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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 7:44pm On Apr 06, 2021
EzeNri:

You can't force Yorubaness on them Sir.

TVC is a Yoruba propaganda media.
Just as you must stop forcing Igbonness on NRi people.

NRIs will never accept to be Igbos no matter how hard you Igbos try.


I guess the Awori kings speaking live in the video are TVC staff — in which case they are Yoruba; shebi? grin
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Show me an NRI king who admits that he is Igbo — just as Awori kings admit their Yoruba roots in the video below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88-cG1nC8fM

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by EzeNri(m): 7:45pm On Apr 06, 2021
TAO11:
Just as you must stop forcing Igbonness on NRi people.

NRIs will never accept to be Igbos no matter how hard you Igbos try.


I guess the Awori kings speaking live in the video are TVC staff — in which case they are Yoruba; shebi? grin
Aworis are not Yorubas Sir.

Be guided
Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 7:47pm On Apr 06, 2021
EzeNri:

Aworis are not Yorubas Sir.

Be guided
NRIs are NOT Igbos, be guided.

Stop forcing Igboness on NRIs.

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by Christistruth00: 7:49pm On Apr 06, 2021
EzeNri:

Aworis are Aworis, Sir

We know where Yoruba land starts and ends.

Here are other non Yorubas in SW

Ijebus

Eguns

Ilajes

Egbas

Isale Ekos

As long as you know that Ngwa,Mbaise and Wawa are not Igbos
Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by EzeNri(m): 7:50pm On Apr 06, 2021
TAO11:
NRIs are NOT Igbos be guided.
Stop forcing Ignoness on NRIs.
E pain am.
Are you talking about Nri that founded Ile Ife or nri, as in food in English?
Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by EzeNri(m): 7:51pm On Apr 06, 2021
Christistruth00:

As long as you know that Ngwa,Mbaise and Wawa are not Igbos
They are Yorubas
Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 7:56pm On Apr 06, 2021
EzeNri:
[s]E pain am.
Are you talking about Nri that founded Ile Ife or nri, as in food in English?[/s]
Show me an Eze-NRi who ever succumbed to Igbo pressure and then claimed to be Igbo. None! cheesy

NRIs are not Igbos, stop forcing Igboness down their throats. LMAO!

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by EzeNri(m): 8:01pm On Apr 06, 2021
TAO11:
Show me an Eze-NRi who ever succumbed to Igbo pressure and claimed to be Igbo. None! cheesy

NRIs are not Igbos, stop forcing Igboness down their throats. LMAO!
Ok.

Fact remains that Aworis are not Yorubas. All my Awori friends always fight me anytime I call them omo Yoruba.

Ijebus, Eguns, Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Isale Eko are not Yorubas.

Be guided
Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by samuk: 8:03pm On Apr 06, 2021
seunmsg:


The Oba of Lagos and the Oniru royal family of VI have Benin ancestry.

The Oba of Lagos agrees with you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFYH3GAmBk
Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 8:05pm On Apr 06, 2021
EzeNri:
[s]Ok.

Fact remains that Aworis are not Yorubas. All my Awori friends always fight me anytime I call them omo Yoruba.

Ijebus, Eguns, Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Isale Eko are not Yorubas.

Be guided[/s]
Show me an Eze-NRi who ever succumbed to Igbo pressure and claimed to be Igbo. None! cheesy

NRIs are not Igbos, stop forcing Igboness down their throats. LMAO!
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I have shown you Awori kings saying who they are and who every sane person know they are.

I am waiting for EZE-NRIs to come out and tell us they are IGBOs. It will never happen.

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 8:06pm On Apr 06, 2021
samuk:
The Oba of Lagos agrees with you.
@seunmsg, ask him to prove this and watch me useless him as I effortlessly do always.

But I’m glad you always go by facts though.

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by EzeNri(m): 8:09pm On Apr 06, 2021
TAO11:
Show me an Eze-NRi who ever succumbed to Igbo pressure and claimed to be Igbo. None! cheesy

NRIs are not Igbos, stop forcing Igboness down their throats. LMAO!
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I have shown you Awori kings saying who they are and who every sane person know they are.

I am waiting for EZE-NRIs to come out and tell us they are IGBOs. It will never happen.
Eze NRI is a yoeuba man.

Aworis, Ilejas, Eguns, Egbas, Ijebus, Isale Ekos are not Yorubas.

FACT
Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 8:24pm On Apr 06, 2021
samuk:
The Oba of Lagos agrees with you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFYH3GAmBk
Oh he later attached the same video about which he has been flogged to near-death before.

Now, let the flogging roll in point by point as usual:

(Point 1) Oba Akiolu’s statement says: “... the first oba of Lagos is a male descendant of Oba of Benin ...”

(Point 2) The official recognition of who is the “first oba” always swings — in Lagos accounts — between Ashipa (father) and Ado (son).

Just as a similar recognition (of first Benin oba) always swings — in Benin accounts — between Oranmiyan (father) and Eweka (son).

(Point 3) Lagos accounts are unmistakably clear that Ashipa is an Awori noble (of Ife royal ancestry) from Isheri.

(Point 4) Oba Akiolu’s reference here to the “first Oba” is therefore by necessity in reference to AdoAshipa’s son.

(Point 5) Oba Akiolu’s precise words, viz. “male descendant of Oba of Benin” appears to have been carefully chosen.

He avoided saying “paternal descendant” or “patrilineal descendant” which would have meant something else.

(Point 6) Oba Akiolu’s emphasis is thus clearly on the child-descendant himself (i.e. a male descendant, i.e. a descended son).

(Point 6) Oba Akiolu’s word does NOT relate in any guise to the agent(s) through whom the child was descended — in which case the wording would have been:

Paternal descendant,” or “patrilineal descendant”.

(Point 7) Oba Akiolu’s statement here is therefore in complete agreement with the native accounts of Lagos history.

(Point 8 ) And the traditional account of Lagos history states that:

Ashipa (the progenitor of the Lagos monarchy and father of Ado) is a Yoruba man.

(Point 9) And that Ashipa only gave birth to his son, Ado through a Benin woman. The son was born and raised in his mother’s land — Benin.

(Point 10) Lastly, Oba Akiolu later declared emphatically in this same interview that Lagos does NOT belong to Benin kingdom. See times-stamp 5:44 of the full and untampered video embedded below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno

Cc: seunmsg

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 8:36pm On Apr 06, 2021
EzeNri:
[s]Eze NRI is a yoeuba man.
Aworis, Ilejas, Eguns, Egbas, Ijebus, Isale Ekos are not Yorubas.
FACT[/s]
I personally don’t care if NRIs are indeed IGALAs as many people seem to affirm strongly.

What is known as a “FACT” instead is that, NRIs are NOT Igbos.

So, Igbos must stop forcing them to be what they never claimed to be.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88-cG1nC8fM

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by Sammy07: 8:48pm On Apr 06, 2021
EzeNri:

Aworis are Aworis, Sir

We know where Yoruba land starts and ends.

Here are other non Yorubas in SW

Ijebus

Eguns

Ilajes

Egbas

Isale Ekos

Lol, these guy is on drugs ooo

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by seunmsg(m): 9:14pm On Apr 06, 2021
samuk:


The Oba of Lagos agrees with you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFYH3GAmBk

TAO11 has done justice to this video.

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by samuk: 11:38pm On Apr 06, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFYH3GAmBk

Yoruba are the only ones that believe their own lies and spins. Those that have ears can listen to the Oba of Lagos and hear for themselves. The Oba didn't just say the first Oba of Lagos was a Male descendant of Oba of Benin, he even went on to reproduced a song in Yoruba that says their father is from Benin, this song has to be sang at the installation of any Oba of Lagos to remind them of their Benin root, not done, he told us that all chiefs after installation at their Enuwa must pay homage/salute the Oba of Benin. How else could him have made himself clearer that their recognised father is the Oba of Benin.

On the second coronation anniversary of the Oba of Benin which you can find on YouTube, the Oba of Lagos was the chairman, he told the world that the Oba of Benin is his father. He went on to thank the Benin chiefs that were sent by late Oba Erediawa to train him in tradition and played a vital role during his coronation.

I don't think there are many places outside of Edo state that the Benin Palace still plays the sort of role they play in the coronation of Lagos monarchs.

You heard directly from the Oba himself but still prefer an analysis full of spin and lies.

I provided the video without saying anything, I just wanted the readers to listen for themselves but someone think the listeners are deaf, dumb and lack understanding and he/she saw the need to explain the videos with lies.

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 1:34am On Apr 07, 2021
samuk:
[s]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFYH3GAmBk

Yoruba are the only ones that believe their own lies and spins. Those that have ears can listen to the Oba of Lagos and hear for themselves. The Oba didn't just say the first Oba of Lagos was a Male descendant of Oba of Benin, he even went on to reproduced a song in Yoruba that says their father is from Benin, this song has to be sang at the installation of any Oba of Lagos to remind them of their Benin root, not done, he told us all chiefs after installation at their Enuwa must pay homage/salute the Oba of Benin. How else could him have made himself clearer that their recognised father is the Oba of Benin.

On the second coronation anniversary of the Oba of Benin which you can find on YouTube, the Oba of Lagos was the chairman, he told the world that the Oba of Benin is his father. He went on to thank the Benin chiefs that were sent by late Oba Erediawa to train him in tradition and played a vital role during his coronation.

I don't think there are many places outside of Edo state that the Benin Palace still plays the sort of role they play in the coronation of Lagos monarchs.

You heard directly from the Oba himself but still prefer an analysis full of spin and lies.

I provided the video without saying anything, I just wanted the readers to listen for themselves but someone think the listeners are deaf, dumb and lack understanding and he/she saw the need to explain the videos with lies.[/s]
@samuk the fraud, it is my duty to always disgrace you with facts all over Nairaland.

I will continue spotlighting you for negative fame, until you repent from fraud which I know is impossible.

Yoruba are the only ones that believe their own lies and spins.
I guess you’ve started hating on Oba Akiolu himself since he didn’t say what you wanted him to say.

Those that have ears can listen to the Oba of Lagos and hear for themselves.
Exactly!

They’ve all heard where Oba Akiolu (at timestamp 5:44 of the full, original and untampered video) categorally stated that Lagos does NOT belong to Benin kingdom.

Could this be why you’re now suddenly hating on Oba Akiolu?

The Oba didn't just say the first Oba of Lagos was a Male descendant of Oba of Benin •••
Except that your English illiteracy can not be blamed on Oba Akiolu or on any Yoruba — that is:

“Male descendant” does NOT mean the same thing as “patrilineal descendant,” or “paternal descendant”.

Here is a recommended material for you to brush up you grasp of English.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12939524_c44d089006784ef690806eddb160741b_jpeg_jpeg63c463604194e62db3dfdb5031819f08

•••he even went on to reproduced a song in Yoruba that says their father is from Benin
I would have expected that the traditional song be sang in its “oRiGiNaL” — Benin language. LMAO!

Who translated it to Yoruba? LOL! What do I know? grin

Moreover, the song actually did NOT say that “their father is fRoM Benin” whether literally or otherwise. Nope, fraudulent boy.

Rather, he simply quoted a song which says “our father was given birth to in Benin city, and that his father is a king rather than a commoner”.

This is in no way contrary to the Lagos account which identifies King Ashipa as a Yoruba man; while his son, Ado was born and raised in Benin city by his Benin wife.

•••this song has to be sang at the installation of any Oba of Lagos to remind them of their Benin root, •••
No where did he mention that the purpose of the song is to remind anyone of any alleged Benin roots.

In fact, no where did he mention any reason at all for the song.

If any reason may be inferred from this video (based on the question posed to him by the interviewer), then the only reason is the Benin connection — NOT Benin roots.

A child’s roots is his fathers side, and the roots of Lagos monarchs (patrilineal obviously) is Yorubaland.

The connection with Benin is maternal and political, as per the Lagos accounts; and Oba Akiolu has respected the limits of this account throughout this interview.

••• not done, he told us all chiefs after installation at their Enuwa must pay homage/salute the Oba of Benin
Well he did NOT use the word homage throughout the interview, so I would rather you do not fraudulently use what he didn’t use.

Instead, he used the word “salute,” and that in no guise says that the Benin king is the patrilineal ancestor of Lagos monarchs.

People salute even those unrelated in any way to them.

The salute instead re-enacts the original patron-protegé tie between Ashipa and the then Benin king as well as the maternal link from Ado.

Homage paying on the other hand would have involved a trip to Benin to do that very thing — think of the trip which the Binis admit in their tradition that they used to make to Ife to seek permission to crown a Benin king.

Now that’s homage!

How else could him have made himself clearer that their recognised father is the Oba of Benin.
He could have said something similar to what Binis say in their account vis-a-vis Benin messengers to Ife to seek permission that a Benin king should be enthroned in Benin.

Moreover, if saluting is the criteria for fatherhood — I guess the highest ranking police/military officers are the fathers of all nations then.

On the second coronation anniversary of the Oba of Benin which you can find on YouTube, the Oba of Lagos was the chairman, •••
There is no such video on the internet, you fraud. [emphasis on ellipses].

Oba Akiolu’s statement which you’re trying hard to fraudulently twist here was made at the event in Benin where he was speaking to the effect that he doesn’t tolerate “area boys” even while he is now a king.

He then proceeded to attribute such act of discipline to his [professional] training, while acknowledging his then senior colleagues for the training, namely:

“S. O. U. Igbe” and “Parry Osayande”, each of whom are also, like him, retired Police officers — Retired Police Commissioner and Retired Police DIG respectively.

Your fraud is of astronomical magnitude, you can’t be underrated in the realm of fraud, neither must you be tolerated.

He went on to thank the Benin chiefs that were sent by late Oba Erediawa to train him in tradition and played a vital role during his coronation.
Only God knows what you think when you begin to type lies.

Do you really hope that everyone would be hypnotized, and as such fail to disgrace you?

Anyways, no where in this video or in any video did he mention any Benin Chief allegedly sent to Lagos by Oba Erediauwa.

Also, no Benin Chief was sent from Benin to play any role during his coronation. In fact, Benin played zero role in his coronation.

Stop being a fatuous janus-faced liar for I am still on Nairaland.

I don't think there are many places outside of Edo state that the Benin Palace still plays the sort of role they play in the coronation of Lagos monarchs.
Benin plays zero role in the coronation of Lagos monarchs.

You heard directly from the Oba himself but still prefer an analysis full of spin and lies.

I provided the video without saying anything, I just wanted the readers to listen for themselves but someone think the listeners are deaf, dumb and lack understanding and he/she saw the need to explain the videos with lies.
Well you sound so pained and butt hurt that my clarification and context has in fact evaporated the misunderstandings that you were hoping on as may be gleaned from that video considering the background of the comment you replied to; as well as the background of certain misinformation falsely attributed to Oba Akiolu in some quack print media some years ago.

Pick yourself up from the gutter and wipe your tears. Benin must be contented with its actual territory — the tiny little enclave comprising of Benin city and a few surrounding Edo villages.

I pledge to flog inferiority-complex out of your life. You will be normal again (if you have ever been normal before).

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 1:36am On Apr 07, 2021
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samuk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFYH3GAmBk



(Point 1) Oba Akiolu’s statement says: “... the first oba of Lagos is a male descendant of Oba of Benin ...”

(Point 2) The official recognition of who is the “first oba” always swings — in Lagos accounts — between Ashipa (father) and Ado (son).

Just as a similar recognition (of first Benin oba) always swings — in Benin accounts — between Oranmiyan (father) and Eweka (son).

(Point 3) Lagos accounts are unmistakably clear that Ashipa is an Awori noble (of Ife royal ancestry) from Isheri.

(Point 4) Oba Akiolu’s reference here to the “first Oba” is therefore by necessity in reference to AdoAshipa’s son.

(Point 5) Oba Akiolu’s precise words, viz. “male descendant of the Oba of Benin” appears to have been carefully chosen.

He avoided saying “paternal descendant” or “patrilineal descendant” which would have meant something else.

(Point 6) Oba Akiolu’s emphasis is thus clearly on the child-descendant himself (i.e. a male descendant, i.e. a descended son).

(Point 6) Oba Akiolu’s word does NOT relate in any guise to the agent(s) through whom the child was descended — in which case the wording would have been:

Paternal descendant,” or “patrilineal descendant”.

(Point 7) Oba Akiolu’s statement here is therefore in complete agreement with the native accounts of Lagos history.

(Point 8 ) And the traditional account of Lagos history states that:

Ashipa (the progenitor of the Lagos monarchy and father of Ado) is a Yoruba man.

(Point 9) And that Ashipa only gave birth to his son, Ado through a Benin woman. The son was born and raised in his mother’s land — Benin.

(Point 10) Lastly, Oba Akiolu later declared emphatically in this same interview that Lagos does NOT belong to Benin kingdom. See times-stamp 5:44 of the full and untampered video embedded below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by Nobody: 5:38am On Apr 07, 2021
TAO11:
@samuk the fraud, it is my duty to always disgrace you with facts all over Nairaland.

I will continue spotlighting you for negative fame, until you repent from fraud which I know is impossible.

I guess you’ve started hating on Oba Akiolu himself since he didn’t say what you wanted him to say.

Exactly!

They’ve all heard where Oba Akiolu (at timestamp 5:44 of the full, original and untampered video) categorally stated that Lagos does NOT belong to Benin kingdom.

Could this be why you’re now suddenly hating on Oba Akiolu?

Except that your English illiteracy can not be blamed on Oba Akiolu or on any Yoruba — that is:

“Male descendant” does NOT mean the same thing as “patrilineal descendant,” or “paternal descendant”.

Here is a recommended material for you to brush up you grasp of English.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12939524_c44d089006784ef690806eddb160741b_jpeg_jpeg63c463604194e62db3dfdb5031819f08

I would have expected that the traditional song be sand in its oRiGiNaL — Benin language.

Who translated it to Yoruba? LMAO! What do I know? grin

Moreover, the song actually did NOT say that “their father is fRoM Benin” whether literally or otherwise. Nope, fraudulent boy.

Rather, he simply quoted a song which says “our father was given birth to in Benin city, and that his father is a king rather than a commoner”.

This is in no way contrary to the Lagos account which identifies King Ashipa as a Yoruba man; while his son, Ado was born and raised in Benin city by his Benin wife.

No where did he mention that the purpose of the song is to remind anyone of any alleged Benin roots.

In fact, no where did he mention any reason at all for the song.

If any reason may be inferred from this video (based on the question posed to him by the interviewer), then the only reason is the Benin connection — NOT Benin roots.

A child’s roots is his fathers side, and the roots of Lagos monarchs (patrilineal obviously) is Yorubaland.

The connection with Benin is maternal and political, as per the Lagos accounts; and Oba Akiolu has respected the limits of this account throughout this interview.

Well he did NOT use the word homage throughout the interview, so I would rather you do not fraudulently use what he didn’t use.

Instead, he used the word “salute,” and that in no guise says that the Benin king is the patrilineal ancestor of Lagos monarchs.

People salute even those unrelated in any way to them.

The salute instead re-enacts the original patron-protegé tie between Ashipa and the then Benin king as well as the maternal link from Ado.

Homage paying on the other hand would have involved a trip to Benin to do that very thing — think of the trip which the Binis admit in their tradition that they used to make to Ife to seek permission to crown a Benin king.

Now that’s homage!

He could have said something similar to what Binis say in their account vis-a-vis Benin messengers to Ife to seek permission that a Benin king should be enthroned in Benin.

Moreover, if saluting is the criteria for fatherhood — I guess the highest ranking police/military officers are the fathers of all nations then.

There is no such video on the internet, you fraud.

His statement which you’re trying to fraudulently twist was made at an event in Benin where he was speaking to the effect that he doesn’t tolerate “area boys” even while he is now a king.

He then proceeded to attribute such act of discipline to his [professional] training, while acknowledging his then senior colleagues for the training, namely:

S. O. U. Igbe and Parry Osayande, each of whom are also, like him, retired Police officers — Retired Commissioner and Retired DIG respectively.

Your fraud is of astronomical magnitude, you can’t be underrated in the realm of fraud, neither must you be tolerated.

Only God knows what you think when you begin to type lies.

Do you really hope that everyone would be hypnotized, and as such fail to disgrace you?

Anyways, no where in this video or in any video did he mention any Benin Chief allegedly sent to Lagos by Oba Erediauwa.

Also, no Benin Chief was sent from Benin to play any role during his coronation. In fact, Benin played zero role in his coronation.

Stop being a fatuous janus-faced liar for I am still on Nairaland.

Benin plays zero role in the coronation of Lagos monarchs.

Well you sound so pained and butt hurt that my clarification and context has in fact evaporated the misunderstandings that you were hoping on as may be gleaned from that video considering the background of the comment you replied to; as well as the background of certain misinformation falsely attributed to Oba Akiolu in some quack print media some years ago.

Pick yourself up from the gutter and wipe your tears. Benin must be contented with its actual territory — the tiny little enclave comprising of Benin city and a few surrounding Edo villages.

I pledge to flog inferiority-complex out of your life. You will be normal again (if you have ever been normal before).
Chai! You no dey take prisoners? This is annihilation.

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by samuk: 8:14am On Apr 07, 2021
Those who are deaf and dumb that need your analysis know themselves, not everyone is fooled by your lies, the video is there for all to listen to and make up their minds from what the Oba said.

It's not too much to request that Nairalanders around here hear for themselves without you adding your lie. Let those that have ears and without hearing problems hear for themselves. I don't believe several pages of lies is needed to analyse a simple video of less than a minute.

The Oba spoke in simple English and sang in Yoruba, no need for your regular Coptic and Arabic interpretations of what he said.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFYH3GAmBk

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 11:12am On Apr 07, 2021
STORY, STORY •••

samuk:
[s]Those who are deaf and dumb that need your analysis know themselves, not everyone is fooled by your lies, the video is there for all to listen to and make up their minds from what the Oba said.

It's not too much to request that Nairalanders around here hear for themselves without you adding your lie. Let those that have ears and without hearing problems hear for themselves. I don't believe several pages of lies is needed to analyse a simple video of less than a minute.

The Oba spoke in simple English and sang in Yoruba, no need for your regular Coptic and Arabic interpretations of what he said.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFYH3GAmBk[/s]



(Point 1) Oba Akiolu’s statement says: “... the first oba of Lagos is a male descendant of Oba of Benin ...”

(Point 2) The official recognition of who is the “first oba” always swings — in Lagos accounts — between Ashipa (father) and Ado (son).

Just as a similar recognition (of first Benin oba) always swings — in Benin accounts — between Oranmiyan (father) and Eweka (son).

(Point 3) Lagos accounts are unmistakably clear that Ashipa is an Awori noble (of Ife royal ancestry) from Isheri.

(Point 4) Oba Akiolu’s reference here to the “first Oba” is therefore by necessity in reference to AdoAshipa’s son.

(Point 5) Oba Akiolu’s precise words, viz. “male descendant of the Oba of Benin” appears to have been carefully chosen.

He avoided saying “paternal descendant” or “patrilineal descendant” which would have meant something else.

(Point 6) Oba Akiolu’s emphasis is thus clearly on the child-descendant himself (i.e. a male descendant, i.e. a descended son).

(Point 6) Oba Akiolu’s word does NOT relate in any guise to the agent(s) through whom the child was descended — in which case the wording [if the agent(s) is(are) male(s)] would have been:

Paternal descendant,” or “patrilineal descendant”.

(Point 7) Oba Akiolu’s statement here is therefore in complete agreement with the native accounts of Lagos history.

(Point 8 ) And the traditional account of Lagos history states that:

Ashipa (the progenitor of the Lagos monarchy and father of Ado) is a Yoruba man.

(Point 9) And that Ashipa only gave birth to his son, Ado through a Benin woman. The son was born and raised in his mother’s land — Benin.

(Point 10) Lastly, Oba Akiolu later declared emphatically in this same interview that Lagos does NOT belong to Benin kingdom. See times-stamp 5:44 of the full and untampered video embedded below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 11:15am On Apr 07, 2021
gomojam:
Chai! You no dey take prisoners? This is annihilation.
Don’t mind that dull lad.

He has this false confidence that fraud business is great business. LMAO!

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by davidnazee: 6:01pm On Apr 07, 2021
TAO11:
REPOSTED



(Point 1) Oba Akiolu’s statement says: “... the first oba of Lagos is a male descendant of Oba of Benin ...”

(Point 2) The official recognition of who is the “first oba” always swings — in Lagos accounts — between Ashipa (father) and Ado (son).

Just as a similar recognition (of first Benin oba) always swings — in Benin accounts — between Oranmiyan (father) and Eweka (son).

(Point 3) Lagos accounts are unmistakably clear that Ashipa is an Awori noble (of Ife royal ancestry) from Isheri.

(Point 4) Oba Akiolu’s reference here to the “first Oba” is therefore by necessity in reference to AdoAshipa’s son.

(Point 5) Oba Akiolu’s precise words, viz. “male descendant of the Oba of Benin” appears to have been carefully chosen.

He avoided saying “paternal descendant” or “patrilineal descendant” which would have meant something else.

(Point 6) Oba Akiolu’s emphasis is thus clearly on the child-descendant himself (i.e. a male descendant, i.e. a descended son).

(Point 6) Oba Akiolu’s word does NOT relate in any guise to the agent(s) through whom the child was descended — in which case the wording would have been:

Paternal descendant,” or “patrilineal descendant”.

(Point 7) Oba Akiolu’s statement here is therefore in complete agreement with the native accounts of Lagos history.

(Point 8 ) And the traditional account of Lagos history states that:

Ashipa (the progenitor of the Lagos monarchy and father of Ado) is a Yoruba man.

(Point 9) And that Ashipa only gave birth to his son, Ado through a Benin woman. The son was born and raised in his mother’s land — Benin.

(Point 10) Lastly, Oba Akiolu later declared emphatically in this same interview that Lagos does NOT belong to Benin kingdom. See times-stamp 5:44 of the full and untampered video embedded below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno

The only people buying your lies are yorubas trying to remove shame from their faces.. that's why they are always excited at your stories..
Most Ngerians will still agree Great Benin kingdom founded Lagos.. right now the biafrans are buying it..

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by TAO11(f): 6:09pm On Apr 07, 2021
davidnazee:
[s]The only people buying your lies are yorubas trying to remove shame from their faces.. that's why they are always excited at your stories..[/s]
The people buying history, rather than Benin frauds.

[s]Most Ngerians will still agree Great Benin kingdom founded Lagos.. right now the biafrans are buying it..[/s]
The same “most Nigerians” who voted Jonathan? cheesy The same “most Nigerians” who voted Buhari? grin

And Oba Akiolu said Lagos does not belong to Benin kingdom.

Stop crying!

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by Nobody: 11:01pm On Apr 07, 2021
gomojam:
So do you think they would rather form their country or join another group?
They are too small and too constricted to form their own country especially with an hostile group that’s shown a love for encroaching on others’ lands like the Igbos right at their door step; don’t forget Igbos invading [raping, pillaging, and killing] neutral Edo/Delta was what kickstarted the Nigerian/Biafra Civil war.

In the eventual inevitable demise of Nigeria, Edo and Delta will be with their kin to the West.

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by Nobody: 11:38pm On Apr 07, 2021
MajorLeaguePlay:
They are too small and too constricted to form their own country especially with an hostile group that’s shown a love for encroaching on others’ lands like the Igbos right at their door step; don’t forget Igbos invading [raping, pillaging, and killing] neutral Edo/Delta was what kickstarted the Nigerian/Biafra Civil war.

In the eventual inevitable demise of Nigeria, Edo and Delta will be with their kin to the West.
Hmmmm nice. Are you from Delta too?

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by gregyboy(m): 2:41am On Apr 08, 2021
TAO11:
Lagos island/Victoria island is Awori land.

The first king of Lagos island (Eko) is an Awori from Isheri. His name is Ashipa.

Yes his son Ado was birthed by a Benin mother descended from a Benin oba.


Saying it like you were there when it happened lol,

Hellraiser.... She let hell loose again with her lies bring some canes lets weep lies from her mouth
Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by gregyboy(m): 2:59am On Apr 08, 2021
Maj too constricted to form their own country especially with an hostile group that’s shown a love for encroaching on others’ lands like the Igbos rTheyight at their door step; don’t forget Igbos invading [raping, pillaging, and killing:
neutral Edo/Delta was what kickstarted the Nigerian/Biafra Civil war.

In the eventual inevitable demise of Nigeria, Edo and Delta will be with their kin to the West.


Thanks to the British most of you having mouth to talk against a blue blood edo indegene would have been a slave to every edo people,

Especially the coward yorubas like you...

History would always repeat itself.....


Thanks to the British....
Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by Nobody: 6:23am On Apr 08, 2021
MajorLeaguePlay:
They are too small and too constricted to form their own country especially with an hostile group that’s shown a love for encroaching on others’ lands like the Igbos right at their door step; don’t forget Igbos invading [raping, pillaging, and killing] neutral Edo/Delta was what kickstarted the Nigerian/Biafra Civil war.

In the eventual inevitable demise of Nigeria, Edo and Delta will be with their kin to the West.

There is nothing like Edo / Delta...stop dreaming.

There are three major ethnic groups in Delta.. Igbos, Urhobos and Ijaws others include Itshekiri, Isoko...

Where did u see Edo inside the listing?

Stop land grabbing in your dream...


Edo/binis are offshoot of Yorubas like Itshekiris are.

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by gregyboy(m): 8:37am On Apr 08, 2021
[s][/s]
Osagyefo98:


There is nothing like Edo / Delta...stop dreaming.

There are three major ethnic groups in Delta.. Igbos, Urhobos and Ijaws others include Itshekiri, Isoko...

Where did u see Edo inside the listing?

Stop land grabbing in your dream...


Edo/binis are offshoot of Yorubas
like Itshekiris are.



. You will orever remain mad,


Any statement you make like this and you cant prove, you will be endangering your life for it,


Stipid aboki

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Re: Itsekiri Are Part Of The Greater Oduduwa Family- Ooni by Nobody: 3:39pm On Apr 08, 2021
Let us re-establish facts while the yoruba priest from Ife is on a crusade of lies.

1) Yoruba is a made up tribe consisting of many tribes including one tribe which was called oyo or year.iba or yoruba. That tribe is the remnant of oyo Kingdom whose king is the alafin of oyo and whose main priest is called Oni of IFA.
The other people calling themselves Yoruba are mostly slave descendants, ijebu, some Edo people (eg: Ondo state) who have lost touch with their history or who agree to be tagged Yoruba for political reasons.

2) Warri is a vassal state to the Benin. In other words, Warri is part of Benin and it's people are Edo people.

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