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Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Efewestern: 4:47pm On Apr 05, 2021 |
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/04/breaking-itsekiri-nation-unveils-new-olu-of-warri-designate-announces-passage-of-ikenwoli/amp/ Seems OP is right with his claims. Tsola is now Itsekiri's Olu-elect Cc: mynd44 4 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Olu317(m): 5:15pm On Apr 05, 2021 |
Efewestern:Wow! |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by gregyboy(m): 5:51pm On Apr 05, 2021 |
Olu317: Can you imagine laws are not respected in Nigeria |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Olu317(m): 9:03pm On Apr 05, 2021 |
gregyboy:Your ignorace is beyond redemption . How can you compare Yoruba tradition with your Nigeria or Bini? Obviously , you are full of filth. 3 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by OVB123: 11:08pm On Apr 05, 2021 |
gregyboy:My brother please leave them alone. If they decide that, it is way to go by electing or choosing Emiko, son of an Itsekiri man and Yoruba mother, will bring peace to the Kingdom so be it. The only question I want to ask Ogungbemi is "who enacted that law of 1978? Why was it enacted? Why is now they want to change it?" These are questions becking for answers. 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by JohnSin97: 2:49am On Apr 06, 2021 |
Bini rats can't stop disgracing themselves on this thread.. nonsense 3 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by ijawcitizen(m): 2:20pm On Apr 06, 2021 |
Which Yoruba subgroup has ever claimed to own territories in the "Warri region" before Ijijen of Ijaw maternal royal blood founded Iwere kingdom? |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by samuk: 5:45pm On Apr 06, 2021 |
Ogungbemi01: The Itsekiri themselves, all agree that their monarchy was started by Benin prince and sons of Benin nobility and the dynasty has not changed, so what's your point. I don't see the argument, wherever the mother of the new Olu comes from doesn't change the fact that the Itsekiri throne remains Benin because the father will always be a descendant of Benin. In Nigeria, your ethnicity is based on your father's tribe. What many of you also forget is the young Olu elect has Benin influence and sympathy written all over is ascension. He is an inlaw to a prominent Benin son, captain Hosa, who he also worked for and Captain Hosa is closely connected to the Benin Palace. The current Oba of Benin, as the heir apparent and Edaiken of Uselu was the royal father of the day in the traditional wedding of this Olu elect and daughter of billionaire Captain Hosa. Lastly, that is not to say his position will not be challenge in court because of the existing edict which hasn't be repealed or amended. Whatever happens, Itsekiri throne will continue to remain Benin because it's from father to son and as long as the dynasty from Benin that started the monarchy hasn't changed. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Morenikeji070: 7:21am On Apr 09, 2021 |
Lol shame on you..... what about now.... the young man is crown... olu of warri lolz lolz yoruba are great folks gregyboy: 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Morenikeji070: 7:23am On Apr 09, 2021 |
Lol funny you.. what about now... Oni of Ife and mogaji have supported Tsola who Ifa chose so go suck in the mood yoruba keeps rolling lol lolz gregyboy: 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Morenikeji070: 7:26am On Apr 09, 2021 |
Lol lolz shame they are yoruba and olu have been crowded Oni of Ife supported him. gregyboy: 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Ogungbemi01: 9:32pm On Apr 11, 2021 |
Here are Omadino people still paying homage to their king in Ode Ogun state. 1 Like
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Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Ogungbemi01: 9:45pm On Apr 11, 2021 |
OVB123:The edict or proposed edict as we call it here was horridly gazetted by ON Rewane and few others without consulting Itsekiri people because they have a particular person in mind that they want to make Olu of Warri. They used it to narrow the search to the particular person they had in mind and arrogated so much powers to he Rewane who was the then Ologbosere. We have reviewed the document and discovered that it is self serving and not in the interest of Itsekiri people. We have trashed the edict and that is final. Section 4 of the edict is the singular reason we trashed the edict. It is very insultive to our parent tribe. We are speaking a Yoruboid language and the said Ginuwa is from the lineage of Oramiyan. Ginuwa himself spoke Yoruboid language which shows that he is Yoruba. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by macof(m): 12:33am On Apr 12, 2021 |
samuk: And the same father's lineage goes back to Ife. The itsekiri know this, they knew this before being forced into old bendel state and they still know this today. It is very wicked to try to play itsekiri people to be a minority when they are not a minority like Bini but part of one of the largest groups (Yoruba) in West Africa 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Ogungbemi01: 10:08am On Apr 12, 2021 |
gregyboy:My brother, I am from Ugborodo. We migrated from Ugbo in Ondo state. You will recall that Ugborodo people wanted to install Olaja Orori Benson Omadeli as King of Ugborodo recently. The reason is because Ugborodo people never accepted Ginuwa as their king from beginning and the sentiment is still there. Because we are speaking the same language, we try to cover it any time the issue arise. You can't tell me who I am. I should be the one to tell you who I am. The Olu cannot rule in Isolation. Without the people , there is no kingdom. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by OVB123: 7:22pm On Apr 12, 2021 |
Ogungbemi01:And you think that the best way to do it, is to sit down and according to you, trash the edict, don't you think that before that is done the Ologbotsere ought to be brief before any action(s) can be taken? |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Daum: 6:36am On Apr 13, 2021 |
Ogungbemi01: Stop deceiving yourself Ginuwa did not speak any Yoruba. Your Olu dynasty was started by Benin and ijaw blood. I have no problem with whoever you make your olu. In fact nobody in Benin even claims you guys, I don't know where that idea comes from. We are only saying that the Olu stool is Benin of Origin. That's all. |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Alba3: 7:31am On Apr 13, 2021 |
gregyboy: Young man, your royalty in Bini is of Yoruba ancestry, reason Itsekiris picked Ginua in the first place. The person opposing Prince Tsola also has Yoruba mother. It's very easy for Yorubas and Itsekiris to intermarry. You should be contented with your about 4 LGA in Bini, whose many are also being occupied by Yorubas(who also provide Bini monarchy), Itsekiris(who gave relevance to Bini as kingdom) and Ijaws. Instead of all this cyber noise, you can also travel down to Warri's palace and remove the new Olu as you're a strong-headed igodomigodo boy... 2 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by gregyboy(m): 9:21am On Apr 13, 2021 |
Alba3: Who said bini stool is from Yoruba royalty, dont tell me you belive that political made up false history which started after 1914 to unite edo as Yoruba As a matter of fact no Yoruba monarch historically derived their stool from ife to begin with no to say edo from a different ethnicity, the story of ife deriving the various Yoruba royal stool, started by samuel Johnson in his book "history of youruba" Samuel j, falsely united the yorubas into one ancestry from ife, so as to stop the Yoruba continuous war against themselves and embrace each other as brothers The bini history which has an input of Oduduwa tales is false, and was integrated into benin history to political unite edos as yorubas during the formation of the early country called Nigeria, infact Oduduwa myth belongs to the Yorubas alone and has nothing to do with benin or her history, the benin royal stool is completely of edo origin and should not be mixed up with the petty lies from the political mixup of false unification made from the early formation of the country I know you dont know anything about what i just wrote up there, but visit my profile for more information
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Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Alba3: 10:18am On Apr 13, 2021 |
gregyboy: Meaningless and out of context! I don't know when personal opinion or comments become authority. As a 'senior' Bini revisionist you should have done better... 3 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by gregyboy(m): 1:29pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
Alba3: Personal opinion you say, so from were you read your history, it wasnt a personal opinion of the writer So the screenshot i sent was also my personal opinion Gerrat of here, I least expected any meaningful thing from an unconcerned fellow form ogbomosho If we are to check you are neither from ife or the said benin, but you decided to porknose If you like dont believe the obvious truth i tell, the truth will stand
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Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by gregyboy(m): 1:32pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
Benin and ife had a connection prove it ogbomosho man, prove it am lying and it is my personal opinion Alba3, if you so believe this your ofe benin tales prove it benin and ife had connection before 1900 Or to make it simpler prove the ancestor relationship bet ife and other yorubas |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Alba3: 2:43pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
gregyboy: All I'm telling you is that Bini has no say in who becomes Olu of Warri. An attention seeking Igodomigodo man should not derail this thread. 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by scholes0(m): 3:38pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
I think what itsekiris need is a demographic/population boost from Southern Yorubaland. They are being bullied in their own kingdom by slightly larger neighbours because they are at a demographc disadvantage..... By the way... Ondo and Delta share a direct border... why is there no direct road linking the two states yet? (Hmmn, just checked my map, and the terrain looks impossible).... More Ikales and ilajes need to migrate to Delta and blend in with the Itsekiris. The ijaws are doing it with their creek camps in Edo and Ondo State, the Yorubas should do the same. 5 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by nisai: 4:00pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
Ogungbemi01:Well done. I am from Ogun state. The Itshekiris are our brothers. 2 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by nisai: 4:12pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
Olu317:Lol. Olu, you got him. 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Olu317(m): 4:56pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
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Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by nisai: 5:44pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
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Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by Christistruth00: 6:25pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
macof: Whenever a Person reads the Story of how Itsekiri ended up in Bendel State and the Midwest , together with the 1979 Anti-Yoruba edict it always looks like it was part of a Plot to Punish Awolowo and his Party. There was an Olu of Itsekiri that had a Portuguese mother so why would having a Yoruba Mother disqualify a Prince if here is not something else behind it ? The same thing happened in Old Kwara State that is now Kwara and Kogi States. The Itsekiri are right to insist that the 1979 Edict is unconstitutional and they pointed out that section 42(2) of the constitution further provides that; “no citizen of Nigeria shall be subjected to any disabilities or deprivation merely by reason of the circumstances of his birth.’’ 3 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by samuk: 7:00pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
All I read here are the Yorubas displaying their usual ignorance of history. During the creation of Edo and Delta from old Bendel state, the then olu of Warri tried to lobby the Oba of Benin for Warri to be part of Edo state, one of the emissaries that was sent to Benin is chief Lori Ogbebor, the Itsekiris around here should know who Lori Ogbebor is. According to chief Ogbebor, some Edo people didn't like the idea and lobbied the Oba of Benin against it for reasons that wasn't disclosed. When all the traditional rulers and notable politicians met with then president Babangida, the Oba told the president that Warri should remain in the yet to be created Delta state. The Olu of Warri remains of Benin origin irrespective of where the mother of the new Olu comes from. The Olu elect works for a Benin billionaire, who he married his daughter and the present oba of Benin as heir apparent was the royal father of the day during his traditional marriage in Benin city few years ago. The Olu elect has Benin sympathy written all over his selection. 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris Finally Discard 1979 Edict Insist That They Are Yorubas Not Bini by gregyboy(m): 10:03pm On Apr 13, 2021 |
Alba3: Who b this man from ogbomosho, you think you're in ogbomosho, were you can say whatever u want.... |
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