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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by DenreleDave(m): 8:44am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Prechboy: Pained niggar 5 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by AleAirHub(m): 8:44am On Apr 17, 2021 |
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 8:45am On Apr 17, 2021 |
scholes0: The 3% is the ruling house 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Gbajure(m): 8:46am On Apr 17, 2021 |
ogbonti: No. You are now comparing apples to oranges. There are no descendants of Portuguese in Lagos. But returnees with portuguese names form the ruling house. In the case of Benin, the Binis distinct from pure Edo are Yorubas are the royal family as ordained by Oranmiyan, and no one ever contested the ruling house with them. In the case of Itshekiris, it is even more ridiculous since they are pure Yoruba with some mixed with Binis, mind you not Edos, blood 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Sarmiz24(m): 8:47am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Aswear the guy na Mumu, I was following up the conversation until I reach that ilebinu that where I knew this guys is saying trash, almost African countries are named by European come mean say na white man land? ogbonti: 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 8:48am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure: You guys lie too much How can you say Bini people are Yoruba stock. We don't understand each other at all. 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by scholes0(m): 8:48am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Daum: Let me even say that for argument sake you are right (which you are not, because that 3% is Benin royalty who are ultimately Yorubas who spoke Yoruboid dialects and hence how they easily blended with the Itsekiris).. The ruling family you are claiming have already made it known via a unanimous decision that Tsola Emiko is the Olu in waiting.... So what is the argument about again? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by whizzler: 8:48am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure:U mean Atuwatse 11 mother? If that's the case then Ayiri should calm down as there is already a precedence or. They should just find a way to solve this impasse abeg 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Gbajure(m): 8:49am On Apr 17, 2021 |
ogbonti: Cleary you don't get the facts at all. At the height of the Ijaws killing, the Ogiame then, father of the Olú designate sent emissary to Ife, covertly of course, and Yorubas responded. That intervention stopped the genocide. OPC were on ground in Warri and even took the war to Ijaws in Ajegunle and Ondo State. Pls ask those that knew. 12 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by badman007(m): 8:50am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Some people never learn
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by ogbonti: 8:51am On Apr 17, 2021 |
scholes0: The Itsekiri tribe may have yoruba words but you forget that the Ruling house of Warri which all Itsekiris proudly accept and gave the legitimacy to rule over them for centuries is 90% Benin It was Prince Ginuwa, the Eldest son of Oba Olua and the sons of 70 Benin Chiefs that started the Warri Kingdom That is why you have Chieftaincy titles in Warri like Obazuaye, Ologbotsere, Iyatsere (Iyase) Ezomo, Uwangue, etc - These are Benin titles so you can not remove the Warri crown from deep Benin roots and any attempt to impose yorubas mix to it waters down the sophistication of the tradition and culture of Oluship in Warri 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by whizzler: 8:52am On Apr 17, 2021 |
ogbonti: The more reason history should be made compulsory in schools so confusions like this can be put to rest without much fuss 3 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 8:52am On Apr 17, 2021 |
scholes0: LOL who told you that Actually the Olu dynasty was started by a Benin blood and ijaw blood. Forget that tale of Benin speaking Yoruba. Benin had numerous neighbors and we communicated well with all our neighbors 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Gbajure(m): 8:55am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Daum: Watch my choice of words, I wrote Bini and not Edo. Edo and Yoruba are distinct people and civilisations. One from Odùduwà the other from Igodomigodo. Binis are the remnant of those that followed Oranmiyan to Edo land plus the descendants of Eweka, the first Ọba of Benin. Since Eweka mother is Edo, most Binis are there4 with Yoruba and Edo bloods. Binis are Yorubas while Edos are not. Incidentally only the descendants of Eweka can become the Ọba of Benin not any pure Edo. 7 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by ogbonti: 8:55am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure: you are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to your facts. You do not even know the person responding to you. I was on ground in WARRI during the ethnic crisis then and there was no cowardly y o ru ba OPC on ground Sir. The Itsekiris led by one Ogodobiri (WHO LATER DIED ) took the fight to the adversaries from OKERE to Ekurede Urhobo. Stop typing rubbish and know that people who are from WARRI ARE READING YOUR RESPONSE 7 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by scholes0(m): 8:56am On Apr 17, 2021 |
ogbonti: Let me even say that for argument sake you are right (which you are not, because that 3% is Benin royalty who are ultimately Yorubas who spoke Yoruboid dialects and hence how they easily blended with the Itsekiris).. The ruling family you are claiming have already made it known via a unanimous decision that Tsola Emiko is the Olu in waiting.... Atuwatse, Atorongboye, Omoluyiri, Abejoye, Akenjoye, Omagboye were ALL the official royal appelations of previous Olus of the Warri Kingdom, what do those mean in Benin?? So what is the argument about again? .... 16 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 8:56am On Apr 17, 2021 |
ogbonti: I believe the itsekiris should do their thing. The only problem with removing that edict is that, the succession will now be thrown to so many families. So many from the Ginuwa ruling house will be able to contest the throne. That is the only problem 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 8:56am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure:The truth is that you are so ignorant and your ignorance stinks. this your ignorance is propelled by the fact that you guys don't travel outside your region and it is a mess for you guys, these are some of the reasons the igbos will always be a better group when compared to the Yoruba. The fact is the land and the people oronmiyan called binis do not refer to themselves as Binis in our native tongue but Edo. hence the need to educate you that Edos and Binis are one and the same thing. the name Benins are only used by the Benins when they are speaking in English for emphasis so you know the group they are talking about. it's just like different names for the same group . example omo oduduwa and Yoruba, easily one would know you are referring to the yorubas. The yorubas and the Benins do not have any relationship outside the monarchy. we are different people linguistically, "if I speak my language as an Edo(bini) whatever you call it and you hear I go die". the Bini monarchy is direct primogeniture from father to son, it is not adulterated and cheap like some classless Yoruba stool. I ordinarily would not have replied you but I have seen some level of stark ignorance under the sun among the yorubas about my people and I wish to correct it 14 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Jeux: 8:56am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Does this article 4 means only princes whose mums are Bini and Yoruba can become olu? I don’t really understand it. ogbonti: |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by ogbonti: 8:57am On Apr 17, 2021 |
whizzler: EXACTLY!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Gbajure(m): 8:57am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Daum: But the Benin dynasty was started by a Yoruba blood, Eweka the Great, the son of Oranmiyan with an Edo mother. Oranmiyan toppled the existing Ogiso dynasty and that was never reversed till today. 7 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Onogiede(m): 8:57am On Apr 17, 2021 |
unity004:u must to give a damn in one way or another because if it starts entire naiji go hungry due to monthly allocation,.. mainly all the source comes here there,... therefore I urge you reason before talking trash. 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by scholes0(m): 8:59am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Daum: They had numerous neighbours...so what? Everyone has numerous neighbours.... Abi is there anyone here living in Antarctica? Which of the numerous neighbours spoke your language? That is the koko... Igbos speak Igboid languages, Yorubas speak Yoruboid languages. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by maxzzo1(m): 9:01am On Apr 17, 2021 |
realstars:Jega manchi.... |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by ogbonti: 9:01am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Jeux: YES - The law states that 1. The new Olu must be a direct son of the departed Olu - whose mother is an Itsekiri or a Bini woman 2. If the direct son is not qualified based on Rule # 1 - then the brother of the departed Olu who meets the qualification of Rule #1 is selected 3. If no brother meets the criteria of mom being Itsekiri or Bini, then an Uncle of the departed Olu is chosen 4. Anyone chosen to be presented to the Oracle must at least be a grandson of an Olu of Warri. But all options will be ratified by the Oracle because there will certainly be more than one person meeting the criteria This is the law that disqualified Prince Tsola Emiko in 2015 - Tsola did not meet the requirement because his mother is yoruba, that's it!!!!! 10 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 9:02am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure: Point of correction Oronmiyan could not stay in Benin because he never toppled it. It was Oba Ewedo a great grandson of Oronmiyan who successfully had a deal with the Ogianmen. Oronmiyan left Benin in anger. Vexation because he was promised soft landing by the Uzama. Since he could not get he left Benin in anger. Yes Oronmiyan had a Yoruba blood in him obviously from his mother side. We can keep the conversation on Oronmiyan 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Gbajure(m): 9:04am On Apr 17, 2021 |
UGBE634: There is absolutely no need to be abusive Bros. We are learning. You even know who I am and where I am posting from. Can you explain what you meant by this cleverly worded statement? The yorubas and the Benins do not have any relationship outside the monarchy. What relationship? And which family can become Oba of Benin? Edos and Yorubas are distinct but Binis are not! Let me humbly ask you this question, where are and what happened to Ifes those that left Ile-Ife with Oranmiyan and stayed behind to take care of his son Eweka and the descendants of Ọba Eweka. If you agree that Ọba Eweka is a Yoruba man, then what do you call his descendants that till today are the only one qualify to become Oba of Benin?. I even don't like to use Benin, a corruption of Bini used first by Oranmiyan, a Yoruba. 10 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 9:05am On Apr 17, 2021 |
scholes0: The neighbours of ife are all Yoruba speaking people. But in Benin, we had the igbos east of us, we had the Igalas north of us, we had the Yoruba west of us, we had the ijaw and itsekiris and uhrlbos south of us. That's what I mean by we communicated with them all. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 9:06am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure: I do not agree Eweka was a Yoruba man. I said Oronmiyan had Yoruba blood in him via his mother. I stressed that part. 5 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Xscape1993(m): 9:07am On Apr 17, 2021 |
We are always after earthly things that don't last long. What a big pity! |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 9:07am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure:I can see you are not willing to learn until you accept and shield your ignorance aside that Edos and Binis are one and the same thing then we can continue 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Jeux: 9:08am On Apr 17, 2021 |
ogbonti:thanks baba, maybe that’s the reason he married close to the Bini royal family. Thanks |
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