raumdeuter:


So these ones won the world cup for their Nation?

Or what did these people win that Vidic didnt?

Traianos Dellas did it for Greece in 2004.

Why can’t Vidic?

raumdeuter:


08/09 na 3 seasons right?

So it’s gone from any season to 3 seasons?

Moving the goalposts as we go along, yeah?

Illimitable:


Traianos Dellas did it for Greece in 2004.

Why can’t Vidic?

You already jumped from Morgan to Carvalho to Dellas, when will you include Semi Ajayi?

Illimitable:


So it’s gone from any season to 3 seasons?

Moving the goalposts as we go along, yeah?

Very convenient to pick the season they played 10men

raumdeuter:


You already jumped from Morgan to Carvalho to Dellas, when will you include Semi Ajayi?

Dellas did it for his national team.

Any other excuse?

raumdeuter:


Very convenient to pick the season they played 10men

Whose fault was that?

Illimitable:


Dellas did it for his national team.

Any other excuse?

Rio nor Terry couldnt do for their NT

This is Terry getting sodomized by Shabani Nonda
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/69sSL3.gif[/img]

This is vs Morientes in the 2004 CL semi running around aimlessly like a familiar spirit
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/M9RTfI.gif[/img]

This is vs Luis Garcia in the 2005 CL semi finals which Chelsea lost. See Terry in Jersey 26 jumping like an epileptic patient
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/hlH3L-.gif[/img]

This is vs Atletico in the 2014 CL semi final which Chelsea lost see Terry just clueless all over the place
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/meFEjN.gif[/img]
All in crucial CL semi finals which Chelsea lost all

This is a CL crucial match where Terry was marking his own man



The only CL that Chelsea won, Terry was sent off in the semi finals and missed the final

raumdeuter:


Give me 3 random seasons that Chelsea failed to win the CL when Terry was a starter and I will provide you evidence

10/11.

United mauled Chelsea home and away - I think Giggs provided all the assists in both legs.

Terry was not at fault for any of the 3 goals conceded.

Prove Terry was at fault in Stamford Bridge or at Old Trafford.

Tick tock, Raumdeuter.

Expert17:


You don't like Terry, Rio and Van Dijk.

But you love Boateng, haba Dayo

He cannot like any Chelsea legend after we broke his heart in 2012 at his backyard. He hates Terry, Lampard and Drogba.

raumdeuter:


Lyon reached the CL semi last season, Just like Leipzig did.

Not like he did not reach another Semis in his career again. Rio reached more semis with United. In 2007 Rio was not there versus Milan. Why didn't Vidic carry Brown and co pass Acmilan into the final?

Note: for me Vidic has a slight edge over Rio as a defender

raumdeuter:
This is Terry getting sodomized by Shabani Nonda
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/69sSL3.gif[/img]

This is vs Morientes in the 2004 CL semi running around aimlessly like a familiar spirit
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/M9RTfI.gif[/img]

This is vs Luis Garcia in the 2005 CL semi finals which Chelsea lost. See Terry in Jersey 26 jumping like an epileptic patient
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/hlH3L-.gif[/img]

This is vs Atletico in the 2014 CL semi final which Chelsea lost see Terry just clueless all over the place
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/meFEjN.gif[/img]
All in crucial CL semi finals which Chelsea lost all

This is a CL crucial match where Terry was marking his own man



The only CL that Chelsea won, Terry was sent off in the semi finals and missed the final

The 2005 CL semis, the ball didn’t cross the line.

Poor officiating cost Chelsea again.

This Raumdeuter guy has no shame.

Blaming Terry for Nonda’s goal, the goalkeeper should have saved that. He got a hand to it. A strong arm would have pushed that ball out of play.

CapitalCee:

Not like he did not reach another Semis in his career again. Rio reached more semis with United. In 2007 Rio was not there versus Milan. Why didn't Vidic carry Brown and co pass Acmilan into the final?

Note: for me Vidic has a slight edge over Rio as a defender

Vidic has a significant edge over Rio. The type of edge Ronaldo has over Morata

CapitalCee:


Bruno is more of Rooney role to be honest. Scholes was a CM while Bruno is an AM. In Fergie's 4-4-2 Bruno will be an SS

Exactly! So Rooney or Bruno, who you going for?

Illimitable:


The 2005 CL semis, the ball didn’t cross the line.

Poor officiating cost Chelsea again.

[img]https:///media/11-17-2016/hlH3L-.gif[/img]

See epilepsy in defence. Terry should be ashamed of himself

Illimitable:
This Raumdeuter guy has no shame.

Blaming Terry for Nonda’s goal, the goalkeeper should have saved that. He got a hand to it. A strong arm would have pushed that ball out of play.

If Terry wasnt sleeping, he gets there before Nonda

[img]https:///media/11-17-2016/69sSL3.gif[/img]

raumdeuter:


Vidic has a significant edge over Rio. The type of edge Ronaldo has over Morata

They complement each other.

Vidic is the attack bulldog, Rio is the luxury Rolls Royce that just cleans up the mess.

This is like saying Terry has a significant edge over Carvalho - it would be an abomination.

There’s always the aggressive type and the composed type in central defending.

raumdeuter:


[img]https:///media/11-17-2016/hlH3L-.gif[/img]

See epilepsy in defence. Terry should be ashamed of himself

For a ball that didn’t cross the line but the referee gave.

That’s poor officiating. Nothing to do with Terry.

Just making things up to suit your agenda.

Illimitable:


They complement each other.

Vidic is the attack bulldog, Rio is the luxury Rolls Royce that just cleans up the mess.

This is like saying Terry has a significant edge over Carvalho - it would be an abomination.

There’s always the aggressive type and the composed type in central defending.

Is this the euphemism for carry along?

With Rio injured a lot, Vidic in 2010/2011, Was partnering any donkey available to win the league be it Smalling Evans or anyone.

if you go watch ball for stadium Ferguson fit call you to partner Vidic and clean sheet sure

Illimitable:


For a ball that didn’t cross the line but the referee gave.

That’s poor officiating. Nothing to do with Terry.

Just making things up to suit your agenda.

Can you tell what Terry was doing in the frame? Is that how to defend?

raumdeuter:


Is this the euphemism for carry along?

Vidic in 2010/2011, Was partnering any donkey available to win the league be it Smalling Evans or anyone.

Ferdinard did same in 2012/2013

raumdeuter:


If Terry wasnt sleeping, he gets there before Nonda

[img]https:///media/11-17-2016/69sSL3.gif[/img]

That was a back pass to the goalkeeper - why didn’t he catch it?

If De Gea or any other goalie fumbled that, the defender wouldn’t be blamed. If the goalie’s hand touched the ball then it ought to have been saved.

Ambrosio’s hand was too weak and I cannot remember anyone blaming Terry for that goal. Ambrosio got all the blame as he wasn’t even Chelsea’s first choice GK.

raumdeuter:


Is this the euphemism for carry along?

With Rio injured a lot, Vidic in 2010/2011, Was partnering any donkey available to win the league be it Smalling Evans or anyone.

if you go watch ball for stadium Ferguson fit call you to partner Vidic and clean sheet sure

One can say the same in 12/13.

Rio made more appearances than Vidic and even made PFA team of the season. United won the title with 6 or so games to spare.

Arsenal formed a guard of honor for United.

Expert17:


Ferdinard did same in 2012/2013

Illimitable:


One can say the same in 12/13.

Rio made more appearances than Vidic and even made PFA team of the season. United won the title with 6 or so games to spare.

Arsenal formed a guard of honor for United.

Are you ready for some quick Maths on this 2012/13 season?

Games Vidic played in the league 19, 14 goals conceded
Games Rio played in the league 28, 33 goals conceded

You can very these numbers from transfermarkt Before we go ahead

raumdeuter:



Are you ready for some quick Maths on this 2012/13 season?

Games Vidic played in the league 19, 14 goals conceded
Games Rio played in the league 28, 33 goals conceded

You can very these numbers from transfermarkt Before we go ahead

In the games Vidic played, how many of them featured Rio?

Look at this fraudulent guy.

eph12:

Exactly! So Rooney or Bruno, who you going for?

Rooney is better clearly

Illimitable:


In the games Vidic played, how many of them featured Rio?

Look at this fraudulent guy.

We are getting there, We need to agree on baselines first

We will look at Goals conceded with Rio-without Vidic vs With Vidic-without Rio

Are you satsfied with these metrics?

raumdeuter:


Vidic has a significant edge over Rio. The type of edge Ronaldo has over Morata

Ur views on players u don't like ehn

Ronaldo -Morata is wot u are using to compare Vidic and Rio??

raumdeuter:


We are getting there, We need to agree on baselines first

We will look at Goals conceded with Rio-without Vidic vs With Vidic-without Rio

That’s the one of the stats we need to look at - not your bogus selective stat.

We will also look at the quality of opposition Rio faced alone vs the ones Vidic faced.

A game at Anfield Rio played in without Vidic is different from a game at Old Trafford Vidic played without Rio against QPR.

Illimitable:


That’s the one of the stats we need to look at - not your bogus selective stat.

We will also look at the quality of opposition Rio faced alone vs the ones Vidic faced.

A game at Anfield Rio played in without Vidic is different from a game at Old Trafford Vidic played without Rio against QPR.

Vidic without Rio conceded
Matchday 1 vs Everton 1 goal
Matchday 2 vs Fulham 2 goals
Matchday 18 vs Swansea 1 goal
Matchday 36 vs Chelsea 1 goal

Total Vidic without Rio conceded 5 goals the entire season

Kindly verify and confirm before we move ahead sir at this points its too late to run away

Expert17 you sef join body, Make I show you wetin Ronaldo like me take pass Moratas like una two

My source transfermarkt

raumdeuter:



Are you ready for some quick Maths on this 2012/13 season?

Games Vidic played in the league 19, 14 goals conceded
Games Rio played in the league 28, 33 goals conceded

You can very these numbers from transfermarkt Before we go ahead

You are comparing Vidic and Ferdinard partnership to Ferdinard and Evans

Show us Vidic stat with Rio and without Rio in 2010/2011