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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by naptu2: 8:25am On Apr 13, 2021
[quote author=Beremx post=100748726][/quote]

Yes, can I be of help?
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by AHCB: 8:25am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:

You provided the list from FBI and I told you it is domain of cia because pantami is not us resident. Also watch list is different from wanted list. FBI even shows wanted list. No serious Intel will make watchlist public. It is only media that can dig that out.
Then how did that newspaper get info that Pantami is on US watch list since according to you, "no serious Intel will make watch list public".

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by AHCB: 8:27am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:

No serious Intel will make watchlist public. It is only media that can dig that out.
Daily independent even goofed for digging it out. Terrorists are security threat to the world. It is not proper for media to reveal identities of those on the watch list.
It is not good for investigation.
How did the media dig it out when it's not even public? Like they hacked the FBI website or what exactly?

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by AHCB: 8:29am On Apr 13, 2021
Men if I'm Isa Pantami, I will so sue that wretched newspaper for every penny they own. This nonsense is getting too much.

When they talk of social media bill, this same set of human who have brains and can't even use it, will start shouting they want to silence them, as if they've ever said anything meaningful in their entire social media lives.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Beremx(f): 8:29am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:


Yes, can I be of help?
I am just saying hello to you sir. Good morning to you. grin grin
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:30am On Apr 13, 2021
AHCB:
How did the media dig it out when it's not even public? Like they hacked the FBI website or what exactly?

More like they hacked the CIA website... grin

The FBI has a publicly acessible terror watchlist.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by onuman: 8:30am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:


https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/is-pantami-on-us-terror-watchlist/ldqtl6x.amp?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=share-button&__twitter_impression=


The Nexuses:
1) One of the earliest demands of the Chief Justice of Nigeria, an Islamic Sharia justice, Tanko Mohammed, appointed by President Buhari was request for Islamic Sharia criminal laws be inserted in Nigeria’s constitution.


2) In 2001, Muhammadu Buhari said he would not stop until Islamic Sharia criminal laws are used all over Nigeria.

3) Boko Haram says it’s fighting for a country to be governed with Islamic Sharia criminal laws.
4) How come another Islamic cleric Pantami as Buhari’s Information Minister?
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by capitalzero: 8:30am On Apr 13, 2021
AHCB:
Then how did that newspaper get info that Pantami is on US watch list since according to you, "no serious Intel will make watch list public".

Unofficial.
Thousand or perhaps millions of people are on us watch list of security agents for various offences. If you are a friend of anybody linked with terrorism, you would on the watch list to x-ray you properly.
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:32am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:


Unofficial.
Thousand or perhaps millions of people are on us watch list of security agents for various offences. If you are a friend of anybody linked with terrorism, you would on the watch list to x-ray you properly.

So, basically we are all criminals like Pantami

Oga, you have no proof that Pantami is on any terror watchlist. You have failed to provide any proof. Give it up.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by naptu2: 8:32am On Apr 13, 2021
onuman:



The Nexuses:
1) One of the earliest demands of the Chief Justice of Nigeria, an Islamic Sharia justice, Tanko Mohammed, appointed by President Buhari was request for Islamic Sharia criminal laws be inserted in Nigeria’s constitution.


2) In 2001, Muhammadu Buhari said he would not stop until Islamic Sharia criminal laws are used all over Nigeria.

3) How come another Islamic cleric Pantami as Buhari’s Information Minister?

Read, reasearch, comprehend.


Firstly, Pantami is not the information minister. He is the minister of communications. He has a PhD in ICT and he was an ICT lecturer.

Secondly, none of what you posted shows that Pantami is on any terrorist watchlist. Can you show us the watchlist? We have been looking for it since yesterday

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by capitalzero: 8:32am On Apr 13, 2021
AHCB:
How did the media dig it out when it's not even public? Like they hacked the FBI website or what exactly?

Unofficial. Journalists buy information. People are making huge money from information transactions. They also get killed if exposure it is too much.
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by AHCB: 8:33am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:

Unofficial.
Thousand or perhaps millions of people are on us watch list of security agents for various offences. If you are a friend of anybody linked with terrorism, you would on the watch list to x-ray you properly.
I believe what you're talking about is profiling. Some call it 'racial profiling' it is way different from being on the watchlist of any US security agency.

Your 'unofficial' doesn't hold water. That newspaper outlet should be sued by Pantami. No excuse. It's as simple as that.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by naptu2: 8:33am On Apr 13, 2021
Beremx:
I am just saying hello to you sir. Good morning to you. grin grin

Good morning my sister. Have a great day.
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Cleanworld(f): 8:33am On Apr 13, 2021
kponkedenge:
The truth is that Nigerians problem is too much.... Most news that grace the front page here are mostly negative about Nigeria.... And you think foreigners don't come here to see what's happening? Especially how most Nigerians speak bad about their country?

Remember when Dunlop and Micheline left Nigeria for Ghana.... Things weren't even as bad as it is now.... Now twitter has decided to situate its African headquarters in Ghana.... Truth be told, it's a slap on Nigeria.

But you can't really blame them.... Most times we open nairaland, it's about one bad news or the other..... Mostly insecurity.... Nobody wants to do business in fear.

I would have said hope our leaders can learn from this, but truth be told.... They really don't care.

We are just on our own for now.


CARE is an understatement here...i'm still looking for a better words to qualify them.
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by almayda: 8:34am On Apr 13, 2021
A lot of the respondents were disappointed the story was fake news...you guys are the real terrorists.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by AHCB: 8:36am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:

Unofficial. Journalists buy information. People are making huge money from information transactions. They also get killed if exposure it is too much.
Still, your 'unofficial' doesn't hold water. Never forget but I believe you're very ignorant of the fact that information, can be either true or false.

Any newspaper outlet that pays for false information and writes about something that is false should be sued. That's why they investigate every information before releasing it.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by GamalNasser: 8:37am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:



Wonderful! So show me the watchlist from a credible source. I've been looking for it since yesterday. Post it

I dont think any security agency publishes its watchlist , watchlist is not an indictment but it just means you are a person of interest in situation
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:38am On Apr 13, 2021
almayda:
A lot of the respondents were disappointed the story was fake news...you guys are the real terrorists.

To understand why, consider that Nigeria as a nation is based on sharing of jobs and resources. In times like this, a lot of people lose out because they are wrong religion or wrong tribe. These people, whether they be muslim or christian, or whatever the tribe...i mean the losers...immediately blame the opposite side for their predicament...and formulate consipracy theroies to back them up.

That is why many of them believe Pantami is a terrorist, and in times past PDP was sponsoring Boko Haram

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by capitalzero: 8:40am On Apr 13, 2021
AHCB:
Still, your 'unofficial' doesn't hold water. Never forget but I believe you're very ignorant of the fact that information, can be either true or false.

Any newspaper outlet that pays for false information and writes about something that is false should be sued. That's why they investigate every information before releasing it.

Do you know that non-availabilty of evidences do not prove an allegation wrong ?
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by lequama10: 8:40am On Apr 13, 2021
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You Muslims have given the world nothing but agony, bitterness, murder, hatred and destruction. Everywhere you go, destruction follows you. You paint the pictures of violence, intolerance, evil, especially you Nigerian version of Muslims.

So, it is only natural for people to view your sheiks, imams, Alfas, etc with suspicion.[/quotoe] I am a Christian bro, last time I checked the south east in nigeria is full of christians, still not seeing any major difference. Bitterness and hatred is a thing of the heart not base on religion, u poor minded bro...

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:42am On Apr 13, 2021
GamalNasser:


I dont think any security agency publishes its watchlist , watchlist is not an indictment but it just means you are a person of interest in situation

The FBI would like to disagree with you

Also, I could write up a report,. say that you were on a terror watchlist, and them when confronted to prove my allegation, claim that 'the terror watchlist is secret'.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by lequama10: 8:43am On Apr 13, 2021
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To understand why, consider that Nigeria as a nation is based on sharing of jobs and resources. In times like this, a lot of people lose out because they are wrong religion or wrong tribe. These people, whether they be muslim or christian, or whatever the tribe...i mean the losers...immediately blame the opposite side for their predicament...and formulate consipracy theroies to back them up.

That is why many of them believe Pantami is a terrorist, and in times past PDP was sponsoring Boko Haram[/quote
Swears.. my brother nigeria problem majorly is religion and ethnicity, we are all pawns..
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by abes(m): 8:43am On Apr 13, 2021
GamalNasser:


I dont think any security agency publishes its watchlist , watchlist is not an indictment but it just means you are a person of interest in situation

Yeah, only independent paper has exclusive access to the security agency. Carry on, we are listening

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:44am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:


Do you know that non-availabilty of evidences do not prove an allegation wrong ?

Good, so I can allege you are a terrorist, and when you confront me for evidence, I'll just say 'the non-avaialability of evidence do not prove an allegaiton wrong', therefore my allegation must be true.

We are going towards dangeous territory of false witness with these your comments sir.

(Of course you are no terrorist, there is no evidence to prove you are, and saying so is a lie.So, why do you beleive such lies about PANTAMI in abscence of truth?)

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by AHCB: 8:45am On Apr 13, 2021
capitalzero:

Do you know that non-availabilty of evidences do not prove an allegation wrong ?
LMAO!! Men dude you need serious help if you reason like this. JESUS!

An allegation must be proved to be either right or wrong, remember he who alleges, must prove. If you don't have evidence to back up your allegation it makes it wrong!.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by lequama10: 8:45am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:


Read, reasearch, comprehend.


Firstly, Pantami is not the information minister. He is the minister of communications. He has a PhD in ICT and he was an ICT lecturer.

Secondly, none of what you posted shows that Pantami is on any terrorist watchlist. Can you show us the watchlist? We have been looking for it since yesterday
With his name I am not surprised...
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by naptu2: 8:45am On Apr 13, 2021
GamalNasser:


I dont think any security agency publishes its watchlist , watchlist is not an indictment but it just means you are a person of interest in situation

So isn't it magical that only Daily Independent saw this watchlist and posted it? No CNN, BBC, etc. Daily Independent didn't even provide any proof of the existence of this watchlist (they wrote allegedly) and the US Embassy, CIA and FBI have said that he is not on the list.

Isn't that just wonderful and magical?

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Innov8ve1: 8:46am On Apr 13, 2021
Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by fk001(m): 8:46am On Apr 13, 2021
Naptu don't waste your time educating these meat heads. Whether they believe he is on the watchlist or not it won't change Nada.

He is and would still be your minister of communication till 2023, deal with that. No amount of hatred or wailing can make him resign or lose focus on what he is doing.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Nobody: 8:47am On Apr 13, 2021
Lol.OP, you're trying too hard and drawing the amusement of many here who can see beyond the surface. Three topics on Pantami since yesterday, all with the same image laundering modus operandi, shows you are a compromised hack.

An objective man would start one thread, max, on the topic and leave it at that ala say your piece and move on. Your own effort, within 24 hours, to clear Pantami is obsessive, aggressive ( in contrast to your usual behaviour here) and highly personalised.

You remind me of Reuben Abati, a former "Mr.Integrity", who unravelled as another compromised paid hack and mouthpiece for hire who ultimately damaged himself for good attempting image laundering for those who cannot/should not be defended.

In the end all will out eventually . Whether in the coming months or after Pantami leaves with Buhari in 2023. We will know the truth. Three threads on Pantami, saying the same thing, reeks of desperation. Go ahead and start another when this one loses steam since you obviously have a mission to complete. Lol.

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Re: Fact Check: Isa Pantami Is Not On A US Terrorism Watchlist by Valkrie: 8:47am On Apr 13, 2021
naptu2:


https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/is-pantami-on-us-terror-watchlist/ldqtl6x.amp?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=share-button&__twitter_impression=

His he an associate and friend of boko haram founder or not? We already know the guy is a terrorist..all this cosmetic surgery won't work....The cat have already been let out...!!

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