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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 6:27pm On Apr 15, 2021
Burtonj:
The International Federation of Football History and Statistics (IFFHS) is a non-governmental organization specializing in football statistics and historical records. On Monday, local time, IFFHS announced the ranking of the best head coaches for the first 20 years of this century. Mourinho reached the top, Low ranked second, Ferguson and Guardiola tied for third. China‘s former national football coach Lippi, ranked 15th.

Every year, IFFHS will select the best club coach and the best national team coach in the top 20 lists. When calculating the 20-year overall ranking, IFFHS converts the 20-year ranking into points, and then adds the 20-year points to get the coach’s final score. When calculating the annual points, IFFHS is based on the score of 20 points for the first place, 19 points for the second place, and so on. In the overall rankings, Mourinho ranked first with 226 points. Love ranked second with 213 points, and Ferguson and Guardiola tied for third with 183 points.



https://www.iffhs.de/posts/964

Context is key.

Ferguson coached for 13yrs in that period, same as Pep. Mourinho meanwhile coached for at least 18yrs. No surprise that he has more points.

If we do an average per year. Fergie and Pep have average of 14 points per year while Mourinho averaged 12.5 points per year.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:32pm On Apr 15, 2021
afrodoc:


Context is key.

Ferguson coached for 13yrs in that period, same as Pep. Mourinho meanwhile coached for at least 18yrs. No surprise that he has more points.

If we do an average per year. Fergie and Pep have average of 14 points per year while Mourinho averaged 12.5 points per year.

Simply put.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:42pm On Apr 15, 2021
Burtonj:
The International Federation of Football History and Statistics (IFFHS) is a non-governmental organization specializing in football statistics and historical records. On Monday, local time, IFFHS announced the ranking of the best head coaches for the first 20 years of this century. Mourinho reached the top, Low ranked second, Ferguson and Guardiola tied for third. China‘s former national football coach Lippi, ranked 15th.

Every year, IFFHS will select the best club coach and the best national team coach in the top 20 lists. When calculating the 20-year overall ranking, IFFHS converts the 20-year ranking into points, and then adds the 20-year points to get the coach’s final score. When calculating the annual points, IFFHS is based on the score of 20 points for the first place, 19 points for the second place, and so on. In the overall rankings, Mourinho ranked first with 226 points. Love ranked second with 213 points, and Ferguson and Guardiola tied for third with 183 points.



https://www.iffhs.de/posts/964

Love shocked shocked
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:05pm On Apr 15, 2021
nihilistjnr:


But it was Rashford goal that knocked out Mbappe which led to the exchange below

Rashford: Pele Aburo


Mbappe: Chai! Aiye mi o
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/gjDLSCpp/mbappe.jpg[/img]

grin grin grin

When they met indeed.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:26pm On Apr 15, 2021
Arsenal no come get chills for Prague.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:59pm On Apr 15, 2021
The UCL golden glove will definitely be going to England this season.

Mendy and Ederson have 7 & 6 Clean sheets respectively, while Courtois and Navas have 3 & 2 respectively.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:08pm On Apr 15, 2021
Hmmm
I love the yellow sha.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 10:11pm On Apr 15, 2021
Raumdeuter, 2 English teams are in the UCL semifinals. 2 English teams are also in the UEL semifinals.


What happened to German teams?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:19pm On Apr 15, 2021
handelex:
Charity they say begins at home. Do you practice what you preach Preacherman?

Sure. I'm supporting manyoo in the yuropa league. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by temmiiiope: 11:04pm On Apr 15, 2021
BikeMan:
Raumdeuter, 2 English teams are in the UCL semifinals. 2 English teams are also in the UEL semifinals.


What happened to German teams?

they took a break...
haha

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Burtonj: 12:36am On Apr 16, 2021
popizaino:


Love shocked shocked

Lol

That's typographical error

They meant Joachim Low
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Burtonj: 12:41am On Apr 16, 2021
afrodoc:


Context is key.

Ferguson coached for 13yrs in that period, same as Pep. Mourinho meanwhile coached for at least 18yrs. No surprise that he has more points.

If we do an average per year. Fergie and Pep have average of 14 points per year while Mourinho averaged 12.5 points per year.

Yea, you are very much right about Alex Ferguson but that shouldn't take away anything from Mourinho.

He did it with Porto and to show the world that it wasn't just a fluke, he did it with Inter Milan. That's greatness.

I just feel that he started losing it as he became older and also became less ruthless.

But I can't fault them for ranking him ahead of others, that he isn't winning much these days in terms of trophies shouldn't take away all that he has done in the game

He has really contributed immensely to the round leather game

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:43am On Apr 16, 2021
BikeMan:
Raumdeuter, 2 English teams are in the UCL semifinals. 2 English teams are also in the UEL semifinals.


What happened to German teams?

grin grin grin

raumdeuter:


How many times do I have to answer you.

German teams no longer care since the coefficient incentive has been taken away

When the coefficient becaomes an issue German teams will resume schooling EPL teams
like they did in the last 5 seasons

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 8:23am On Apr 16, 2021
Dsyo will come and tell us how Bayern won the UCL last season as if it's a crime to win it twice in a row.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:27am On Apr 16, 2021
Chelsea signed a highly rated talent with the initials 'EH' after winning the Champions League in 2012.

They are in the semifinals right now.

A certain 'EH' looks set to leave his club this summer.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:43am On Apr 16, 2021
nihilistjnr:


It's an interesting conundrum

The issue for me is this: As far as I am concerned Hudson must play, Pulisic must play, Werner must play, Mount must play.

343 does not have the same problem as 4 at the back. When you attack with fullbacks playing 4 at back, you leave only 2 men at the back to deal with counters. You dont have that problem playing 3 at the back, which is why Conte played an out an out winger, and a slow and defensively suspect fullback in the WB positions when we won the league.

Chilwell would do a job at LWB of course, but I would have preferred to play Puli there to use his ball carrying skills

Our back 3 picks itself imo - Rudger, Chris, Azpi.
I don't know why you guys are scared of Madrid. The only potent part of Madrid is their midfield, which Tuchel can settle with playing 3 midfielders. Either, mount, Kante and Kovacic (most preferably) or Kante, jorg and Kovacic.

352 or 433 will do the job. For 433, front 3 can be Ziyech, Pulisic and Havertz, midfield - Kante, Kovacic and Mount. James Zouma Silva and Chilwell.

With Madrid, our aim should be to load them with goals before they say Jack. Because their defence is always open due to Ramos running away looking for where to score.

Our counters should be swift and hard. By 60 minutes we can be 4 goals up. That is why Pulisic should start that match, because he can always steal in at the far post to score tap ins, which will present itself in many ways.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TrebleChamp(m): 8:44am On Apr 16, 2021
Burtonj:


Yea, you are very much right about Alex Ferguson but that shouldn't take away anything from Mourinho.

He did it with Porto and to show the world that it wasn't just a fluke, he did it with Inter Milan. That's greatness.

I just feel that he started losing it as he became older and also became less ruthless.

But I can't fault them for ranking him ahead of others, that he isn't winning much these days in terms of trophies shouldn't take away all that he has done in the game

He has really contributed immensely to the round leather game
He won the Europa League with Manutd not so long ago, he may likely win Carabao Cup with Spurs this season. Jose is a born winner, he plays negative footy, but he delivers the trophies.....

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 8:51am On Apr 16, 2021
Greatihex:
I don't know why you guys are scared of Madrid. The only potent part of Madrid is their midfield, which Tuchel can settle with playing 3 midfielders. Either, mount, Kante and Kovacic (most preferably) or Kante, jorg and Kovacic.

352 or 433 will do the job. For 433, front 3 can be Ziyech, Pulisic and Havertz, midfield - Kante, Kovacic and Mount. James Zouma Silva and Chilwell.

With Madrid, our aim should be to load them with goals before they say Jack. Because their defence is always open due to Ramos running away looking for where to score.

Our counters should be swift and hard. By 60 minutes we can be 4 goals up. That is why Pulisic should start that match, because he can always steal in at the far post to score tap ins, which will present itself in many ways.

I like the mount, Kova, Kante midfield tbh, but the vulnerabilities in defence would make it difficult to play 433, and the 352 would be too narrow for the strikers we have - Werner dey shake under close pressure, and Giroud no get pace to run the channels.

By the way, our strength is in wingers, we pack them boku. I prefer to cede the midfield and concentrate on exploiting the flanks which plays to our strengths

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:00am On Apr 16, 2021
Greatihex:
I don't know why you guys are scared of Madrid. The only potent part of Madrid is their midfield, which Tuchel can settle with playing 3 midfielders. Either, mount, Kante and Kovacic (most preferably) or Kante, jorg and Kovacic.

352 or 433 will do the job. For 433, front 3 can be Ziyech, Pulisic and Havertz, midfield - Kante, Kovacic and Mount. James Zouma Silva and Chilwell.

With Madrid, our aim should be to load them with goals before they say Jack. Because their defence is always open due to Ramos running away looking for where to score.

Our counters should be swift and hard. By 60 minutes we can be 4 goals up. That is why Pulisic should start that match, because he can always steal in at the far post to score tap ins, which will present itself in many ways.

With Kovacic expected to be fit for the tie, Pulisic doesn't need to fall deep to collect the ball and carry it like he did in our last match. So those runs for tap ins may be utilised as you opined.

Sincerely if our players are fit, we can knock them out, like you said they are open in defence. Raumdeuter's best African player ever, Salah must be blamed for messing up those chances he got against them in Anfield.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 10:16am On Apr 16, 2021
Greatihex:
I don't know why you guys are scared of Madrid. The only potent part of Madrid is their midfield, which Tuchel can settle with playing 3 midfielders. Either, mount, Kante and Kovacic (most preferably) or Kante, jorg and Kovacic.

352 or 433 will do the job. For 433, front 3 can be Ziyech, Pulisic and Havertz, midfield - Kante, Kovacic and Mount. James Zouma Silva and Chilwell.

With Madrid, our aim should be to load them with goals before they say Jack. Because their defence is always open due to Ramos running away looking for where to score.

Our counters should be swift and hard. By 60 minutes we can be 4 goals up. That is why Pulisic should start that match, because he can always steal in at the far post to score tap ins, which will present itself in many ways.

As if, it is going to be that easy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Burtonj: 11:08am On Apr 16, 2021
TrebleChamp:
He won the Europa League with Manutd not so long ago, he may likely win Carabao Cup with Spurs this season. Jose is a born winner, he plays negative footy, but he delivers the trophies.....

That's the main thing

Just win the damn trophies, it doesn't matter how you do it.

Some persons might win theirs playing beautiful footie while some persons can do theirs playing negative footie.

But that doesn't mean we should then undermine each successes, because we all have different ideologies about the round leather game.

I give it to Jose Mourinho

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 11:14am On Apr 16, 2021
airmark:


grin grin grin

LMAO! This man has said a lot of things here.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dost42(m): 11:14am On Apr 16, 2021
Madrid have a lot of runners and trying to dominate the likes of kross and modric won't be easy.I'd prefer the midfield trio of kante-kov-mount and puli -havertz our front 2,werner should be ideal for these games but id rather have a back 5 that should keep madrid at bay
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 11:21am On Apr 16, 2021
The lost art of ball chesting in 2021

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 11:38am On Apr 16, 2021
Lana1:
The lost art of ball chesting in 2021

I don't see anything wrong in the way Mount chested his.

Bissaka looks stupid.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:11pm On Apr 16, 2021
nihilistjnr:


I like the mount, Kova, Kante midfield tbh, but the vulnerabilities in defence would make it difficult to play 433, and the 352 would be too narrow for the strikers we have - Werner dey shake under close pressure, and Giroud no get pace to run the channels.

By the way, our strength is in wingers, we pack them boku. I prefer to cede the midfield and concentrate on exploiting the flanks which plays to our strengths
ceding the midfield is like ceding the tie, honestly. That kroos, casemiro and modric will just run us rugged. If we can hold that midfield, we don win. Madrid defense and attack is in that midfield.

We don't need Asensio running unto those passes from kroos and modric, or casemiro hitting shots at our goalie.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 1:25pm On Apr 16, 2021
Lana1:
The lost art of ball chesting in 2021

Ain't nun wrong with the way Mount chested that ball sir

But see Two-Bissaka nau grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 1:27pm On Apr 16, 2021
Dost42:
Madrid have a lot of runners and trying to dominate the likes of kross and modric won't be easy.I'd prefer the midfield trio of kante-kov-mount and puli -havertz our front 2,werner should be ideal for these games but id rather have a back 5 that should keep madrid at bay


Seems most of us want this midfield trio.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 1:51pm On Apr 16, 2021
BlueMann:


Ain't nun wrong with the way Mount chested that ball sir

But see Two-Bissaka nau grin
AWB looks like he's rehearsing cultural dance for the next new yam festival

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 2:57pm On Apr 16, 2021
Tuchel confirms both Kovacic and Christensen will be out for tomorrow's game, but Kante and Gilmour are available.

He also warned Man City: "From day one next season, we will hunt them."

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 2:59pm On Apr 16, 2021
Lana1:
AWB looks like he's rehearsing cultural dance for the next new yam festival
grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:01pm On Apr 16, 2021
patrickmuf:
Dsyo will come and tell us how Bayern won the UCL last season as if it's a crime to win it twice in a row.

How many clubs have won it twice in a row, Your club is even having problems making knockout stages

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