Kobojunkiee:
By the way, my conviction does not lie only with the synoptic gospels. No, I believe in God and every word out of God's mouth, not just that written of in the synoptic gospels.

As I have made it known before now, the bible is not the word of God but instead a book that contains the Word of God where the Word of God refers to every declaration directly attributed to God Himself(Jesus Christ included). In the same book, you will find written the words of men, demons and even Satan... so, yes, the book is not the Word or Truth of God. Instead Jesus Christ is the Word out of God's mouth, the Truth of God who has been there from the very beginning, even Genesis and onwards.

As for the views of men expressed in every book of the bible, we are provided a law, is found in both the Old and the New Covenants(similar) referred to in some translations as the law of 2 or 3 witnesses. The basics of the law is that by the accounts of 2 or 3 witnesses shall the truth be established.

Every view. In scripture, that is not the Word of God must be subjected to the test recomended by the law of 2 or 3 witnesses.

So every view that is not directly validated by the Word or God(God's word is always True, unless God Himself changes it), cannot be assumed true until it is certified backed by the accounts of 2 or 3 scriptural witnesses. If no witnesses are found, then that view is not a truth.

And I have applied this law to my reading of Biblical and none biblical scripture, and it opens scripture up to one in a different light.

So, I read all scripture but I know that not all that is written in scripture is True and hence not all scripture is the Word of God or holy. Only that which is of God is Holy and only that which comes from the mouth of God is True. The views/opinions of men written in scripture however are not true by default as they must be weighed first against the Word of God, and then considered against the testimonies of other witnesses in the case, that no match is found.

Ok good to know.
In that case, you should agree with the concept of leadership in the church.

James 3. Speaks about the place of Teachers.
Jesus speaks about honoring prophets.
Paul speaks about the 5 fold ministry.

Then you should agree that God made some leaders in the church.

Myer:
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I believe I once told you while I was still a devout Christian, I felt I was led on the path of unification of the body of Christ. On that journey I explored and worshipped in various denominations viz RCCG, Winners, Christ Embassy, Deeper Life, Jehovah's witness, 7th Day Adventist, Latter Day Saints, and several non-popular churches. Though I had my own church where I was a staunch worker. I was able to explore other denominations whenever my job took me travelling.

Bro,

See where your issue started from below

I explored and worshipped in various denominations viz RCCG, Winners, Christ Embassy, Deeper Life, Jehovah's witness, 7th Day Adventist, Latter Day Saints, and several non-popular churches.

You are an explorer, not a serious Christian, i assumed as at then. No serious Christian have this attitude. Have you seen a member of a family exploring other families looking for perfection? What were you looking for? It is a sign of immaturity. Remember Paul (Ephe 4:13 --Toss to and Fro...).

Your exploration is what brought you to this point you are. Such attitude could only birth confusion, instability, disloyal and rebellion.
So, even after going all around the world, you still yet to find what you are looking for? It doesnt exist Sir. A big sign of immaturity is instability. You are just roaming about Sir.


My advise for you

1. Find a church, it doesnt have to be perfect, there is non as church. But find a church, that you trust and you are convinced about their mission.
We arent looking for a perfect church, you yourself arent perfect and the churches are filled with people like you: imperfect people, to be perfected by the body.

2. Learn to be loyal, stable, committed there. Dont go around them looking for error. There are many error in our natural family but we dont neglect them to go and join another family. We stay with them. Come rain, come sun. To grow together, and serve God in true heart. Stay, grow, learn, put away what you think you know, they are spare parts picked from different instability and prideful exploration.

3. If you know you are so knowledgeable to know that MOST churched are imperfect and peradventure you cant see anyone that fits your. Why not start teaching this your doctrine around, and let us see the perfect fruits you will bear. The perfect doctrine, perfect people, perfect environment. It is easy to criticize when you have nothing at hand. No one which busy with ministry, go around criticizing MOST churches. So, get to ministry and raise the perfect people as you are perfect.

I hope i am clear?

Myer:
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On the bolded, are you reading the same Bible cos from the inception, God's prophets have been known to be against instituted authorities.

Moses against Pharaoh.
Daniel and the 3 Hebrew brothers against the Babylonian authorities.
Mordecai against Haman.
John the baptist against Herod.
Jesus against Jewish authorities.

Secondly, I am not sure you have taken my advise of always reading your Bible well.

See all you put above there comparing to the church of Jesus. Human government.
Are you sure there is no issue anywhere? Just running everytime to prove a point from the bible. Imagine your list? Very dishonest.

- Moses against Pharaoh. You lied: Moses had his church (the Isrealite), God's institution
- Daniel and the 3 Hebrew brothers against the Babylonian authorities. You lied: Daniel had the Jews, not evident because it was a time of persecution of the Jews
- Mordecai against Haman. You lied: Mordecai had same, He reminded Esther of the group, institution she belonged. God's institution
- John the baptist against Herod. You lied: John had disciples that gather with him. He has his people, his church. God's institution
- Jesus against Jewish authorities. You lied: Jesus had same, his church, his disciples, his members. God's institution

Why always dishonest in order to prove a point, Or i should assume you are ignorant to have compared the church and God's institution to human empires and government.

Please Bro, stop embarrassing bible explanation here.

Rebellion is as witchcraft, you end up doing things irrational. The signs are already showing here Sir.

Kobojunkiee:
You are still rambling... I clearly asked you to questions, and not a single one of them have you responded directly to. Pay attention already....
Provide me with specifics, not ramblings, that I can respond to

Bro, there is no need for any specifics. I have asked you same questions for over 3-4 weeks in different threads. I havent responded to any any other issues on your post than the same thing. And you know exactly what it is. If you cant answer here. When you raise it again anywhere i will point it out again.

No need trying to do as if you dont know where you are pursuing a purpose against Christ will.

Myer:

Ok good to know.
In that case, you should agree with the concept of leadership in the church.

James 3. Speaks about the place of Teachers.
Jesus speaks about honoring prophets.
Paul speaks about the 5 fold ministry.

Then you should agree that God made some leaders in the church.

Remember what I said about God's Word is Law and God's Word being true and that no man can counter God's Word except God Himself? Also recall here that, Jesus Christ is the embodiment of the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God meaning His Word is Law.

So, We know that Jesus Christ, the Law, declared that it is a sin to set oneself up as a teacher over the others in His flock - this in agreement with God's decree through His prophets that He alone is Teacher over those in His flock. It then follows that anyone, including Paul and James, who does so, commits sin against God. In addition, anyone who teaches that it is ok to set oneself up as a teacher over God's flock also commits sin since that act is against the commandment which stipulates that we desist from teaching the doctrines and traditions of men.

Now as for "honoring" of Prophets, I don't see how that in any way means "prophets" are to set themselves up as teachers over self. So, you would need to explain that a bit more so I see what you see. Speaking of Prophets, did you know that in the New Covenant, the Kingdom of God, every born-again follower of Jesus Christ is a defacto prophet because God's Spirit lives inside of such, and He not only leads them but also speaks through such. So how would it work out if every born-again sets himself up as teachers over the other born-agains in the same flock?

Another example for you to consider is this. In their respective letters, Paul and John are said to have called themselves fathers over some in His Jesus Christ's flock. But we know that Jesus declared it a sin for anyone to call another man father or declare oneself father over those in His Kingdom. What this means is Paul and John are wrong by what they have done in their letters and anyone who indeed calls them "fathers" commits sin against God.
For an example of how God changes His Law, go to and read Ezekiel 18 from chapter 1. He swears by His Name and then goes into lengthy detail on what it is He is changing and how. He doesn't simply have men throw their opinions in the bucket to overwrite what He has declared.

God never made leaders for your churches which He never included in His Kingdom, to begin with. Your churches have no place in His Kingdom, as they were never part of His design for His New Covenant Law. Also, your churches are built of, and atop doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ made clear were lies as far as the Truth of God is concerned. So, stop assuming them to be of God when they are not of Him.

hoopernikao:



Bro,

See where your issue started from below



You are an explorer, not a serious Christian, i assumed as at then. No serious Christian have this attitude. Have you seen a member of a family exploring other families looking for perfection? What were you looking for? It is a sign of immaturity. Remember Paul (Ephe 4:13 --Toss to and Fro...).

Your exploration is what brought you to this point you are. Such attitude could only birth confusion, instability, disloyal and rebellion.
So, even after going all around the world, you still yet to find what you are looking for? It doesnt exist Sir. A big sign of immaturity is instability. You are just roaming about Sir.


My advise for you

1. Find a church, it doesnt have to be perfect, there is non as church. But find a church, that you trust and you are convinced about their mission.
We arent looking for a perfect church, you yourself arent perfect and the churches are filled with people like you: imperfect people, to be perfected by the body.

2. Learn to be loyal, stable, committed there. Dont go around them looking for error. There are many error in our natural family but we dont neglect them to go and join another family. We stay with them. Come rain, come sun. To grow together, and serve God in true heart. Stay, grow, learn, put away what you think you know, they are spare parts picked from different instability and prideful exploration.

3. If you know you are so knowledgeable to know that MOST churched are imperfect and peradventure you cant see anyone that fits your. Why not start teaching this your doctrine around, and let us see the perfect fruits you will bear. The perfect doctrine, perfect people, perfect environment. It is easy to criticize when you have nothing at hand. No one which busy with ministry, go around criticizing MOST churches. So, get to ministry and raise the perfect people as you are perfect.

I hope i am clear?

The challenge I've always had with you as always is that you have such abundance of head knowledge but no revelations.

I've told you several times that until you realise that biblically God's path for Peter was different from his path for Paul. Meaning unless you have a divine revelation concerning a person or situation, you'll be so far amiss in your understanding and judgment of that situation.

1. Now concerning finding a church- It's either you just intentionally want to prove a pointless point or you missed the part where I mentioned that i was a staunch member and worker of a local assembly.
And no, I wasn't looking for a perfect church.

2. If loyalty could be measured, certainly I was highly loyal. I'm sure I was even more loyal than you could ever be. I not only saw my local assembly as somewhere I was divinely led to be worshipping. Evangelise Christ was primary, but I also evangelised the church when necessary. I practically made all my social media accounts platforms for Evangelism.

3. Here's where your head knowledge is exposed once again. Starting to teach doctrines or starting a fellowship is not something you do because you feel like, but because you're led by the Holyspirit and it is confirmed by leaders too.

Apparently you don't see the importance of the Holyspirit in your walk as a Christian. Which is why you keep getting it all wrong. You forget that you can be ever learning scriptures without ever coming to knowledge like the Pharisees.

That said, I'm not perfect but Jesus and the Apostles did teach that we are to be perfect like God is.

While I'm not perfect, neither placing anyone on the pedestal of perfection. It is important to know that what makes a Christian perfect is the assurance of the Holyspirit. When you do have the Holyspirit and he leads you, guides you, helping you both bear his fruit and manifest his gifts, then you are already perfect, not by your works but by his seal.

Kobojunkiee:
Remember what I said about God's Word is Law and God's Word being true and that no man can counter God's Word except God Himself? Also recall here that, Jesus Christ is the embodiment of the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God meaning His Word is Law.

So, We know that Jesus Christ, the Law, declared that it is a sin to set oneself up as a teacher over the others in His flock - this in agreement with God's decree through His prophets that He alone is Teacher over those in His flock. It then follows that anyone, including Paul and James, who does so, commits sin against God. In addition, anyone who teaches that it is ok to set oneself up as a teacher over God's flock also commits sin since that act is against the commandment which stipulates that we desist from teaching the doctrines and traditions of men.

Now as for "honoring" of Prophets, I don't see how that in any way means "prophets" are to set themselves up as teachers over self. So, you would need to explain that a bit more so I see what you see. Speaking of Prophets, did you know that in the New Covenant, the Kingdom of God, every born-again follower of Jesus Christ is a defacto prophet because God's Spirit lives inside of such, and He not only leads them but also speaks through such. So how would it work out if every born-again sets himself up as teachers over the other born-agains in the same flock?

Another example for you to consider is this. In their respective letters, Paul and John are said to have called themselves fathers over some in His Jesus Christ's flock. But we know that Jesus declared it a sin for anyone to call another man father or declare oneself father over those in His Kingdom. What this means is Paul and John are wrong by what they have done in their letters and anyone who indeed calls them "fathers" commits sin against God.
For an example of how God changes His Law, go to and read Ezekiel 18 from chapter 1. He swears by His Name and then goes into lengthy detail on what it is He is changing and how. He doesn't simply have men throw their opinions in the bucket to overwrite what He has declared.

God never made leaders for your churches which He never included in His Kingdom, to begin with. Your churches have no place in His Kingdom, as they were never part of His design for His New Covenant Law. Also, your churches are built of, and atop doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ made clear were lies as far as the Truth of God is concerned. So, stop assuming them to be of God when they are not of Him.

Honestly, I don't have anything to add or delete from this.
Cos Jesus did say no one should be called Father except God which Paul and John contradicted.

But about leadership, I will still believe it is impossible to have a church without a leader or leaders stewarding for the head, Christ.

According to Ezekiel 18 which you quoted, God is against human leaders leading the church and shepherding the flock. But you have rightly also said, in the mouth of two or more witnesses is a truth established. Is there any other verse in the Bible that confirms this?

hoopernikao:


Secondly, I am not sure you have taken my advise of always reading your Bible well.

See all you put above there comparing to the church of Jesus. Human government.
Are you sure there is no issue anywhere? Just running everytime to prove a point from the bible. Imagine your list? Very dishonest.

- Moses against Pharaoh. You lied: Moses had his church (the Isrealite), God's institution
- Daniel and the 3 Hebrew brothers against the Babylonian authorities. You lied: Daniel had the Jews, not evident because it was a time of persecution of the Jews
- Mordecai against Haman. You lied: Mordecai had same, He reminded Esther of the group, institution she belonged. God's institution
- John the baptist against Herod. You lied: John had disciples that gather with him. He has his people, his church. God's institution
- Jesus against Jewish authorities. You lied: Jesus had same, his church, his disciples, his members. God's institution

Why always dishonest in order to prove a point, Or i should assume you are ignorant to have compared the church and God's institution to human empires and government.

Please Bro, stop embarrassing bible explanation here.

Rebellion is as witchcraft, you end up doing things irrational. The signs are already showing here Sir.

Once again you are blinded by religion.


Of course the disciples were subject to the leadership of Christ. Likewise John the baptist had disciples subject to him.

Did Moses submit to any church or Jewish authority?
Did Jesus submit to the Jewish authority? Even though he was a Jew?

My point here is concerning those whom Jesus called separately.

Myer:
Honestly, I don't have anything to add or delete from this.
Cos Jesus did say no one should be called Father except God which Paul and John contradicted.

But about leadership, I will still believe it is impossible to have a church without a leader or leaders stewarding for the head, Christ.

According to Ezekiel 18 which you quoted, God is against human leaders leading the church and shepherding the flock. But you have rightly also said, in the mouth of two or more witnesses is a truth established. Is there any other verse in the Bible that confirms this?

Ezekiel 34 is instead where God declares that He is against Shepherds.
Jesus Christ indeed confirms God's declaration in Ezekiel 34.

John 10 vs 7-20 (ERV)
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7. So Jesus said again, “I assure you, I am the gate for the sheep.
8. All those who came before me were thieves and robbers. The sheep did not listen to them.
9. I am the gate. Whoever enters through me will be saved. They will be able to come in and go out. They will find everything they need.
10. A thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But I came to give life—life that is full and good.
11. “I am the good shepherd, and the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep.
12. The worker who is paid to keep the sheep is different from the shepherd. The paid worker does not own the sheep. So when he sees a wolf coming, he runs away and leaves the sheep alone. Then the wolf attacks the sheep and scatters them.
13. The man runs away because he is only a paid worker. He does not really care for the sheep.

14-15. “I am the shepherd who cares for the sheep. I know my sheep just as the Father knows me. And my sheep know me just as I know the Father. I give my life for these sheep.
16. I have other sheep too. They are not in this flock here. I must lead them also. They will listen to my voice. In the future, there will be one flock and one shepherd.
17. The Father loves me because I give my life. I give my life so that I can get it back again.
18. No one takes my life away from me. I give my own life freely. I have the right to give my life, and I have the right to get it back again. This is what the Father told me.”
19. Again the Jews were divided over what Jesus was saying.
20. Many of them said, “A demon has come into him and made him crazy. Why listen to him?”

Do compare what Jesus Christ states above to what God declared in Ezekiel 34, to see that it is indeed God's proclamation.

Ezekiel 34 vs 9-16 (ERV)
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9. So, you shepherds, listen to the word of the Lord!
10. The Lord God says, “I am against the shepherds. I will demand my sheep from them. I will fire them. They will not be my shepherds anymore. Then the shepherds will not be able to feed themselves, and I will save my flock from their mouths. Then my sheep will not be food for them.”
11. The Lord God says, “I myself will be their Shepherd. I will search for my sheep and take care of them.
12. If a shepherd is with his sheep when they begin to wander away, he will go searching for them. In the same way I will search for my sheep. I will save them and bring them back from all the places where they were scattered on that dark and cloudy day.
13. I will bring them back from those nations. I will gather them from those countries and bring them back to their own land. I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, by the streams, and in all the places where people live.
14. I will lead them to grassy fields. They will go to the place high on the mountains of Israel and lie down on good ground and eat the grass. They will eat in rich grassland on the mountains of Israel.
15. Yes, I will feed my flock, and I will lead them to a place of rest.” This is what the Lord God said.
16. “I will search for the lost sheep. I will bring back the sheep that were scattered and put bandages on the sheep that were hurt. I will make the weak sheep strong, but I will destroy the fat and powerful shepherds. I will feed them the punishment they deserve.”

There is also the passage in Matthew 20 vs 20 -28, where Jesus Christ outright declares it a sin for His followers to set themselves up as authorities/leaders/masters over the others, declaring that instead they serve the others as servants and slaves , like He, Jesus Christ, did.

When you put it all together, you quickly realize Jesus Christ taught against what you call your church authorities/leadership and any other kind among those in His Kingdom, declaring that His followers are all equals instead - no man above any other.

Myer:


Once again you are blinded by religion.


Of course the disciples were subject to the leadership of Christ. Likewise John the baptist had disciples subject to him.

Did Moses submit to any church or Jewish authority?
Did Jesus submit to the Jewish authority? Even though he was a Jew?

My point here is concerning those whom Jesus called separately.

You must be a very good dancer in the natural.

You seems not to be good with reading. The argument here is about individual identifying with a gathering either as the authority or surbodinate.

- Moses was the head of the Jews, the authority, the pastor or his days had his members (a people of Moses together, he identified with a gathering). This is the focus of discussion. The church was submitted to Moses as Moses, God. Hence Moses was identify with a church. He has a people, a gathering.

- Jesus did the same, he had his gathering, he fellowship and identify with them, His church was not the Jews but his disciples.
Jesus and Moses were the peak of the authority of their assembly, hence they submitted to God yet has a gathering they identify and fellowship with.

Now
Since, you seems to be the Moses and Jesus of our time, the peak of the authority, kindly, ascertain here that you have your own gathering that meet you, submit to your authority as you submit to God as we saw in Moses and Jesus. God's mind is for his people to gather. Moses fulfilled this, Jesus did. What about you?

So answer
1. Do you identify with a church? where is your gathering, the ones submitted to you, (since you are Moses). The ones you gather with?

This is the main discussion, answer it and cease from rebellion.

Myer:


The challenge I've always had with you as always is that you have such abundance of head knowledge but no revelations.

I've told you several times that until you realise that biblically God's path for Peter was different from his path for Paul. Meaning unless you have a divine revelation concerning a person or situation, you'll be so far amiss in your understanding and judgment of that situation.

1. Now concerning finding a church- It's either you just intentionally want to prove a pointless point or you missed the part where I mentioned that i was a staunch member and worker of a local assembly.
And no, I wasn't looking for a perfect church.

2. If loyalty could be measured, certainly I was highly loyal. I'm sure I was even more loyal than you could ever be. I not only saw my local assembly as somewhere I was divinely led to be worshipping. Evangelise Christ was primary, but I also evangelised the church when necessary. I practically made all my social media accounts platforms for Evangelism.

3. Here's where your head knowledge is exposed once again. Starting to teach doctrines or starting a fellowship is not something you do because you feel like, but because you're led by the Holyspirit and it is confirmed by leaders too.

Apparently you don't see the importance of the Holyspirit in your walk as a Christian. Which is why you keep getting it all wrong. You forget that you can be ever learning scriptures without ever coming to knowledge like the Pharisees.

That said, I'm not perfect but Jesus and the Apostles did teach that we are to be perfect like God is.

While I'm not perfect, neither placing anyone on the pedestal of perfection. It is important to know that what makes a Christian perfect is the assurance of the Holyspirit. When you do have the Holyspirit and he leads you, guides you, helping you both bear his fruit and manifest his gifts, then you are already perfect, not by your works but by his seal.

Firstly, Your to and fro many churches is still evident in your write up (See Paul address you here: Ephes 4:14). He called such act CHILDISH. Not me, Paul did. And a man with such tendency can never be loyal to anything.


Secondly, I have seen many drop the word "HOLY SPIRIT" as lyrics in discussions and never even understand what it means.
Your HOLYONLYSPIRIT seems to be different from the one God gave us as revealed in the scriptures. You dont have to prove and say you led of the spirit, we have the scriptures to judge your utterances and conducts. A man rebellious to God's authority is a keg of bomb powder, waiting to explode.

When you have to be singing who you are or what you have, then it is likely you never had it. Dont be afraid, calm down, God is still at work in you. You will yield in the soonest of time.

hoopernikao:


You must be a very good dancer in the natural.

You seems not to be good with reading. The argument here is about individual identifying with a gathering either as the authority or surbodinate.

- Moses was the head of the Jews, the authority, the pastor or his days had his members (a people of Moses together, he identified with a gathering). This is the focus of discussion. The church was submitted to Moses as Moses, God. Hence Moses was identify with a church. He has a people, a gathering.

- Jesus did the same, he had his gathering, he fellowship and identify with them, His church was not the Jews but his disciples.
Jesus and Moses were the peak of the authority of their assembly, hence they submitted to God yet has a gathering they identify and fellowship with.

Now
Since, you seems to be the Moses and Jesus of our time, the peak of the authority, kindly, ascertain here that you have your own gathering that meet you, submit to your authority as you submit to God as we saw in Moses and Jesus. God's mind is for his people to gather. Moses fulfilled this, Jesus did. What about you?

So answer
1. Do you identify with a church? where is your gathering, the ones submitted to you, (since you are Moses). The ones you gather with?

This is the main discussion, answer it and cease from rebellion.

I'm not dancing neither am I illiterate.
I just pointed you to 2 different examples that did not follow the norm.

Who are you to determine who God has set on a leadership path?
If Kobojunkie is to deliver this generation from the avalanche of fake churches and fake pastors that abound, who are you to determine that?

If only you had any spiritual gifts, by now you should have a spiritual revelation concerning him, and not keep judging him like the Pharisees judged Jesus till they had him crucified.

Myer:


I'm not dancing neither am I illiterate.
I just pointed you to 2 different examples that did not follow the norm.

Who are you to determine who God has set on a leadership path?
If Kobojunkie is to deliver this generation from the avalanche of fake churches and fake pastors that abound, who are you to determine that?

If only you had any spiritual gifts, by now you should have a spiritual revelation concerning him, and not keep judging him like the Pharisees judged Jesus till they had him crucified.

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You are a comedian. Kobo deliver this generation?
Your Waka around to many churches is still telling on you with your statement above. Looking around for revelation and prophecies.


Please, Lets talk the real issue jor.

I asked you key questions you jumped them.
A key question is this.

All those God used had their own congregation, their own people, a church, a gathering, a leadership. Where is your own and Kobojunkie own, those you lead or lead you, your gathering.
Is this hard to understand.

I agreed kobo is the Moses of our time and you are the Aaron, but where are your people, the one you lead, the one you gather. Don't they exist.

You want God to send you to people you never gathered, people you never knew how they met God, people you never cared for more than to drop argument in nairaland? That's the one God can send you to? No work but stories and arguments? Is this how to be sent to gods people?

It's easy to go after another man's labor and destroy in the name of, God sent me, than to labor and build your own people of God or help others to build.

Las Las Bro, it's all about a rebellious heart.

Trace your step back, go settle down in one of the God's family called church, and grow, and be better, and be used of God. You and kobo should cease from yielding to self-centeredness, it destroys.

hoopernikao:



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You are a comedian. Kobo deliver this generation?
Your Waka around to many churches is still telling on you with your statement above. Looking around for revelation and prophecies.


Please, Lets talk the real issue jor.

I asked you key questions you jumped them.
A key question is this.

All those God used had their own congregation, their own people, a church, a gathering, a leadership. Where is your own and Kobojunkie own, those you lead or lead you, your gathering.
Is this hard to understand.

I agreed kobo is the Moses of our time and you are the Aaron, but where are your people, the one you lead, the one you gather. Don't they exist.

You want God to send you to people you never gathered, people you never knew how they met God, people you never cared for more than to drop argument in nairaland? That's the one God can send you to? No work but stories and arguments? Is this how to be sent to gods people?

It's easy to go after another man's labor and destroy in the name of, God sent me, than to labor and build your own people of God or help others to build.

Las Las Bro, it's all about a rebellious heart.

Trace your step back, go settle down in one of the God's family called church, and grow, and be better, and be used of God. You and kobo should cease from yielding to self-centeredness, it destroys.

Was this not how the Pharisees doubted Jesus cos he was just an ordinary guy who wasn't even part of them?
O ye of little faith.

Study your Bible, Jesus and Moses were not of any religious gatherings. They were taught directly by God before they later formed their gathering.

The point being, gathering is necessary but they could also be exceptions especially for pioneers.

Any way, I'm not in the position to judge Kobojunkie, I'll leave that to you, since you're the expert on judging others.

Myer:


Was this not how the Pharisees doubted Jesus cos he was just an ordinary guy who wasn't even part of them?
O ye of little faith.

Study your Bible, Jesus and Moses were not of any religious gatherings. They were taught directly by God before they later formed their gathering.

The point being, gathering is necessary but they could also be exceptions especially for pioneers.

Any way, I'm not in the position to judge Kobojunkie, I'll leave that to you, since you're the expert on judging others.

Okay. So Moses or Jesus of our time. Now that you have been taught by God and no one, can you start to gather with people of God? This is very healthy for you. Abi, God didn't teach you this one?

hoopernikao:


Okay. So Moses or Jesus of our time. Now that you have been taught by God and no one, can you start to gather with people of God? This is very healthy for you. Abi, God didn't teach you this one?

And you must be the Ignoramus of our time.

Myer:


And you must be the Ignoramus of our time.

Yes, I will rather remain an ignoramus to false doctrine in other to do God's will than to depend on enticing words of man's wisdom, deceitfulness and deliberate rebellion to miss God's will.

Selah.