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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 6:19am On Apr 11, 2021
BrabusNG:


XL6 Trillion | Atrium House

We need your input here.

Which will you chose between 1, 2 and 3 as a minimalist looking for style without compromising safety and blowing budget? and why would one over the other?

I plan my builds ahead of schedule so things do happen on site like we are fixing a jigsaw puzzle. So it always seem like we are only talking grin grin and not working. We work smart.

I intend to start working on the sample of chosen design before my ogas next visit to site.

_____

The plan is to use 16” - 20” mild steel square rods to do any of the designs. Security is paramount to my client.

I would personally go for pic 1 for its simplicity and functionality

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 6:20am On Apr 11, 2021
coldcandy:

No amount for shipping+warehousing+transport+profit+etc can make a product price jump from 840 in Alibaba to 10,000 in jumia. This is clear stealing from the ignorant like me. Scam.

I tried making order for same light and was charged 47 USD for shipping

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:38am On Apr 11, 2021
DUNKA:
I would personally go for pic 1 for its simplicity and functionality

Putting functionality over form. Thank you for your input. Well appreciated.

We’d appreciate input from other people too.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 6:50am On Apr 11, 2021
No long story.

An apology, even to one aggrieved person, goes a long way and I say that without taking anything away from all those that suffered losses. I will take that apology as a sign of repentance. The average Nigerian would tell you different but I can assure you that only truly big men and women can say “sorry” and “I forgive.”

Best wishes to knowledge seekers, aspiring and active building owners and all that sell a service here. May your pockets not run dry and may you achieve your heart’s desires. Always remember that it’s HONEST WORK that gets you to the path of wealth AND peace. May we all be prosperous and may goodness and mercy abide with us all.. . . . . amen!

Mmotimo

P.S. I still don’t know how y’all were able to refrain from broke-shaming me wey no get project, come put mouth for una section LOL

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:58am On Apr 11, 2021
MMotimo:
No long story.

An apology, even to one aggrieved person, goes a long way and I say that without taking anything away from all those that suffered losses. I will take that apology as a sign of repentance. The average Nigerian would tell you different but I can assure you that only truly big men and women can say “sorry” and “I forgive.”

Best wishes to knowledge seekers, aspiring and active building owners and all that sell a service here. May your pockets not run dry and may you achieve your heart’s desires. Always remember that it’s HONEST WORK that gets you to the path of wealth AND peace. May we all be prosperous and may goodness and mercy abide with us all.. . . . . amen!

Mmotimo

P.S. I still don’t know how y’all were able to refrain from broke-shaming me wey no get project, come put mouth for una section LOL




ftmom

E su giri giri, e bo mi o
Iwaju l’oloko yi nwa mi lo
Eyin ko l’oloko yi nwa mi lo
MMotimo o, mmotimo ye o
Emi ti mo o.

Thanks for all you do.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:04am On Apr 11, 2021
You don’t want to miss this.

Diasporans, first time homeowners, self-builders - come and learn how to manage your projects. Interesting discussion started here.

Participation is free.

https://www.nairaland.com/6450270/construction-journal-xl6-trillion-atrium/1#100686423

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:09am On Apr 11, 2021
The demands of self-build | The gains and the pains

Join the discussion here https://www.kobocity.com/d/188-construction-lesson-which-build-route/2

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 8:21am On Apr 11, 2021
About our ongoing eatery and residential building we have these.

About the eatery section of the building we have

Ground floor area we have;
-General Area
-Children point
-Mini bakery

Upper floor area we have;
-Executive area
-Royal area
Etc
https://www.nairaland.com/6487704/construction-contemporary-eatery-6-flats/1#100679876
We also need your comments about the setup.

Check pics attached for what we have in
Mind to replicate in each area mentioned above

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 8:48am On Apr 11, 2021
JustCryptos:


How do you handle shipping? Won't the price increase significantly once that is factored in? But then, you can't rule out the fact that sellers inflate prices.
All 10 lights weigh 2 kg.

Let's assume the highest shipping cost per kg is ₦5,500(which is still high compared to what I pay), this gives us ₦11,000.

Cost of 10 lights is ₦8,400
+
Cost of shipping 10 lights to Ajao Estate Lagos is ₦11,000
+
Transportation from my office to pick it up is ₦2000

Total: ₦2000+₦11,000+₦8400= ₦21,400

Let's add profit margin of 50% of cost = ₦17,200

Profit + Cost= selling price
₦17,200 + ₦21,400= ₦38,600

₦38,600/10 items
Each item should be ₦3,860.

Let's just even increase everything, this takes us to ₦5,000 per unit.

At ₦5,000 per unit he's making over 50% as profit.

₦10,000 per item is greed

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 8:49am On Apr 11, 2021
coldcandy:

No amount for shipping+warehousing+transport+profit+etc can make a product price jump from 840 in Alibaba to 10,000 in jumia. This is clear stealing from the ignorant like me. Scam.
All 10 lights weigh 2 kg.

Let's assume the highest shipping cost per kg is ₦5,500(which is still high compared to what I pay), this gives us ₦11,000.

Cost of 10 lights is ₦8,400
+
Cost of shipping 10 lights to Ajao Estate Lagos is ₦11,000
+
Transportation from my office to pick it up is ₦2000

Total: ₦2000+₦11,000+₦8400= ₦21,400

Let's add profit margin of 50% of cost = ₦17,200

Profit + Cost= selling price
₦17,200 + ₦21,400= ₦38,600

₦38,600/10 items
Each item should be ₦3,860.

Let's just even increase everything, this takes us to ₦5,000 per unit.

At ₦5,000 per unit he's making over 50% as profit.

₦10,000 per item is greed

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 8:50am On Apr 11, 2021
Jasobry:



Was it free shipping?
All 10 lights weigh 2 kg.

Let's assume the highest shipping cost per kg is ₦5,500(which is still high compared to what I pay), this gives us ₦11,000.

Cost of 10 lights is ₦8,400
+
Cost of shipping 10 lights to Ajao Estate Lagos is ₦11,000
+
Transportation from my office to pick it up is ₦2000

Total: ₦2000+₦11,000+₦8400= ₦21,400

Let's add profit margin of 50% of cost = ₦17,200

Profit + Cost= selling price
₦17,200 + ₦21,400= ₦38,600

₦38,600/10 items
Each item should be ₦3,860.

Let's just even increase everything, this takes us to ₦5,000 per unit.

At ₦5,000 per unit he's making over 50% as profit.

₦10,000 per item is greed

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 8:51am On Apr 11, 2021
diordaves:


The difference is much but it may not be greed. It may be as a result of cost of sale. The seller is carrying a lot of cost you are not carrying.

From your figures, you got your dollar at N420. We are not sure how much the seller got his/her dollar.

Your price does not include shipping/clearing cost. The seller's sale price will include this.

Your price does not include warehousing cost. The seller will carry this cost.

Your price does not include the cost of sale on Jumai. The seller will carry this cost.

You will not carry logistics/delivery cost but the seller will probably carry some cost.

Your figures don't include overhead cost like internet (broadband) cost, energy cost, rent, staff/apprentice cost, inflation cost, etc. The seller will carry these costs.

And above all, your price does not include profit margin.

My brother, the cost of running a business in Nigeria is very high. The final sale price most times is as a result of the cost of doing business in Nigeria and may not be greed.

All 10 lights weigh 2 kg.

Let's assume the highest shipping cost per kg is ₦5,500(which is still high compared to what I pay), this gives us ₦11,000.

Cost of 10 lights is ₦8,400
+
Cost of shipping 10 lights to Ajao Estate Lagos is ₦11,000
+
Transportation from my office to pick it up is ₦2000

Total: ₦2000+₦11,000+₦8400= ₦21,400

Let's add profit margin of 50% of cost = ₦17,200

Profit + Cost= selling price
₦17,200 + ₦21,400= ₦38,600

₦38,600/10 items
Each item should be ₦3,860.

Let's just even increase everything, this takes us to ₦5,000 per unit.

At ₦5,000 per unit he's making over 50% as profit.

₦10,000 per item is greed

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 9:15am On Apr 11, 2021
davodyguy:

All 10 lights weigh 2 kg.

Let's assume the highest shipping cost per kg is ₦5,500(which is still high compared to what I pay), this gives us ₦11,000.

Cost of 10 lights is ₦8,400
+
Cost of shipping 10 lights to Ajao Estate Lagos is ₦11,000
+
Transportation from my office to pick it up is ₦2000

Total: ₦2000+₦11,000+₦8400= ₦21,400

Let's add profit margin of 50% of cost = ₦17,200

Profit + Cost= selling price
₦17,200 + ₦21,400= ₦38,600

₦38,600/10 items
Each item should be ₦3,860.

Let's just even increase everything, this takes us to ₦5,000 per unit.

At ₦5,000 per unit he's making over 50% as profit.

₦10,000 per item is greed
I tried to order same item but was charged 47 USD

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 9:29am On Apr 11, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


I’m personally never doing it again if I can avoid it.

Please don't. I'm never a fan of flat roof for residential buildings. The same way I'm not a fan of PVC ceilings.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 9:30am On Apr 11, 2021
davodyguy:


All 10 lights weigh 2 kg.

Let's assume the highest shipping cost per kg is ₦5,500(which is still high compared to what I pay), this gives us ₦11,000.

Cost of 10 lights is ₦8,400
+
Cost of shipping 10 lights to Ajao Estate Lagos is ₦11,000
+
Transportation from my office to pick it up is ₦2000

Total: ₦2000+₦11,000+₦8400= ₦21,400

Let's add profit margin of 50% of cost = ₦17,200

Profit + Cost= selling price
₦17,200 + ₦21,400= ₦38,600

₦38,600/10 items
Each item should be ₦3,860.

Let's just even increase everything, this takes us to ₦5,000 per unit.

At ₦5,000 per unit he's making over 50% as profit.

₦10,000 per item is greed

Wahala dey o.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 9:35am On Apr 11, 2021
spyder880:


Here is it Sir.
https://www.nairaland.com/2203264/buy-lands-planned-estate-royal

Good day Sir. I stumbled on your blog when I was trying to make findings on parapet fascia, especially the long term durability of the polystyrene parapet.
So as at 2016, this was what you wrote:
"From a construction standpoint, the parapet made with polystyrene materials are preferred to some other types because of a few reasons...."
Going forward, would you recommend polystyrene over the 2 other types?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 9:45am On Apr 11, 2021
twinskenny:



mostly ebay or aliexpress, you will be able to get some bargain on aliexpress.

Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Naijapal: 9:57am On Apr 11, 2021
Jasobry:

I tried to order same item but was charged 47 USD

Use shipping agents. They charge per kg.

Edit: winners cargo +234 812 746 4726
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 10:02am On Apr 11, 2021
diordaves:


Please don't. I'm never a fan of flat roof for residential buildings. The same way I'm not a fan of PVC ceilings.

Please, I am now worried with the way some of you are against flat roof.

Can you tell me why I should think twice?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Naijapal: 10:03am On Apr 11, 2021
MMotimo:
No long story.

An apology, even to one aggrieved person, goes a long way and I say that without taking anything away from all those that suffered losses. I will take that apology as a sign of repentance. The average Nigerian would tell you different but I can assure you that only truly big men and women can say “sorry” and “I forgive.”

Best wishes to knowledge seekers, aspiring and active building owners and all that sell a service here. May your pockets not run dry and may you achieve your heart’s desires. Always remember that it’s HONEST WORK that gets you to the path of wealth AND peace. May we all be prosperous and may goodness and mercy abide with us all.. . . . . amen!

Mmotimo

P.S. I still don’t know how y’all were able to refrain from broke-shaming me wey no get project, come put mouth for una section LOL



As you sign out, you also need to apologize to myself and https://www.KoboCity.com.

What are you apologizing for?
1) for referring to me as brabus (that's false accusation)
2) for dragging an entity, kobocity into personal disagreement.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 10:15am On Apr 11, 2021
Jasobry:

I tried to order same item but was charged 47 USD
From which source?

We joke with these words:
Anybody that knows the way, knows the book grin

There are various shipping options from China to Nigeria, apart from DHL, UPS etc

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by JustCryptos: 10:18am On Apr 11, 2021
davodyguy:

All 10 lights weigh 2 kg.

Let's assume the highest shipping cost per kg is ₦5,500(which is still high compared to what I pay), this gives us ₦11,000.

Cost of 10 lights is ₦8,400
+
Cost of shipping 10 lights to Ajao Estate Lagos is ₦11,000
+
Transportation from my office to pick it up is ₦2000

Total: ₦2000+₦11,000+₦8400= ₦21,400

Let's add profit margin of 50% of cost = ₦17,200

Profit + Cost= selling price
₦17,200 + ₦21,400= ₦38,600

₦38,600/10 items
Each item should be ₦3,860.

Let's just even increase everything, this takes us to ₦5,000 per unit.

At ₦5,000 per unit he's making over 50% as profit.

₦10,000 per item is greed

Please link me with your shipper.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 10:39am On Apr 11, 2021
Jasobry:

I tried to order same item but was charged 47 USD
Where is your shipping destination?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 11:11am On Apr 11, 2021
davodyguy:

From which source?

We joke with these words:
Anybody that knows the way, knows the book grin

There are various shipping options from China to Nigeria, apart from DHL, UPS etc

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 11:14am On Apr 11, 2021
kopell:
Where is your shipping destination?

Nigeria
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 11:36am On Apr 11, 2021
diordaves:


Please don't. I'm never a fan of flat roof for residential buildings. The same way I'm not a fan of PVC ceilings.
Not advisable at all. Especially in this part of the world. The way heat will be entering the building during the day will be too massive, and when the building discharges it at night, it won't be bearable for the inhabitants.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 11:42am On Apr 11, 2021
Jasobry:



We buy on Ali Express or Alibaba and we instruct them to take to our shipping agents in China.

The shipping agent would then ship to Nigeria.

It's expensive to use known courier service

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 11:47am On Apr 11, 2021
Jasobry:


Here's my second advice.

I can see the total cost is about $69.

If you use Zenith Bank card, you'll be charged ₦420 to Dollar
GTB and First Bank are about same rate

$69x₦420 = ₦29,000+

That comes to about ₦3000 per light.

It's still cheaper than what the person advertised on Jumia for ₦10,000

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rmx: 12:32pm On Apr 11, 2021
davodyguy:

From which source?

We joke with these words:
Anybody that knows the way, knows the book grin

There are various shipping options from China to Nigeria, apart from DHL, UPS etc

This life , once you don’t know , you will pay for it . Knowledge is power

The reason this thread is vital is for that purpose , the reason also some of us come to check ways to improve our build and reduce cost

for my build to be commissioned soon brought in all the Acs from china , same with most electrical fitting

Was given quotes for spot lights etc last month , took about 2 weeks for it to land from Dubai , all at less than half the price

Only bought one generator in Nigeria in the last 20 years and that only as a courtesy to my dads friend that was into generator sales , in that period must have bought close to 15 , some as big as 1375kva , the reason is obvious grin

I don’t begrudge anybody selling at incredible prices , responsibility lies on you to seek alternative , he get where we too dey hammer grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 12:33pm On Apr 11, 2021
davodyguy:

Here's my second advice.

I can see the total cost is about $69.

If you use Zenith Bank card, you'll be charged ₦420 to Dollar
GTB and First Bank are about same rate

$69x₦420 = ₦29,000+

That comes to about ₦3000 per light.

It's still cheaper than what the person advertised on Jumia for ₦10,000
I hope you all understand they are not shipping to you the same quality as the other parts of the world once they know the shipping destination, especially Nigeria. This is due to the failure of our agencies and regulators, it is our people that always request for substandard products to maximize their profit. From experience most of these giant manufactures in china don't even take less than 100 pieces in most of their orders, and if they do they charge you extra fee. Aliexpress are the one that deal with retail and their shipments could take forever, even their prices is not as cheap as Alibaba.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 12:33pm On Apr 11, 2021

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 12:46pm On Apr 11, 2021
kopell:
I hope you all understand they are not shipping to you the same quality as the other parts of the world once they know the shipping destination, especially Nigeria. This is due to the failure of our agencies and regulators, it is our people that always request for substandard products to maximize their profit. From experience most of these giant manufactures in china don't even take less than 100 pieces in most of their orders, and if they do they charge you extra fee. Aliexpress are the one that deal with retail and their shipments could take forever, even their prices is not as cheap as Alibaba.

I don't know why it's so difficult for me to understand shipping in from China.

I won't mind going in with someone or being walked through it.

Thanks.

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