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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by kimco(m): 3:05pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:



The reason while I feel I need to rule is because I can't stand seeing people suffer. I read politics in school and I was the Union leader for my set. Now is not the time to pray for Nigeria to be better but to rather work towards making it better. Yes as Christians our kingdom is not of this world, but we are in the world and must live in it. There's a charge for us already. " When the wicked rule the people suffer, but when the just rule, the people rejoice" it's time for the just to go into politics so that the people can rejoice.
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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:06pm On Mar 28, 2021
kimco:


This monicker is an Ewe name. Are you an Ewe? Also, ypu are right on the money.

What's Ewe? And what money are you talking about I'm confused sir.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by kimco(m): 3:08pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:


What's Ewe? And what money are you talking about I'm confused sir.

The name is from my tribe....we are the Ewe tribe, found in ghana, togo and benin. Im ghanaian by the way.

You are right on the money means you are correct and I agree with you.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:10pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:

The reason while I feel I need to rule is because I can't stand seeing people suffer. I read politics in school and I was the Union leader for my set. Now is not the time to pray for Nigeria to be better but to rather work towards making it better. Yes as Christians our kingdom is not of this world, but we are in the world and must live in it. There's a charge for us already. " When the wicked rule the people suffer, but when the just rule, the people rejoice" it's time for the just to go into politics so that the people can rejoice.
The wicked ruled even when Jesus Christ was on earth yet Jesus Christ never opposed the wicked rulers.. instead He opposed those who would lie in the name of God instead. Did Jesus Christ not have the same passion for the people? He knew what was written in the book of proverbs by Kings(not the people) yet, Jesus Christ did not run for office or even pretend Himself a leader on this earth, why is that? undecided

Jesus Christ lived the Will of God and commanded His followers do exactly as He did. So, why did He choose to turn away from office, defeating the Roman occupiers of His time, to focus instead on serving those who would belong to Him? undecided
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by kimco(m): 3:11pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The wicked ruled even when Jesus Christ was on earth yet Jesus Christ never opposed the wicked rulers.. instead He opposed those who would lie in the name of God instead. Did Jesus Christ not have the same passion for the people? He knew what was written in the book of proverbs by Kings(not the people) yet, Jesus Christ did not run for office or even pretend Himself a leader on this earth, why is that? undecided

Jesus Christ lived the Will of God and commanded His followers do exactly as He did. So, why did He instead, choose to turn away from office, defeating the Roman occupiers of His time, to focus instead on serving those who would belong to Him? undecided

So what do you suggest? Im curious
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:14pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:

You have not met very humble people that's why you are saying all this. Who do you think will fix Nigeria for you? Your prayers?
I have met so many of your so called humble people, and studied then and at the end. I find them wanting because over and over I reality the humility that is not of God is like paint that eventually peels to reveal it was merely a facade to begin with. undecided

God never called man to be humble in the sight of men but in His sight. Our humility and obedience was never meant for other men but for God. That is why Jesus Christ said that He was gentile and humble, not in personality, but at heart where God alone knows and sees it. undecided
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:15pm On Mar 28, 2021
kimco:

So what do you suggest? Im curious
What I suggest? I suggest that as followers of Jesus Christ, we keep the commandments /teachings of Jesus Christ just as Jesus Christ Himself instructed. undecided
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by kimco(m): 3:16pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I have met so many of your so called humble people, and studied then and at the end. I find them wanting because over and over I reality the humility that is not of God is like paint that eventually peels to reveal it was merely a facade to begin with. undecided

God never called man to be humble in the sight of men but in His sight. Our humility and obedience was never meant for other men but for God. That is why Jesus Christ said that He was gentile and humble, not in personality, but at heart where God alone knows and sees it. undecided

Ah but your quotation even pointed out jesus asking leaders to humble themselves and serve as slaves. Please calm down...you are making petty mistakes
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:17pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I have met so many of your so called humble people, and studied then and at the end. I find them wanting because over and over I reality the humility that is not of God is like paint that eventually peels to reveal it was merely a facade to begin with. undecided

God never called man to be humble in the sight of men but in His sight. Our humility and obedience was never meant for other men but for God. That is why Jesus Christ said that He was gentile and humble, not in personality, but at heart where God alone knows and sees it. undecided

There's no way you are an humble person that your won't be humble before God. You don't even know what you are saying self. Keep praying that Nigeria should be better without working towards it ok. As Nigeria dey like this they sweet you na.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:18pm On Mar 28, 2021
kimco:


Ah but your quotation even pointed out jesus asking leaders to humble themselves and serve as slaves. Please calm down...you are making petty mistakes

No mind am. This person is obviously confused. Just laying claims from the Bible with no single scripture to back it up.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:19pm On Mar 28, 2021
kimco:

Because we are in the world. If we dont rule the world well only anarchy will ensue. I dont think Jesus wants to see women raped and kids beheaded because everyone wants to do what they want.

A bad ruler is better than no ruler....and we both know how bad a bad ruler is... Think about it again.
When Jesus Christ was on earth, His people were enslaved by wicked rulers, women raped and the whole shebang, yet Jesus Christ never once stood against the wicked rulers -not once. undecided

Jesus Christ went about doing good, but He never ran for office or took position with the activists o His time and there were many of them too.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:20pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The wicked ruled even when Jesus Christ was on earth yet Jesus Christ never opposed the wicked rulers.. instead He opposed those who would lie in the name of God instead. Did Jesus Christ not have the same passion for the people? He knew what was written in the book of proverbs by Kings(not the people) yet, Jesus Christ did not run for office or even pretend Himself a leader on this earth, why is that? undecided

Jesus Christ lived the Will of God and commanded His followers do exactly as He did. So, why did He choose to turn away from office, defeating the Roman occupiers of His time, to focus instead on serving those who would belong to Him? undecided


Jesus had a mission for coming to the world. To redeem man. Likewise we all have our missions in this world as well. We all can't be pastors in churches. Some have been blessed with leadership qualities and some are destined to rule in this places so what's your point?

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:21pm On Mar 28, 2021
kimco:


The name is from my tribe....we are the Ewe tribe, found in ghana, togo and benin. Im ghanaian by the way.

You are right on the money means you are correct and I agree with you.

Oh ok. My mum is from Republic of Benin and my Dad a Nigerian
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:22pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
When Jesus Christ was on earth, His people were enslaved by wicked rulers, women raped and the whole shebang, yet Jesus Christ never once stood against the wicked rulers -not once. undecided

Jesus Christ went about doing good, but He never ran for office or took position with the activists o His time and there were many of them too.


What was the parable of the good Samaritan? According to this your logic?
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:22pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:

There's no way you are an humble person that your won't be humble before God. You don't even know what you are saying self. Keep praying that Nigeria should be better without working towards it ok. As Nigeria dey like this they sweet you na.
There are many "humble" people out there who don't even believe there is a God. Are you suggesting that though unbelievers, there humility is still of God? undecided

Why should I pray for Nigeria to be better? Is there a reason why anyone who follows Jesus Christ should do that?
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:25pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:

Jesus had a mission for coming to the world. To redeem man. Likewise we all have our missions in this world as well. We all can't be pastors in churches. Some have been blessed with leadership qualities and some are destined to rule in this places so what's your point?
The very same mission Jesus Christ had He gave to you. He told you too to do the Will of His Father, just as He did. He did not call you to be pastors in churches.. He called you to become His followers, doing what He did and more. undecided

Was there a greater leader than Jesus Christ, the one who told you to instead serve others as slaves would? undecided
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:26pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:

What was the parable of the good Samaritan? According to this your logic?
The Samaritan was not a leader in community, concerned about His reputation and time, like the two Jews who went before Him. undecided
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:27pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The very same mission Jesus Christ had He gave to you. He told you too to do the Will of His Father, just as He did. He did not call you to be pastors in churches.. He called you to become His followers, doing what He did and more. undecided

Was there a greater leader than Jesus Christ, the one who told you to instead serve others as slaves would? undecided


And what if Gods will is for me to be there a ruler?

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by kimco(m): 3:28pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:


Oh ok. My mum is from Republic of Benin and my Dad a Nigerian

Oh good, your mum is an Ewe. Lovely name dear.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:29pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The Samaritan was not a leader in community, concerned about His reputation and time, like the two Jews who went before Him. undecided


I was pointing out the doing good to others. How much good can you do as an individual compared to when you are the president or governor?

Also Jesus didn't have a job why are you working?
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:30pm On Mar 28, 2021
kimco:


Oh good, your mum is an Ewe. Lovely name dear.


Thanks wink
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:32pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:
And what if Gods will is for me to be there a ruler?
That would be between you and God. However, in all of History, every man that has ever appointed himself ruler according to God's will has turned out just as wicked as those rulers before him - worse in some case. So ask yourself this , are the wicked rulers you complain about of God's Will? undecided
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by kimco(m): 3:32pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
What I suggest? I suggest that as followers of Jesus Christ, we keep the commandments /teachings of Jesus Christ just as Jesus Christ Himself instructed. undecided

Well since that cannot be, how do we regulate evil doers "controlled by satan"? Do we ignore them and let them kill our women and children? I need practical solutions not ideals...

Be realistic and offer a realistic solution.

Every israelite or atleast most is a trained soldier....because they know even if they are not of this world tgey are in it and require worldly solutions to worldly issues.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:33pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
That would be between you and God. However, in all of History, every man that has ever appointed himself ruler according to God's will has turned out just as wicked as those rulers before him - worse in some case. So ask yourself this , are the wicked rulers you complain about of God's Will? undecided


That's down to you Nigerians, you always vote based on religious and ethnic affiliations instead of rightly
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:35pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:

I was pointing out the doing good to others. How much good can you do as an individual compared to when you are the president or governor?

Also Jesus didn't have a job why are you working?
Jesus Christ did good to at least 5000 people that we are aware of. He was certainly not trying to compete with the government in anyway but He did a lot of good, yet all that good did not change the path His people were headed as a nation, neither did It change the political views any. undecided

As for Jesus Christ and His disciples not having jobs, that is a good observation and a topic to be left for another thread. undecided

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:37pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:
That's down to you Nigerians, you always vote based on religious and ethnic affiliations instead of rightly
You are speaking to the wrong Nigerian then.

I don't believe followers of Jesus Christ should occupy leadership positions of any kind so what makes you think I would vote alone religious or ethnic lines on any matter that has to do with man and the running of his world? undecided
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by kimco(m): 3:40pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
That would be between you and God. However, in all of History, every man that has ever appointed himself ruler according to God's will has turned out just as wicked as those rulers before him - worse in some case. So ask yourself this , are the wicked rulers you complain about of God's Will? undecided

In all history? Which history have you been reading...careful dear, you are coming off as a bit disingenious with your posts.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by kimco(m): 3:40pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
You are speaking to the wrong Nigerian then.

I don't believe followers of Jesus Christ should occupy leadership positions of any kind so what makes you think I would vote alone religious or ethnic lines on any matter that has to do with man and the running of his world? undecided

Are you a JW?
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:41pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
You are speaking to the wrong Nigerian then.

I don't believe followers of Jesus Christ should occupy leadership positions of any kind so what makes you think I would vote alone religious or ethnic lines on any matter that has to do with man and the running of his world? undecided

Thank God you said you don't believe which means your own belief. So sit back and pray for us that mean well for Nigeria to get there . If you don't want to join at least part that God should raise men like Joshua, Daniel, David etc who will do the right. Have a nice day
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:42pm On Mar 28, 2021
kimco:

Well since that cannot be, how do we regulate evil doers "controlled by satan"? Do we ignore them and let them kill our women and children? I need practical solutions not ideals...

Be realistic and offer a realistic solution.

Every israelite or atleast most is a trained soldier....because they know even if they are not of this world tgey are in it and require worldly solutions to worldly issues.
Who gave you the job of regulating evil doers controlled by satan?
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Adjovi: 3:43pm On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ did good to at least 5000 people that we are aware of. He was certainly not trying to compete with the government in anyway but He did a lot of good, yet all that good did not change the path His people were headed as a nation, neither did It change the political views any. undecided

As for Jesus Christ and His disciples not having jobs, that is a good observation and a topic to be left for another thread. undecided


Nah it should be said now. You said Jesus didn't occupy political position so Christians too should not. Jesus didn't have a job either so why are Christians searching for jobs and gaining employment?
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Kobojunkie: 3:50pm On Mar 28, 2021
Adjovi:

Nah it should be said now. You said Jesus didn't occupy political position so Christians too should not. Jesus didn't have a job either so why are Christians searching for jobs and gaining employment?
I can only tell you of what Jesus Christ commanded and did, but not why people choose to do what they do. undecided

According to Jesus Christ, not everyone who calls Him Lord belongs to , or loves Him. He made it clear that only those who obey His commsndments are those who love Him. undecided

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