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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 1:12pm On Apr 16, 2021
Amastermovic:


More Steel work to your collection so now boss try add safety kit and improve the brand, You can start with booth Rocklander range of 4500. safety harness belt the half one, for few workers later full one , helmet in case of Bolt from up Etc

later I will explain some things i see lot of improvement in the bracing from the past 2 job u updated you are getting big now and I will soon be calling you a steel fabricator Boss
good morning sir. Thanks for your advice and your concern. Of course I'm very much concerned about the safety of my workers and I will want to improve on that. The problem here is whether they will want to do same. Just like am here learning more and new ways to improve on my field, majority of my fellows wouldn't give change a chance. Their reason is simple,if it has been working why try to change it. So buying the kits isn't a problem but they using it.


So trying to balance it out is kind of a tricky issue. Majority of my workers are already bosses when I started learning this skill under my boss. It's one thing to give them job and pay them. But trying to tell them how to be safe is something they can never accept. After all they have years of experience ahead of you. Innovation isn't part of their way of life

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Amastermovic(m): 1:21pm On Apr 16, 2021
michlins:
good morning sir. Thanks for your advice and your concern. Of course I'm very much concerned about the safety of my workers and I will want to improve on that. The problem here is whether they will want to do same. Just like am here learning more and new ways to improve on my field, majority of my fellows wouldn't give change a chance. Their reason is simple,if it has been working why try to change it. So buying the kits isn't a problem but they using it.


So trying to balance it out is kind of a tricky issue. Majority of my workers are already bosses when I started learning this skill under my boss. It's one thing to give them job and pay them. But trying to tell them how to be safe is something they can never accept. After all they have years of experience ahead of you. Innovation isn't part of their way of life

Then its high time you train young lads and drop people with this odd mentality I believe I'm far younger than you and when I tell workers something and they complain I get them the next time i wont be happy with such person but I try to practice what I preach so they will adjust also..

Just get them fancy safety booth , there a face cap with shield inside very fancy also get them that one hype it well for them anyone that use it get additional package all na scope

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 1:49pm On Apr 16, 2021
Amastermovic:


Then its high time you train young lads and drop people with this odd mentality I believe I'm far younger than you and when I tell workers something and they complain I get them the next time i wont be happy with such person but I try to practice what I preach so they will adjust also..

Just get them fancy safety booth , there a face cap with shield inside very fancy also get them that one hype it well for them anyone that use it get additional package all na scope
yes that's the goal. Train my own workers. But I still have to be using these people
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tonididdy(m): 1:54pm On Apr 16, 2021
Hi guys
Pls what exactly is used to install the artificial grass. One installer said nails
The other said gum.


Anyone used this grass carpets before and know how it was installed?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 1:55pm On Apr 16, 2021
tonididdy:
Hi guys
Pls what exactly is used to install the artificial grass. One installer said nails
The other said gum.


Anyone used this grass carpets before and know how it was installed?
nail ke.. its gum

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tonididdy(m): 1:56pm On Apr 16, 2021
twinskenny:
nail ke.. its gum
Thanks.
Pls do you know the exact gum?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 1:57pm On Apr 16, 2021
tonididdy:

Thanks.
Pls do you know the exact gum?
not sure but its same with the one they used to install 3D wallpaper
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 1:57pm On Apr 16, 2021
Amastermovic:


Then its high time you train young lads and drop people with this odd mentality I believe I'm far younger than you and when I tell workers something and they complain I get them the next time i wont be happy with such person but I try to practice what I preach so they will adjust also..

Just get them fancy safety booth , there a face cap with shield inside very fancy also get them that one hype it well for them anyone that use it get additional package all na scope

Icsl bro, It's not that easy, not all of them are ready to adopt a change.

Imagine when you conceptualize & try to make it real. Some of them would tell you “Oga e no dey work like that ooo, Na like this we dey always do am” Mehn.... grin


Just pray you don't have an encounter with a difficult one
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tonididdy(m): 1:58pm On Apr 16, 2021
twinskenny:
not sure but its same with the one they used to install 3D wallpaper
Ok top bond I guess
Tys.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 2:36pm On Apr 16, 2021
tonididdy:
Hi guys
Pls what exactly is used to install the artificial grass. One installer said nails
The other said gum.


Anyone used this grass carpets before and know how it was installed?



You can use both cool


Type of Gum : Top Bond
There is a chemical gum we buy from companies that make Paints & gum.. (can be used as well)

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 2:39pm On Apr 16, 2021
tonididdy:

Ok top bond I guess
Tys.
right

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 3:24pm On Apr 16, 2021
hamtabfawaz:




You can use both cool


Type of Gum : Top Bond
There is a chemical gum we buy from companies that make Paints & gum.. (can be used as well)

If it is Top Bond gum, it means he has to concrete the floor prior abi Top Bond dey work for ordinary sand, sand ground?

If he has to concrete the floor to get the gum to work, what's the point and cost savings of artificial carpet grass? Or is it just for aesthetic?

I say this because I think he asked before if he could place the artificial grass on ordinary ground and the response was yes. Or did I miss it?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 4:50pm On Apr 16, 2021
New arrival Spanish tiles
Available with adorable price
Head office block 10 shop 55 agric market Odun-ade bus stop badagry expressway Coker-Lagos
WhatsApp:09077504287,07062955047

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:06pm On Apr 16, 2021
Maybe adding price may set you apart from the others. Just a suggestion. I come in peace.
Blessedsunny2:
New arrival Spanish tiles
Available with adorable price
Head office block 10 shop 55 agric market Odun-ade bus stop badagry expressway Coker-Lagos
WhatsApp:09077504287,07062955047

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 5:29pm On Apr 16, 2021
Thanks sir but others have been buying from this platform so that I will not disturb others business
But I suggest my contact is here!
gordonbarrett:
Maybe adding price may set you apart from the others. Just a suggestion. I come in peace.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gameboy55: 6:52pm On Apr 16, 2021
godspeed:


Boss,

I sent an email to u.

U may share the contact of the guys who helped u with this or let's talk via e mail.


07035018748 JK
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redcliff: 7:21pm On Apr 16, 2021
tonididdy:
Hi guys
Pls what exactly is used to install the artificial grass. One installer said nails
The other said gum.


Anyone used this grass carpets before and know how it was installed?

nail ke? I suppose they would use Gum but it would destroy whereever it has been applied upon. That said, I used a doublesided cellotape to do mine and its still there up till today. Where did you get this grass from, its looking inferior.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 8:50pm On Apr 16, 2021
Blessedsunny2:
Thanks sir but others have been buying from this platform so that I will not disturb others business
But I suggest my contact is here!
This is a big problem with you guys who sell in Nigeria, the vast majority of people living abroad are used to see the price. like it, can afford it? pay and collect. You have no idea how this price hide is limiting your sale, truly you have no IDEA

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tonididdy(m): 8:57pm On Apr 16, 2021
redcliff:


nail ke? I suppose they would use Gum but it would destroy whereever it has been applied upon. That said, I used a doublesided cellotape to do mine and its still there up till today. Where did you get this grass from, its looking inferior.
I just culled the photo from Google, I haven't gone shopping yet but currently prices are pegged @5000 per 3x3ft.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tonididdy(m): 9:03pm On Apr 16, 2021
erico2k2:

This is a big problem with you guys who sell in Nigeria, the vast majority of people living abroad are used to see the price. like it, can afford it? pay and collect. You have no idea how this price hide is limiting your sale, truly you have no IDEA
Because they are extortionist who don't have a fixed price but have various prices for different customers.

Many of them Don know the definition of affordable. A businessman determines price himself, no price monitoring committee. That's why we have the issue of inflation at hand now because govt organizations setup for this purposes have failed to do their jobs.

A price of paint skyrockets from 7000 to 13000, nobody challenges this, they sell both old and new stocks for the new price. A popular highly patronised paint company in Nigeria, reduced quality and increased price (why not reduce quality and keep the price)

Ps: I don't come in peace ✌, I said what I said

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:12pm On Apr 16, 2021
erico2k2:

This is a big problem with you guys who sell in Nigeria, the vast majority of people living abroad are used to see the price. like it, can afford it? pay and collect. You have no idea how this price hide is limiting your sale, truly you have no IDEA

Like this

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:27pm On Apr 16, 2021
erico2k2:

This is a big problem with you guys who sell in Nigeria, the vast majority of people living abroad are used to see the price. like it, can afford it? pay and collect. You have no idea how this price hide is limiting your sale, truly you have no IDEA

No idea at all.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:36pm On Apr 16, 2021
n3xt:


Like this

Well, I’ll liked to have the picture of the product to match the price.

A novice might salivate at that picture at that price cheesy

Why we have truth in disclosure laws in the USA.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 9:43pm On Apr 16, 2021
Hello @diodarves, @next, @spyder880, @rootech etc

A friend saw my build and asked me a rather interesting question..

"Guy, if there was ONE stage of this your build you were asked to put it a whole lot of your savings to make it the best and this build LUXURIOUS...what will it be?"
I was stunned and I couldn't answer. He told me to think about it...and I am still guessing.

Please if it were you, what would you say?

I am about completing tiling and POP is done.

All left to do (hopefully) are
1. Screeding
2. Painting
3. Toilets and Taps
4. Kitchen cabinets and wardrobes
5. Pillar designs
6. Electrical fittings
7. Furniture
8. Floor stamping and land scapping

NB: Entrance door is Nigerian metal door.
This is a Villa house ooo
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 10:24pm On Apr 16, 2021
ceelog:
Hello @diodarves, @next, @spyder880, @rootech etc

A friend saw my build and asked me a rather interesting question..

"Guy, if there was ONE stage of this your build you were asked to put it a whole lot of your savings to make it the best and this build LUXURIOUS...what will it be?"
I was stunned and I couldn't answer. He told me to think about it...and I am still guessing.

Please if it were you, what would you say?

I am about completing tiling and POP is done.

All left to do (hopefully) are
1. Screeding
2. Painting
3. Toilets and Taps
4. Kitchen cabinets and wardrobes
5. Pillar designs
6. Electrical fittings
7. Furniture
8. Floor stamping and land scapping

NB: Entrance door is Nigerian metal door.
This is a Villa house ooo

Plastering for me.

On plastering does the "fate" of the building looks lie. Mistakes could be made on the wall or concrete casts and corrected by filling or scrapping/chizeling, mistakes could be made on the piping and corrected, but a mistake made with plastering is not easy to correct, it might stay there forever.

The worst thing is that a good screeding work cannot hide a crooked plastering work, an expensive painting cannot correct a bent wall edge or shoddy plastering work. It's even worse when you have an eye for details, you will be seeing the bent and crooked lines daily!
That could be very stressful cheesy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:43pm On Apr 16, 2021
ceelog:
Hello @diodarves, @next, @spyder880, @rootech etc

A friend saw my build and asked me a rather interesting question..

"Guy, if there was ONE stage of this your build you were asked to put it a whole lot of your savings to make it the best and this build LUXURIOUS...what will it be?"
I was stunned and I couldn't answer. He told me to think about it...and I am still guessing.

Please if it were you, what would you say?

I am about completing tiling and POP is done.

All left to do (hopefully) are
1. Screeding
2. Painting
3. Toilets and Taps
4. Kitchen cabinets and wardrobes
5. Pillar designs
6. Electrical fittings
7. Furniture
8. Floor stamping and land scapping

NB: Entrance door is Nigerian metal door.
This is a Villa house ooo

From a UK perspective, this is easy to answer: kitchen and toilets sell houses. A luxurious house is one with a fantastic top of the range kitchen with a well presented toilet.

A top of the range kitchen will be spacious (6x6m), with American double door fridge, a cooker range with six burners and oven, marble or granite or polished concrete countertop, microwave with wall and floor glossy cabinet units as a minimum.

In Nigeria we don't showcase our kitchen as such, so your living room should be top notch. POP is spot on. I'm not sure of the quality of your plaster work so screening your living room walls and carefully selected good quality floor tiles will nail it.

I know you said ONE thing, but don't forget your kerb appeal. This is very important. Your gate design, railing design, pillars, coping and interlocking will help tie the house together.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:03pm On Apr 16, 2021
tonididdy:

Because they are extortionist who don't have a fixed price but have various prices for different customers.

Many of them Don know the definition of affordable. A businessman determines price himself, no price monitoring committee. That's why we have the issue of inflation at hand now because govt organizations setup for this purposes have failed to do their jobs.

A price of paint skyrockets from 7000 to 13000, nobody challenges this, they sell both old and new stocks for the new price. A popular highly patronised paint company in Nigeria, reduced quality and increased price (why not reduce quality and keep the price)

Ps: I don't come in peace ✌, I said what I said

You know I did not wanna label them as such cos I nor get the energy to E_fight today me and this guy we dey the pic down there get an appt. This is so disheartening, put the cost of product nah fight, even as dodgy as china is, the put prices, its up to you to chose what one you want, In real life we will haggle price, on the net you want people to haggle price too it is well with us Nigerians.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:07pm On Apr 16, 2021
spyder880:


Plastering for me.

On plastering does the "fate" of the building looks lie. Mistakes could be made on the wall or concrete casts and corrected by filling or scrapping/chizeling, mistakes could be made on the piping and corrected, but a mistake made with plastering is not easy to correct, it might stay there forever.

The worst thing is that a good screeding work cannot hide a crooked plastering work, an expensive painting cannot correct a bent wall edge or shoddy plastering work. It's even worse when you have an eye for details, you will be seeing the bent and crooked lines daily!
That could be very stressful cheesy
Pls my Oga set me straight on this one, between Plastering, windows, ceiling, plumbing, what order should one proceed that industrial pro like you follow
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 11:20pm On Apr 16, 2021
erico2k2:

Pls my Oga set me straight on this one, between Plastering, windows, ceiling, plumbing, what order should one proceed that industrial pro like you follow

1. Internal wall piping for plumbing and electrical equipment
2. Plastering
3. Ceiling
4. Windows
5. Door frames
6. Wall Screeding
7. Tiles

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:30pm On Apr 16, 2021
spyder880:


1. Internal wall piping for plumbing and electrical equipment
2. Plastering
3. Ceiling
4. Windows
5. Door frames
6. Wall Screeding
7. Tiles
Thanks appreciate

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:48am On Apr 17, 2021
ceelog:
Hello @diodarves, @next, @spyder880, @rootech etc

A friend saw my build and asked me a rather interesting question..

"Guy, if there was ONE stage of this your build you were asked to put it a whole lot of your savings to make it the best and this build LUXURIOUS...what will it be?"
I was stunned and I couldn't answer. He told me to think about it...and I am still guessing.

Please if it were you, what would you say?

I am about completing tiling and POP is done.

All left to do (hopefully) are
1. Screeding
2. Painting
3. Toilets and Taps
4. Kitchen cabinets and wardrobes
5. Pillar designs
6. Electrical fittings
7. Furniture
8. Floor stamping and land scapping

NB: Entrance door is Nigerian metal door.
This is a Villa house ooo


I once shared this before:


"No bottom to how cheap you can build"

A home can be built with no supports, too small of a foundation, no building plan, no special windows. It can be built on solid rock, unstable soil or on water (as they do in Makoko slum).

Develop a budget, but be careful not to make it too low. Essentially, do not get too caught up in how to make your home cheaper stay focused on how to make you home a good investment.


To your question, I can only tell you what I’d do.

"Guy, if there was ONE stage of this your build you were asked to put it a whole lot of your savings to make it the best and this build LUXURIOUS...what will it be?"

I’d focus on the form. I’ll ensure the framework is compact, with a good form factor.

- compact design
- great facade
- large windows

Building anything great and economical requires a lot of planning (on paper).

So the carcass stage is it for me. On finishes, I’d save on where I can by looking for value engineering but never to skimp on actual quality.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Temi1(m): 5:11am On Apr 17, 2021
n3xt:
XL6 Trillion | Atrium House by NextHome

Finalizing the 3rd milestone in a bit

Pre-slab work underway.

This looks interesting. Please could you shed more light on the purpose of this pre-slab work?

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