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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by naptu2: 8:05am On Apr 13, 2021
flames01:


You Muslims have given the world nothing but agony, bitterness, murder, hatred and destruction. Everywhere you go, destruction follows you. You paint the pictures of violence, intolerance, evil, especially you Nigerian version of Muslims.

So, it is only natural for people to view your sheiks, imams, Alfas, etc with suspicion.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


"You muslims"

Bigotry at its finest.


He thinks that I have to be a muslim in order to use common sense.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:05am On Apr 13, 2021
Lamasta:
Why is Sheaku 4 abi na 6 always mentioning his name in their videos am just curious to know

Because PANTAMI's NIN policy threatens shekau's ability to operate...plus Pantami has in the past criticsied Boko Haram's ideology as flawed and wrong.
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Esanboy111(m): 8:05am On Apr 13, 2021
grin
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Ihutomi: 8:06am On Apr 13, 2021
Is possible na ,this one he is busy given out traits Abt NIN everyday

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Asgard13: 8:06am On Apr 13, 2021
Trash from a paid agent...

Oya go lament Asgard on your thread.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Alejoas(m): 8:07am On Apr 13, 2021
If this is true then the gutter press should be made to pay for the character assassination. Meanwhile Our external battery for laptop is ready to increase your productivity, guaranteed to power you for between ten to twenty four hours.
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Lamasta(m): 8:07am On Apr 13, 2021
Neutralobserver:


Because PANTAMI's NIN policy threatens shekau's ability to operate...plus Pantami has in the past criticsied Boko Haram's ideology as flawed and wrong.
So Pantami is the only one frustrating their policy that they always mention his name ba

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:07am On Apr 13, 2021
Wilstino:



The news was not that he was a 'wanted terrorist' but places on 'watchlist'.

He may or may not be as retracted... but my point is that they two different things and this link doesn't answer the questions on people's mind.

Pulse contacted the US authorities. They both pointed them to the available lists. Pantami's name is not on the list.

Besides, the guy debated Boko leaders and called their ideology flawed. He isn't on Boko's 'love' list right now. His NIN policy too makes matters difficult for them

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by naptu2: 8:08am On Apr 13, 2021
Wilstino:



The news was not that he was a 'wanted terrorist' but places on 'watchlist'.

He may or may not be as retracted... but my point is that they two different things and this link doesn't answer the questions on people's mind.

Read now.

Provide any kind of evidence that he is on any list. Just one.


BBC, CNN, none of them reported any such thing. The US Embassy and other US agencies say the news is false, yet you and your "may or may not have been retracted" know better than them.

Hm

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by capitalzero: 8:09am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:
This ⬆⬆⬆ is the first article that answered the question that I asked yesterday.





This is not 1985. It was difficult to verify this kind of news item in 1985, but today all these agencies and people are online and verification is much easier. That's why I immediately went to the FBI's list of wanted terrorists when this story broke yesterday. There's no Pantami on the list. See for yourself. https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists


Now, if it was some top secret list that nobody had access to, do you think that Nigerian newspapers would have access to the information?

That's the other thing, how come the story only appeared on Nigerian news sites (most of them copied it from Daily Independent)? How come it's not on the BBC, CNN, etc?

This looks more like some kind of propaganda campaign.

FBI is different from CIA. FBI profiles domestic terrorists while CIA profiles foreign terrorists. We are awaiting for CIA CIA list

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:09am On Apr 13, 2021
KingAzari:
There is no smoke without fire. And how come of all the people in Nigeria including the bandits merchant/contractor, Gumi, it's Pantami that the allegation was made against? Think am.
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:09am On Apr 13, 2021
Lamasta:

So Pantami is the only one frustrating their policy that they always mention his name ba

One thing about Boko...if you openly oppose them they will come for you.Even if you are a devout muslim and pray 20 times a day.

Pantami is not the only Islamic scholar to get threatened. Some other islamic scholars have been killed even. Also, I recall that when SLS was still Emir of Kano and openly called them out, they sent their thugs to attack Kano mosque in retaliation. During friday prayers even.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Goddeywithme: 8:10am On Apr 13, 2021
Wilstino:



The news was not that he was a 'wanted terrorist' but places on 'watchlist'.

He may or may not be as retracted... but my point is that they two different things and this link doesn't answer the questions on people's mind.

Thank you. Oyel dey your head. The Op thinks we are fools and don't know the difference between a shovel and a spade

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by naptu2: 8:10am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:


FBI is different from CIA. FBI profiles domestic terrorists while CIA profiles foreign terrorists. We are awaiting for CIA CIA list

You are waiting for CIA list? But you didn't wait for CIA list before saying that he was on the list.

Can you show me the CIA list that he is on? I've been looking for it since yesterday

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Kingrefreshed: 8:12am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:


https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/is-pantami-on-us-terror-watchlist/ldqtl6x.amp?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=share-button&__twitter_impression=

Una don start! Make una try well well to paint him White.

All we know is he is a part of the sponsor's of Boko Haram.

Convince your Gullible people in the North.

Thunder faya una.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:12am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:


FBI is different from CIA. FBI profiles domestic terrorists while CIA profiles foreign terrorists. We are awaiting for CIA CIA list

FBI also profiles internaitonal terrorists too. Osama was no one on their ten most wanted list when he was alive

Also this is what the report OP put up said

At the CIA and FBI, voices on the other ends of the lines first described the reports as untrue or hasty, before directing us to the publicly available terrorism list on the FBI website which Pulse has painstakingly gone through.

Note that Pulse contacted both the CIA and FBI. And both described the watchlist reports as false...plus CIA won't make its lists publi per se.
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by akeeng: 8:12am On Apr 13, 2021
Op trying so hard to prove a point and defend his terrorist paymaster

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by capitalzero: 8:14am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:


You are waiting for CIA list? But you didn't wait for CIA list before saying that he was on the list.

Can you show me the CIA list that he is on? I've been looking for it since yesterday

You provided the list from FBI and I told you it is domain of cia because pantami is not us resident. Also watch list is different from wanted list. FBI even shows wanted list. No serious Intel will make watchlist public. It is only media that can dig that out.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:14am On Apr 13, 2021
akeeng:
Op trying so hard to prove a point and defend his terrorist paymaster

So Pulse works for terrorists eh?

Recall that the post is not OP's words, it is Pulse words.

So you think that Pulse works for terrorists? I'm surprised.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by GamalNasser: 8:16am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:
This ⬆⬆⬆ is the first article that answered the question that I asked yesterday.





This is not 1985. It was difficult to verify this kind of news item in 1985, but today all these agencies and people are online and verification is much easier. That's why I immediately went to the FBI's list of wanted terrorists when this story broke yesterday. There's no Pantami on the list. See for yourself. https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists


Now, if it was some top secret list that nobody had access to, do you think that Nigerian newspapers would have access to the information?

That's the other thing, how come the story only appeared on Nigerian news sites (most of them copied it from Daily Independent)? How come it's not on the BBC, CNN, etc?

This looks more like some kind of propaganda campaign.

Watchlist is different from wanted list ...

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by naptu2: 8:16am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:


You provided the list from FBI and I told you it is domain of cia because pantami is not us resident. Also watch list is different from wanted list. FBI even shows wanted list. No serious Intel will make watchlist public. It is only media that can dig that out.



Hahahahahahahaha

Still no proof.

So how come the BBC, CNN, etc have not been able to "dig it out", but it's only Daily Independent that "dug it out"?

Did you read the Pulse article? Did you read their calls and messages with the US Embassy, CIA, FBI, etc?

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by capitalzero: 8:17am On Apr 13, 2021
Neutralobserver:


FBI also profiles internaitonal terrorists too. Osama was no one on their ten most wanted list when he was alive

Also this is what the report OP put up said



Note that Pulse contacted both the CIA and FBI. And both described the watchlist reports as false...plus CIA won't make its lists publi per se.

No!! Osama was us resident and committed terrorism in usa soil. Read again. CIA is yet to respond.
Again, watchlist is always secret. It is media that dig it out.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by naptu2: 8:17am On Apr 13, 2021
GamalNasser:


Watchlist is different from wanted list ...


Wonderful! So show me the watchlist from a credible source. I've been looking for it since yesterday. Post it

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:18am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:


You provided the list from FBI and I told you it is domain of cia because pantami is not us resident. Also watch list is different from wanted list. FBI even shows wanted list. No serious Intel will make watchlist public. It is only media that can dig that out.


Well, as the report OP posted said....Pulse contacted the CIA. The CIA said he is not on their list.

Plus,. Pantami spent most of his time showing Boko HARAM how wrong they were from the persepctive of their shared religion. Does that sound like a terrorist to you?

Patami is not a terrorist...unless you can show us the CIA list...proving your point. The Independent report did not link to the proof.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by tuna85: 8:19am On Apr 13, 2021
Antoeni:
May Allah answer every single of our du’a this #Ramadhan  I hope this Ramadan changes us for the better all round. Spiritually, mentally and emotionally. Ya Allah, heal every heart that’s suffering in silence and break us free from everything that’s breaking us. Ameen.

Aameen

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:20am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:


No!! Osama was us resident and committed terrorism in usa soil. Read again. CIA is yet to respond.
Again, watchlist is always secret. It is media that dig it out.

So, can you show us the watchlist?

Because the independent report did not show us the watchlist...and the problem with the report is that in the abscence of the watchlist, they have no way of proving their report is true.

I can create a report and say that your name is on the terror watchlist, and if you ask for proof, I can say that 'watchlist is always secret'..e.ven though I am lying.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by descarado: 8:21am On Apr 13, 2021
flames01:


You Muslims have given the world nothing but agony, bitterness, murder, hatred and destruction. Everywhere you go, destruction follows you. You paint the pictures of violence, intolerance, evil, especially you Nigerian version of Muslims.

So, it is only natural for people to view your sheiks, imams, Alfas, etc with suspicion.

These people will never cease to amaze me.
I am yet to see people from the north do extensive research to defend any southerner but here,we are as usual,digging up post to defend them.
When will any of their learned ones defend people from the south?

Southern Nigeria is to Nigeria what Nigeria is to UK and USA.
No matter how high we climb, we still cower before the north.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by capitalzero: 8:22am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:



Hahahahahahahaha

Still no proof.

So how come the BBC, CNN, etc have not been able to "dig it out", but it's only Daily Independent that "dug it out"?

Did you read the Pulse article? Did you read their calls and messages with the US Embassy, CIA, FBI, etc?

No serious Intel will make watchlist public. It is only media that can dig that out.
Daily independent even goofed for digging it out. Terrorists are security threat to the world. It is not proper for media to reveal identities of those on the watch list.
It is not good for investigation.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by AHCB: 8:22am On Apr 13, 2021
SpeakOutNaija:
Damage control..!!!!

The dishonorable Minister should honorably resign and allow proper and forensic investigation into the allegation.

The US investigative agencies are not slow pocks as their Nigerian counterparts so you don't expect them to disclose classified and sensitive security details to an unknown journalist just for the asking.

CONCLUSION

The writer of the piece is hasty in making conclusions and should be added on the watch list
You're very shallow minded.
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Beremx(f): 8:24am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:



Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


"You muslims"

Bigotry at its finest.


He thinks that I have to be a muslim in order to use common sense.

Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by naptu2: 8:24am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:


No serious Intel will make watchlist public. It is only media that can dig that out.
Daily independent even goofed for digging it out. Terrorists are security threat to the world. It is not proper for media to reveal identities of those on the watch list.
It is not good for investigation.

Hahahahahahaha

You are right. I've seen the watchlist. Capitalzero is on the list because he has ties with ISWAP

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