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Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by thaqib(m): 10:09am On Mar 19, 2021 |
JustforMen: Two points just to note 1 Hijabs are part of dressing of Muslim women in all places. Not a religious garment for mosques. Its compulsory for them. Since that is protected by the fundamentals human right, so be it. U can then say, the hijab must be red or white or whatever to conform with the school uniform, that's fine. U may also say it must have a badge to distinguish but from other schools hijab,that's also cool. This is a middle course 2 I understand from my research that the school in question is not a private school per se. Yes , it was founded by Christian missionaries but it has been taken over by government prior to this regime. The teachers are being paid by government. The founders still foot some expenses, as support but technically those are supports. If the missionaries want to take the school back( both Muslims and Christians now), that can be achieved via a law that would pass through the state assembly. It happened in Lagos, and the schools were returned! There are new private schools in kwara owned and completely funded by Muslims and Christians entrepreneurs. The Muslims would not send their children to such Christian schools unless they must abide by such school's principles( including no use of ijab), and vice versa too . The government cannot interfere with what happens there, they can only regulate to achieve some minimum standards.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by MondayOsunbor(m): 10:10am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Sirjamo: try wearing cross to a Muslim school ? |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Blackmiserable(m): 10:11am On Mar 19, 2021 |
thaqib: I have been on the fence all the while until this evidence came to light. The agreement shows that the government is the one formenting trouble. When you make agreements you have to sit down and see where it benefits you. If you feel you are at disadvantage, you have two options: 1) Pull out of the agreement legally. 2) Demand a review of the agreement. For as we know, agreement is agreement and binding on all parties. Now, the agreement shows that the schools would not be changed and the practices would be undisturbed. Clearly, the church board then felt it was a fair deal else they would not dip their hands in it. Now another government is crying blue murder and wants to use tyranny to break agreements. I am not arguing for or against hijab. The agreement doesn't give the government the rights to enforce their wills on these schools. Ask yourself this, if it weren't a grant aided school, would the government have powers to outrightly make such demands? No, obviously. The government is hanging onto what it has no power to. |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by gaskiyamagana: 10:12am On Mar 19, 2021 |
stanisbaratheon:Sharap Shatap No Ijab in those schools for muslims girls, no peace in those schools. You and the likes will continue to make noise and bark till second Coming of your Lord. 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by MightyHand(m): 10:12am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Religion of PEACE they say, na wa ooo |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Daguccizgreat(m): 10:13am On Mar 19, 2021 |
it Tranquility4u:Ironically you're the foolish one here. Any body who's practicing Islam is a lost soul 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Jaapu: 10:13am On Mar 19, 2021 |
OKOATA: With all that you have said. This your Muslim friends supposed don kill you throway o. |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by thaqib(m): 10:14am On Mar 19, 2021 |
nameo: Thanks. I understand the school s have now turned public. I appreciate but last point, mature sir! 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by gaskiyamagana: 10:15am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Blackmiserable:Is this document superior to Nigeria Constitution which is unambiguos on right to education without religion discimination? |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by crixlight2(m): 10:22am On Mar 19, 2021 |
femi4:How old are you and are you a Muslim or Christian |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by nurain150(m): 10:22am On Mar 19, 2021 |
OKOATA:Someone that can't even read Fatiah be claiming ex Muslim Stop being dumb.Im a cleric teacher at modrasat.We know your type your weren't formerly a Muslim. 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by FatherCHRlSTMAS: 10:25am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Tranquility4u:Weyre your moniker is tranquility but your posts are on full attacking mode... Are you not mad?? Ask yourself 2 Likes |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Goalty01: 10:27am On Mar 19, 2021 |
OKOATA: Knowing how to read the arabic alphabets doesn't make you a Muslim, he have Christian Arabs who can recite the Qur'an fluently. Oga you were never a Muslim. Arabic is Just a language. |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Emerie22(m): 10:29am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Jaapu: His Muslims friends are not barbaric like tranquility4u Islam is a religion of Destruction 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by seunayantokun(m): 10:30am On Mar 19, 2021 |
What Christians in Kwara did many years ago is wisdom today. Now with the agreement published, it seems they have a good case yet Kwara Governor wants to force his way through; Muslims in Kwara are stoning them; MURIC is celebrating the stoning saying Christians have not yet learnt from history (of Islamic violence and terrorism?); and some Muslims on nairaland are applauding what their fellows did in Kwara State. This is Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by JustASeer: 10:39am On Mar 19, 2021 |
I was once a Muslim and i can testify to what he said Continue fooling yourself till your eyes got open. You were never a Muslim. A sensible person must understand that you just fabricated the rubbish post above.[/quote] 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Thelife: 10:40am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Sirjamo: https://punchng.com/we-wont-allow-hijab-in-kwara-mission-schools-can-insists/ " Owoeye, who said Christians are bona fide citizens of the state, added, “We have equal rights under the provisional constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.” He argued that the government was aware that Christian Religious Knowledge teachers were not posted to Muslim grant-aided schools and that the gathering of Fellowship of Christian Students was not allowed in Muslim grant-aided schools. “Similarly, we want the government to be informed that her decision and plan to provide hijab and enforce its use in our Christian mission grant-aided schools will not be tolerated as it is an infringement on our freedom of religion as enshrined in the constitution of Nigeria,” he said." The most toxic people feel the most unjustly treated even while they treat others the most unjustly. It's the same reason snakes bite.
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Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by JustforMen: 10:42am On Mar 19, 2021 |
I get your point about the hijab being a part of dressing for Muslim women and I clearly understand its provisions. The point I raised earlier was the suspicion of dominance which quite recent, I mean before the coming of democracy in 2019, you don't hear the issue of hijab being a problem in Nigerian schools both government and private - Infact everyone dressed according to the school uniform requirement in schools and however they liked outside. In this particular case, we are talking of a school that belongs to another faith and that has admitted muslims for years only for a sudden demand of change not only to be required but forced with government backing. You agree with me that, that could be problematic, if a Christian were to make such a demand of a Muslim founded school. 2. I mentioned the motive of government taking over missionary schools and even told you how it was celebrated as a control tool against the spread of a certain religion. Your second point echos the same sentiment, why should a government that cannot run its own schools now take over missionary schools which were founded with a specific goal of providing education to its adherents? Now you are saying the schools have been taken over by government, why would you think government has a right to take over private property and the owners should be forced against their wish to relinquish control? Since the government pays the staff, they can easily transfer their employees to their own schools and let the missionary schools operate as the private entities they want to be. why is the government not taking over other private schools but those belonging to missionaries? if the government were such a good school administrator, why are they not doing it for their own schools without wasting tax-payer money on paying staff of a private concern. This smells fishy and will definitely breed distrust. The government did not buy those schools, they just want to take them over, why? so on the specific issue of hijab, I think a permanent solution is for the government to let private institutions run as private and handover such schools to their original owners. This is both cheaper for the government and will remove all unnecessary friction. How can government decide to take over a private concern just because it decided on its own volition to support such schools? make it make sense to me. So we must accept that the main culprit is the government and its actions are causing needless distrust among the populace. I am sure if the case is reversed, government will not even attempt to take over Islamic based schools and attempt to impose a Christian or even secular practice. So lets be fair and only fight when there is a real need to fight. thaqib: 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by mnwogu(m): 10:45am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Wetin Muslims dey look for in a Christian school? Why not go to their Muslim schools scattered around the state? Just to dey find trouble here and there. Religion of piece indeed ......... |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Dpharisee: 10:45am On Mar 19, 2021 |
OKOATA:Many people are still Muslims out of fear of being murdered for apostasy by other Muslims including their own relations and that is what is sustaining Islam and not love. In areas where Muslims are majority people quit when they want to abandon the country forever and flee to other countries. 5 Likes |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Thelife: 10:50am On Mar 19, 2021 |
thaqib: So what the CAN post on this thead is not legal enough right? Have you heard of aid granting before? Then why can't your moslom sister abide with tje school uniform? It can't happen because you people don't accept us to exercise our religious right in your own schools too https://punchng.com/we-wont-allow-hijab-in-kwara-mission-schools-can-insists/ " Owoeye, who said Christians are bona fide citizens of the state, added, “We have equal rights under the provisional constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.” He argued that the government was aware that Christian Religious Knowledge teachers were not posted to Muslim grant-aided schools and that the gathering of Fellowship of Christian Students was not allowed in Muslim grant-aided schools. “Similarly, we want the government to be informed that her decision and plan to provide hijab and enforce its use in our Christian mission grant-aided schools will not be tolerated as it is an infringement on our freedom of religion as enshrined in the constitution of Nigeria,” he said." 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by olamoses75(m): 10:51am On Mar 19, 2021 |
If there's only one thing I should be thankful for, it will be the fact that God makes me a Christian. My dad was an unbeliever, his dad was an herbalist and mom, a praticing Muslim when they got married. There was a confusion after their marriage pertaining which religion they should practice cus my dad, like normally African men, doesn't like the idea of praticing his wife's religion, so they contemplated on being a non-religion family. But alas, something happened (story for another day) which finally leads to their conversion. My dad is now a pastor and my mom, evangelist. I just can't imagine being a Muslim; that religion teaches only violence! Attack me all you want. Shalom! 2 Likes |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by OasisT: 10:53am On Mar 19, 2021 |
[quote author=Sirjamo post=99998530]1. This was just a speach by the military governor, not the law enacted to change the status of the schools. 2. The speech was delivered in 1972 not 74. I assume ( Not sure) the last time schools status were changed was 1974. 3. If these conditions were still relevant and backed by the law, where did the high court and appeal court get the legal backing to rule in favor of hijab? 4. Why are Christians afraid of hijab in a predominantly Yoruba state like Kwara? There's no basis for any Christian to condemn hijab in Kwara state due to the following reasons: a. Kwara and all Yoruba States has no record of hijab wearing suicide bomber. b. Hijab is not new to Christianity. Catholic sisters wear something very similar. c. Hijab depicts morality, is Christianity no longer a moral religion? d. Hijab is optional even to the Muslims, no one is forcing the Christians to wear it. I AM DONE TALKING There are many things that you are not getting correctly and they are as follows: 1. In most of the SW states, there is no extended family where you don't have Christians , Muslims and traditionalists 2. The SW is more of secular states than many regions in Nigeria. 3. There is no hate between the Christians and Muslims but the government policy is pitching them against each other 4. Most of these schools are located in church premises and as such are saying that people should allow hyjab in the church ? 5. Can a Christian female student dress casually to attend a school docile in the mosque? 6. By approving the hyjab, the government has placed Islam above other religion and such giving special waiver for their female students to dress the way they like 7. Are you saying the traditionalists can dress according to their religion to school . 8 . The Saraki family had the influence and temerity to do that controversial stunt but rather took the path of peace and the state was adjudged one of the most peaceful states in Nigeria ( unverified). 9. Don't be a slave to religion but know that it just a way to worship God. Aregbe tried and it backfired, Zamfara started the sharia law and we can see how it went . In conclusion, religion will not guarantee good governance, it will not put food on the table , it will not make you better than your neighbors and The Almighty God is not interested in religion. God is love and those that must worship him must love. 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by emmyrate1(m): 10:55am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Sirjamo:nobody is forcing u to take Ur wards to xtain school. Muslim is just a set of confused people who don't really know the God they are fighting for 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Thelife: 10:56am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Sterope:But a lot of moslom attend missionary school and still a moslom even your formal KANO EMIR attended a missionary school. So funny how you people are in pain. Well your Arab terrorist land Invader invade our land too but they never brought anything good apart from Arabic school that keep breeding terrorist and almajiri Can you give us prove that those school was built on your so called forefathers tax? 3 Likes |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Jyde89: 11:01am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Sirjamo: can the Muslims allow a non ijab wearing student attend their school? |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Thelife: 11:02am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Sterope: https://punchng.com/we-wont-allow-hijab-in-kwara-mission-schools-can-insists/ " Owoeye, who said Christians are bona fide citizens of the state, added, “We have equal rights under the provisional constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.” He argued that the government was aware that Christian Religious Knowledge teachers were not posted to Muslim grant-aided schools and that the gathering of Fellowship of Christian Students was not allowed in Muslim grant-aided schools. “Similarly, we want the government to be informed that her decision and plan to provide hijab and enforce its use in our Christian mission grant-aided schools will not be tolerated as it is an infringement on our freedom of religion as enshrined in the constitution of Nigeria,” he said." But you can't allow them to hold fellowship |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Nobody: 11:04am On Mar 19, 2021 |
gaskiyamagana:religion of coercion, you guys can not do without showing your true colors. Terrorist!! 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Xclusivedaniel6(m): 11:05am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Blankstare: see this one charlatan My grandfather was a chronic Muslim to the core, no ile keu, no food for you that day. But on his last days on earth, he bought bibles and was reading it in secret So save yourself this religious fanaticism and seek for ultimate truth 1 Like |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Nobody: 11:07am On Mar 19, 2021 |
nurain150:Disconnecting yourself from reality? You know nothing! |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Sterope(f): 11:07am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Unlike you, I don't support madness. Muslim grant-aided schools are in the wrong here. I am for Christians holding their fellowships and having access to their religious studies in those schools. Thelife: |
Re: Hijab Crisis: Kwara CAN Releases 1974 Agreement With Govt(photo) by Sterope(f): 11:10am On Mar 19, 2021 |
Since you have shown to be fundamentally stupid, this is my last reply to you. People survivng despite persecution isn't an argument for what happened. Many of those schools are paid by our non-Chrisitians ancestors in blood and sweat. Thelife: |
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