Gbajure:


But if Odùduwà is not Yoruba how can Eweka or Oranmiyan has Yoruba blood?

On the Odùduwà history, it is a big shame that most Yorubas don't even know the true story or endeavor to. When Yorubas say Odùduwà descended from the heaven, they don't believe it. Samething with Igodomigodo story. These are called myths. But the same people believe that Elijah rode a craft to heaven and that Jesus ascended to heaven.

Only the Ife people can authoritatively tell the story, and then only the Aworo Odùduwà, those are the descendants of Odùduwà in Ile Ife.

In Yoruba mythology, it is believe that everything is in doubles, call it duality of existence. For example some people think that Sango, the son of Oranmiyan is the same Sango that is a diety. Not at all. How can Sango a contemporary of Ogun, Obatala etc be the same as Sano the son oranmiyan and a Nupe mother?.

Sango the diety is better known as Oranfe onílé Ina in Ife. The same way Obaluaye is called Sanpona outside Ife. But becos the later Sango show similar power of thunder controlling like Sango the Oranfe, he was given the name Sango.

The samething with Odùduwà. There is Odùduwà the contemporary of Agboniregun etc. He descended from heaven. The later Oduduwa migrated down from Nile area, some said Arabia. And for people saying he migrated from Edo land, tell them the Edo people were part of the massive migration down from the Nile area. S it is not true.

BluDesk:



I know. Auto correct. I'm busy with work. Forgive me

Sammy07:


Can you understand itshekiri language?

I from Ondo state understands it perfectly

Gamer999:
Whenever I hear warri, Benin or edo, what comes to mind is juju, ruggedity, yahoo and cultism

God bless Sony interactive entertainment ;God bless the United States ;God bless Nigeria ;God bless Kogi state; God bless the good people of Okene.

breko:
typical uhrobo man wey nor wan remove mouth for itsekiri'matter

scholes0:
Itsekiris and Yorubas are inseparable... We both have ifa, ogun and umalokun. Benins have some too but got it from us.

Besides, Itsekiris don't understand BINI Language...

Come in Itsekiri is WA... What is it in yours?
Cloth in Itsekiri is ASHO... what is it in yours?
Family is EBI while people is ARA... What is it in Bini?
Food is Oje, Soup is Obe, Fish is Eja, Water is Omi, Oil is Ekpo, Medicine/20/War/Talisman is Ogun, Dance is Jo.... I can go on forever.

Thank ORITSE for English and pidgin that Oyibos brought, Itsekiris would have been like Fish out of water in Benin city.... while they would blend in perfectly anywhere in Coastal Yorubaland.... Nigeria is the only place where some people will think they have the right to 'claim' others who don't even understand their language as if those ppl are a conquered or servile race, and yet everyone is busy complaining about Fulanis while doing the very same things and worse in their backyards..... No wonder the whole country is upside down.

breko:
typical uhrobo man wey nor wan remove mouth for itsekiri'matter

BluDesk:
yorubas fought that war




That is true o. See history, how time flies. That's so so true. Where where they between 1993 and 1997.

ogbonti:


You are mixing apples with Oranges. For example - The name Lagos is a Portuguese word for Lake, Oya go and invite Cristiano Ronaldo to come become Oba of Lagos now, since na Portugal get Lagos, Agbaya - Ile Ibinu ko, Ile Iluji ni

babslepe:
then you must be Ilaje or Ijaw to understand itshekiri perfectly

Daum:


Bro
I said maternaly. According to your Yoruba story on it, Oronmiyan was a grandson, then the son of oduduwa must have taken an Yoruba wife. In fact it is said he took two wives. One gave. Birth to the 7 Yoruba kings of which Oronmiyan is the last born and the other wife gave birth to the Ooni.

AreaFada2:


Abeg nor use laff wunjure me o.

Na Figo he suppose invite to be Eleko. CR7 may be too busy making money for now.

scholes0:


All na semantics and unnecessary ping pong.

If you like say Yorubas are Itsekiri, if you like say Itsekiris are Yoruba, nothing spoil. we own ourselves. They are welcome on OUR LAND for FREE They can claim all 50 million of us... we dey for them!

Juliusmalema:





I will never support evil and as such the article 4 is a useless one.....

Itshekiri are by extension Yorubas, So it makes no sense, I mean no sense how the son of a Yoruba woman won't become king.

The 1979 edict is a daylight robbery and shouldn't stand.

The Benin kingdom itself is a yoruboid kingdom ( Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor an Itshekiri man affirmed this)...

Prince Tsola should be crowned the Olu of Warri.

You cannot deny the real owners of the kingdom by extension their right to also rule their land.

The Article 4 should be burnt to ashes....It has outlived it's usefulness and reason it was created.

If some lies, revisionist are not nipped to the mud, they might end up extending the local government they want to control in their expansionist agenda upto Nine..

Daum:



Shut up the Benin kingdom was already existing before Oduduwa was known in Ife.

AreaFada2:


Abeg nor use laff wunjure me o.

Na Figo he suppose invite to be Eleko. CR7 may be too busy making money for now.

BluDesk:





That is true o. See history, how time flies. That's so so true. Where where they between 1993 and 1997.

ogbonti:



exactly

BluDesk:



Thank you

Now I'm hearing facts from a person that has superior knowledge that I can humbly take away lots of quality information from. Not all these paid thugs up and down.


The law is the law of any land. I'm not an Itshekiri and I shy away from being involved in tribal matters that I don't belong to. Even the tribe I belong to, I try as much to not discuss issues. But this one seems to be causing so much ruckus.


People don't seem to understand the stance Ayiri is maintaining. I've never agreed with Ayiri on anything in life but I think I see his point of view and understand his position clearly after hearing from him.


I believe the morale of the story is simple. If foreign elements take ownership of the throne, most decisions will have " foreign " interests at heart or mixed interests which will not ultimately be the best interest of the tribe at heart. In such cases every community must protects it's best interests by placing it in the hands of people who can manage its best interest, hence the choice of Benin or Itshekiri mother. I believe Ayiri has a legitimate case.

Simbrixton:
the 1979 edict was put in place to stop half urhobos and half ijaws from getting to the throne every yoruba man knows this it is sad our bini neighbours are trying to turn the 1979 edict into a bini hegemony over the itsekiris the edict has been successfully edited with yoruba included into it

Daum:


You see you guys always skip the main points. I never said anything about Oronmiyan being the first Oba or not. I said he left in anger because he couldn't rule. He was practically powerless. The Edions who brought him from Ife, didn't give him power. Power was with the Ogiamen.

You Yoruba have painted a history in your head like Oronmiyan came in a war horse with his army and invaded benin and conquered it. Then he put his son to rule over Benin... Oronmiyan was brought to Benin by the Edions. He could not even defeat the Ogiamen. He left in anger.... The people he met didn't even understand him. So this whole idea of him being conqueror in Benjn and Benin people being Yoruba... I don't know where those lies come from

Fernandezaferna:


Lol I'm not urhobo pls

ogbonti:




what do you know about the Warri Kingdom?

The name "OGIAME" that every Olu of Warri is called is not a yoruba name- It is a Bini name - do you know that?

ogbonti:



exactly

babslepe:
then you must be Ilaje or Ijaw to understand itshekiri perfectly

BluDesk:




Did the law state that or you imagined it..

Simbrixton:
yorubas fought in warri clear fact wey nobody fit distort many okitipupa boys fought dat war Ayiri mum's hometown

Bini people sef i tire 4 una abeg

BluDesk:




I was on ground and no external parties mentioned anything. I'm not Itsekiri.. But I have vivid memories of how deadly those days were. Funny, I no remember wetin end am sef

BluDesk:




Did the law state that or you imagined it..

Simbrixton:
you no be itsekiri bros e go good make u maintain ur lane sha here no be ikpoba hill