:
A plane crashed in Turkey. Over 200 people died.

? It's a tragedy unrelated to the discussion. Million babies are born too. Both unrelated.

If you mean God is responsible, makes me wonder more.

Nobody talks about the millions that arrive their destinations safely every single day.

Well, there are replies here that requires no response. Wisdom is justified by her children.

osamaBUSH:
A plane crashed in Turkey. Over 200 people died.

?

There must be a way round it. If God hates it, He can help resolve the issues involved if allowed.

Indeed, it is not just divorce God hates. This is what that passage says,

"I hate divorce," says Jehovah God of Israel,
"and I hate a man's covering himself with violence as well as
with a garment," says the LORD Almighty.
So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith. MALACHI 3:16

Most people will address divorce from physical and psychological perspective but God says it is an issue of breaking covenant and it is spiritual. Guard your spirit, the scripture says. Protect your spirit from straying into the trend of the time- this perilous times that the Bible says will be marked by people breaking covenant (2Timothy 3:16)

Address it spiritually. Address the issues leading to wanting divorce first by submitting to God and His word. Then resist the devil over your marriage.

Speak to the storm coming against your marriage. Speak in the name of Jesus: declare what you want to see happen and not what is happening.

Choose to walk in unconditional love and be patient.

Walk in faith in God and humility and don't be taken over by fear, insecurity and inferiority complex.

God can help you. Turn to Jesus today. Surrender to His Lordship and let Him take over your marriage and fill it with His peace.

God hates divorce no matter who loves it. And God is the most important.

I'm thinking...
Ask for investment. Others?

THE New Testament DID NOT START IN MATTHEW 1: 1

This is very important
Jesus Christ did not just come a Christ the saviour of the world but also as the prophet to the Jews. As a prophet he said he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. He taught them (the Jews) as a prophet under the old testament.

The New Testament started with the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. So be keep this in mind when you read the New Testament "gospel"(Matthew, Mark, Luke, John). Who was Jesus talking to? His disciples or the Pharisees (custodians of the law of Moses, under the old testament) or other Jews.

That is why after healing a leper, he told him to go and show himself to the priest AND OFFER THE SACRIFICE Moses instructed. That was old testament. The same reason he traveled to Jerusalem to observe different Jewish festivals and kept the Sabbath- which is a shadow. Jesus himself is the substance (according to Colossians 2:16-17:

16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ)


There are statements like the issue of the sacrifice above and others that Jesus fulfilled on our behalf as regards the law. We who are in Christ now are not bound to the law of Moses. We should separate living a Christ-like life from obeying Mosaic law- all the feasts, Sabbath, eat/not eat, unclean this and that, etc- they are shadows. Even the law of the tithe CANNOT be obeyed if you are not Jewish. You need to take it to the temple at Jerusalem not the synagogues (church buildings today). And the tithe anywhere in the Bible is never money-- always animals and crops. When they convert it to money for ease of travel to Jerusalem, they are to revert back to edibles when they reach there. These are all laws under Moses with
principles we can learn from rather than be bound to the law and make the death of Jesus look unnecessary.

Quick, implement your plans and warn LASMA to do their jobs. These commercial bus drivers are becoming TOO unruly.

Okaaay. What next?

Baba should rest ooo.

psucc:
The advent of social media had either added to or subtracted from the meaning of plagiarism.

Some of these laws need to be repealed to reflect contemporary developments in the society.

Well, whatever change comes must protect the purpose of people who do the real work.

However, I agree with you that we need laws to reflect the advent and influence of social media.

** OP I just used it here:

https://www.nairaland.com/2703566/nairalanders-mods-know-still-plagiarism

Am I correct? This English

On paper our moderators say that plagiarism is not allowed. But I keep seeing posts of plagiarized materials making FP- an act that says Nairaland Admin is in support despite the disclaimers.

According to the Moderator in Literature section, posting another person's write up (paraphrased. The Mod even said something like "closely related thoughts" without permission is plagiarism. Even if the source is recognized it is still plagiarism. Just like stealing and eating someone's food and then telling everyone that joins in eating that you didn't cook it. Does that make up for not allowing the owner to decide whether or not to give you the food?

https://www.nairaland.com/1029013/literature-writing-guidelines-rules-regulations

I agree. Why? Imagine you started an online news magazine and did serious ground work to uncover important but secret events in Nigeria hoping that your stress will pay in the end because you are providing something not easily available. You were hoping to make money from adverts on the website by pooling viewers.

However, your first viewers are Nairaland's FP deprived people (very many) who have been converted to "Ago make front page by all means". You know what happens next. They will quote your work verbatim on Nairaland, put the source and maybe just 2% of those who see the source will bother to check it. Your hope of making money by investing in originality can be dashed.

Except we have secured an agreement with the source or it is the same source, Mods should please protect Nairaland lest someone gets frustrated and fight back.

It's been a while a beautiful piece like this made front page. Kudos to whoever made it so.

**Okay OP I just used it here: https://www.nairaland.com/2703566/nairalanders-mods-know-still-plagiarism

I'm I correct? This English

May you be the best Nigerian president with the best result so far, Mr. President.

I don't have to like you. You are already the President, so I better pray for you to succeed cause WE ARE NOT PLAYING when we say we want change. We really NEED change. Better still, WE REALLY NEED TO CHANGE.

abiolasogey:
D story 2 much,,cnt read it,,it may make fp lyk dat,,make i jst comment

That's why important points were emboldened or coloured.

By the way you CAN read it, just feeling too lazy to I guess .

I think developing discipline to read better stuffs than gossips and photos posts of inconsequential events is an area we need to work on sef.

Author: M.A. Adedoyin
Original Title: Are You Ready?
Date Published: 2, February 2015
Source: http://emergeng..com.ng/2015/02/pg-3-are-you-ready.html?m=1


Many times when people get what they fight so hard to get, they realize it's not what they want after all. Nothing good comes or stays priceless: if you get it free, someone else paid for it and, by the way, it will still be useless if you don't pay the price to obtain its full benefit.

That is why the old Nigeria has problems with maintenance; she wants everything free and she doesn't want to pay the price of maximizing the opportunities in and potentials of free gifts.

Nigeria's problem is not corruption (as terrible and destructive as it has been) and, definitely, it is not poverty because we are rich as a nation. Nigeria's problem is the lack of a national vision. "What about Vision 2020?" A national vision is not the same as a president's vision for a nation. The latter is driven by the president and appointed or selected "drivers"(leaders, ministers etc) whereas the former, that is a national vision is driven by the people. A national vision is that which has become an obsession of citizens and residents of a nation. Our national vision determines our choice of system of governance and, at any point in time, who 'steers the wheel'.

The question is: Are you willing to forget the past of Nigeria- which includes your own past or current experience in Nigeria and your past as a Nigerian - and embrace a vision for the future?

It makes us feel knowledgeable when we analyze history and quote the heroes of the ages past but what can all the analyses do for us when we don't know where we are heading as a nation. We must be willing to talk about the future we prefer and make deliberate moves, as individuals, away from the past- no matter how beautiful or how terrible it had been.

How can you pray to win elections with a primary motive and vision to "share the national cake"? Why do we complain about members of the National Assembly when in the public offices we are among those diverting potential public money into personal account? Visit the Nigerian Immigration Service Passport Centres, for example, and see how people get original passports out quickly by making extra payments not going into the government's account. Those who go the normal route are treated as secondary applicants; their files would not be treated on time because some staff of the government have found another source of income by creating a service parallel to what they were employed to do. Why do we make simple procedures complex or leave it complex after discovering a better way of doing things just because we benefit from the complexity at the expense of others and at the expense of our nation?

Are you ready? Are you ready to give up initial personal gains to permit the emergence of a new nation where everybody gains?

When we say we want things to get better in Nigeria, do we mean we are willing to play our roles and participate in the transformation of our nation? Or are we just wishing?

You said you want the present political party voted out but you are begging your child not to officiate, as a National Youth Service Corps member, in the electoral process. Are you really ready? Other people's children should officiate: if someone would be killed it should be the relative of someone else. Other people can suffer loss but not you! Instead of rising up and putting our foot on the ground that things must be done right and getting ready to provide information and any support to security agents when we can; instead of choosing to provide support or protection for people who may suffer in case things go wrong, what we are tempted to do is hide our heads in the sand like the Ostrich while everyone else sees how vulnerable we are.

Of course, a forward-thinking nation must keep evolving in processes and procedures to ensure best outcomes at every occasion. Before we get to where we are going we must keep moving. The unpalatable steps we take when things are not yet like we want it, that is what is called "Sacrifice."

If we are ready to move on; if we are not joking about not liking how Nigeria is today, we need to change certain mindsets and philosophies that seems to be found everywhere in our nation. As I have said, you and I need to be ready for the change we say we want. Otherwise, when we see it we will call it evil.

If we don't confront the way we think and do things differently we are not ready for change, we are only wishing things change. Anybody who is serious about experiencing something new must get to work doing something new. Do you expect a different result to come out of doing things the same way? That won't be wisdom.

We must first change to experience change and to maintain it.

cc: Lalasticlacla

I warned Nigerians to mentally prepare for change during the election campaigns because change is actually spelt SACRIFICE.

We want change but we want no change from our comfort zone and convenient or manageable life . Self Deception and Noise Making.

People who love their own good more than the good of the nation will refuse to understand if the process of change cost them something. They will complain and try to cause more damage instead of praying that their sacrifice for our nation will not be in vain.