popizaino:



The two biggest franchises in football club history is underdog because Jose was employed ....this argument is lost at this point

As at then madrid was underdog in ucl. same with chelsea.

hensben:
Before the three trophies how was man u faring?

We won a trophy just before mou came in, and it was a trophy better than 2 trophies mou won.

hensben:
As at then madrid was underdog in ucl. same with chelsea.

At that time
Oga Madrid can never be an underdog in a UCL.

popizaino:


All this players including two previous world best players together with xabi Alonso,modric,nuhu sahin,cavalho name them is what I call backing .

How were those players performing in ucl before mou took over?

From grace to grass for mou.

From being compared to elites like pep, to been compared with mediocre like ole and dean freaking Smith.

Aston Villa and the underdog loving coach competing for the Europa conference.

What I love to see.

elampiro:


McTominay has the basic more than some who later went to dominate the DM position. There is no one route style to playing the DM position. Kean, Carrick, Toure, Fernadinho, Mikel, Pirlo, Oliseh, Ndidi, Essien, Matic, all have diffenrent style.

If Kante started at United, he would have been called a headless chicken

I was talking generally but let’s examine the McTom ish.

What are the basic midfield attributes that McTom has?

Illimitable:


It is.....

The fact that other managers have done it immediately rubbishes Pep’s achievement and indicates he’s not special.

How long ago the clubs had won it before the manager’s arrival also indicates the mentality the manager had to beat to win it.

Pep failure alone at bayern is enough to end this debate. I remember when i was telling raumdeuter pep has regressed bayern he was arguing, when he left they became formidable again and won treble. Only a sentimental being will say pep>mou achievement. I don't like mou tactics but in terms of achievement the guy is really special.

handelex:
Rubbish.

A good manager leaves a solid foundation for his successor to build on and continue the winning culture not burning everything down and leaving a toxic environment behind.

That Mourinho won something in his first season at United was the work of Van Gaal which he destroyed and we are here today.

So what did pep do to bayern before and after he left?

popizaino:





I have heard worse from Jose Mourinho fans.

How was ronaldo performing with madrid in ucl before mourhino?

BARAJ92:
What are you even saying. As if, it is easy to win the champions league every season, Mention any manager apart from Zidane that have win the champions league in consecutive years. Same Mourinho that has always been relieved of his duties, mention one club that has sacked Guardiola in between the season.
What happen to Mourinho that he won only a league title with Madrid with world class players that later won the champions league 4 times after he was sack.

A season before Mourinho was employed to Chelsea, they have finished second and in the previous season, they have been eliminated in the semi final, why didn't Mourinho win a champions league trophy with them or a premier League title after his return to premier League.

Currently, Mourinho have lost his winning touch, Most top clubs would go for Guardiola before considering Mourinho.

You mean clubs with unlimited budget will go for pep. ok i agree

I love this thread

KingAlabi:


At that time
Oga Madrid can never be an underdog in a UCL.

getting knocked out by lyon in r16 in 6 seasons is what?

KingAlabi:
From grace to grass for mou.

From being compared to elites like pep, to been compared with mediocre like ole and dean freaking Smith.

Aston Villa and the underdog loving coach competing for the Europa conference.

What I love to see.

Thats a trait of a great man, he is not afraid to take a difficult job unlike pep that demand unlimited spending before taking a job for fear of failure.

KingAlabi:

We won a trophy just before mou came in, and it was a trophy better than 2 trophies mou won.

Compare to Ole the DNA man mou won 3 trophies. Mou was getting jibes from man u ex players, how about now that Ole is in charge, same ex players have gone mute because ole is one of their own. Those ex players were throwing jibes at mou and you expect him not to retaliate. Those ex players contributed to the toxicity Mou had at man u.

Ah, quicken up man. I was obviously poking at someone, and so being done was not the point, which is something only time can tell.

eph12:

So mourinho is done at top level?

Leyqute:


I was talking generally but let’s examine the McTom ish.

What are the basic midfield attributes that McTom has?

What did Kean have? Gattuso?

KingAlabi:


At that time
Oga Madrid can never be an underdog in a UCL.

I can agree illimit.able is talking trash just to prove point. But seeing someone backing him?? Madrid underdog in ucl?

For example, Same Madrid that has kaka, c. Ronaldo and benzema. at least is underdog at 2009/2010 UCL season?

See banter wey I miss

Patiently waiting for it to evolve into full blown vayolence

Wan-Bissaka on his tackling:

"Concentration is an important element to tackle well. Patience too, you have to be patient. You should not dive right away. I sort of move away from the player who has the ball, I try to take it along the line and I do the rest.

hensben:
Thats a trait of a great man, he is not afraid to take a difficult job unlike pep that demand unlimited spending before taking a job for fear of failure.

Which difficult job?
Taking over Chelsea at 2004/05 with Abrahamovic money is a difficult job?


Taking an inter job with only inter as the superior due to juve relegated and Milan deducted massive points is a difficult job? (With both juve and Milan massively declined)

Madrid with world class players having kaka and c Ronaldo (two world best and world class players in their prime) plus other world class players having just only barca to contend with, is a difficult job?

Having spurs job after being jobless for a year is a difficult job?

Tomorrow if spurs sack mourinho and Brighton employs him, you'll start saying how he loves difficult job at Brighton.


The only difficult job he has was man u, that is to make man u win the league with guardiola and, klopp in the league already. But my man has to finish 6th in the league in order to win Europa. Finished 2nd and start raving how finishing 2nd is better than slice bread. The next season again, he's also out of top 4. Meaning he spent just 1 season in top 4 in man u. But of course, he's the king cos he won Europa that guardiola will never think of, or carabao cup that is just an add-on for guardiola trophy.

The worst is that, you guys are even calling community shield trophy for mourinho.
How low... Chai

elampiro:


What did Kean have? Gattuso?

Are you comparing McTom to Roy Keane and Gattuso?

eph12:

So mourinho is done at top level?

Yes, he's done at top level.
Let him go and manage national team or sort.
Present mourinho can't win any league in any competitive league again. Except he coaches Bayern or PSG

hensben:
getting knocked out by lyon in r16 in 6 seasons is what?

So your saying when Madrid got knocked out by Ajax they were the underdogs too ?

hensben:
Thats a trait of a great man, he is not afraid to take a difficult job unlike pep that demand unlimited spending before taking a job for fear of failure.

How is Tottenham a difficult job?

When last did Tottenham finish outside top 4 before mou came in?

Leyqute:


Are you comparing McTom to Roy Keane and Gattuso?

What was their pattern?

hensben:
Compare to Ole the DNA man mou won 3 trophies. Mou was getting jibes from man u ex players, how about now that Ole is in charge, same ex players have gone mute because ole is one of their own. Those ex players were throwing jibes at mou and you expect him not to retaliate. Those ex players contributed to the toxicity Mou had at man u.

Stop comparing mou with ole now

One is top class, the other mediocre

In an examination will you criticize a dull student for taking 2nd, 3rd or 6th?

What of a top class student taking 6th?

Jodera:
I can agree illimit.able is talking trash just to prove point. But seeing someone backing him?? Madrid underdog in ucl?

For example, Same Madrid that has kaka, c. Ronaldo and benzema. at least is underdog at 2009/2010 UCL season?

Na only ment Sha
Finally you can hardly see a wolf alone.

KingAlabi:

So your saying when Madrid got knocked out by Ajax they were the underdogs too ?

Madrid was underdogs you don't know.
As Roma knocked out underdog barca too incase you've forgotten.

Na only for nairaland we dey learn new meaning of words

KingAlabi:


Stop comparing mou with ole now

One is top class, the other mediocre

In an examination will you criticize a dull student for taking 2nd, 3rd or 6th?

What of a top class student taking 6th?

So you know and then some of your comrade are comparing them.
Btw, nor be same head them carry come life.

KingAlabi:

How is Tottenham a difficult job?

When last did Tottenham finish outside top 4 before mou came in?

Tott are underdogs to trophies so you demanding for trophy from Tottenham simply because mou is their coach now is not difficult abi?

Jodera:
Which difficult job?
Taking over Chelsea at 2004/05 with Abrahamovic money is a difficult job?


Taking an inter job with only inter as the superior due to juve relegated and Milan deducted massive points is a difficult job?

Madrid with world class players having kaka and c Ronaldo (two world best and world class players in their prime) plus other world class players having just only barca to contend with, is a difficult job?

Having spurs job after being jobless for a year is a difficult job?

Tomorrow if spurs sack mourinho and Brighton employs him, you'll start saying how he loves difficult job at Brighton.


The only difficult job he has was man u, in order to take them to the top. But my man has to finish 6th in the league in order to win Europa. Finished 2nd and start raving how finishing 2nd is better than slice bread. The next season again, he's also out of top 4. Meaning he spent just 1 season in top 4 in man u. But of course, he's the king cos he won Europa that guardiola will never think of, or carabao cup that is just an add-on for guardiola trophy.

The worst is that you guys are even calling community shield trophies for Mourinho.
How low... Chai

Having the same EPL trophies with Arsene Wenger(despite staying for 20+ years) is difficult.

Winning Europa League and UCL with FC Porto is difficult.

Winning the league with just 15 goals conceded is difficult.

Winning treble with Inter Milan is difficult.

Winning 2 EPL trophies in his first 2 years is difficult.

Winning all trophies associated with club football is difficult.

Winning the league with Real Madrid is difficult. (Considering Messi and Barcelona form, also ending Madrid 3 years without league trophy run)

Winning 3 trophies with Man utd is difficult ( until OLE wins a semi-final and a trophy )

Respect Mourinho abeg

hensben:
So you know and then some of your comrade are comparing them.
Btw, nor be same head them carry come life.

No be the same head you and Elon musk carry come life?