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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:41pm On Mar 30, 2021
Leyqute:


I agree with your ranking of the strikers.

But with City I’ll go for Kompany, Yahya, Aguero, Silva. Kompany and Yahaya paved the way for Aguero and Silva. They raised the standard of City before the rest became prominent. And it’s not as if they’ll falter if they remained a core part of the team.

I picked Kompany ahead of Yaya because of his longevity and how he makes everyone around him play better. He leads by example. Yahaya was very crucial to City’s development from a top 6 team to a top 2 team.

Aguero is very important as well and I rate him ahead of Silva because he is more consistent. And then there’s ‘Agueroooooooo’.

Henry is the best EPL striker, Rooney edges Aguero , And Drogbas EPL career wasnt very stellar

For City. I pick Yaya first because he was a tank, hardly ever injured and unplayable at his peak, then Aguero because he delivered the goods, then Silva

I think a lot of Kompany myth is hidden under the mysterious "Leadership". For many seasons Kompany was injured and even I don't think he outperformed the other 3 when he was fit.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:43pm On Mar 30, 2021
Unlimited22:

It will be disingenuous to rank the City players solely based on footballing abilities and if you add impact on the club there's no way in hell Kompany comes last.

So what are the things we can use to rank footballers if not solely their footballing abilities

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:44pm On Mar 30, 2021
ShadowCracker:

Henry Rooney Drogba Aguero.
>>>>>> in that order
Aguero Silva Kompany Yaya.

Yaya last? Impossible
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:51pm On Mar 30, 2021
The highest goal scorer in premier league history is the best striker in premier league history periodt.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ShadowCracker(m): 8:01pm On Mar 30, 2021
raumdeuter:


Yaya last? Impossible
It is a toughie cheesy, but Yaya carries last because of his unprofessionalism on the Pep issue.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:02pm On Mar 30, 2021
BlueMann:
There were fears concerning Mount's fitness as he missed England's first training session today. But Southgate has assured that he is fine and in contention to play tomorrow against Poland.

Meanwhile, El Monstro and Tammy are back in training.
Nobody cares.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 8:03pm On Mar 30, 2021
raumdeuter:
Two discussions going on now

In EPL

1. Rooney, Henry, Aguero, Drogba. Rank them

I go for Henry, Rooney, Aguero Drogba in that order

2. For Citeh. Aguero, Kompany, Silva, Yaya

For me I go with
Yaya, Aguero Silva Kompany in that order









Aguero, Rooney, Drogba, Henry.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 8:46pm On Mar 30, 2021
raumdeuter:


Henry is the best EPL striker, Rooney edges Aguero , And Drogbas EPL career wasnt very stellar

For City. I pick Yaya first because he was a tank, hardly ever injured and unplayable at his peak, then Aguero because he delivered the goods, then Silva

I think a lot of Kompany myth is hidden under the mysterious "Leadership". For many seasons Kompany was injured and even I don't think he outperformed the other 3 when he was fit.

The work of an attacker in a team is easy to be noticed than the work of a defender because they hardly score goals. That’s probably why you didn’t give Kompany his due. Being a defender doesn’t reduce his influence in the team.

He was fit and available for the most important phase of the rebuilding and his presence was a major boost. He even won City their last title wirh that long range effort against Leicester City.

You can say you don’t rate him and that’s okay but don’t play down his importance for City during his spell.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 8:52pm On Mar 30, 2021
raumdeuter:


Henry is the best EPL striker, Rooney edges Aguero , And Drogbas EPL career wasnt very stellar

For City. I pick Yaya first because he was a tank, hardly ever injured and unplayable at his peak, then Aguero because he delivered the goods, then Silva

I think a lot of Kompany myth is hidden under the mysterious "Leadership". For many seasons Kompany was injured and even I don't think he outperformed the other 3 when he was fit.

Mention 1 better City defender than Kompany.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:52pm On Mar 30, 2021
Leyqute:


The work of an attacker in a team is easy to be noticed than the work of a defender because they hardly score goals. That’s probably why you didn’t give Kompany his due. Being a defender doesn’t reduce his influence in the team.

He was fit and available for the most important phase of the rebuilding and his presence was a major boost. He even won City their last title wirh that long range effort against Leicester City.

You can say you don’t rate him and that’s okay but don’t play down his importance for City during his spell.


Kompany in the last 4 seasons did not play up to 19 league games in any season. That is half of the games in a season and Kompany didnt even play half.

And that goal vs Leicester cannot be said to have won them the league as there were several 1 goal victories which gave city all 3 points, Any of those games has same weight as the one vs Leicester

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:54pm On Mar 30, 2021
Leyqute:


Mention 1 better City defender than Kompany.

Of course who are the other defence options he played with, Otamendi Demichelis, Mangala, Lescott, Stones, Micah Richards. How hard is it to be better than these options

Because no Man Utd defender is better than Maguire in the current team doesn't make him a great
City defenders are not great. Until this season City's strength is more in their offence which limits the number of times they get attacked

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 9:11pm On Mar 30, 2021
raumdeuter:


Kompany in the last 4 seasons did not play up to 19 league games in any season. That is half of the games in a season and Kompany didnt even play half.

The most important phase of City’s ascension to the top wasn’t in his last 4 seasons. It was pre-2012, when they wrestled the title from SAF. They experimented a lot. Bought lots of talented players- only few became important to the team, Kompany among them.


And that goal vs Leicester cannot be said to have won them the league as there were several 1 goal victories which gave city all 3 points, Any of those games has same weight as the one vs Leicester

Without that goal, they wouldn’t have won the title. It came at the cusp of winning their campaign. The stakes were higher at that point and things were more tense.

City won the opening game of the season against wolves 3-1. How important is that win vs the 2-0 against Aston Villa that took them to the top over United? Is it not the same 3 points ?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 9:17pm On Mar 30, 2021
raumdeuter:


Of course who are the other defence options he played with, Otamendi Demichelis, Mangala, Lescott, Stones, Micah Richards. How hard is it to be better than these options

Because no Man Utd defender is better than Maguire in the current team doesn't make him a great
City defenders are not great. Until this season City's strength is more in their offence which limits the number of times they get attacked



Maguire is not even better than AWB when it comes to defense but okay.

Apples and oranges, Dayo.

City defenders are not great; Kompany is not great; City defenders don’t get work to do, etc. But then it is when Kompany isn’t on the pitch that they become more vulnerable to counters.

Of those defenders you listed , which one is Boateng better than individually? And you even mentioned Micah Richards. Lawd.

NVM Dayo.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 9:19pm On Mar 30, 2021
raumdeuter:
Two discussions going on now

In EPL

1. Rooney, Henry, Aguero, Drogba. Rank them

I go for Henry, Rooney, Aguero Drogba in that order

2. For Citeh. Aguero, Kompany, Silva, Yaya

For me I go with
Yaya, Aguero Silva Kompany in that order

This is so me .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 9:31pm On Mar 30, 2021
Trevor012:
The highest goal scorer in premier league history is the best striker in premier league history periodt.
Have you ever sat down to consider goal to game ratio though?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Odunharry(m): 9:56pm On Mar 30, 2021
raumdeuter:
Two discussions going on now
In EPL
1. Rooney, Henry, Aguero, Drogba. Rank them
I go for Henry, Rooney, Aguero Drogba in that order
2. For Citeh. Aguero, Kompany, Silva, Yaya
For me I go with Yaya, Aguero Silva Kompany in that order
Henry Rooney Aguero Drogba.
Aguero Silva Yaya Kompany.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 10:15pm On Mar 30, 2021
BikeMan:
Have you ever sat down to consider goal to game ratio though?
It's useless.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:49pm On Mar 30, 2021
Trevor012:

It's useless.

grin

Typical scummy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:50pm On Mar 30, 2021
Leyqute:



Maguire is not even better than AWB when it comes to defense but okay.

Apples and oranges, Dayo.

City defenders are not great; Kompany is not great; City defenders don’t get work to do, etc. But then it is when Kompany isn’t on the pitch that they become more vulnerable to counters.

Of those defenders you listed , which one is Boateng better than individually? And you even mentioned Micah Richards. Lawd.

NVM Dayo.

If AWB is your best defender, you can sub him in, That AWB is your best defender does not make him a great or one of the top 5 Man Utd players of the past 5yrs

Boateng is better than everyone of them individually. Yes Micah Richards played with Kompany too. Is there any City defender we are not remembering that can even pass for above average. Mangala Demichelis, Lescott, Otamendi, Stones
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 12:53am On Mar 31, 2021
Trevor012:

It's useless.
What a scummy!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 12:56am On Mar 31, 2021
Trevor012:

It's useless.
Aguero scored 181 goals in just 271 apps but because someone that has appeared 491 times has more goals than him, then the latter is automatically better. Think about these things.

Aguero and Harry Kane are far better goal scorers than Wayne Rooney.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:28am On Mar 31, 2021
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 2emotional(m): 6:07am On Mar 31, 2021
raumdeuter:


That is the end of our CL run. It was a nice run
Psg no fit comot una.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:49am On Mar 31, 2021
Kova had a nice game yesterday.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:52am On Mar 31, 2021
Can't believe for the whole duration of the international break, England vs Poland is probably the only game that remotely seems like a fixture to look forward to. And one of the main factors that made it such is now gone (Lewy).

Instead, people like Lewandowski and Kante dey collect injuries with important UCL games coming up.

Make this break just get out abeg sad
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:56am On Mar 31, 2021
Havertz10:
Nobody cares.

I guess the fears were coming from ghosts then grin

If u don't like him, u can geddifok cos that's what no one cares about, okay? kiss
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:01am On Mar 31, 2021
We go again today

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FergieRaww(m): 8:32am On Mar 31, 2021
raumdeuter:


That is the end of our CL run. It was a nice run

I think you guys have capable players to get through PSG but i think PSG will definitely capitalize on this injury setback

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 9:14am On Mar 31, 2021
FergieRaww:


I think you guys have capable players to get through PSG but i think PSG will definitely capitalize on this injury setback

Dayo is just aiming for a soft landing should Bayern lose. Lewy is quite important but he hasn’t been doing it alone. Bayern has other important players who have been bailing them out. Gnabry, Coman, Sane, Muller. There’s enough firepower to beat PSG.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 9:47am On Mar 31, 2021
Leyqute:


Dayo is just aiming for a soft landing should Bayern lose. Lewy is quite important but he hasn’t been doing it alone. Bayern has other important players who have been bailing them out. Gnabry, Coman, Sane, Muller. There’s enough firepower to beat PSG.


PSG also has firepower. With Lewandowski out the 2 best players in the tie will be Neymar and Mbappe PLUS a good supporting cast.

Bayern are without arguably the best striker in the world and there is no replacement for him of a similar quality. It would be a choke job if PSG do not go through.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:37am On Mar 31, 2021
afrodoc:


PSG also has firepower. With Lewandowski out the 2 best players in the tie will be Neymar and Mbappe PLUS a good supporting cast.

Bayern are without arguably the best striker in the world and there is no replacement for him of a similar quality. It would be a choke job if PSG do not go through.

Teams lose players all the time. They just have to make do with what they have. PSG didn’t play Barcelona with Neymar and it’s not as if Bayern doesn’t have enough firepower to win the tie.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 10:48am On Mar 31, 2021
No excuse for Raumdeuter, please.

You get dumped, you get fvcked. If his team qualifies, he will come here and beat his chest.

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