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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:56am On Mar 31, 2021
raumdeuter:
Two discussions going on now

In EPL

1. Rooney, Henry, Aguero, Drogba. Rank them

I go for Henry, Rooney, Aguero Drogba in that order

2. For Citeh. Aguero, Kompany, Silva, Yaya

For me I go with
Yaya, Aguero Silva Kompany in that order

When you say 'in EPL', do you mean just Premier League matches or including other domestic Cup competitions? Your answer will influence my order..

Meanwhile, in City, I go for..

Aguero, Yaya, Silva, Kompany
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 11:03am On Mar 31, 2021
afrodoc:


PSG also has firepower. With Lewandowski out the 2 best players in the tie will be Neymar and Mbappe PLUS a good supporting cast.

Bayern are without arguably the best striker in the world and there is no replacement for him of a similar quality. It would be a choke job if PSG do not go through.
Lewandowski is vital for them no doubt but the sole outcome of the tie is not only on him.

Football is a team sport and team structure is very vital which i believe bayern is more structured than PSG.
Last season against PSG he is not the best player on the field (not even the fourth best bayern player that night).

Against barcelona they've literally killed barca before he scored.

These tells you he is not the determining factor of the tie.
Egbon just dey look for way out of the possible L.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 11:09am On Mar 31, 2021
airmark:
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:27am On Mar 31, 2021
Skimpledawg . .

According to Daniel Chukwuemeka:

“Better to remain single, bro, than get married to a woman with whom you'll be discussing something important and she'll be telling you that what God cannot do does not exist”

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 11:32am On Mar 31, 2021
OVA200:
Lewandowski is vital for them no doubt but the sole outcome of the tie is not only on him.

Football is a team sport and team structure is very vital which i believe bayern is more structured than PSG.
Last season against PSG he is not the best player on the field (not even the fourth best bayern player that night).

Against barcelona they've literally killed barca before he scored.

These tells you he is not the determining factor of the tie.
Egbon just dey look for way out of the possible L.
Infact last season champions league Lewandoski didn't score any important goal for Bayern from the quarter final to final. The definition of stat padder. Bayern are still favorite for the tie.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:36am On Mar 31, 2021
Ibime:
Skimpledawg . .

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:38am On Mar 31, 2021
airmark:
Timbros and Griffon


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-c3TbrpzCc

This wasnt so much great play as it was terrible organisation from the team in orange - just watch their number 11 for example

The guy ran from CM to LB back to CB and eventually ended up watching the goal from a vantage point outside the box. See screenshots

Their number 27 was another one I noticed that ran from supporting striker to left wing to CM and didnt touch ball once.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 11:42am On Mar 31, 2021
Leyqute:


Teams lose players all the time. They just have to make do with what they have. PSG didn’t play Barcelona with Neymar and it’s not as if Bayern doesn’t have enough firepower to win the tie.

Yes but that does not mean if they lose their best player the equation will remain the same.

Many of the Bayern players who were on superhuman levels last season have not reached those heights this season and they appear a little more reliant on him this season.

If you guys look at it from the point of view of PSG it would be disappointing if Neymar and Mbappe fail to beat a Bayern team that is missing it’s only top quality CF.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:53am On Mar 31, 2021
afrodoc:


PSG also has firepower. With Lewandowski out the 2 best players in the tie will be Neymar and Mbappe PLUS a good supporting cast.

Bayern are without arguably the best striker in the world and there is no replacement for him of a similar quality. It would be a choke job if PSG do not go through.

Our replacement striker for Lewandowski is chupo moting otherwise we play a formation we have never played before vs the strongest opponent this season

All betting sites adjusted their Bayern vs PSG odds the moment the news came out yesterday
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 11:57am On Mar 31, 2021
Capaldi:

Infact last season champions league Lewandoski didn't score any important goal for Bayern from the quarter final to final. The definition of stat padder. Bayern are still favorite for the tie.
I will not call him stat padder though but he is not as vital as people seems to paint him.

Bayern are winning because of their very effective footballing pattern and the wonderful team structure not because of having Lewandowski.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:00pm On Mar 31, 2021
OVA200:
I will not call him stat padder though but he is not as vital as people seems to paint him.

Bayern are winning because of their very effective footballing pattern and the wonderful team structure not because of having Lewandowski.

It is hard to overstate how important Lewandowski's absence is for Bayern. Arguably the best player left in European competitions, he has scored 40 of the 100 goals his team have scored in the Bundesliga and Champions League this season. Only one other player has even hit double figures. Hansi Flick's team is designed to get chances for Lewandowski, who will score a hatful of them. Now they need to rethink things.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/robert-lewandowski-to-miss-bayern-munich-paris-saint-germain-champions-league-tie-with-knee-injury/amp/

So you think a player who scored 40% of his teams goal and the next scorer has about 10% is not as vital as people think?

It's like saying Ronaldo was not as important to Real Madrid as people thought

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:04pm On Mar 31, 2021
Leyqute:


Dayo is just aiming for a soft landing should Bayern lose. Lewy is quite important but he hasn’t been doing it alone. Bayern has other important players who have been bailing them out. Gnabry, Coman, Sane, Muller. There’s enough firepower to beat PSG.


According to sports book William hill Bayern's odds of winning the match have moved from -145 to -115, with the odds of a draw increasing from +320 to +300 and the odds of a PSG win going from +330 to +275.


You think betting companies who modified their odds are also looking for soft landing?

A player scoring 40 out of 100 goals is as close to doing it alone as you can get

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 12:14pm On Mar 31, 2021
raumdeuter:


It is hard to overstate how important Lewandowski's absence is for Bayern. Arguably the best player left in European competitions, he has scored 40 of the 100 goals his team have scored in the Bundesliga and Champions League this season. Only one other player has even hit double figures. Hansi Flick's team is designed to get chances for Lewandowski, who will score a hatful of them. Now they need to rethink things.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/robert-lewandowski-to-miss-bayern-munich-paris-saint-germain-champions-league-tie-with-knee-injury/amp/
Egbon i know he is your best player and the arguably the best player in the world and as a matter of fact i was full with joy when I read the news because I want you guys out of the competition but his absent doesn't literally means the tie is over.

Bayern still have the lower odd of the two.
Why didn't the bookmarker flip the odd around if Lewandowski injury means the tie is over.
If it is against City now i would have understand the high tension.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:24pm On Mar 31, 2021
We better go for an established striker like Lukaku instead of a potential like Halaand.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 12:28pm On Mar 31, 2021
raumdeuter:


According to sports book William hill Bayern's odds of winning the match have moved from -145 to -115, with the odds of a draw increasing from +320 to +300 and the odds of a PSG win going from +330 to +275.


You think betting companies who modified their odds are also looking for soft landing?

A player scoring 40 out of 100 goals is as close to doing it alone as you can get

So Bayern have moved from favorites to the tie being even? Cos the odds doesn’t paint Bayern to being an underdog at all. You’re just looking for excuses.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:30pm On Mar 31, 2021
OVA200:
Egbon i know he is your best player and the arguably the best player in the world and as a matter of fact i was full with joy when I read the news because I want you guys out of the competition but his absent doesn't literally means the tie is over.

Bayern still have the lower odd of the two.
Why didn't the book flip the odd around if Lewandowski injury means the tie is over.
If it is against City now i would have understand the high tension.

Don't mind him. Shebi he always shouts Alagolo Boateng was MOTM in WC final. Boateng now has two opportunities to be MOTM again over boat both legs grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:34pm On Mar 31, 2021
nihilistjnr:


This wasnt so much great play as it was terrible organisation from the team in orange - just watch their number 11 for example

The guy ran from CM to LB back to CB and eventually ended up watching the goal from a vantage point outside the box. See screenshots

Their number 27 was another one I noticed that ran from supporting striker to left wing to CM and didnt touch ball once.

Oga nihilist, 'lower your gaze' this is Naija league where scoring well-worked team goals is hard like finding Eruditor. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:35pm On Mar 31, 2021
nihilistjnr:


Don't mind him. Shebi he always shouts Alagolo Boateng was MOTM in WC final. Boateng now has two opportunities to be MOTM again over boat both legs grin

World cup 7yrs ago when Boateng was at his peak

Why is Messi no longer scoring 90 goals per season like he did around 2012

Whatever defence does, someone still has to score and the guy who scored 40% of Bayern goals is out

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:40pm On Mar 31, 2021
OVA200:
Egbon i know he is your best player and the arguably the best player in the world and as a matter of fact i was full with joy when I read the news because I want you guys out of the competition but his absent doesn't literally means the tie is over.

Bayern still have the lower odd of the two.
Why didn't the book flip the odd around if Lewandowski injury means the tie is over.
If it is against City now i would have understand the high tension.

You just said above that a player with 40% of goals scored is not vital as people think yet said he is probably the best player in the world

Since when did the best player in the world become not vital when its not an allstar team

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:47pm On Mar 31, 2021
Ibime:
Skimpledawg . .

According to Daniel Chukwuemeka:

“Better to remain single, bro, than get married to a woman with whom you'll be discussing something important and she'll be telling you that what God cannot do does not exist”

grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 12:52pm On Mar 31, 2021
raumdeuter:


You just said above that a player with 40% of goals scored is not vital as people think yet said he is probably the best player in the world

Since when did the best player in the world become not vital when its not an allstar team
Player can be the best in the world and be over hyped now.
Remember when kaka was the best player in the world and some people begin to claim he is the greatest of all time which is an overestimation of his ability.

This is about overestimating the importance of a player; he is vital for bayern but how vital?

That's what I'm trying to say that he is not as vital as people paint him to (people like you) because his absent is not enough to say the tie against PSG is over that's way too much.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:55pm On Mar 31, 2021
OVA200:
Player can be the best in the world and be over hyped now.

This is about overestimating the importance of a player; he is vital for bayern but how vital?

That's what I'm trying to say that he is not as vital as people paint him to (people like you) because his absent is not enough to say the tie against PSG is over that's way too much.

How vital? Like 40% of goals scored vital. How vital do you think a player who scored 40% of a team goals is?

Our most reliable goalscorer by a huge distance is out

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:56pm On Mar 31, 2021
raumdeuter:


World cup 7yrs ago when Boateng was at his peak

Why is Messi no longer scoring 90 goals per season like he did around 2012

Whatever defence does, someone still has to score and the guy who scored 40% of Bayern goals is out

Since Boathand will not leak goals against Psg then i expect Sane, Gnabry, Muller, Coman to be enough to do the damage upfront

Lewandowski didn't score against Silva in the last final, he won't be missed.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:59pm On Mar 31, 2021
airmark:


Since Boathand will not leak goals against Psg then i expect Sane, Gnabry, Muller, Coman to be enough to do the damage upfront

Lewandowski didn't score against Silva in the last final, he won't be missed.

This is not Thiago Silva that Chelsea got better after he left and he is now doing the job of supporters club from the stands

There is no Silva to be found wanting anymore. If psg had Silva Bayern will have a better chance

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 1:12pm On Mar 31, 2021
raumdeuter:


How vital? Like 40% of goals scored vital. How vital do you think a player who scored 40% of a team goals is?

Our most reliable goalscorer by a huge distance is out
He is very vital but not to the extent of calling bayern a walk over for PSG because of his absent.

You overestimate his importance by saying you are out already.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 1:13pm On Mar 31, 2021
raumdeuter:


You just said above that a player with 40% of goals scored is not vital as people think yet said he is probably the best player in the world

Since when did the best player in the world become not vital when its not an allstar team
But that's exactly what you said about this man

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 1:14pm On Mar 31, 2021
raumdeuter:


World cup 7yrs ago when Boateng was at his peak

Why is Messi no longer scoring 90 goals per season like he did around 2012

Whatever defence does, someone still has to score and the guy who scored 40% of Bayern goals is out

Defence can take it to penalty like in 2012 in Munich
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:17pm On Mar 31, 2021
nihilistjnr:

But that's exactly what you said about this man

I didn't just say it, Morata and Aston Villa proved it to us

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:19pm On Mar 31, 2021
OVA200:
He is very vital but not to the extent of calling bayern a walk over for PSG because of his absent.

You overestimate his importance by saying you are out already.

PSG has a sharp attack and we need to outscore them, losing a 40 goal striker out of 100 is close to a disaster

There is no other player we can lose that will be as important as Lewandoski

Of course its possible to play our under 17 and still win but the odds reduce significantly
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:24pm On Mar 31, 2021
In 2019,Salah was equally as important to Liverpool as lewandoski was to bayern Munich and upon his absent against barcelona in the semi finals,no one called the tie a walk over,so pls stop looking for a soft landing.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:25pm On Mar 31, 2021
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:26pm On Mar 31, 2021
popizaino:
In 2019,Salah was equally as important to Liverpool as lewandoski was to bayern Munich and upon his absent against barcelona in the semi finals,no one called the tie a walk over,so pls stop looking for a soft landing.

Did Salah score 40% of the goals for Liverpool that season?

In 2019 Salah was tied for league top scorer with Mane
Iirc

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