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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 9:28am On Mar 21, 2021
gbadexy:

I use 1040 watts solar panel with a 50 amps charger.
Your appliances would determine the KVA of the inverter and battery capacity to use.

Thanks
Can solar power be used to power ACs (2-3) without having to break the bank?

To use 2-3 ACs, only 2-4 bulbs and maybe 1 TV would be on..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 9:48am On Mar 21, 2021
somehow:


Thanks
Can solar power be used to power ACs (2-3) without having to break the bank?

To use 2-3 ACs, only 2-4 bulbs and maybe 1 TV would be on..
I have no Idea of the wattage of the ACs.
What KVA generator would power the appliances?
That would give you the Idea of the inverter capacity to use and the number of batteries.
You may spend close to N1.5 m or more for that but I guess the amount is relative in terms of cost.
That may be breaking the bank for people like us but definitely a pocket change for our ogas here.
With my layman idea, I know you would definitely need more than 3 KVA inverter and more than 400 ah batteries.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 9:55am On Mar 21, 2021
Dennis3D:


So sorry about that @Focusmind
Ade, kindly attend to this.
Or let's talk about on whatsapp or direct call.
Thanks.
thanks boss am just seeing this since yesterday,
Firstly help me to ask him, this first question ,( am I the one give the job to do in the first in the first place, and who did u give to do pls, ? Ist not adedward pls, u give work to hsl broker and he contact me here to do the work for him, he just abandon the work with me for many months, before calling me to finish it with u, and aloni the line glass was brake, and it's grey glass, I cant find in ur area, I said u should give me time to have work around ur area, since we can't do see the glass there, and come here and want to rubbish my name for the work I helped u to achieve from hsl broker, see client ooo,

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:00am On Mar 21, 2021
Up there is the classic “We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service” clause that I preach on here. Yah all don’t have to accept all work that crosses your paths.

Once you touch it, you own it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:11am On Mar 21, 2021
somehow:


Thanks
Can solar power be used to power ACs (2-3) without having to break the bank?

To use 2-3 ACs, only 2-4 bulbs and maybe 1 TV would be on..

Regardless of your load and energy consumption, the essence of a very good smarthome design is to control energy usage through a variety of smart-home energy-saving strategies.

You need systems that can turn appliances off completely when not in use, eliminating the energy drain from idling appliances.

For instance, my security lights automatically come on at 7pm and is turned off at 6:30am every day even when I’m not in town thus conserving energy.

Years back, I have programmable thermostats on my power-hungry devices. Today, I realize that a well configured smart thermostat will do a better job that the manual ones as it’ll take some of the guesswork out and enabling the device's smarts to proactively manage energy use.

More importantly, I’m able to save more on my energy bills because my house is designed to conserve energy (there are wraparound terraces and covered porch allowing fresh air and sunlight to pour into my very spacious interior). This is a different ball game for those who are trying to play catch up.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 10:14am On Mar 21, 2021
Dennis3D:


So sorry about that @Focusmind
Ade, kindly attend to this.
Or let's talk about on whatsapp or direct call.
Thanks.
pls sir, let's be clear to this man, u give hsl broker this job not adedward pls, he contacted me to do it for him, u Don't know what he told me, so if u want to laid any complained u have to go back to him, and he will call me, because u Don't know our discussion, u can spoil my image here, because l am not have any agreement with u, call hsl broker let's him call me, complain to him let's him complain to me, dats how it should be, don't trying to destroy ur name pls thanks,

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 10:26am On Mar 21, 2021
Focusmind:


Lucky you bro! Lucky you! I wasn't lucky with Adedward as you were.

He delivered broken windows to me, incomplete net size and worst of it, put an empty white pipe as burglary without iron! Yes, you heard me right, white pipe without an iron in one of my large windows he supplied.

I have been asking him to come and rectify this for the past 7 months. He kept shifting the goal post. He told me to get someone, may be another aluminum person to estimate the cost of fixing those things mentioned and he would reimburse the aluminum guy. He was given the quote of what it would cost to change the broken glasses, put the correct window net size and replace the empty pipes he put as burglary, but he vehemently refused, saying it was high and that he would come himself or send someone to fix them.

Bro, we have been on that since. He hasn't yet come, neither has he sent anyone. Series of messages were sent to him to know the time he would be coming but he refused to answer, neither did he reply my call.

I am not here to rubbish Adedward as it is not in my character. I always exercise patience, even with my workers and my subordinates. I give people time to correct themselves and make amends. However, I hate it when I am being taken for granted.

I will keep using people from this site for my project. I have had fantastic guys worked on my projects from this site.

Notwithstanding, I am still weighing my option and watching him on 3D. I am waiting for his rebuttal and challenge, if he is up to it.
boss thank for ur message this is adedward but remember u don't give this work to do in the first place, it's hsl broker u give this work to not me, and I am not the one came to install the windows because I don't want any probs, so if u see any complained about the windows u have to call hsl broker for repair and hsl broker will call me, but instead of doing dat u keeping call me, and I said I will help u to do it, but since today the person u give work to have not call me for any repairs in ur project, and u are keeping shout my name, did I collect work from u pls, u are free to tell everyone here if u give me work, pls call the person u give the project to do, pls if it's true u have anything to do with ur windows he is the one will tell me thanks,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:40am On Mar 21, 2021
EgunMogaji2:
Up there is the classic “We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service” clause that I preach on here. Yah all don’t have to accept all work that crosses your paths.

Once you touch it, you own it.

Preach on. You have a witness in the house.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by keemzy1(m): 10:50am On Mar 21, 2021
Apt.. Very apt


EgunMogaji2:
Up there is the classic “We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service” clause that I preach on here. Yah all don’t have to accept all work that crosses your paths.

Once you touch it, you own it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 10:57am On Mar 21, 2021
n3xt:


Regardless of your load and energy consumption, the essence of a very good smarthome design is to control energy usage through a variety of smart-home energy-saving strategies.

You need systems that can turn appliances off completely when not in use, eliminating the energy drain from idling appliances.

For instance, my security lights automatically come on at 7pm and is turned off at 6:30am every day even when I’m not in town thus conserving energy.

Years back, I have programmable thermostats on my power-hungry devices. Today, I realize that a well configured smart thermostat will do a better job that the manual ones as it’ll take some of the guesswork out and enabling the device's smarts to proactively manage energy use.

More importantly, I’m able to save more on my energy bills because my house is designed to conserve energy (there are wraparound terraces and covered porch allowing fresh air and sunlight to pour into my very spacious interior). This is a different ball game for those who are trying to play catch up.


What kind of smart home devices do you use and what do they handle in your home specifically?

How spacious are the spaces in your home feet wise?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:00am On Mar 21, 2021
gbadexy:

I have no Idea of the wattage of the ACs.
What KVA generator would power the appliances?
That would give you the Idea of the inverter capacity to use and the number of batteries.
You may spend close to N1.5 m or more for that but I guess the amount is relative in terms of cost.
That may be breaking the bank for people like us but definitely a pocket change for our ogas here.
With my layman idea, I know you would definitely need more than 3 KVA inverter and more than 400 ah batteries.

So let's say like 5KVA inverter and like 600 maH batteries can comfortably power a 4-5 bedroom duplex? (Not like every appliances would be active at once.) I actually meant solar panels.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by igbonla(m): 11:39am On Mar 21, 2021
somehow:


Thanks
Can solar power be used to power ACs (2-3) without having to break the bank?

To use 2-3 ACs, only 2-4 bulbs and maybe 1 TV would be on..

You will break the bank to have solar power for 2-3 ACs, especially if you are gonna run them at night too.

2 ACs will require something around 8Kva inverter and that's roughly about 1.5M for a good one, you will require about 10,000W panels too (30 panels X 300/350W), at about 60k for a good panel, that about 1.8M. You will need nothing less than 40kwh of battery to use 2 ACs at night and that's huge! Somewhere around 12-15M for Li-ion! These figures are not exact, just about but you can see how you have to break the bank, a good bank.
Adding the 3rd AC will make it worse, it is doable if you can afford it.

You still need that energy audit before moving to design for your need.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by igbonla(m): 11:41am On Mar 21, 2021
somehow:


So let's say like 5KVA inverter and like 600 maH batteries can comfortably power a 4-5 bedroom duplex? (Not like every appliances would be active at once.)

What do you have in the 4-5 bedroom duplex? Some appliances are like a V8 Tundra, even when they run alone!

Get an audit done first.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:44am On Mar 21, 2021
igbonla:


You will break the bank to have solar power for 2-3 ACs, especially if you are gonna run them at night too.

2 ACs will require something around 8Kva inverter and that's roughly about 1.5M for a good one, you will require about 10,000W panels too (30 panels X 300/350W), at about 60k for a good panel, that about 1.8M. You will need nothing less than 40kwh of battery to use 2 ACs at night and that's huge! Somewhere around 12-15M for Li-ion! These figures are not exact, just about but you can see how you have to break the bank, a good bank.
Adding the 3rd AC will make it worse, it is doable if you can afford it.

You still need that energy audit before moving to design for your need.

Jesus!
Say wetin happen?
Am I powering an estate?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:45am On Mar 21, 2021
igbonla:


What do you have in the 4-5 bedroom duplex? Some appliances are like a V8 Tundra, even when they run alone!

Get an audit done first.

Just asking some questions for future reference.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:51am On Mar 21, 2021
somehow:


What kind of smart home devices do you use and what do they handle in your home specifically?

How spacious are the spaces in your home feet wise?

My Energy Conservation and Home Automation Device List

Gate/Fence Light/DC Water Pump control - Centurion Chronoguard Function
This device run on 650VA backup battery and it can power the gate for at least 48 hours when there’s power outage. It also turn on the water pump on programmed days of the week all year round.

Smart plugs - Surgeguard (remote controlled)
This is what my entertainment systems are connected to. Once I switch off the master port, all the slave port goes off automatically thus conserve energy.

ACs/Freezer - Programmable plugs (thermostat)
I intend upgrading this to smart thermostat.

Bulbs - Phillips Hue
I’ve been using this bulbs for over 9 years. I’ll order more soon to replace the “na this one good” naija bulbs that get replaced every month.


Spaces

Lounge/Dining/Ante/Entrance Porch - 80sqm +

Entrance Porch only (Pic 1 below) - 20sqm
Lounge only - 38sqm
All Rooms are above standard room size.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 11:58am On Mar 21, 2021
Adedward:
pls sir, let's be clear to this man, u give hsl broker this job not adedward pls, he contacted me to do it for him, u Don't know what he told me, so if u want to laid any complained u have to go back to him, and he will call me, because u Don't know our discussion, u can spoil my image here, because l am not have any agreement with u, call hsl broker let's him call me, complain to him let's him complain to me, dats how it should be, don't trying to destroy ur name pls thanks,

Alright Ade. I will call you directly for more explanation. No need to go back and forth here. People might read things differently. If need be, and Focusmind is willing, alongside HSL Broker, a conference call wouldn't be a bad idea.

People dragging anyone around here without the way it's been done in the past here doesn't help anyone. It rather makes people look bad before the eyes of innocent members here.

In the course of work execution. Everyone experiences challenges. A good run with a client, might not be a good a run with another client with a different understanding of things.

Above all, making headway and forward movement over the tasks is what matters.

If you don't mind on this.

Personally we met here, and since 2018 till date. I don't have any bad work experience with you, we have had challenges and all were worked upon by mere understanding. No need for name callings.

Thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 12:01pm On Mar 21, 2021
michlins:
please sir, I'm not a structural engineer but whatever design you finally come up with, I will make it a reality. I have been doing this and will deliver.


Thanks

Sharp shooter.
Good work always... Well done

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 12:02pm On Mar 21, 2021
gbadexy:

Exactly sir. They make the money they are losing on the prepaid meters from the estimated bills they give unmetered people and are reluctant to process the meter fast so that they keep milking the people.

I think you are right on this statement coz it's ridiculous these days
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23(m): 12:10pm On Mar 21, 2021
somehow:


Thanks
Can solar power be used to power ACs (2-3) without having to break the bank?

To use 2-3 ACs, only 2-4 bulbs and maybe 1 TV would be on..

Yes you can use solar inverter to power AC but the size rating must be between 10-15KVA. The load consumption of the conventional AC is high but there are some low power consumption AC called inverter AC..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 12:10pm On Mar 21, 2021
n3xt:


My Energy Conservation and Home Automation Device List

Gate/Fence Light/DC Water Pump control - Centurion Chronoguard Function
This device run on 650VA backup battery and it can power the gate for at least 48 hours when there’s power outage. It also turn on the water pump on programmed days of the week all year round.

Smart plugs - Surgeguard (remote controlled)
This is what my entertainment systems are connected to. Once I switch off the master port, all the slave port goes off automatically thus conserve energy.

ACs/Freezer - Programmable plugs (thermostat)
I intend upgrading this to smart thermostat.

Bulbs - Phillips Hue
I’ve been using this bulbs for over 9 years. I’ll order more soon to replace the “na this one good” naija bulbs that get replaced every month.


Spaces

Lounge/Dining/Ante/Entrance Porch - 80sqm +

Entrance Porch only (Pic 1 below) - 20sqm
Lounge only - 38sqm
All Rooms are above standard room size.

Thanks for the information
Till the bridge stage.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 12:11pm On Mar 21, 2021
topsy23:


Yes you can use solar inverter to power AC but the size rating must be between 10-15KVA. The load consumption of the conventional AC is high but there are some low power consumption AC called inverter AC..

Yes, I have heard of Inverter AC unlike the traditional ones.

Also saw one called Dual inverter (LG)
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 12:19pm On Mar 21, 2021
Dennis3D:


Sharp shooter.
Good work always... Well done
there are two people in this world, people who take opportunities as they come and people who complain about lack of opportunities

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 12:22pm On Mar 21, 2021
gbadexy:

Exactly sir. They make the money they are losing on the prepaid meters from the estimated bills they give unmetered people and are reluctant to process the meter fast so that they keep milking the people.

Well for me, I don’t allow them to meter my commercial projects. They take their readings from the transformer.
Just bill me for my consumption and not what I have inside my property. That I have them doesn’t mean I run them all at once.

This explains why I have N11,000 bill on my transformer.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 12:27pm On Mar 21, 2021
Adedward:
boss thank for ur message this is adedward but remember u don't give this work to do in the first place, it's hsl broker u give this work to not me, and I am not the one came to install the windows because I don't want any probs, so if u see any complained about the windows u have to call hsl broker for repair and hsl broker will call me, but instead of doing dat u keeping call me, and I said I will help u to do it, but since today the person u give work to have not call me for any repairs in ur project, and u are keeping shout my name, did I collect work from u pls, u are free to tell everyone here if u give me work, pls call the person u give the project to do, pls if it's true u have anything to do with ur windows he is the one will tell me thanks,

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 12:34pm On Mar 21, 2021
Dennis3D:


Alright Ade. I will call you directly for more explanation. No need to go back and forth here. People might read things differently. If need be, and Focusmind is willing, alongside HSL Broker, a conference call wouldn't be a bad idea.

People dragging anyone around here without the way it's been done in the past here doesn't help anyone. It rather makes people look bad before the eyes of innocent members here.

In the course of work execution. Everyone experiences challenges. A good run with a client, might not be a good a run with another client with a different understanding of things.

Above all, making headway and forward movement over the tasks is what matters.

If you don't mind on this.

Personally we met here, and since 2018 till date. I don't have any bad work experience with you, we have had challenges and all were worked upon by mere understanding. No need for name callings.

Thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by woles3435: 12:38pm On Mar 21, 2021
Hello, I need a professional advise and service on Architectural Planning and quantity surveying cost of 2 units of two bedroom with 2 units of room and parlor self contain or 3 units of two bedroom bungalow in Abeokuta.

I will appreciate your advise and service. Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 12:40pm On Mar 21, 2021
Adedward:
thanks boss am just seeing this since yesterday,
Firstly help me to ask him, this first question ,( am I the one give the job to do in the first in the first place, and who did u give to do pls, ? Ist not adedward pls, u give work to hsl broker and he contact me here to do the work for him, he just abandon the work with me for many months, before calling me to finish it with u, and aloni the line glass was brake, and it's grey glass, I cant find in ur area, I said u should give me time to have work around ur area, since we can't do see the glass there, and come here and want to rubbish my name for the work I helped u to achieve from hsl broker, see client ooo,

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 12:44pm On Mar 21, 2021
Focusmind:


Just listen to yourself. Zero integrity!

Agreed that HSL Broker sublet the contract to you, did he ask you to deliver broken glasses? You did the job yourself, loaded them yourself and sent your boys to deliver and mount them.

You even called to request for extra cash to cover the large size of the net because of the size of the windows which I wired to you and yet you delivered a short-size net, insufficient to cover the window area.

As if that was not enough, your burglary had empty pipe without iron! Bro, don't drag your name further to the mud.

You promised to come and rectify all these yourself. You collected a job from HSL and deliver broken and cracked glasses. Was it HSL that delivered the cracked glasses. Did he ask you to deliver cracked glasses.

Please own up and stop messing up your name.
when u told us dat glass was broken, obviously know it's not possible to bring the broken glass from office, it can happened when they are coming to deliver, and we tryed to tell hsl broker about dat, he didn't say anything about dat till now, and he still have some money to balance which u don't know, so do u want me to be buy replacement of glass while u are not balance for the original work, (No ) dats why I said call him and complain to him he will call me , and by calling me he with have my balance with him, am sure, u even begged me before attend to u last time because the work has been abbandon for many months because he didn't send money, and things has getting high den, now u are getting me angry,

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 12:49pm On Mar 21, 2021
EgunMogaji2:
Up there is the classic “We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service” clause that I preach on here. Yah all don’t have to accept all work that crosses your paths.

Once you touch it, you own it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 12:51pm On Mar 21, 2021
Focusmind:


Your glasses could not be seen anywhere when there are aluminium people everywhere? You said we should get someone to fix it and you would reimburse the person and you went awol.

More than 10 months, you were still looking for the grey glasses? Bro, you never had the mind to fix it and it was written all over you.

I serve clients as well in my trade and I do go extra mile to rectify issues no matter how it came about. You are here defending the indefensible.

the things is dat u are not my clients sir, and there issues with hsl broker u gave work to, and we haven't solve the issues, so call him, don't waste ur time,
I don't do dat to my clients anyway, u can ask here, u can see feed back about my service, u can still free to check my tread, so I don't do dat, it's ur client u will call to call me thanks,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 1:02pm On Mar 21, 2021
topsy23:


Yes you can use solar inverter to power AC but the size rating must be between 10-15KVA. The load consumption of the conventional AC is high but there are some low power consumption AC called inverter AC..

1 and 1.5hp inverter ac is what I standardize on.

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