Illimitable:


VDS’ 71 saves per season isn’t comparable to De Gea’s 115.

VDS ass was covered by Rio and Vidic.

A Gk that commands his area.

Good at Set pieces (PK included).

Who covered his ass at Fulham and Ajax?

CapitalCee:


Gary Neville is one of the best right backs in EPL history. Are you sure you watched Neville in his peak years?

make we no talk that one. Neville is one of the weak links in that United defence. All these English players who were wack have a way of propping themselves up after retirement. People like Neville, Carragher and Rio were carried by more talented teammates

In Man Utd of 1999, You will pick 7 players and not even consider Neville.
Cole, Yorke, Keane, Scholes, Giggs Beckham Stam, Schmeichel were better he can only drag with Irwin, Butt, Johnsen, Solksjaer

Illimitable:


Drogba would have taken Terry’s penalty.

The last time he did at Allianz Arena, the mighty Bayern fell on their sword.

Similar outcome would have happened in Moscow.

Who told you that Drogba would have replaced Terry in the shootout line up?

Drogba missed his penalty in 2006 AFCON final against Egypt and Missed another one versus Zambia in 2012 Final, so what made you think he will score VDS if he had taken the penalty?

Expert17:


A Gk that commands his area.

Good at Set pieces (PK included).

Who covered his ass at Fulham and Ajax?

He was shit at Fulham & he was great at Ajax.

Before you chart the discourse into a different territory. The question(to begin with) was if any player in the current squad would get a start in 07/08 United team.

I don’t know why you are mentioning Fulham and Ajax.

raumdeuter:


make we no talk that one. Neville is one of the weak links in that United defence. All these ENglish players who were wack have a way of propping themselves up after retirement. People like Neville, Carragher and Rio were carried by more talented teammates

In Man Utd of 1999, You will pick 7 players and not even consider Neville.
Cole, Yorke, Keane, Scholes, Giggs Beckham Stam, Schmeichel were better he can only drag with Irwin, Butt, Johnsen, Solksjaer

Who carried Rio at Leeds and before Vidic joined?

You don start with this Rio agenda

CapitalCee:


Who told you that Drogba would have replaced Terry in the shootout line up?

Drogba missed his penalty in 2006 AFCON final against Egypt and Missed another one versus Zambia in 2012 Final, so what made you think he will score VDS if he had taken the penalty?

Terry replaced Drogba in the shootout.

It was well documented that Drogba had been pencilled down as the last taker in the first 5 takers.

Terry took his place cos he wanted all the glory and slipped.

Drogba took it in 11/12 in a similar circumstance and he ruined Neuer. VDS would have been sent back to Amsterdam from Moscow.

Expert17:


If Paul Scholes decides to come out of retirement today, he is going to bench all this midfielders we are parading.

All of them at once

Illimitable:


He was shit at Fulham & he was great at Ajax.

Before you chart the discourse into a different territory. The question(to begin with) was if any player in the current squad would get a start in 07/08 United team.

I don’t know why you are mentioning Fulham and Ajax.

So Fergie signed a shitty GK to help fix our goalkeeping problem?

Back to 07/08 matter, Degea of 17/18 can't start ahead of VDS.

Expert17:


Alabi no sabi football, na just noise.

It's not his fault. His age showed

raumdeuter:


make we no talk that one. Neville is one of the weak links in that United defence. All these ENglish players who were wack have a way of propping themselves up after retirement. People like Neville, Carragher and Rio were carried by more talented teammates

In Man Utd of 1999, You will pick 7 players and not even consider Neville.
Cole, Yorke, Keane, Scholes, Giggs Beckham Stam, Schmeichel were better he can only drag with Irwin, Butt, Johnsen, Solksjaer

Neville was good but i see what you mean, In 1999 team nearly Everybody in that team were better in thier positions than Neville was in his. Irwin was clearly the better of the fullbacks. Solskjaer and butt are not first team anyway.

Dayo Rio Ferdinand was a world class player forget his Englishness

Illimitable:


Terry replaced Drogba in the shootout.

It was well documented that Drogba had been pencilled down as the last taker in the first 5 takers.

Terry took his place cos he wanted all the glory and slipped.

Drogba took it in 11/12 in a similar circumstance and he ruined Neuer. VDS would have been sent back to Amsterdam from Moscow.

Its very clear you are not serious.

Expert17:
Who carried Rio at Leeds and before Vidic joined?
You don start with this Rio agenda

Make we no lie, Rio was the Maguwaya of that era

Expert17:


Who carried Rio at Leeds and before Vidic joined?

You don start with this Rio agenda

Its clear Dayo has an agenda against Rio.

CapitalCee:


Neville was good but i see what you mean, In 1999 team nearly Everybody in that team were better in thier positions than Neville was in his. Irwin was clearly the better of the fullbacks. Solskjaer and butt are not first team anyway.

Dayo Rio Ferdinand was a world class player forget his Englishness

Forget na Vidic be Rios helper of destiny. When he partnered a fellow useless defender like Terry, we saw their effect for England. To qualify for Euro 2008 even turn WAEC

Expert17:


So Fergie signed a shitty GK to help fix our goalkeeping problem?

Back to 07/08 matter, Degea of 17/18 can't start ahead of VDS.

Because Fergie was deluded & wanted a more experienced GK instead of a youth. Fergie was offered Petr Cech but he refused citing he was too young to deal with the pressure.

Then Cech shocked him at Chelsea - this was why Fergie didn’t hesitate when De Gea(19 years) was offered to him. Fergie said he learnt a painful lesson after missing out on Cech.

CapitalCee:


Its very clear you are not serious.

I sent you a screenshot of what Avram Grant’s assistant said about the incident & you are telling me I am not serious.

What is with you people and the reluctance to admit you are wrong?

CapitalCee:


Bruno is not Scholes level na. Schole is clearly better. Leyqute was like the 2008 scholes is already old and not at his peak

Same Scholes that was brought back in SAF last season? Like 4 years after this same 2008 that you said Scholes was already old?

And they aren't even in competition for same spot. They don't play same position or role

raumdeuter:


Forget na Vidic be Rios helper of destiny. When he partnered a fellow useless defender like Terry, we saw their effect for England. To qualify for Euro 2008 even turn WAEC

That is the problem Terry and Ferdinard are similar they should have been paired with Campbell and King.

Same way England midfield was struggling with Hagreaves, Carrick, Parker, Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes etc

CapitalCee:


Oshea is not going out of that sub bench, he is one of the first name on that bench alongside Park. Lol. He can play anywhere in the field very comfortably even as a keeper. I remember his late winning goal at Anfield and his winner versus Arsenal in UCL 1st leg semis 2009.

I know Oshea is utility Player, but I will still send him out of the Squad. Park also is utility, though from midfield to front. Brown can play multiple positions at the back, thus there is no Reason IMO to keep Oshea in the Squad.

raumdeuter:


Forget na Vidic be Rios helper of destiny. When he partnered a fellow useless defender like Terry, we saw their effect for England. To qualify for Euro 2008 even turn WAEC

Terry and Rio both won champions league, they were not the reason England did mot win matches. Moreover in 2010 WC due to injury Mathew Upson patnered Terry, the only tournament they both play together they went out in the quarter finals after a goaless 120 minutes. Infact they both did not concede any goal when playing together, they got 4 clean sheets in 5 in that world cup. The only match they concede versus sweden it was Campbell that played

Expert17:


Nice one!

Replace Hargreaves with Scholes.

How he thinks Scholes was supposed to play that Bruno's position is baffling. And Bruno doesn't even have half of Giggs intelligence

Expert17:


Same way Nani was red-carded against Madrid, we would have won that game.

Fergie got his tactics wrong in those 2 finals (09 and 11).

Nothing could have stopped Barca, only luck

eph12:

Same Scholes that was brought back in SAF last season? Like 4 years after this same 2008 that you said Scholes was already old?

And they aren't even in competition for same spot. They don't play same position or role

Scholes rejoined January 2013 and was among our players of the season.

45 years old Scholes wil still shit on our current midfielders.

raumdeuter:


Forget na Vidic be Rios helper of destiny. When he partnered a fellow useless defender like Terry, we saw their effect for England. To qualify for Euro 2008 even turn WAEC

Terry is a useless defender? SMH!

Who’s this raumdeuter dude? He has the worst take on football in this thread.

eph12:

Nothing could have stopped Barca, only luck

I was expecting Fergie to park bus, but baba was playing Chicharito in 2011.

Mourinho's team would have won at least 1 of those finals.

Expert17:


That is the problem Terry and Ferdinard are similar they should have been paired with Campbell and King.

Same way England midfield was struggling with Hagreaves, Carrick, Parker, Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes etc

That style is called pointing to who will do the work while they collect the plaudit

Expert17:


Scholes rejoined January 2013 and was among our players of the season.

45 years old Scholes wil still shit on our current midfielders.

That’s an indictment on the Glazers and SAF that enabled them.

The same Scholes wouldn’t get into the starting XI of Barcelona, Madrid or Bayern in 2012.

This is why we are here today. When other clubs did away with nostalgia and signed competent midfielders, Fergie saved money for the Glazers by bringing Scholes back.

United could have signed Ozil, Modric, etc back then to fill the gap. It’s no wonder everything went to shit immediately SAF left.

CapitalCee:


Paul scholeso of 2008, it is debatable sha. If its prime Paul Scholes, Bruno is no where near

Exactly. This is what Dayo didn’t consider. Scholes of 2008 is different from a younger Scholes.

Bruno go still get mouth small when compared with the ageing Scholes. If you place him beside a much younger Scholes he’ll be eviscerated.

CapitalCee:


Terry and Rio both won champions league, they were not the reason England did mot win matches. Moreover in 2010 WC due to injury Mathew Upson patnered Terry, the only tournament they both play together they went out in the quarter finals after a goaless 120 minutes. Infact they both did not concede any goal when playing together, they got 4 clean sheets in 5 in that world cup. The only match they concede versus sweden it was Campbell that played

Terry won the CL in the stands, Any fan in the stadium contributed the same to winning as Terry.

You said the only tournament they both played together.. That is the point you cant crash out when you dont qualify.

Can Ole lose the CL quarter finals this season?

Illimitable:


Terry is a useless defender? SMH!

Who’s this raumdeuter dude? He has the worst take on football in this thread.

Facts only. Terry was a very useless defender and Almos every Chelseas CL exit between 2003 and 2015 falls on the incompetence of Terry. I will say as much as 70% of Chelsea exits falls on Terry

The only CL semi and Finals he missed was when they won, when he did Chelsea a favour by getting red carded

KingAlabi:


Them say drop opinion I drop my own and e still choke you.

I clearly said choosing rashy na personal bias, for giggs part I don't personally think giggs can play that AM like Bruno.

Pogba during SAF and now na same thing?

eph12:

makes me wonder what exactly Rashford, Bruno and Pogba have done that will make them replace those guys between 2007 and 2009

Expert17:


Alabi no sabi football, na just noise.

CapitalCee:


Alabi no watch that team dont blame him. Rashford no fit even clean Tevez shoe, lol.
Bruno na my guy but Giggs and Scholes are not his level.

Really cracked up.

Leyqute:


Exactly. This is what Dayo didn’t consider. Scholes of 2008 is different from a younger Scholes.

Bruno go still get mouth small when compared with the ageing Scholes. If you place him beside a much younger Scholes he’ll be eviscerated.

Paul Scholes of 2008 will still shitt on anyone, Someone already mentioned that Paul Scholes 3-4yrs later still came to be your best midfielder.

That guy was a talent. If he enters your team today worst case he will be 2nd best at almost 50yrs