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Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 4:38pm On Mar 19, 2021
Yesterday when I was chatting with some people here about the opportunity we have to make Americans beg to have Nigerian visas, some people disagreed with me. They disagreed because they believe that
"Nigeria can never work"
as many people now feel good to say.

Now, I will give my 7+3 reasons why we should fight to take Nigeria from the enemies instead of seeking to break up the country. I will first give you the 7 strongest reasons and then, 3 more.

I know that many people will hate me for this. That's OK, but at least, hear me out first. Wherever I seem to be getting it wrong, feel free to disagree with or even bash me. Let's disagree to agree as they said Zik said.

After giving my reasons why we shouldn't be seeking new nations, I will also offer my ideas on how we can take our country from our real enemies without bloodshed or risk to life/property.
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 4:40pm On Mar 19, 2021
1. IT'S HYPOCRISY TO SAY THAT NIGERIA CAN NEVER WORK

I'm surprised that many Nigerians say this so often and so comfortably - "Nigeria can never work". Ironically, such an expression of faithlessness contradicts the tenets of our various religions - whether Christianity, Islam, Judaism, or even the African Traditional Religion. I challenge anyone who does not agree with me here to bring up his superior view to the table.

Therefore, unless we admit that we are all hypocrites in our various religions, we must stop expressing such deep levels of faithlessness. Instead, let everyone reading this know it at heart that we can still make something good out of Nigeria. Oh yes, WE CAN. Our case isn't hopeless yet or at all. That's faith. Anything else comes from the evil one.

Meanwhile, who doesn't agree that losing hope on Nigeria contradicts the heart of the faith we profess in our various religions?

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 4:42pm On Mar 19, 2021
Well, presuming that you will all agree with that clear truth, I continue: Our faith shouldn't be for fancy; or, should it? Each of our religions preaches faith. So, I'm here to give us reasons to fight and take Nigeria from the thieves instead of quitting and abandoning her just because the going got tough.

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2. WE NEED TO KEEP OUR PROMISES TO NIGERIA

We all said, "I pledge to Nigeria my country" as school kids and elsewhere. We concluded it with a prayer, "so help me God". Now, are we giving up on that prayer which means on God? Again, that would be faithless of us.

Another way to put it is: Have we withdrawn our promise from "Nigeria my country" finally? If yes, what does that say about us? That we can't be relied on? That we are only fair-weather citizens? Of course, it also means that we will remain fair-weather even if we get new nations. Yes, new nations do not necessarily translate to better nations (examples abound).

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 4:44pm On Mar 19, 2021
3. WE SHOULDN'T BE WEAKLINGS

I came to NL to talk about brands but I started getting other beautiful inspirations. This is one of them. I'm saying that we have better reasons to fight and defeat the enemies of our dear old "my country Nigeria" than to abandon her at these difficult times. That will portray us as a race of weaklings.

The only race dominated by Arab Fula people is the Black Race. Also, we are the only human race that is not ruling over any other race. What's responsible for this? It's because we are weaklings from generation to generation. The good news, however, is that we can change all that if we can get committed to it.

Meanwhile, Nigeria is a brand that we need to protect and promote rather than demarket. So, I think that I'm still keeping to my objective for coming on board. Huh! (to sound like Shekau - one of the enemies we are forcing to fall in soon). They're the weaklings, not the rest of us law-abiding citizens.

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by Nobody: 4:48pm On Mar 19, 2021
With all this your useless explanation. For the past 3 days I have not seen power supply for up to 10 hrs.

If we can't make ordinary power supply work in this time and age were countries like Benin republic, togo, Ghana etc dey enjoy power supply, yet you think a country like nigeria will work?

With this present structure we are running, nigeria can never develop.

We need to restructure or total break up of nigeria

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 4:53pm On Mar 19, 2021
4. IT IS SELFISH TO TRY TO QUIT (WHICH MEANS WE'D ALWAYS QUIT AGAIN WHEN CHALLENGED)

I've already said it in passing. The thriving economies that we envy are so because some people chose to fight for a future generation to be happier than themselves. Countries like the US, UAE, Germany, France, and even our own South Africa come to mind here.

Show me an economy that is poor and I will show you a people whose ancestors were selfish scumbags. Oh, and while many of us love to curse our ancestors for failing to fight for us to enjoy peace and dignity in our lifetimes, our own offsprings may have even bigger reasons to curse us when we finally become ancestors... unless we earn their respect NOW. Remember: we are becoming ancestors soongrin Bitter truth though to those who lack vision!

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 4:55pm On Mar 19, 2021
5. STARTING NEW SOVEREIGN NATIONS WILL SET BACK THE HANDS OF OUR CLOCK

If the new nations that some people are seeking to have would be significantly better than what we already have, I would have said, "OK, let's pay the price in time, treasure, or talents - whatever it takes". Unfortunately, every indication shows that another South Sudan may just be on the way in each of the nations people are seeking to establish out of Nigeria (see the next point for more detail).

Added to that, starting new nations promises to set back the hands of our clock. Do you know what it takes to lay a solid foundation for a new nation? It's not enough to be a zealot or an orator like Nnamdi Kanu. Rather, it requires very high levels of discipline, maturity, and tradition. Otherwise, just a few blunders to be committed by the leaders of the new nation will have the majority of the people in a deep mess (blunders like Kanu supporting the Republicans in the US only for the Democrats to win. Now, he has lost the support of a major world power for the next 8 years and probably much longer. I need someone to hit me here. But, make sure you "HIT RESPONSIBLY"grin).

I know that many shallow thinkers would say, "we don't care. Let's just get out of this shithole and we can sort ourselves out. Let's get to the bridge before we cross it". But, do you know what? That's one of the attitudes our older generations had that is the reason why things are so bad for us today. It is one reason they failed and we criticize them. It's also one reason we're bound to fail unless we think clearly and redress NOW.

He who fails to plan, plans to fail. Getting to the bridge before you cross it, amounts to failing to plan. It amounts to leaping before you look. It's stupid to do. So, let's not do it.

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BigSarah(f): 4:58pm On Mar 19, 2021
Shit , Bulls hit...
The house is on fire, let's be calm it will soon rain.... That's the meaning of all you wrote.

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by Nobody: 5:04pm On Mar 19, 2021
BrandBrainBox:
Yesterday when I was chatting with some people here about the opportunity we have to make Americans beg to have Nigerian visas, some people disagreed with me. They disagreed because they believe that
"Nigeria can never work"
as many people now feel good to say.

Now, I will give my 7+3 reasons why we should fight to take Nigeria from the enemies instead of seeking to break up the country. I will first give you the 7 strongest reasons and then, 3 more.

I know that many people will hate me for this. That's OK, but at least, hear me out first. Wherever I seem to be getting it wrong, feel free to disagree with or even bash me. Let's disagree to agree as they said Zik said.

After giving my reasons why we shouldn't be seeking new nations, I will also offer my ideas on how we can take our country from our real enemies without bloodshed or risk to life/property.
Only a fool does same thing over n over and expect changes ...

U are here seeing how many tribe in Nigeria don't trust the fulanis and claim they want to take over their land ...and it's not unfounded ...

1) land was given to fulanis in southern kaduna years ago to stop the killing , same was done in jos .... fulanis accepted the land ...turned it to a local government and appointed emir
As if that's not enough , they tried to take over lands in mali , central africa republic , ghana , senegal ...

And the Nigerian government seems to be supporting them by stripping the locals power to defend and protect themselves

2) we are people of different values ...core north want a sharia system ....the rest Nigeria wants a libra society

North are socialist ...the rest are capitalist
We are like water n oil we can't mix

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 5:05pm On Mar 19, 2021
6. THERE ARE DANGERS AHEAD ALREADY

Yes, I will also tell you the dangers ahead of Biafra and Oduduwa, for example, that many of the agitators are not yet seeing. Factions are already emerging to make the prospective new nations another hell as Nigeria is now considered a hell by many of her citizens. See Kanu here and Dokubo there with their groups all poised to take it out against each other in a nation that would be too young to stand such squabbles. Then, in Yorubaland, the Igbohos and the Tinubus will be pitched against each other in a fight for supremacy.
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 5:11pm On Mar 19, 2021
7. SO, THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIA IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH HER NAME OR LOCATION - IT IS A PROBLEM WITH HER PEOPLE

Ours is basically a problem with our attitude, not with our latitude. So, even if we change our name or our boundaries, the problem still remains until we change our attitude. And, if we can change our attitude for good right now, we'll soon realize how our problems get solved.

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 5:13pm On Mar 19, 2021
Let me stop here briefly and see if anyone agrees or disagree with me. Next, I will give my remaining 3 reasons before offering my views on how we can immediately begin to turn things around by just changing our attitudes - which is not difficult either. Just believe me: we are taking this country back from those who have stolen it from us even before many of us were born - which is the reason many people's destinies get thwarted here and they live all their lives suffering unnecessarily.

We often blame it on an imaginary Devil (which may be true too in some way). But, we need to find that Devil in ourselves and destroy it once and for all (may not be what you think though).
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by CandyOps(m): 5:21pm On Mar 19, 2021
Firstly, this argument wasn't built-up properly. The premise doesn't add up.

I mean, it's quite bold of you to assume everyone in Nigeria is superstitious and believes in 'faith' and/or a God figure. This makes your assumptions invalid.

Like how in the world do you start a convo about bettering Nigeria from a spiritual angle?! This guy and this thread is a joke

But since we swear oaths in the names of Gods we'll just let that slide And assume the unity or progress/retrogression of Nigeria depends on the spirituality of it's people.

Secondly, religious differences is a MAJOR CAUSE of discord and fracas in Nigeria. There is also a very thin line between religious fueled crises and ethnic fueled differences.

Secondly, even if Nigeria will work, I think it won't happen for at least another 50 - 100 years because our generation still has enof hate and disgust for other tribes because c'mon, you don't wake up one morning and suddenly become best friends with a people who's tribe almost eliminated yours.

You just skipped the main issue with Nigeria which is the inability to #SoroSoke


Nigeria can't work in our generation or in the generation to come. Because memories of the ethnic cleansing masked as a Civil War is still very fresh in our minds and you can't just sweep that shit under the rug.

Besides, Nigeria can't work... not with the incredible number of uneducated, unregistered street urchins a particular tribe keeps doling out per second.

Do you ever sat back to think about the effects of the multitude of illiterate unaccounted for kids being pushed out en-masse into the society by a particular tribe of this country??

Years from now, these uneducated folks will cause more Havoc and wreck to the already dilapidated state of the country.

In fact, the Red Flags are there for everyone to see. Ignore it at your own peril.

God forbid say I born pikin for this Naija..

**Spits***


I dey go report case for police now, and I go put bribe money for wallet.

I dey enter court to book a law suit, I never even enter finish, them dey hustle me like say na motor park I dey.. no official protocol or price.

I enter airport, tasking go nearly kill me.

To go school nko, we go take the same exam with the same brain, I go smash the exam with 70+ over 100 still won't get admission into school but then.. another person wey dey a particular tribe in Nigeria go score 30+ over 100 in the same test and get that admission.

I never even enter health, banking sector wey some people dey buy dollars for another rate others go pay more. Country wey get 4 diff standard exchange rate.

God no go forgive me if I born pikin for this country and don't make plans or avenue for him/her to leave it.


Nigeria wey you go pay Lecturer to teach you pikin, them go dey bang una pikin low-key to pass exams wey you pay for. and you can't even do shit about it.

Imagine the absolute nonsense going on in state owned schools like Esut, IMSU etc... Lectures dey literally fvck any student they seem right or frustrate your life's. So tee them dey even install mattress for their offices.


Nigeria na scam.
I'll advice young men to make use of their laptops for better work and stop playing video games and chatting casually on it.

Bomb if you want to. Do legit if you want but use your lappy well. Online go soon cast so now wey we dey use am cash out better join the train.

Make money secure your future and your seeds future.

Once Dem born you for Nigeria, be like say Dem just sub you enter football match wey your team dey lose 9 - 1 or first half. Come expect you to do magic equalize the whole goals.

If you be fine boy wahala.

Guy Bleep you and Bleep your Nigeria abeg.

If possible, the government should just take the oil and let igbos go our own way.

We don't need the oil.
We just need a chance to breathe. And space to hustle like we always do. is that too much to ask?!


.... .....

Okay let's on a flip side agree that this contraption called Nigeria is workable, what happens to all the crimes against humanity committed already.

Who pays for it? Or do we sweep all the injustice away. Our future savings been syphoned away the shores of the country by every single adminstration. Who pays for it?

You somehow managed to skip all the vital discussions that should be held even before talking about the continuity of the country.

Who gives two fcuks about the beauty in our diverse culture?? When human life is worth a little below that of a cow.

What happens to the victims of war and the warlords and their bankrollers ?


You just gotta address all these emotions with practical workable approach.

We have to start engaging our young ones to take basic military training and self-defense drills to be better equipped for the disaster about to befall this country with the way things are going.

Most importantly there should be a complete implementation of capital punishment for public officers who embezzle funds.

If you are caught stealing in the local market you get lynched instantly. The sane punishment should metered to public officers who are convicted of fraud.


With time, the justice will sleep down to the cell of the society and family. Gradually the flushing begins. Now ask yourself if this is something you see the Nigerian government doing?

That's why I think it can't work for this country again
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 5:54pm On Mar 19, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
With all this your useless explanation. For the past 3 days I have not seen power supply for up to 10 hrs.

If we can't make ordinary power supply work in this time and age were countries like Benin republic, togo, Ghana etc dey enjoy power supply, yet you think a country like nigeria will work?

With this present structure we are running, nigeria can never develop.

We need to restructure or total break up of nigeria

Do you know why the Black Race is the only human race that the Arab Fula people were able to rule over as it's happening in Nigeria? It's because we have all sorts of beastly weaknesses. One of them (which is the main reason we lag far behind in inventions) is that we generally lack the ability to be CONSISTENTLY CONSTRUCTIVE in our affairs. Instead, we're more likely to be DESTRUCTIVE. And, this destructiveness of ours is usually SELF-DESTRUCTIVE.

We think we're doing someone else when we're actually dealing sorely with ourselves. On this note, I want to advise you to learn to be more CONSTRUCTIVE than DESTRUCTIVE in your criticism of people. If you don't, you are messing yourself up more than anyone else.

For instance...
* You will lose your inner peace.
* You will be perceived as untrained and barbaric (which will deny you opportunities in prestige-demanding positions)
* As you obviously want to jet out of Nigeria into a new nation of your own, such a destructive attitude cannot help you to build a great nation. Because building a nation is a CONSTRUCTIVE, not a destructive venture.

Well, thanks for knowing that my explanations are useless. I love them that way. If you have a constructive argument, bring it up and let's see how stupid I might be.
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 6:09pm On Mar 19, 2021
BigSarah:
Shit , Bulls hit...
The house is on fire, let's be calm it will soon rain.... That's the meaning of all you wrote.

I believe that you could make this point only because you didn't take time to reason my presentation through. Or else, can you point out any place where my presentation suggests, we should do nothing about the situation as you accused me of?

Meanwhile, I think that this applies to you too..

BrandBrainBox:


Do you know why the Black Race is the only human race that the Arab Fula people were able to rule over as it's happening in Nigeria? It's because we have all sorts of beastly weaknesses. One of them (which is the main reason we lag far behind in inventions) is that we generally lack the ability to be CONSISTENTLY CONSTRUCTIVE in our affairs. Instead, we're more likely to be DESTRUCTIVE. And, this destructiveness of ours is usually SELF-DESTRUCTIVE.

We think we're doing someone else when we're actually dealing sorely with ourselves. On this note, I want to advise you to learn to be more CONSTRUCTIVE than DESTRUCTIVE in your criticism of people. If you don't, you are messing yourself up more than anyone else.

For instance...
* You will lose your inner peace.
* You will be perceived as untrained and barbaric (which will deny you opportunities in prestige-demanding positions)
* As you obviously want to jet out of Nigeria into a new nation of your own, such a destructive attitude cannot help you to build a great nation. Because building a nation is a CONSTRUCTIVE, not a destructive venture.

Well, thanks for knowing that my explanations are useless. I love them that way. If you have a constructive argument, bring it up and let's see how stupid I might be.
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 6:39pm On Mar 19, 2021
Igbochief001:

Only a fool does same thing over n over and expect changes ...

U are here seeing how many tribe in Nigeria don't trust the fulanis and claim they want to take over their land ...and it's not unfounded ...

1) land was given to fulanis in southern kaduna years ago to stop the killing , same was done in jos .... fulanis accepted the land ...turned it to a local government and appointed emir
As if that's not enough , they tried to take over lands in mali , central africa republic , ghana , senegal ...

And the Nigerian government seems to be supporting them by stripping the locals power to defend and protect themselves

2) we are people of different values ...core north want a sharia system ....the rest Nigeria wants a libra society

North are socialist ...the rest are capitalist
We are like water n oil we can't mix

Thanks for giving what I consider the only constructive response so far. For me, most of our problems as Africans emanate from our mental laziness by which we are largely unwilling to listen to a different view, learn a new thing or give constructive reasons for the things we may do. Instead of constructive, we are more likely to throw tantrums and be destructive in the face of problems. You can see that manifesting above already.

Thank God you are different. Now, my response to you: Our elders have a saying that goes, "instead of me to angrily give up what is mine, I will angrily take it back". Only a grasshopper breaks its neck because it's angry, not a human.

All these things you have mentioned are happening only because our country has been stolen from us by some enemies from beyond our shores. What I'm saying basically is that instead of us to leave our country for the thief or break it up because of the enemy (which is like someone breaking his beautiful glass cup just because someone stole it from him and he found out), let us use the idea I'm here to reveal and TAKE BACK what is ours. How do you respond to this?

The point you raised about having a different system in the North than the South makes sense. But remember, this is not the only pluralistic country on Earth. With the idea I'm here to offer, we can coexist and our differences will become a source of strength rather than weakness.

With this, let me drop my Number 8 reason why we shouldn't break up.

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 6:51pm On Mar 19, 2021
8. OUR VARIETY IS BEAUTIFUL

I came to realize how beautiful Nigeria is once in 2002 when I attended a national church conference in Ibadan. We had a song procession in which different tribes from Hausa to Igbo to Yoruba to Edo, Tiv, Nupe, Ibibio, etc sang in their respective tongues. It was so beautiful I could have died for joy!

Now, whether in fine art, music or science, or whatever else, variety is always the spice of life while monotony kills interest. Our variety is our beauty in so many ways only that the beauty is currently being messed up by the cancer of foreign domination which we can easily remove if only Nigerians can listen to me.

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 7:10pm On Mar 19, 2021
9. OUR POPULATION IS OUR STRENGTH

Yes, Nigeria is enjoying many political and economic privileges in international politics just because of our population. Of course, politics is a game of numbers always. Now, the economic benefits due to our population eventually trickle down and go round.

For you to understand this better, here is what happened between me and a Nairalander when we were talking about top Nigerian brands that are making the country a global destination. Someone objected as to why I included Bet9ja on the ground that it is the only Nigerian brand that made it to the top 200 most visited sites in the world, going by Alexa ranking. So, this is the response I gave him. Thank God he was convinced at the end of the day.

BrandBrainBox:


Bro (or sis?), thanks for your strong interest in this. First, click here to see Bet9ja.com's page on Alexa. It was ranked 173rd yesterday while I was writing but today at about 11:50 am (WAT), it was 174th.

Next, here is an example of how Bet9ja.com's top place on the Alexa list could help to make Nigeria a global destination: Entrepreneurs across the world often get involved in SEO and SEM researches. One of the favorite points of such a research is to find high PR sites to target their backlinks at or for other marketing insights. And one of the common ways to locate high PR sites is to look for those that top the Alexa chart.

In the process of looking for 'top 100, top 200, top 1000, etc sites on Alexa, a wealthy but adventurous entrepreneur in Canada might discover that a betting platform made it to the top 200 on the globally respected ranking. The business man in the guy might begin to ask why it is so. Then, he discovers that it is so because the site in question is located in a country with huge populations of unemployed youths. This could inspire the entrepreneur to set up a production plant somewhere in Nigeria because it means he can get labor more readily and so, cheaper.

That's an investor coming to explore Nigeria. And when he sets up his plant, many of his skilled workers will certainly relocate to Nigeria. Also, many of his customers will be coming to Nigeria for business. And, if I must tell you this, many companies with bases in Nigeria were moved by such factors as availability of cheap labor, access to the sea, and a huge local market. These are some of the reasons attracting investors to Nigeria in spite of many extraordinary challenges that characterize the country's local business environment.

If you still disagree, feel free to air your further objections. Thanks once again.

Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BigSarah(f): 7:16pm On Mar 19, 2021
BrandBrainBox:


I believe that you could make this point only because you didn't take time to reason my presentation through. Or else, can you point out any place where my presentation suggests, we should do nothing about the situation as you accused me of?

Meanwhile, I think that this applies to you too..


I read your proposed solutions and to be honest it's no different from what Nigeria and Nigerians have been doing already..
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 7:24pm On Mar 19, 2021
10. OUR COUNTRY CODEgrin

Well, somehow, I mean to be funny with this last point - because we must learn to be happy no matter how difficult life gets. It makes things a lot easier.

That said, I have to confess, Nigeria's country code '234' is one of the things I will miss if the country ever breaks up. If we're ever lucky enough to have creative leaders (which must happen), then, you will be surprised how that beautifully unique country code can be used to launder the image of the country to a lot of advantages.

Nigeria is beautiful in so many ways. But some enemies are contending against our blessings. It's why I'm saying we shouldn't let it be.

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Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 9:33pm On Mar 19, 2021
Until we Black people are ready to reason through our problems, we'll remain slaves for ever. Our inability to reason well is why we're the only race that the Arab Fula people are ruling everywhere. We should be ashamed of this enough to change it.

Let's have growth mindset. Let's change our lot.
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by Sharingiscaring: 9:40pm On Mar 19, 2021
BrandBrainBox:
8. OUR VARIETY IS BEAUTIFUL

I came to realize how beautiful Nigeria is once in 2002 when I attended a national church conference in Ibadan. We had a song procession in which different tribes from Hausa to Igbo to Yoruba to Edo, Tiv, Nupe, Ibibio, etc sang in their respective tongues. It was so beautiful I could have died for joy!

Now, whether in fine art, music or science, or whatever else, variety is always the spice of life while monotony kills interest. Our variety is our beauty in so many ways only that the beauty is currently being messed up by the cancer of foreign domination which we can easily remove if only Nigerians can listen to me.
Everything you said made sense except this. Our differences are too much to be reconcilable. How on Earth can you make a Fulani to coexist with an Igbo for example?
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by Nobody: 10:16pm On Mar 19, 2021
BrandBrainBox:


Thanks for giving what I consider the only constructive response so far. For me, most of our problems as Africans emanate from our mental laziness by which we are largely unwilling to listen to a different view, learn a new thing or give constructive reasons for the things we may do. Instead of constructive, we are more likely to throw tantrums and be destructive in the face of problems. You can see that manifesting above already.

Thank God you are different. Now, my response to you: Our elders have a saying that goes, "instead of me to angrily give up what is mine, I will angrily take it back". Only a grasshopper breaks its neck because it's angry, not a human.

All these things you have mentioned are happening only because our country has been stolen from us by some enemies from beyond our shores. What I'm saying basically is that instead of us to leave our country for the thief or break it up because of the enemy (which is like someone breaking his beautiful glass cup just because someone stole it from him and he found out), let us use the idea I'm here to reveal and TAKE BACK what is ours. How do you respond to this?

The point you raised about having a different system in the North than the South makes sense. But remember, this is not the only pluralistic country on Earth. With the idea I'm here to offer, we can coexist and our differences will become a source of strength rather than weakness.

With this, let me drop my Number 8 reason why we shouldn't break up.
U don't get me ...it's possible for us to coexist years lebanon is worse than us but they live happily , christians ,jews and muslims

Now the question is would north allow for reforms that would make is coexist ? Can fulani kill there dream to own land upto the atlantic ocean ? ....u and I know the answer is no they won't ....that's why it's impossible to coexist

Would Nigeria allow Igbos to form regional government with Igbos in south south and control their police and resources ? ...u know the answer is no

We are two different to be one , 1900 Igbos were the least educated , by 1960 they were among the most educated because they were open minded ...same period fulanis went from the most enlightened to the most backward

We are two different to mix bro the list us endless
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by Advocatejustice(m): 10:20pm On Mar 19, 2021
11. YOUR HEAD NO CORRECT!!!
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by BrandBrainBox: 10:25pm On Mar 19, 2021
Igbochief001:

U don't get me ...it's possible for us to coexist years lebanon is worse than us but they live happily , christians ,jews and muslims

Now the question is would north allow for reforms that would make is coexist ? Can fulani kill there dream to own land upto the atlantic ocean ? ....u and I know the answer is no they won't ....that's why it's impossible to coexist

Would Nigeria allow Igbos to form regional government with Igbos in south south and control their police and resources ? ...u know the answer is no

We are two different to be one , 1900 Igbos were the least educated , by 1960 they were among the most educated because they were open minded ...same period fulanis went from the most enlightened to the most backward

We are two different to mix bro the list us endless
If only we can look far enough. A proof that break-up is not the answer is the current war brewing between the Kanu camp and Dokubo camp. As for Fulani taking everything, well, I will be giving us updates on how we're going to wrest the country from Fulani stranglehold.
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by omoharry(f): 10:31pm On Mar 19, 2021
BrandBrainBox:
6. THERE ARE DANGERS AHEAD ALREADY

Yes, I will also tell you the dangers ahead of Biafra and Oduduwa, for example, that many of the agitators are not yet seeing. Factions are already emerging to make the prospective new nations another hell as Nigeria is now considered a hell by many of her citizens. See Kanu here and Dokubo there with their groups all poised to take it out against each other in a nation that would be too young to stand such squabbles. Then, in Yorubaland, the Igbohos and the Tinubus will be pitched against each other in a fight for supremacy.
When that the comes,the south will sit down and decide if we should stick together. Since we have the same ideology to life. Or, go our seperate ways. But I believe that the voice of reason will prevail so that each southern state will be independent from the federal govt & pay tax . As for state that cannot survive on thier own can merge with another state to form a formidable force to economic purpose .
Southern Nigeria can then have thier restructured country, which they have ever wanted and we will continue to sit and renegotiate our existence as a country
( meaning the freedom of referendum and secession will be stated in the constitution. So that no ethnic group will feel trapped in the country ) .
So ,to hell with your unity begging messages .It does not favour anyone but only a few .Its better to have a smaller country, where citizens can live with dignity than live in a big for nothing & a hopeless country like Nigeria, where the citizens are treated like animals by thier own govt .
Do you think it's easy to take Power from these corrupt politicians? these are people that have all the means to fight you ?Do you think that a devided country like Nigeria, where the people have weak mind to reason deep, won't be a willing tools to fight against what you stand to achieve ?
Do you think it easy to unit the whole of Nigerians against thier corrupt leaders, without changing thier language immediately they receive N5000 to fight against you ? See how the Endsars turned out ?

The very people you are fighting for will be use as a weapon to fight and bring you down .Why? Hunger and mental slavery .

So, you must be joking, if you think that you can just turn things around for good, without putting in a fight .
How many hungry youth will follow you anyway, without selling you to your enemies for a pot of portage?
How many will listen to you without turning every thing into a tribal and religious affair and heap on ur head ? Pls tell us something else .

A one Nigeria to me is almost gone. Except the people decide to rise against thier leaders (which is impossible ) .It will rather take a Carmel to pass through the eyes of a nidle than for the citizens of Nigeria to unite to fight thier currupt leaders .
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by 10mobile: 10:33pm On Mar 19, 2021
Advocatejustice:
11. YOUR HEAD NO CORRECT!!!
Just say that your brain is too weak to understand his points. You just manifested one of the problems he's hammering on, the inability to be constructive.
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by theTranslator: 10:37pm On Mar 19, 2021
We need to go back to federalism
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by EzeNri(m): 10:45pm On Mar 19, 2021
Unity beggar
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by docdes: 10:59pm On Mar 19, 2021
EzeNri:
Unity beggar
Most of you are proving the op right by the way you're responding. Unity beggar? What does that mean?
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by Benteazaa(m): 10:59pm On Mar 19, 2021
Dead vulture seller, is that you or your brother
Re: Let's Look Before We Leap: See Why We Shouldn't Seek To Break Up Nigeria by docdes: 11:01pm On Mar 19, 2021
This is a superb presentation. But, op, I'm waiting to see the solution you have.

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