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Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Sammy07: 9:56am On Apr 01, 2021
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Lekan1o1:


"Yoruba wanabe" really Lol ?
Because I chose to be on the side of truth.?
Ogbeni tribalism will not help u wake up and snap it head out of it and u will be a freeman.
I won't let people like you batter the image of oodua nation as being tribalists.
I'm a Yoruba man and I won't follow u in ur tribalistic nonsense believe it or not.

Gooday!!!
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Keep your useless advise for Igbo folks like Asgard13, fahdiga
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Fahdiga(m): 9:58am On Apr 01, 2021
FrLukas:
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Can you present this rubbish in court if I sue you for defamation of character?Someone used my parody account to tarnish my good reputation and you are attributing it to me. those posts are not from me and I reject it.
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Abdul05: 9:58am On Apr 01, 2021
Wamjo96:

These are my observations. Let those with something substantive talk. This is the pettiness I'm lambasting.
Tribalism affects Nigeria the same way it does Uganda so my assertions are not misplaced.
you are lambasting on what,"on tribalism' Abeg wait first,who told you tribalism is affecting we Nigerians?.
cheesy Our problem here is leadership not tribalism.
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by theTranslator: 9:58am On Apr 01, 2021
Lekan1o1:
I'm a Yoruba but I have to say the truth.
The Igbo's have been badly treated since after the war...and deserved to be on their own
They Neva wanted to be part of Nigeria in the first place before the amalgamation.
I love the Igbo's they are good people with conscience, I grew up in the neighborhood where there are more Igbo's reside and I wasn't segregated or mistreated as a Yoruba, infact I have gotten more favors from Igbo's than my fellow Yoruba's reasons I don't join them in their tribal nonsense.

A YORUBA MAN YES , BUT IM A MAN WITH CONSCIENCE ,
Nigeria needs to disintegrate let's go our separate ways
Yeah I think they are treated as badly as I would be if I lived in the east
Its mutual
It just seems one sided because the igbos travel more and they seem not to be very interested in politics(real politics) they prefer the politics of hate and blackmail instead
And you can't use your singular experience to judge
Do you know how many Igbos live in the SW alone
There's hate and they keep coming? Right??
Keep deceiving yourself
If anybody is hated in the SW it is the hausas not Igbos and it obviously has a reason
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by BigSarah(f): 10:00am On Apr 01, 2021
Tribalists hijacked this harmless thread

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Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Fahdiga(m): 10:01am On Apr 01, 2021
Sammy07:


Keep your useless advise for Igbo folks like Asgard13, fahdiga
The guy is right and you are wrong. you need to apologize to him

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Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by theTranslator: 10:02am On Apr 01, 2021
Fahdiga:
Don't mind him. I've never seen a hypocritical tribalist like the guy you quoted. he live and breath tribalism. hardly will he comment without using bigoted words. he is trying to deflect attention from who he is
tell me you're joking
Screenshot my posts
I wanna see the "tribalism"
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by BigSarah(f): 10:02am On Apr 01, 2021
theTranslator:

Yeah I think they are treated as badly as I would be if I lived in the east
Its mutual
It just seems one sided because the igbos travel more and they seem not to be very interested in politics(real politics) they prefer the politics of hate and blackmail instead
And you can't use your singular experience to judge
Do you know how many Igbos live in the SW alone
There's hate and they keep coming? Right??
Keep deceiving yourself
If anybody is hated in the SW it is the hausas not Igbos and it obviously has a reason

Who tolerates ill treatment is it the host or the migrant?

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Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Fahdiga(m): 10:03am On Apr 01, 2021
BigSarah:
Tribalists hijacked this harmless thread
As in eh. I tire for some people o
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Sammy07: 10:03am On Apr 01, 2021
theTranslator:

Yeah I think they are treated as badly as I would be if I lived in the east
Its mutual
It just seems one sided because the igbos travel more and they seem not to be very interested in politics(real politics) they prefer the politics of hate and blackmail instead
And you can't use your singular experience to judge
Do you know how many Igbos live in the SW alone
There's hate and they keep coming? Right??
Keep deceiving yourself
If anybody is hated in the SW it is the hausas not Igbos and it obviously has a reason

The guy you're responding to is an Igbo man living in SW.
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by theTranslator: 10:04am On Apr 01, 2021
BigSarah:


Who tolerates ill treatment is it the host or the migrant?
What do you mean??
I don't seem to understand
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by BigSarah(f): 10:12am On Apr 01, 2021
theTranslator:

What do you mean??
I don't seem to understand

Oks
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Nobody: 10:12am On Apr 01, 2021
Wamjo96:

These are my observations. Let those with something substantive talk. This is the pettiness I'm lambasting.
Tribalism affects Nigeria the same way it does Uganda so my assertions are not misplaced.

You are quite observant and your post is Intelligent. It would make for an even more enjoyable read if you could space your paragraphs.


Let me try and address the issue of tribalism in Nigeria.


You see, Nigeria is a country that was never meant to be. Nigeria is an equivalent of mashing together European countries such as the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Poland, Austria, Spain and Switzerland.


Imagine such a union and them assume that the colonizers of that union when they were leaving told the Germans privately that they were superior to the others and in actual fact were the real owner of that country.


That's exactly what happened in Nigeria.


I understand that we can't keep blaming the British if we want to move forward, but the problem is Nigeria wasn't constructed or designed to "move forward".


There's no way ever that you can remove ethnicity from the Nigerian polity. And the reason is because we are all radically different. Very different. It is almost impossible to overlook such differences especially if it impacts on you negatively. It's just like the racism going on in the US.


I am Yoruba, and of all the ethnicities in Nigeria, I can confidently tell you that the Yorubas are the most liberal. In my opinion, too liberal.


The liberalism is the reason why other ethicists flock to Yorubaland to seek for greener pastures.


They get to Yorubaland, build a home, build a career and feel at home because that's the nature of the Yorubas. They are welcoming.


They sell land, they share their resources unlike some other region that will never ever sell land to you if you aren't from their clan.


In every Yoruba family, you will see same family members of different faiths. Moslems marry Christians and vice versa without any hassle.


That's the Yoruba people for you.


The war you hinted about that we should avoid is already upon us all.


If you follow Nigerian news very well, you'll realize that the Fulanis who are a minority tribe in Nigeria are already waging a war.


So, is it wrong then for me as a YORUBA person to seek safety for myself and my people in self determination?


You say that you've noticed that Igbos are the most vilified in Nigeria.


I urge you to go through most of the politics threads on Nairaland. Then go on YouTube and search for Nnamdi Kanu. Then do a deeper research on what led to the first Nigerian civil war. Hopefully you'll have a better understanding of what's going on.


A lot of Pan Africanists think secession is not good for Africa as a whole, but the truth is that Africa needs stronger countries before we can all come together.


Africa needs an African role model country to show others that it can be done.


Nigeria would have been the natural choice being the most populous black nation in the world, but it has failed woefully.


I am hopeful that with a YORUBA nation, with over 60 million Yorubas worldwide, we may be able to create a country that will be a beacon of light to Africa.


Our secessionist drive isn't borne out of hatred for other ethnic groups but out of a need to survive and protect our people, our culture and our religion.


Our liberalism as a people continues to endanger us.


You'll see posts here of some other ethnic group claiming that our ancestral lands are no-man's-land simply because they were welcomed and given an opportunity to grow and build and flourish, something they won't allow you to do or be in their own region.


Protecting ourselves from these external aggressions is a natural survival mode for any group of people.


Even the whites do it. That's why they place strict restrictions on who and what can entire their land.

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Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Nobody: 10:16am On Apr 01, 2021
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Fahdiga:
Can you present this rubbish in court if I sue you for defamation of character?Someone used my parody account to tarnish my good reputation and you are attributing it to me. those posts are not from me and I reject it.
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GTFOH!
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Lekan1o1: 10:17am On Apr 01, 2021
theTranslator:

Yeah I think they are treated as badly as I would be if I lived in the east
Its mutual
It just seems one sided because the igbos travel more and they seem not to be very interested in politics(real politics) they prefer the politics of hate and blackmail instead
And you can't use your singular experience to judge
Do you know how many Igbos live in the SW alone
There's hate and they keep coming? Right??
Keep deceiving yourself
If anybody is hated in the SW it is the hausas not Igbos and it obviously has a reason


My brother i don't leave in east, but if u take out sentiments and look at how things are u will know that they are mistreated, if u look at appointments in the government u will know.
I really don't know how to be biased in things like this I always let the human in me come into play first.

And about the "politics of hate" u talked about it dont understand it may u need to explain more to me.
Because I know the igbos voted obasonjo(yoruba) as president and voted yaradua(Hausa) as well.
They even supported us during June 12 (the murder of MKO abiola)

I really dont like going into things like this if u check my post I always try to avoid politics becoz of wahala and arguments
Because in as much as I dont want to be tribalistic I also dont want to be against my tribe

Truth is everybody needs to go their separate ways so we can achieve growth
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by theTranslator: 10:37am On Apr 01, 2021
Lekan1o1:



My brother i don't leave in east, but if u take out sentiments and look at how things are u will know that they are mistreated, if u look at appointments in the government u will know.
I really don't know how to be biased in things like this I always let the human in me come into play first.

And about the "politics of hate" u talked about it dont understand it may u need to explain more to me.
Because I know the igbos voted obasonjo(yoruba) as president and voted yaradua(Hausa) as well.
They even supported us during June 12 (the murder of MKO abiola)

I really dont like going into things like this if u check my post I always try to avoid politics becoz of wahala and arguments
Because in as much as I dont want to be tribalistic I also dont want to be against my tribe

Truth is everybody needs to go their separate ways so we can achieve growth

Imagine you don't live in the east yet you're talking like an authority
Where do you live?
This is a summary of the politics of hate they play
They have said that in 2023 they would rather support a northern president than a south western one if they DONT get the presidential ticket
These are people that have been shouting that the north has too much power
That the north is the problem yet they'll gladly support the north because they can't rule
Any reasonable politician can never bank on eastern votes or he is in for a bumpy ride
Check out Atiku
Do you know that assuming they've been having the presidency and other top positions they wouldn't be taking of secession at all
I am talking about our contemporary now
Not decades ago
To explain better
Go to about 5 random places in the east,be obvious of your Yoruba origins and say you wanna buy land
Come back and tell me about their reaction
Yoruba are too liberal
Its affecting us
The SW has the most variable kind of votes
You can't get cult followership here because each individual thinks for himself
People of other religion,ethnic origins live here in harmony

Go and ask about what Igbo Muslims and Northern Christians are facing

As I said
You have to have a level of tribalism in Nigeria to survive
Its a survival of the fittest

Only federalism can save Nigeria
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by theTranslator: 10:39am On Apr 01, 2021
BigSarah:


Oks
yeah
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by theTranslator: 10:42am On Apr 01, 2021
Fahdiga accusing me of tribalism

Wonders never ends
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Lekan1o1: 11:10am On Apr 01, 2021
theTranslator:

Imagine you don't live in the east yet you're talking like an authority
Where do you live?
This is a summary of the politics of hate they play



They have said that in 2023 they would rather support a northern president than a south western one if they DONT get the presidential ticket
These are people that have been shouting that the north has too much power
That the north is the problem yet they'll gladly support the north because they can't rule
Any reasonable politician can never bank on eastern votes or he is in for a bumpy ride.
Check out Atiku
Do you know that assuming they've been having the presidency and other top positions they wouldn't be taking of secession at all
I am talking about our contemporary now
Not decades ago
To explain better
Go to about 5 random places in the east,be obvious of your Yoruba origins and say you wanna buy land
Come back and tell me about their reaction
Yoruba are too liberal
Its affecting us
The SW has the most variable kind of votes
You can't get cult followership here because each individual thinks for himself
People of other religion,ethnic origins live here in harmony
Go and ask about what Igbo Muslims and Northern Christians are facing
As I said
You have to have a level of tribalism in Nigeria to survive
Its a survival of the fittest
Only federalism can save Nigeria


I grew up in festac which is Igbo dominated 80% of my peeps were Igbo I never felt different among them intact they rather speak Yoruba to me to make me feel among we cruised a lot, i also do travel to east with them, part from that they have helped me in many aspect which I can't mention too many experiences
Bro if I begin to say things here it will be as if I'm against my tribe I knew what I went through in hands of a fellow omo oodua when things were hard for me, is was an SE guy who rescued me.
Believe me tinubu is the issue not yoruba.
Me too In not a fan of tinubu and will never vote him if he because I know it won't benefit me anything.
Its not just ibos go to twitter and see a lot of Yorubas are against him.
I really our star boy Osinbajo will come out he will be our best rep , he is smart educated , and intelligent and fit for the seat And I know a lot of Igbo peeps who will vote him.
I have come realise what Igbo's want is true federalism.


Like I said I do visit east and the family of my friend are always happy to see me even I go out with he introduces me as Yoruba,
I even know a big hospital in IMO state its specifically for pregnant women and is owned by Yoruba.
So Yoruba do own lands there .
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by ablejesus26(m): 11:27am On Apr 01, 2021
Sammy07:


You're free to deactivate your account.

Yoruba wannabe

So he is Yoruba wannabe because he chose not to shamelessly join you and your Yoruba vs Igbo gang of ragamuffins to do senseless bigotry

Is this how you are in reality

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Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by ablejesus26(m): 11:38am On Apr 01, 2021
Lekan1o1:



I grew up in festac which is Igbo dominated 80% of my peeps were Igbo I never felt different among them intact they rather speak Yoruba to me to make me feel among we cruised a lot, i also do travel to east with them, part from that they have helped me in many aspect which I can't mention too many experiences
Bro if I begin to say things here it will be as if I'm against my tribe I knew what I went through in hands of a fellow omo oodua when things were hard for me, is was an SE guy who rescued me.
Believe me tinubu is the issue not yoruba.
Me too In not a fan of tinubu and will never vote him if he because I know it won't benefit me anything.
Its not just ibos go to twitter and see a lot of Yorubas are against him.
I really our star boy Osinbajo will come out he will be our best rep , he is smart educated , and intelligent and fit for the seat And I know a lot of Igbo peeps who will vote him.
I have come realise what Igbo's want is true federalism.


Like I said I do visit east and the family of my friend are always happy to see me even I go out with he introduces me as Yoruba,
I even know a big hospital in IMO state its specifically for pregnant women and is owned by Yoruba.
So Yoruba do own lands there .

I am an Igboman too although my Major blessing has always been being Igbo.

I have hustled in All states in SW apart from Kwara. I have never for once seen anything that reeks of hostility btw the two tribes, so the things I read here sometimes really Flabbergast me, and I ask where is all this nonsense coming from.
the last SW state I hustled was at Oyo jabata precisely and I tell you, those niggas don't have time for nonsense everyone just go about with high hustling spirit.

I took one of my friends a Yoruba guy to Owerri to teach him how to run and open a clothing business, up till today dude can't stop thanking me .

Nairaland mods are amongst the biggest problems we have here. They keep allowing crazed up frustrated kids throw insults, tantrums and tribal hate here without finding ways to cub their madness just to get traffic ����

Shun tribal bigotry it's for the unfortunate and unproductive minds.
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by Lekan1o1: 11:49am On Apr 01, 2021
ablejesus26:


I am an Igboman too although my Major blessing has always been being Igbo.

I have hustled in All states in SW apart from Kwara. I have never for once seen anything that reeks of hostility btw the two tribes, so the things I read here sometimes really Flabbergast me, and I ask where is all this nonsense coming from.
the last SW state I hustled was at Oyo jabata precisely and I tell you, those niggas don't have time for nonsense everyone just go about with high hustling spirit.

I took one of my friends a Yoruba guy to Owerri to teach him how to run and open a clothing business, up till today dude can't stop thanking me .

Nairaland mods are amongst the biggest problems we have here. They keep allowing crazed up frustrated kids throw insults, tantrums and tribal hate here without finding ways to cub their madness just to get traffic ����

Shun tribal bigotry it's for the unfortunate and unproductive minds.

God bless u bro, Very apt.
The problem are the mods..
I dont kno why seun keep allowing this hateful comments. I just dont know
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by survivor10(m): 3:27pm On Apr 01, 2021
Tribal bigots deserve to be locked up in prison. They are not fit to exist in a civilised age as now. Go to Europe, USA, they are actively fighting racism. This shows that racism does not belong to this age again, same as tribalism.
Re: Tribalism Has Only Negative Ramifications by PoliteActivist: 6:07pm On Apr 01, 2021
Wamjo96:
That's right.

This same Uganda below?

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