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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Gbajure(m): 9:11am On Apr 17, 2021 |
ogbonti: But the Bini ruling house, I meant just the ruling house, are Yoruba, even the name Ọba. They are the descendants of Eweka the son of Oranmiyan. It is not even an argument that before Oranmiyan arrival, it was Ogiso dynasty ruling over the Edo land and the words Ọba or Bini were never in the vocabulary. These are Yoruba words imported to Edo land by Prince Oranmiyan. 7 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by maxzzo1(m): 9:11am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Did Emiko qualify? If yes let him be but if no let d rules be cos bending d rules Will spell doom in future 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Vinnie2000(m): 9:13am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Prechboy: It was done many years ago..In 1952..The Olu then was called Olu of Itsekiri but He started calling himself, Olu of Warri.. Ijaws and Urhobos of Warri kicked against this but the Itsekiris took d case to Court and with some Political influence..(They had clout in Obafemi Awolowo's Action Group),,they won d case.. N that it is how Their ruler came to b known as Olu of Warri.. Funny enough,, in Warri town, u hardly see Dem or hear dier language being spoken.. But Urhobo n Ijaw is spoken in d Warri town n extension towns e.g Effurun, Ekpan, Jeddo,etc.. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by ogbonti: 9:13am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Daum: exactly - those fronting the coronation of Tsola do not mean well for the Kingdom Prince Tsola was born to then Prince Godwin Toritseju Emiko (who later became Ogiame Atuwatse) in 1984. The law disqualifying Tsola has existed for centuries but was only officially documented in the law of old Bendel State in 1979 - That is 5 years before Prince Tsola was born. So his father, Atuwatse II who read LL.B and LL.M in London UK, a very smart lawyer knew what he was getting into when he got married to a yoruba woman and had kids by her. He knew his direct offspring will not be King after him YET - he went ahead and did what he wanted. Why are we now burdened by this whole mess? 8 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by OkoNDOoBo: 9:13am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Daum:even the present oba of benin ewuare2 confirmed oromiyan as first oba of benin but it was a short period before his first son took over from him http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/pomp-pageantry-as-bini-kingdom-crowns-oba-ewuare-ii/ 3 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Oyiboman69: 9:14am On Apr 17, 2021 |
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by ogbonti: 9:15am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure: And Oduduwa is an Arab figitive... why not call his Sudanese or Saudi siblings to come rule over the yoruba nation of today since you dont want to stop spewing nonsensicals here 4 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by esere826: 9:15am On Apr 17, 2021 |
The Oba of Benin is wise enough not to advice Emami about changing the rules in the middle of the game. It's like his throne. There is a rule for it. It is passed from father to first son. It's not done the Yoruba or Fulani way were kings are chosen from princes. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Owologbo(m): 9:18am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Ctorch:Stop dishing out false information. Since when has isetkiri kingdom becomes warri kingdom? 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Oyiboman69: 9:19am On Apr 17, 2021 |
scholes0:stop saying what you know nothing about 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Gbajure(m): 9:21am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Daum: For argument sake let's agree that only Oronmiyan mother is Yoruba. And leave the Odùduwà part for other time. Then Eweka too has Yoruba blood then thru his father Oranmiyan. Let call those from Eweka with Yoruba blood via their ancestral mother Binis and the pure Edo people as Edos. And since only those Binis can become Oba, then the Bini monarchy is part Yoruba then. And if those are the same people that instituted Warri throne, it also is part Yoruba. I hope u get my point. 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by tempex88(m): 9:21am On Apr 17, 2021 |
zeusdgrt: Is Benin not part of Oduduwa? |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 9:21am On Apr 17, 2021 |
OkoNDOoBo: You see you guys always skip the main points. I never said anything about Oronmiyan being the first Oba or not. I said he left in anger because he couldn't rule. He was practically powerless. The Edions who brought him from Ife, didn't give him power. Power was with the Ogiamen. You Yoruba have painted a history in your head like Oronmiyan came in a war horse with his army and invaded benin and conquered it. Then he put his son to rule over Benin... Oronmiyan was brought to Benin by the Edions. He could not even defeat the Ogiamen. He left in anger.... The people he met didn't even understand him. So this whole idea of him being conqueror in Benjn and Benin people being Yoruba... I don't know where those lies come from 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Oyiboman69: 9:23am On Apr 17, 2021 |
scholes0:you're right... The only affiliation with the binis is the kingship and that's what is controlling the itsekiri people... you can see that your percentage distribution is invalid. I'm an itsekiri man 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Asiri1991: 9:25am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Why is history not compulsory in our schools? Nigeria is gone to the dogs. 3 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 9:25am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure: LOL.. Now I see You don't even know the different between bini and Edo. Now I see why you're confusing yourself.....lol A Benin man like you would say doesn't call himself Benin but he calls himself Edo. The title of the Oba of Benin is Omo N'oba Nedo.... 5 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by christopheojo(m): 9:25am On Apr 17, 2021 |
UGBE634:Thank you for schooling him.....He is still a child that ate bunch of vegetables and called it meat 5 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by mendelian(m): 9:25am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure: Normally I don't reply comment here. Ogiso is King of the Sky. Ogiamen is king of the water... I'm asking u what is the meaning of Oba in English if u say the Oba is a yoruba word ?? 4 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Oyiboman69: 9:26am On Apr 17, 2021 |
urbobo20:power resides where the people believed it resides...its a trick,a very small man can cast a very large shadow... Lord varys... GOT 3 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Artisticity1: 9:26am On Apr 17, 2021 |
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Owologbo(m): 9:27am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Juliusmalema:I believe the Yoruba by extension, are itshekiri. Attachee Yoruba. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Gbajure(m): 9:28am On Apr 17, 2021 |
UGBE634: Now I get your point. The reason I was stressing that sliver of point, is that only the descendants of Oranmiyan can become Oba of Benin. Even Odùduwà met autonomous groups in Ile Ife but we are now all call Yorubas and not Ọmọ Odùduwà and Ọmọ Obatala. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by candygist: 9:31am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Havertz10: Just like Tunubu. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Gbajure(m): 9:32am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Daum: But was it like that before Oranmiyan from Ilé Ife arrived? Were they ever called Binis? Was the king title ever Ọmọ Noba? Wasn't it Ogiso? |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Owologbo(m): 9:32am On Apr 17, 2021 |
PatriotExact:The yorubas are our children. There's no land to contain us all, so we decided to join hand and resources to send them to the west because they are the least trusted group of people. 5 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 9:34am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure: We don't call ourselves omo Eweka or omo oduduwa. Hope you understand. Because the monarchy in Benin did not bring us to our existence. It is the collective will of the edo people that gave birth to the monarchy. The power of the Benin monarchy is in the hand of the Edo people and Osagioduwa. The name of the Edo land you see is called igodomigodo. A Benin man would say he is an Ovbi'edo. Son of the soil... 3 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Owologbo(m): 9:34am On Apr 17, 2021 |
scholes0:No, the Itsekiri are not Yorubas. Rather, Yorubas are Itsekiri. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by scholes0(m): 9:37am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Owologbo: All na semantics and unnecessary ping pong. If you like say Yorubas are Itsekiri, if you like say Itsekiris are Yoruba, nothing spoil. we own ourselves. They are welcome on OUR LAND for FREE They can claim all 50 million of us... we dey for them! 13 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TeraHawks: 9:38am On Apr 17, 2021 |
I agree with your position on overturning the rule to let the son of a Yoruba woman take his rightful throne. However, you realize the decision to overturn should have been agreed upon before this situation came up. It would not look good that the rules of a football game are changed during play to give a team an advantage. So, I would say the installation of the new Olu is held off until this all important meeting is held and the rule changed with the full agreement of all parties. Otherwise, the Olu designate is dropped for someone who meets all the rules. Fairness is very critical in matters like this. Lastly, the Yoruba's are an offshoot of the Bini and not the other way round. You can do your research on this. Juliusmalema: 5 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Gbajure(m): 9:39am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Daum: Only those ignorant of history will said that Oranmiyan conquered Edo land. He was invited. And he left in frustration and anger with the Ogiamme antagonism. But he left his son Eweka for a good reason. And even tough the Ogiamme first refused to let Eweka ruled eventually he prevailed and become the arguably second Ona of Benin. To digress a bit, don't u think the Ife people will know more about Oranmiyan, who was born and raised there, than anyone else? Oranmiyan is not a son of Odùduwà but a grandson. Not by any chance a first born. But due to his warrior nature as Ifá revealed he was allowed to go with the Edions by Odùduwà. Who will trust his first born, the Adimula in waiting to travel that far with strangers? 4 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by loswhite(m): 9:39am On Apr 17, 2021 |
ogbonti:go back and read his post then understand before commenting...lol between what is shorrop? |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Daum: 9:39am On Apr 17, 2021 |
Gbajure: It is the itsekiris that told the Portuguese that we are Binis... Oromiyan coming to Benin didn't make us become Benins. In fact we call Benin city Edo. A man in auchi will tell you he is traveling to Edo(benin). The urhobo man will call Benin (AKA)... The igbos would say it's idu. So before Oromiyan came, the rulers of Edo were called Ogiso. After he came the title changed to what it is now. The title was given to Eweka by the Benin people. 2 Likes |
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