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Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Aconomist: 3:30pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Leggitsam:Don't compare yourself to the West. Do you think white people would find themselves ruled by illiterate black cattle herders the way you so-called intelligent Igbo and Yoruba are? no. You are ruled by Fulani because you are inferior to them. There is no place in nature where superior people are ruled by inferiors. They rule you because they have a better and more organized culture while you monkeys couldn't organize yourselves to escape a wet paper bag. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Nobody: 3:37pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Aconomist:Point of correction. Who amalgamated us with Fulanis? Who enslaved us for 400 years? Who taught the Fulanis the concept of imperialism? Check your fact. Yorubas and ibos are up there with the best of the whites in all fields of endeavour. 1 Like |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Aconomist: 3:40pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
justtoodark:The world would be a better place, if the majority of blacks were decimated. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Aconomist: 3:48pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Leggitsam:Typical black. You can't take accountability for anything. When have you ever heard whites whining about being enslaved or amalgamated, etc. etc. They don't wail and complain -- they simply fixed their problems. This characteristic puts them in a different league than pitiful Southern Nigerians. Remember, the Americans defeated the British to gain their freedom. You can't even defeat aboki and herdsmen. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by undisputed25(m): 3:55pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
engrchykae:Have learnt more than enough already.. Thanks man |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Thelucifer666(m): 3:58pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Aconomist:Evidence? |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by justtoodark: 4:11pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Aconomist: wat.... go away....!! 1 Like |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by justtoodark: 4:13pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
selemempe: you too,go away.... you ipobians piss me off too much....!! 1 Like |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by kindlyheart: 4:26pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Aconomist:you dished it out to him raw without adulteration. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by selemempe: 4:27pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
justtoodark:we know. That's why we want to go our separate ways |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by passion007: 4:43pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
illmatic101: Before nko, what are they? |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by engrchykae(m): 4:53pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
wiseone28:the igbo have a different mindset,what is shielding us from dealing with our igbo leaders is Abuja influence. You saw how ekweremadu was treated? You see how rochas was treated? You see how north worship buhari? You see how Southwest honor tinubu? We are different 1 Like |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by OriginalZombiE: 4:53pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Africans and blacks in general have a leadership problem. We don't know how to pick our leaders. Democracy became a curse to us because the majority of black Africans are uneducated and emotionally driven. Easily swayed by foolish sentiments like tribal or religious affiliations. The ability to think logically is beyond many Africans, so they pick horrible leaders and thus we are where we are today. Fin. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by LeoThaGreat(m): 5:06pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
engrchykae:Leopard = Àmòtékùn Seriously though, what Igbo people consider bravery (physical fight like "shoot me, I shoot you" doesn't sit well with me. And here's why: YOU ARE FIGHTING THE BATTLE ON YOUR TURF ! It irks me when I read that ESN is fighting with Nigerian police or army in Igboland. USA is currently the strongest country in the world militarily, but she never brings the battle to her doorstep. That is wisdom. USA has "fought" war against Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc, but the "war" never got to their doorstep. The only three wars I remember that got to USA shook them like kids. 1. The Burning of Washington in 1814 by Britain 2. The bombing of Pearl Harbour by the Japanese 3. September 11, 2001 The Leopard, to me, is likely the most intelligent of all wild cats. The mistake Ojukwu made during the civil war, which I don't think an inexperienced person on military strategy like me can make is no doing enough aerial bombing of the enemy turf. I don't want to continue saying much here for a certain reason. Yoruba people say "Ogbón ju agbára lo" (Intelligence is better than strength). The yawning of a tiger is not as a result of cowardice. Even without shooting one bullet, we Yòrùbás will always overcome our enemies. I'm dropping my pen here. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by ObalaEmma: 5:07pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Well if you ask me, i would have said we are just perfectly moving through our evolution. Black is still untamed and hardly uses his intellect unless he is suppressed to do so or challenged. However a typical black is so stressed that he want everything to calm him down. Either way less than 200yrs ago our anscestors lived below Adam age, we barely started wearing our thinking cap less than 200yrs. We would get there, European also pass throug this stage same as Asian. The biggest issue we have now the education we adopted, religion we adopted never had an irrational black man in view couple with Liberalism and neocolonialism stage we found ourself. 1 Like |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by gnykelly(m): 5:28pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
googi: even that western region had a TV station before France. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Idiko1: 5:41pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
undisputed25: The answer to this thread includes you who had harbored the stream of thought shown in the bolded above. Anybody who does not know that no human being is black can never develop. In addition, he or she who refers to nations as black or white has no place or mental capacity in the process of human development. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by cocolacec(m): 6:14pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
mekaboy: When Tinubu invested in Nigeria,we saw what happened to him during the Endsars protest.Envy is our greatest problem as blacks. 1 Like |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by diliekene: 6:22pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
From the bilbical point of view the story of the people thay came together to build the towers reach to the heavens where God cursed them with different language it is because we dont speak one language |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by engrchykae(m): 7:46pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
LeoThaGreat:there comes a time and this is the time you must assert your animal instinct. You know a lot about history therefore I will use history to discuss with you. When the egyptians lost their military prowess,the Hyksos overran Egypt until ahmose came on board and brought in military reforms and in the next battle of kadesh,he expulsed the Hyksos from Egypt. The israelites never made the mistake of losing military aggression till date. The Greeks came to power when they were militant but when the Greeks started debating and philosophizing,the aggressive Romans overthrew the educated Greeks. When the now secured Romans felt easy,rugged and militant barbarians brought Rome down. Yoruba are counting on diplomacy while fulanis are all over the Southwest blackmailing yoruba leaders with political ambitions. THE ONLY REASON NON VIOLENCE HAD WORKED FOR YORUBA SINCE 1967 IS BECAUSE OF THE IGBO. the igbo have shown disdain for Nigeria so it makes sense for fulanis to calm down whenever it has to do with Yoruba their only lifeline to Nigeria. Assuming igbo leaves Nigeria today,will non violence still work for the yoruba? Back to your question about ojukwu fighting in his turf,ojukwu is no fool,he knew the involvement of the western bbc and cnn in the media propaganda against biafra,they were already painting ojukwu as Hitler,if he now invades another region,they will tag him Africa Hitler,when he made the Lagos attempt,the yoruba media mischievously claimed that ojukwu wants to conquer the Yoruba even though banjo was leading the mission. We had to fight on our turf. I heard some YORUBAS ran to Benin republic,so much for non violence. There is a time we call a spade what it is. What yoruba nation is exhibiting is pure cowardice. 1 Like |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by TMKsouth: 8:50pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Kapeter: What do you make of the Royal Bafokeng nation in South Africa? It is considered the wealthiest community in the entire world. I think colonisation and apartheid inhibited their development, as it did to many SA tribes. For example, Shaka Zulu was on a massive expansion project throughout Southern Africa when the whites arrived. So he never got to gain full control of the region's minerals. What could have been had this been allowed to happen? Same thing with the Royal Bafokeng? So let's apply ourselves more when such questions are asked by the OP regarding black development. This negative default position of yours is exact evidence of the success of colonial brainwashing. You've been made to believe you are useless. Even now there are many racist and opportunist global trading factors that disadvantage black nations and also stoke tensions within those same countries in order to hold on to the natural resources, for example, France's destructive role in West Africa. 1 Like
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Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by wingmanIII: 9:07pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
engrchykae: True bro. Biafra would have been it, but world powers came together to suffocate it. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by wingmanIII: 9:12pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
wiseone28: Which Igbo state freely elected their leaders? Reason properly, how can any group or state realize their true potentials with this stupid constitution! That's why people are asking for restructuring, but the parasites will not hear of it. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Rossikki: 9:13pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Princewill1: I knew a satanic beast like you would turn up soon enough with your QUACK, COLONIALIST, DISCREDITED, RACIST NONSENSE. If you are a black person, you are disgrace to your entire generation. If you are a white (since there are many of you here pretending to be Nigerians, to push your racist poison), may you rot in the hottest regions of hell where your father, Satan the devil, resides. How about ''to build wealth in Africa, western and Asian countries need to remove the sky high tariffs they place on African manufactured or processed goods, which is what stops AFRICA from profiting from manufacturing, the real wealth builder today?'' Nah...Much rather spout baseless, discredited racist garbage from your dunderhead. 1 Like |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Rossikki: 9:25pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
undisputed25: Has it ever occurred to your thick skull that most of the ''successful'' nations you worship today acquired their wealth through MASS BRIGANDAGE, MASS MURDER, LOOTING, INVASIONS, ENSLAVEMENT, AND THEFT? Like a typical toddler, who, when asked to bathe himself, only washes his belly, you look at ''successful nations'', including that ones that came in and raped your ancestral mothers, completely ignore their history, and are now here making out that they are somehow 'superior' people. SO IF I COME INTO YOUR HOUSE AND LOOT, STEAL, KILL, DESTROY AND RAPE, AND CART AWAY YOUR RICHES TO BUILD A HUGE MANSION, that makes me ''superior and more intelligent'' than you? Can you people see how the west has led you to reason like beasts? Ok. We should be ''SUCCESSFUL'' like America. Like UK. Like France and Australia. So Who do you suggest we invade, massacre, enslave, colonise, loot theIr land and steal their wealth so we can quintuple Nigeria's national income in one year? I mean THAT would send development sky high, all that money! Our current budget is 35 billion dollars a year. If we invaded, raped and looted say five countries, our budget will reach 300 billion dollars a year. You can't hide that kind of money. Everywhere will be developed within 5 years. So who should we invade and massacre? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by seanwilliam(m): 9:34pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Cc: Olarmybee CSTRR Bigyash What's your take |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by LeoThaGreat(m): 10:34pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
engrchykae:Firstly, until 2015, there has been no democratically elected president in Nigeria since 1957 that isn't an alliance between The North & The Igbos, so I laugh whenever I read comments suggesting Yòrùbás have been governing Nigeria with the Fulanis as if the Igbos aren't the original "One Nigeria" super glue. . Tafawa Balewa & Azikiwe VS Awolowo (1957) . Shehu Shagari & Alex Ekueme VS Awolowo (2 times) . Obasanjo (PDP) VS Olu Falae (AD) (Falae was the consensus candidate in the South West; you can check the election % for that year) . Musa Yar'adua & Jonathan (PDP) VS Nuhu Ribadu & Segun Agbaje (ACN) (2011) Till . Buhari & Osinbajo (APC) VS Jonathan & Sambo (PDP) The Igbos candidate has always won till 2015 BACK TO THE MAIN TOPIC: What you should remember is that we now live in the 21st century. Any aggression not properly calculated will result in further losses because USA, China and Russia now call the shots. And any nation that wants to break away needs to be friend to ALL world powers. Let's assume the Igbos aren't as cowardly as the Yòrùbás, and an aggression like that of 1966 happens again between Igbos and Fulani & friends under the Nigeria brand, do you think the Igbos will win? Let's further assume that the Igbos win the weapon battle, "Nigeria" will win the war at the United Nations. "How?" you may ask, if you remember before Corona outbreak, in January 2020 precisely, China was planning to invade Hong Kong because Hong Kong is claiming independence, they have also been recognised by MOST countries in the world, BUT China claims sovereignty over them, and if the country you're trying to break away from still claims sovereignty over you, according to the United Nations, you are going no where. In the case of Sudan VS South Sudan, Sudan was willing for South Sudan to go. BUT in the cases of: China VS Taiwan China VS Hong Kong Spain VS Catalonia, etc The United Nations clause of sovereignty still stands. Jesus said: If you want to build a house, you first calculate the cost. Calculating the cost is what the Yòrùbás have done till March 2021, now the next step is in motion. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Rossikki: 10:58pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
engrchykae: So, as you are right now, you believe yourself to be subhuman? You believe your father, mum and kids (if you have them) are subhuman? Here's a book I suggest you read, to deprogram yourself, because you are a seriously, tragically lost person. Oh, and by the way, you little, repulsive cretin, military defeat by Arabs or whites, does not mean that one is ''inferior'' any more than my smashing into your house right now and raping your wife, shooting you, and seizing your money and furniture makes me ''superior'' to you. And if Africans (supposedly) engaging in selling 12 million other Africans over a 400 year period amounts to Africans being ''subhuman'', you'll have to explain what Europeans who slaughtered (not sold, slaughtered) over 100 million of themselves in just a 50 year period in the last century's European tribal wars, deceitfully called 'world' wars, should be called. Perhaps ''semi-sub humans''. Dolt. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by samuelpeters(m): 11:27pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
Much have been said here; I have asked myself and others around me. Most times, they end up putting all the blames on the whites. If that is the case, what were our ancestors doing when these whites came and conquered them. Blacks should stop blaming others and face their problems squarely. Greed and incompetence/mediocrity is our problem. When we get it right, other things will fall into place. Whites can never do that for us. We only need to up our game. Asians were seen as nothing but they got their shit together and today, they are respected. It is quite funny when you discover that Nigeria is the most successful black nation on earth. Then imagine other nations. It's not about Africa! Jamaica and Haiti are in the same continent with USA and Canada but look at them. If we don't get our shit together, the whites and asians will continue to exploit us until we are useless even as slaves. ©️2021. |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Nobody: 11:36pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
The old Libya. Nko |
Re: Why Aren't There Any Developed Or Successful Black Nation In The World?k Nation by Rossikki: 11:42pm On Apr 04, 2021 |
samuelpeters: The problem with many of you is that you don't read history and analyse issues. You said, ''What were our ancestors doing when these whites came and conquered them?'' Tell me. How were Africans supposed to know in advance that Europeans would use the gunpowder which the Chinese were using for religious ceremonies, to enter some dark room and build explosives and guns for the sole purpose of going around the world to mass murder people, and loot their resources? That was a world that had used iron weapons like swords, shields, bows and arrows for THOUSANDS of years prior. NOBODY saw it coming anywhere on earth. ALL fell victim to the western gun. So to blame Africans or Indians, or whoever the victim was, for their defeat is ignorant. The ONLY way Africa could have avoided conquest was if African kings had acquired gunpowder mixing skills from the Chinese BEFORE the Europeans did, AND WITH the specific intent to use it to build deadly, mass killing weapons for the purpose of going round the world to loot resources and subdue nations. Africans had no need to do that because theirs was THE land of resources, and there was no shortage. The shortage was in Europe. The desperation and greed for riches was in Europe. So blame the people who introduced mass killing methods out of sheer greed and selfishness, for what became of the world. Don't blame the societies they destroyed, ok? 2 Likes |
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