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The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 10:44am On Apr 03, 2021 |
Ps: HO's mean HOUSE OFFICER(S), name you call the lowest ranked doctor in graduate training to become a General practitioner. NARD mean NIGERIAN ASSOCIATION OF RESIDENT DOCTORS, name you call senior doctors in training to become SPECIALIST in a specific field of medicine. Consultants are the most senior doctors, they have undergone the HO's stage and the Residency stage of NARD and are Specialist doctors in their field. So it is no longer news that NARD are currently on strike over their unpaid salaries running 3 months. They gave 60 days notice to the FG but as usual FG allowed the grace period to pass without doing anything tangible. The NARD are clamouring for their unpaid salaries, increase of their hazard allowance from N5000 to 50% of their basic salary, integration of all NARD members to IPPIS, and a few minor ones. Why FG is selfish? FG is selfish because as usual they want to ONLY enjoy the spoils of Nigeria instead of an even distribution of wealth according to occupation across Nigeria. Corruption being a major issue here. Why NARD is unreasonable? NARD'S demands are not UNREASONABLE but to be clear their APPROACH is unreasonable. I list the reasons and suggestions in them about how to fix it. 1. HO's shouldn't be on a strike with NARD, NARD made them join. Some NARD members even claim they are part of them, despite them been on different programs. NARD are paid by IPPIS platform why HO's are paid by the FG directly. NARD even unlawfully deduct HO's salaries, to their displeasure. NARD dragged HO's into the strike cause HO's haven't been paid for 3 months. HO's can easily be paid by the government but when they are eventually, NARD wont allow them resume in the hospitals because their demands MUST BE MET FIRST despite them running different programs. HO's program make them GENERAL PRACTITIONERS while NARD'S program make them SPECIALIST. If NARD are paid first then the strike will be called off today even if HO's have not received their salaries, they will go back to work and tell the HO'S they are NEGOTIATING WITH FG ON THEIR BEHALF BUT THEY WILL BE BACK AT WORK BUT IF HO'S ARE PAID BEFORE THEM THEY WON'T ALLOW THEM RESUME. These has been the routine, so HO's are just been used by NARD. The reason isn't far fetched, LET NIGERIANS FEEL THE STRIKE, that is NARD'S USUAL MOTTO. By that statement they mean let the poor who cannot afford PRIVATE CLINICS THAT NARD'S STILL OWN AND RUN SHOULD DIE LIKE FOULS, THEN WHEN VULNERABLE PEOPLE START DYING, THEN FG CAN RESPOND APPROPRIATELY. WELL PEOPLE HAVE STARTED DYING ALREADY, LET'S SEE HOW MANY WILL DIE BEFORE FG ACTS. 2. While Medicine is a job that REQUIRES pay when due it is also an ESSENTIAL SERVICE. What that mean is that NARD can go on strike for their demands which is justified but the hospitals should still be able to RESPOND ADEQUATELY TO ACCIDENTS AND EMERGENCY CASES ONLY. This can only be possible IF HO's work closely with the CONSULTANTS who both should not be on STRIKE but that is not the case in Nigeria, once NARD STRIKES the whole HOSPITAL PRACTICAL SHUTS DOWN. Although doctors are on ground like the HO'S and consultants, no work will be done and this is terrible for an essential service. The worst part is state hospitals are not been owed but they have STARTED TO JOIN THE TERTIARY HOSPITALS TO STRIKE, IN A FORM OF SOLIDARITY!!!. We have other essential services like the POLICE, MILITARY, FIRE SERVICE, AIRPORT AND SEA PORT WORKERS, PHCN WORKERS etc. JUST IMAGINE IF THIS GUYS OR ANYONE OF THEM GO ON COMPLETE STRIKE ACROSS NIGERIA, THAT WOULD BE A DISASTER!. The arm forces faces more hazard than the average citizen but while they complain, they know that can't ALL abandon their duty post and leave us all in insecurity, that's been REASONABLE TO THE POOR NIGERIANS THAT CANT AFFORD PRIVATE SECURITY. ALL ESSENTIAL WORKERS IN NIGERIA ARE MANAGING INCLUDING NARD, NOTHING IS PERFECT BUT THEY MUST STILL GIVE SKELETAL SERVICES (not by NARD directly in this strike but HO's and Consultants)EVEN IF THEY DECIDE TO STRIKE AND NOT A COMPLETE SHUT DOWN. 3. Poor Nigerians are the ones suffering all this not EVEN FG the villian. 2 wrongs don't make a right. FG is clearly wrong but NARD are matching them for evil toe to toe. If this fight is truly about the SAFETY of Nigeria and the WELFARE of NARD, then NARD should allow HO's back to work WHILE they fight for HO's right and theirs. But if is SOLEY ABOUT MONEY they would continue to DRAG HO's who shouldn't strike in the first place based on their condition of service with the FG, making TERTIARY HOSPITALS USELESS cause consultants won't even lift a muscle. This is the REALITY OF THE ONGOING STRIKE to NIGERIANS, other reports are one sided and biased. Seun dominique 1 Like |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by doggedfighter(f): 10:45am On Apr 03, 2021 |
Well said |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 10:45am On Apr 03, 2021 |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by doggedfighter(f): 10:51am On Apr 03, 2021 |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 10:53am On Apr 03, 2021 |
doggedfighter: Lol, sorry sis. Fear catch me o. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by doggedfighter(f): 10:55am On Apr 03, 2021 |
needanswer: We do sharp sharp things here. ![]() Next time use paragraphs well for easier read. Enjoy your day, dearie. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 10:56am On Apr 03, 2021 |
doggedfighter: You too dear, I will adjust the paragraph now, thanks ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by culf: 11:10am On Apr 03, 2021 |
I'm happy you said NARD demand is not unreasonable. I don't really blame them, most of these bodies believe they have to use everything within their reach to get what they want. That's the approach they all use. Before now I use to say Nigerian should sacrifice so that Government will have money to do other things but the truth is, No need, They will rather launder the money rather than use it for any meaningful project. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 11:14am On Apr 03, 2021 |
culf: Any profession deserves reasonable compensation, so I dont blame NARD for demanding what should be their right, I only condemn their approach. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by DrFunmisticGlow: 1:23pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
needanswer:HOs more than anyone, deserve to join this particular strike. They have not been paid in 3 months and are being told to continue working. Understand the scenario before typing. Usually House officers don't strike, But ever since there was a new policy to centralise housemanship, HOUSE OFFICERS have not been paid. These people, do all the grunt work because they're the juniors, they undergo unreasonable work schedules. I remember being on 96Hr call without sleep during my housejob. Most teaching hospitals don't function well without house officers. Then all of a sudden thier salaries are not paid country wide!! Shame on you. Then that idiot minister had the gall to blunder on national TV that UK and US residents pay for thier program. He's very ignorant. 3 Likes |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 2:22pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
DrFunmisticGlow: I don't personal insult people in my post, I wont start because of you. You said it yourself, they dont go on strike. I said in my post, let NARD strike on HO's behalf, while the HO's take turns at the A/E unit. You dont CLEARLY know what ESSENTIALLY SERVICES ARE, that is why you didnt process my post without bias. Police, army, fire service, phcn etc cannot go on strike the way medics do despite their poor welfare. If they ever attempt to do, they leave room for skeletal services. Ho's and consultants are that vital skeletal services here in accident and emergency department but you what that too like NARD to be taken away from Nigerians. Your logic is spot on!!! |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by DrFunmisticGlow: 2:40pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
needanswer:@bolded makes no sense. SO i don't know what essential services are abi?!LOL Stop enabling abusive behavior from FG. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 2:50pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
DrFunmisticGlow: You clearly don't, cause I already explained it. FG is wrong but NARD'S approach is also wrong. If POLICE VACATES all their post in Nigeria at once, can you image the chaos? Who will control and enforce traffic laws? How will health workers get to work? Or will they be sleeping on the roads? Who will citizens call if there is a break in, in our homes and offices? Are they properly cared for? They buy their uniforms and shoes, live in unhygienic quarters, have poor salaries, have poor guns to fight and protect their lives in gun battles and poorly maintained cars and stations, yet they still understand they are essential services and must keep some man power back if they must strike. Same with the army, if they all run from the north east ,all of them, Bokoharam will be at our doors steps tomorrow, nobody will feel safe going out, not even Health workers. If PHCN does the same, black out indefinitely, imagine the hardship and cost the average Nigerian will incur. Airport workers and port officers go on total strike, all flights in and out cancelled like when the pandemic was recent, imagine how it will put import ( refined crude oil is an example) and exports (raw crude which is out main source of income) and even passenger travel in disarray. Look you dont know what essentially services are, HO's should assist as much as they can with consultants in A/E until government meets NARD'S demands and the HO's. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by aje55393: 3:51pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
:We do sharp sharp things here. Next time use paragraphs well for easier read.Enjoy your day, dearie.You too dear, I will adjust the paragraph now, thanks |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 4:05pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
aje55393: As e dey hot o ![]() ![]() |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by culf: 4:53pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
needanswer: if they don't use that approach, Government won't take them serious. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 5:28pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
culf: So in other words you are justifying their irresponsible approach? Asking that all hospitals be abandoned like the tertiary has been abandoned, when people like HO's should still be on ground? You are justifying STATE owned hospitals for also joining NARD in the strike, meanwhile they are not been owed? At what cost? Is the cost of human life worth it? Sorry it is not justifiable, it is IRRESPONSIBLE. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by culf: 6:24pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
needanswer: I'm more patriotic than you are, I believe so much in Nigeria but truth be told, what you get while in service is what you have so, they should secure themselves. If those in Govt did or are doing the right thing, will NARD take this "IRRESPONSIBLE" action? |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 6:33pm On Apr 03, 2021 |
culf: That first line of yours is IRRESPONSIBLE and UNCALLED FOR! Have you ever met me before? culf: This is you right, from another thread fighting for NIGERIANS, but you turn around here to say they should as well die. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by delana(m): 6:36am On Apr 04, 2021 |
[quote author=needanswer post=100456571] So in other words you are justifying their irresponsible approach? Asking that all hospitals be abandoned like the tertiary has been abandoned, when people like HO's should still be on ground? You are justifying STATE owned hospitals for also joining NARD in the strike, meanwhile they are not been owed? At what cost? Is the cost of human life worth it? Sorry it is not justifiable, it is IRRESPONSIBLE. [/quote ] Firstly I want you to know that a strike is the only measure the Nigerian government will respond to. They were issued letters 60 days prior to the onset of this strike which they never responded to. You see, being a doctor isn't really to become millionaires or swim in money like Dangote but you should be able to live a fairly comfortable life which is almost becoming impossible in this country. You did mention other essential workers , that's a good point but our docility as Nigerians is one of the contributing factors to this multi sector decay , the game is endure without complain which the govt has taken advantage of. As for the house officers of which I was one, it's really a sad development looking at how they are used during the program. Whether in training or not, they deserve their pay and no one should work on an empty belly, they have every reason to down tools as well. The shit Nigeria does to healthcare workers generally, if that were to be the case in other countries, I am sure Buhari won't be in UK now. Treat you r workers well and there will be no strike. Everyone shouts hippocratic oath, will that pay my bills, will that fees my family, life is give and take, I give my best and I deserve my wages . 1 Like |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 8:01am On Apr 04, 2021 |
delana Thank you for your contribution but almost everything you mentioned I already said prior. Everybody has a right to strike as I mentioned and you also stated. And also everybody has a right to be paid as I mentioned and you mentioned. The bone of contention is not about them striking or demanding for their pay and welfare, it is rather that SKELETAL SERVICES should still be available at TERTIARY HOSPITALS in the A/E DEPARTMENT. Health sector is an ESSENTIAL SECTOR, it just cannot shut down completely, just like every other ESSENTIAL SECTOR. STATE OWED hospitals shouldn't be on strike either, they are not been owed, their show of SOLIDARITY by shutting down too is IRRESPONSIBLE, rather they can lend a voice to government on NARD'S BEHALF. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by capitalzero: 8:26am On Apr 04, 2021 |
needanswer: You tried. Have you looked at nard constitution? Hos are part of nard. Through they are not expected to join strike , they cannot cope with job demand. Consultants can only attend to few non-critical patients. In this strike , all doctors must be paid before strike would be called off. They are being owned 4 to 20 months salaries. If you want doctors not to embark on strike, give them status as security agents in term of remuneration and condition of services among others . 1 Like |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by capitalzero: 8:29am On Apr 04, 2021 |
needanswer: Why do state branches of ASUU usually join ASUU strike ? 1 Like |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by capitalzero: 8:30am On Apr 04, 2021 |
needanswer: What should be the approach ? |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 8:38am On Apr 04, 2021 |
capitalzero: At your last sentence, do you really want to be treated like security forces? The police that has poor welfare and salaries, worse than doctors. They buy their own uniforms and shoes, their guns are outdated, they don't even have enough bullet rounds in them. Their stations are mostly in bad shape across Nigeria, their housing quarters is nothing to write home about, their training police college, even many NYSC camps are far better than it. They risk their lives in gun battles with criminals, even before anything like life insurance was introduced by the FG. Do you really want the police treatment? The army is equally in poor shape, money meant for equipment and guns looted by politicians and generals. Been sent to sambisa forest to fight for Nigeria but they aren't properly equipped, some were owed salaries while in battle, they have to struggle for what to eat in that environment, no access to clean water, and they are been killed in their hundreds almost weekly, do you want that kind of hazard or treatment? Nard actually are trying to make HO's part of them, they are not. They want to use welfare as an Avenue to justify HO's been part of them, but they are clearly different. It's simply a game of STRENGTH IN NUMBERS for NARD. If NARD'S demands are met today, I tell you they will resume today whether HO's are paid or not. They will beg HO's to resume work too and that WHILE AT WORK THEY WILL KEEP FIGHTING THEY GET PAID, but if it's the opposite, they wont allow HO's resume. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 8:44am On Apr 04, 2021 |
capitalzero: SUCH SOLIDARITY IS UNLAWFUL PROVIDED STATE ASUU MEMBERS ARE NOT BEEN OWED BY STATE GOVERNMENT, THEIR EMPLOYERS. FEDERAL ASUU MEMBERS CAN STRIKE IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OWES THEM but while teaching is important to every country, it doesnt count as essential services. That is why during lockdown most schools closed globally, until scientist got knowledge on the virus. But power companies, food companies, security agencies, health workers, fire service, online banking etc didnt close down totally but partially |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 8:46am On Apr 04, 2021 |
capitalzero: The bone of contention is not about them striking or demanding for their pay and welfare, it is rather that SKELETAL SERVICES should still be available at TERTIARY HOSPITALS in the A/E DEPARTMENT. Health sector is an ESSENTIAL SECTOR, it just cannot shut down completely, just like every other ESSENTIAL SECTOR. STATE OWED hospitals shouldn't be on strike either, they are not been owed, their show of SOLIDARITY by shutting down too is IRRESPONSIBLE, rather they can lend a voice to government on NARD'S BEHALF. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by delana(m): 10:12am On Apr 04, 2021 |
needanswer: I agree with you that state owned facilities need not show any solidarity except they are being owed as well. As for house officers, no amount of begging should do this time, you can't expect someone who is not being paid to continue work , is it until he/she collapse at work. How can you be happy going to work daily and at the end of the month, nothing to show for it, it has never gotten this bad with house officers. For the other essential workers, I strongly believe everyone is important and you have to fight to get what you want as long as you are in this country. They can't continue to impoverish citizens in the name of essential workers, if the military/police go on strike today in quest for better remuneration, I will gladly support them, if these people are poorly paid as it is, we are just deceiving ourselves cos they will into crime, if you think deeply you will understand that their poor pay is the reason why most are om the road demanding 50 naira from motorists, I am sure that's not the society you want, so why don't they agitate for better living conditions?? |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by needanswer: 10:22am On Apr 04, 2021 |
delana: Agitate but leave room for skeletal services, that is less than 10% of your normal workforce. That's the principle all essential workers adopt except in the healthcare sector. With more than 90% off the workforce, the strike will still be felt as if its was a 100% but that less than 10% will act in cases of critical emergency in essential services. It's important because no one knows how long the strike will last, whether days, weeks or month. This government seems to be on the goal of setting new all time low in governance. |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by capitalzero: 11:31am On Apr 04, 2021 |
needanswer: Level for level, those guys are earning more than doctors. Most soldiers have secondary school certificates. Military budget is more than healthcare budget. Police budget is more than healthcare budget. HOs are part of nard. It is stated clearly in nard constitution. 2 Likes |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by capitalzero: 11:33am On Apr 04, 2021 |
needanswer: Skeletal services are being rendered. 2 Likes |
Re: The Selfishness Of FG And The Unreasonableness Of Doctors Will Kill Nigerians by capitalzero: 11:36am On Apr 04, 2021 |
needanswer: That is flaw of constitution. Labour matter is on exclusive list of constitution. If constitution is amended and labour falls into concurrent list, state workers would not join federal workers on strike. |
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