[[s]quote author=AdakaBoro8 post=100863910]see what landlocked has turn u people to... landlockedness has turn igbo activists to total insane people.. fabricating a unfabricateble history.. twisting the untwistable history.. igbo activists having sleepless trying to shake IJAW rigid identity all bcux u want sea access.. mtchew. pls go try another lie. [/quote][/s]

Bayelsa state is the only recognize home of ijaw people with 8 local government.

lebuhsi:


Shey una want Biafra because of "Fulanization agenda" now me as Niger Delta now, De come de see all this nonsense for SM no be "Ibgonisation agenda" be this? how is it any different?

when you get your Biafra, with all this alienation agenda, Ijaw people no go de inside?

Oga stop crying
No sane Igbo wants a republic with any ijaw miscreant (with there oyel mentality)
If there should be Biafra, it should be a strictly Igbo affairs excluding ikwerre nd Ika.
And come to think of it
I haven't seen any igbo man Dead or alive claiming Ijaw
But we have ijaw people like Asari, Hilda and co always claiming igbo in national TV
Even GEJ tired that shit to the extent of adopting Igbo names,

Your musicians that grow up in pH
The likes of preye odede, timaya and co
All sing with Igbo
But we all know that no sane Igbo man, can claim or sing with ijaw language
So Tell your people to stop attaching themselves to igbo..
And move on
Imagine
You folks after drinking your ogogooro and believing in your fantasy, coming online trying to claim lands from South East (Abia state) Ndoki.
Have you seen igbo man claiming any part of ijawland! Eh!?

[[s]quote author=AdakaBoro8 post=100864028]igbo and fulani are brothers[/quote][/s]

This is why I hate you ijaw with passion changing narratives to suit you.

Ijaw is fighting Itsekiri for land in Delta state, ijaw is fighting Yoruba for land in ondo state,
Ijaw is fighting Bini people for land in Edo
Ijaw is fighting ikwerre for in rivers state

Ijaw is fighting igbos too in abia

Ijaw is fighting akwa ibom too

The only thing saving you people is still Nigeria. Una end is near.

Nigercity:


Oga stop crying
No sane Igbo wants a republic with any ijaw miscreant (with there oyel mentality)
If there should be Biafra, it should be a strictly Igbo affairs excluding ikwerre nd Ika.
And come to think of it
I haven't seen any igbo man Dead or alive claiming Ijaw
But we have ijaw people like Asari, Hilda and co always claiming igbo in national TV
Even GEJ tired that shit to the extent of adopting Igbo names,

Your musicians that grow up in pH
The likes of preye odede, timaya and co
All sing with Igbo
But we all know that no sane Igbo man, can claim or sing with ijaw language
So Tell your people to stop attaching themselves to igbo..
And move on
Imagine
You folks after drinking your ogogooro and believing in your fantasy, coming online trying to claim lands from South East (Abia state) Ndoki.
Have you seen igbo man claiming any part o
f ijawland! Eh!?

no be for this post una claim Bonny, I don see person de claim Opobo, very soon una go claim Nembe.

so in your Biafra you'll be leaving in seclusion like N.Korea, surrounded by perceived enemies? to the North Fulani, to the south and East N.delta

you'll be spending all your money on defense, telling you children for generations unend about how you hate your neighbours.

you'll not import and export(since you're landlocked and you'll pass the territories of your perceived enemies) and even if they let you, the tariffs go long like stick.
you'll continue to be living in suspicion and fear.

that's your ultimate vision bah? your El dorado?

lebuhsi:


Shey una want Biafra because of "Fulanization agenda" now me as Niger Delta now, De come de see all this nonsense for SM no be "Ibgonisation agenda" be this? how is it any different?

when you get your Biafra, with all this alienation agenda, Ijaw people no go de inside?

Bro.. Most times is best to use logical reasoning over emotions.. You and i know for a fact that an igbo man can never subdue of force anybody against there will..
Igbo are diplomatic pple, who see reasons and always stand by the truth.
Where in your record have u heard of tussle between ijaws and igbos?

The alienation your talking about is the local consciousness that if biafra should come, it should only be a country of igbos and her territory. If any igboid group wants to go their own way so be it then. we'll wish them well. , other minority will also secure there domains.
Moreso an agreement will be reach on diplomatic reasons.. Thats all.

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=AdakaBoro8 post=100864028]igbo and fulani are brothers[/s]

This is why I hate you ijaw with passion changing narratives to suit you.

Ijaw is fighting Itsekiri for land in Delta state, ijaw is fighting Yoruba for land in ondo state,
Ijaw is fighting Bini people for land in Edo
Ijaw is fighting ikwerre for in rivers state

Ijaw is fighting igbos too in abia

Ijaw is fighting akwa ibom too

The only thing saving you people is still Nigeria. Una end is near.

Lolz
The like claiming territories especially cities
The have succeed in claiming yenagou
Just the other day I saw them claiming Lagos, pH now the are claiming part of Aba
Lolz..
Let umuaba catch them

lebuhsi:


no be for this post una claim Bonny, I don see person de claim Opobo, very soon una go claim Nembe.

so in your Biafra you'll be leaving in seclusion like N.Korea, surrounded by perceived enemies? to the North Fulani, to the south and East N.delta

you'll be spending all your money on defense, telling you children for generations unend about how you hate your neighbours.

you'll not import and export(since you're landlocked and you'll pass the territories of your perceived enemies) and even if they let you, the tariffs go long like stick.
you'll continue to be living in suspicion and fear.

that's your ultimate vision bah? your El dorado?

Lolz..
Landlocked kwa?
Remind me where is azumiri?
(The backyard of Aba)
Is it in ijawland?

irepnaija4eva:



Bro.. Most times is best to use logical reasoning over emotions.. You and i know for a fact that an igbo man can never subdue of force anybody against there will..
Igbo are diplomatic pple, who see reasons and always stand by the truth.
Where in your record have u heard of tussle between ijaws and igbos?

The alienation your talking about is the local consciousness that if biafra should come, it should only be a country of igbos and her territory. If any igboid group wants to go their own way so be it then. we'll wish them well. , other minority will also secure there domains.
Moreso an agreement will be reach on diplomatic reasons.. Thats all.

And I agree with you, but have you read through the first page? have you seen the hate and vileness there?

even Igboid groups like the ikwere would have no difficulties refusing to join Biafra, the last 2 governors of Rivers state are Iwerre, they have been no problem about that in Rivers state.
the Ikweres dominate the political scene of Rivers State and other Ethnic nationalities have no problem about that because they understand themselves, it's the same thing in Cross-River state, they are over 70 ethnicities in that State.
But never, not even once have you heard of any problem, because they understand themselves.

the Ikwerres, would not leave that arrangement, and come to were they'll be minority, sentiments aside.

Nigercity:

Lolz..
Landlocked kwa?
Remain me where is azumiri?
(The backyard of Aba)
Is it in ijawland?

the last time checked, all land that kissed the Atlanic is Niger Delta, abi I de look different map?

Nigercity:


Lolz
The like claiming territories especially cities
The have succeed in claiming yenagou
Just the other day I saw them claiming Lagos, pH now the are claiming part of Aba
Lolz..
Let umuaba catch them

the greatest error is for we to found ourselves with fulanigbos in thesame country... these two tribes migrate all the way from cameroon and niger/senegal to nigeria to drag lands.

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=AdakaBoro8 post=100863910]see what landlocked has turn u people to... landlockedness has turn igbo activists to total insane people.. fabricating a unfabricateble history.. twisting the untwistable history.. igbo activists having sleepless trying to shake IJAW rigid identity all bcux u want sea access.. mtchew. pls go try another lie. [/s]

Bayelsa state is the only recognize home of ijaw people with 8 local government.

u, cocaine don kukuma spoil yur brain sef.

lebuhsi:


the last time checked, all land that kissed the Atlanic is Niger Delta, abi I de look different map?

Lolz
Oga you seriously Skiped geography classes
That's why you imagination keeps
Telling you fake things
Like Ndoki is close to ijaw lolz..
And other funny stuff

Don't tell me
You don't Know azumiri
(The backyard of Aba)
Or you don't Know why ABIA is in nigerdelta
Now tell me
is there any land border between Akwa-ibom and River State!
Always be friendly with your maps before speaking trash,

Azumiri is even closer to the sea
Than pH port
School yourself with goggle map sir

lebuhsi:


And I agree with you, but have you read through the first page? have you seen the hate and vileness there?

even Igboid groups like the ikwere would have no difficulties refusing to join Biafra, the last 2 governors of Rivers state are Iwerre, they have been no problem about that in Rivers state.
the Ikweres dominate the political scene of Rivers State and other Ethnic nationalities have no problem about that because they understand themselves, it's the same thing in Cross-River state, they are over 70 ethnicities in that State.
But never, not even once have you heard of any problem, because they understand themselves.

the Ikwerres, would not leave that arrangement, and come to were they'll be minority, sentiments aside.

You don't use fews vile words of people online to conclude bro their input influences zero in the real out world..

The 2 governor you're talking about in the person of Amechi has on countless times declayed his igboness even went to challenge Goodluck Jonathan to speak the language , while on the other hand Gov wike declayed that his not igbo..

The fact is majority of igbos dont give a damn where the Ikwerre stands. Theres enough mutual respect between the two.

And mindyou, Ikwerre can never be a minority in the igbo clans..

lebuhsi:


"Na my land be this, no be you land"
person go bring out 17th century document from God knows where.
Na which person de do am for these streets?
why una de go de claim bonny Island?

If una bin want the land, Na Arochukwu for claim am, but they preferred to stay in the hinterland, una lose, rest.

dont mind ibo miscreants sent by cownu.. imagine claiming another tribe people by force.. these people can even drag with Jehovah for a ownership of heaven.. cocaine has damaged their brains..

Nigercity:


And you made no point
Just ranting, wailing and crying as usual
Counter my claims with your own fact
And stop being emotional,

All the pictures of ohanku, obiohia (all in Aba) being littered in Nairaland, where the called ijawland
No! They where all called Igbo land
And mind you these places are very popular in ABA
So try and go there and shout "this is ijawland"
And see the outcome

Just the other day your ijaw brother (Adakaboro8 and pHijo was trying to demarket Aba) but in another thread the will try to claim part of Aba
Funny enough the don't know that the slum part of Aba is ohanku and obiohia, which is rapidly undergoing changes,

dont just be ok with the land God gave u, keep claiming Ijaw lands..

[[s]quote author=AdakaBoro8 post=100867760]u, cocaine don kukuma spoil yur brain sef.[/quote][/s][s][/s]

Truth is bitter Mister man ijaw start and end in 8 local government of bayelsa state, full stop
I know that you people will soon claim Anioma as ijaw but that will be your end soon

Nigeria is the reason why everybody is keeping clam with your expansion mentality.

You have a lot of fight to fight once Nigeria break up, from Itsekiri to urhobo,Bini,Yoruba, ikwerre ,akwa ibom to igbo

AdakaBoro8:
dont just be ok with the land God gave u, keep claiming Ijaw lands..

Which ijaw land
Did you see me claiming any land in Bayelsa
Eh?
Rather it's you and your brothers
That are trying to claim land from The ABA part of Abia State,

Although I love the way your ijaw kings are trooping to Ndoki land worshipping there warrant Chief, shouting I am looking for my snr brother (abi "I am looking for my kings"

Stop land grabbing and embrace your tiny ijaw land

Nigercity:


Which ijaw land
Did you see me claiming any land in Bayelsa
Eh?
Rather it's you and your brothers
That are trying to claim land from The ABA part of Abia State,

Although I love the way your ijaw kings are trooping to Ndoki land worshipping there warrant Chief, shouting I am looking for my snr brother (abi "I am looking for my kings"

Stop land grabbing and embrace your tiny ijaw land

u people journey all way from cameroon to here dragging lands.. what a die hard people.

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=AdakaBoro8 post=100867760]u, cocaine don kukuma spoil yur brain sef.[/s][s][/s]

Truth is bitter Mister man ijaw start and end in 8 local government of bayelsa state, full stop
I know that you people will soon claim Anioma as ijaw but that will be your end soon

Nigeria is the reason why everybody is keeping clam with your expansion mentality.

You have a lot of fight to fight once Nigeria break up, from Itsekiri to urhobo,Bini,Yoruba, ikwerre ,akwa ibom to igbo

mtchew

AdakaBoro8:
u people journey all way from cameroon to here dragging lands.. what a die hard people.

Lolz...
Don't let me believe you are uneducated
Lolz
You guys always agure without fact nor truth
You just build a fiction based on hear say?
I have said it many times
Counter me with facts..

And just case you know Igbos didn't migrated from Cameron (maybe ibibbos did) not Igbos but you can still believe whatever you want, after all Cameron is more closer to Nigeria than you ijaw tribe that migrated from Ghana..

You guys don't even look like Nigerians, nor share the same cultural or facial looks like other southern Nigeria,
Your language is very far apart from the other southern groups,
And that's why ijaw land is mainly creeks, and occupation mainly fishing unlike the other southern groups that takes farming and trading as occupation..
So kindly go back to Ghana
Where you were rejected!
Lolz

OfoIgbo:


Haven't you noticed that Ijaws have territorial squabbles with every single neighboring ethnic group?

Ijaws would have been worse than Fulanis, if Ijaws had the Igbo population. We cannot also forget the ABANDONED PROPERTIES saga, which Ijaws spearheaded. Your land grabbing tendencies are well known.

You have land issues with Igbos, Yorubas, Urhobos, Itsekiriis, Binis. Haba!!!

Now Bonny which a neutral traceable entity recorded in the 1790s and published in 1830, claimed was first settled by Igbos, and that the ruling families were Igbos, Ijaws are trying to claim, using quack historians like Alagoa, and fake Igbo:sounding monikers on nairaland, to try and claim

no ibo has ever rule obobo.. obobo is an Ijaw city.

ChinenyeN

I don’t know who the OP (original poster) is, so I won’t offer up any opinions on them per se. But it’s possible you mean OP as in “original post” (the post itself). In that case, I can say a few things about it.

To begin with, I can’t say I disagree with the writer’s premise. Anyone who casually examines the ethno-linguistic history and traditions of origin in the area will find it near impossible to claim beyond a doubt that Ndoki and Bonny don’t have ancestral, non-slave, Igbo-speaking origins. So that part is agreeable. It’s just that a lot of what the writer says to support the premise in this write up is questionable.

Ok. I agree with you on this.

Truthfully, I think the original post is rather “Ijaw-phobic”, if I can use that term. The writing is so heavily anti-Ijaw that it ends up discrediting itself at times. If you dig even a little, the write up shows a lot of inconsistencies and even some outright wrong things.

The writer was debunking Ijaw rabidly Igbophobic narratives on Bonny so naturally should appear Ijawphobic too, since he is writing to discredit Ijaw falsehoods.

If this is limited to the Umueze clan, then I can understand where the writer may be coming from. One of the oral traditions in Umueze claims a long-winding history of migration from Benin or Central Delta, entering “Igboland” from the south and then cutting northeast towards Oguta, etc. However, Umueze has never claimed Oguta as its homeland. Even before this “Ijaw vs Igbo” saga started, the Umueze never mentioned Oguta as ancestral homeland. It’s always been either Benin or Central Delta Ijaw. The writer could possibly be making a supposition here that Ndoki (Umueze) are part of that set of Ndoni-Abo-Oguta communities near the Central Delta. It’s not a bad supposition. However it is not a claim that has ever been made by Ndoki people, not even in early intelligence reports.

Now this is my problem with you. In your bid to appear unbiased to neutrals you often derail into Igbophobic realms. There is never any part of Ndoki history that made mention of the people migrating from Central Delta Ijaw like you claimed. The Central Delta Ijaw Kolukuma claims has it's origin in Alagoa fabricated post civil war stories.
OP rationally deduced like many Ndoki people are currently doing that Ndoki people are probably of Oru Igbo stock as it's mostly Oru Igbos that have Benin origin stories and their migratory trail from a west to East direction makes sense when pinpointed to Oguta and surrounding Oru Igbos.

Now, if the writer is not limiting this to Umueze and is instead referring to all of Ndoki, then this would simply be wrong. Ndoki is not from Oguta. Their traditions do not trace them to Oguta.

I don't know about Oguta history of Ndoki, but I Know damn well that Ndoki has no precolonial history of originating from Central Delta Ijaw like you falsely claimed. That was Alagoa fabricated story that had been allowed to fester over the decades post civil war.

The writer got this wrong and ended up confusion themselves in the process. It is actually the ethnonym “Ogoni” (and not Ibani) that refers to a “guest” or a “stranger”, derived from the Ijaw word “igoni”.

I will look into this later.

OfoIgbo:


Haven't you noticed that Ijaws have territorial squabbles with every single neighboring ethnic group?

Ijaws would have been worse than Fulanis, if Ijaws had the Igbo population. We cannot also forget the ABANDONED PROPERTIES saga, which Ijaws spearheaded. Your land grabbing tendencies are well known.

You have land issues with Igbos, Yorubas, Urhobos, Itsekiriis, Binis. Haba!!!

Now Bonny which a neutral traceable entity recorded in the 1790s and published in 1830, claimed was first settled by Igbos, and that the ruling families were Igbos, Ijaws are trying to claim, using quack historians like Alagoa, and fake Igbo:sounding monikers on nairaland, to try and claim

Bonny was never and will never be a neutral space! Bonny has an important part of Ijaw history. Apart Boro who is from present day Bayelsa, one the most important proponents of Ijaw struggle against Igbo dominance and annexation of our communities was Chief Harold Dappa Biriye. An illustrious son of Bonny.

Stop blaming Alagoa, he did nothing. Ijaw people are not as ignorant as you Igbos are. They know their history.

The ruling family in Bonny were never Igbo. Igbo that got the first semblance of governance from the British cannot rule in the space of people who embassies in other parts of the world before colonialism.

Bonny's extended beyond Nigeria's present territory.

Nigeria is backward today because because the country was handed over to two group savages, the Igbo and the Fulani.

Groups like Kanuri, Ijaw, Urhobo, etc who were more exposed could have handled it better.

The Igbo has boundary disputes amongst themselves, with Northern Cross river, with Igala, Tiv, Idoma and Annang. You set flames of fire everywhere but you can't stand the heat.

Nigercity:


Lolz...
Don't let me believe you are uneducated
Lolz
You guys always agure without fact nor truth
You just build a fiction based on hear say?
I have said it many times
Counter me with facts..

And just case you know Igbos didn't migrated from Cameron (maybe ibibbos did) not Igbos but you can still believe whatever you want, after all Cameron is more closer to Nigeria than you ijaw tribe that migrated from Ghana..

You guys don't even look like Nigerians, nor share the same cultural or facial looks like other southern Nigeria,
Your language is very far apart from the other southern groups,
And that's why ijaw land is mainly creeks, and occupation mainly fishing unlike the other southern groups that takes farming and trading as occupation

igbo migrate from 3countries. cameroun was among..

Ijaw or Oru is the ancient tribe of africa.. Ijaw is different from others bcux God created us in his liking.. the tribe God love most is Ijaw.

AdakaBoro8:
igbo migrate from 3countries. cameroun was among..

Ijaw or Oru is the ancient tribe of africa.. Ijaw is different from others bcux God created us in his liking.. the tribe God love most is Ijaw.

This Yoruba man

Igboid:


This Yoruba man

yoruba are very noble people.. people that are proud of their tribe. so they will wallow so low like igbos to start imposting as another tribe on social media..

emini ijaw tobo 'o. Izon ba' Izon ba, izon keme.. Egbema ijaw tobo. from warri north LGA delta state.. proudly Ijaw son.. i am next next Boro.. soon una go hear

Nigercity:


Oga stop crying
No sane Igbo wants a republic with any ijaw miscreant (with there oyel mentality)
If there should be Biafra, it should be a strictly Igbo affairs excluding ikwerre nd Ika.
And come to think of it
I haven't seen any igbo man Dead or alive claiming Ijaw
But we have ijaw people like Asari, Hilda and co always claiming igbo in national TV
Even GEJ tired that shit to the extent of adopting Igbo names,

Your musicians that grow up in pH
The likes of preye odede, timaya and co
All sing with Igbo
But we all know that no sane Igbo man, can claim or sing with ijaw language
So Tell your people to stop attaching themselves to igbo..
And move on
Imagine
You folks after drinking your ogogooro and believing in your fantasy, coming online trying to claim lands from South East (Abia state) Ndoki.
Have you seen igbo man claiming any part of ijawland! Eh!?

but azikiwei is an Ijaw word na.. ebele is an Ijaw word... so what do u mean my man?

irepnaija4eva:



Bro.. Most times is best to use logical reasoning over emotions.. You and i know for a fact that an igbo man can never subdue of force anybody against there will..
Igbo are diplomatic pple, who see reasons and always stand by the truth.
Where in your record have u heard of tussle between ijaws and igbos?

The alienation your talking about is the local consciousness that if biafra should come, it should only be a country of igbos and her territory. If any igboid group wants to go their own way so be it then. we'll wish them well. , other minority will also secure there domains.
Moreso an agreement will be reach on diplomatic reasons.. Thats all.

igbo dont force people against their will??... make cownu hear u first.

OfoIgbo:


Haven't you noticed that Ijaws have territorial squabbles with every single neighboring ethnic group?

Ijaws would have been worse than Fulanis, if Ijaws had the Igbo population. We cannot also forget the ABANDONED PROPERTIES saga, which Ijaws spearheaded. Your land grabbing tendencies are well known.

You have land issues with Igbos, Yorubas, Urhobos, Itsekiriis, Binis. Haba!!!

Now Bonny which a neutral traceable entity recorded in the 1790s and published in 1830, claimed was first settled by Igbos, and that the ruling families were Igbos, Ijaws are trying to claim, using quack historians like Alagoa, and fake Igbo:sounding monikers on nairaland, to try and claim

Hehehehehehe

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=AdakaBoro8 post=100864028]igbo and fulani are brothers[/s]

This is why I hate you ijaw with passion changing narratives to suit you.

Ijaw is fighting Itsekiri for land in Delta state, ijaw is fighting Yoruba for land in ondo state,
Ijaw is fighting Bini people for land in Edo
Ijaw is fighting ikwerre for in rivers state

Ijaw is fighting igbos too in abia

Ijaw is fighting akwa ibom too

The only thing saving you people is still Nigeria. Una end is near.

You are just an illiterate.

Nigercity:


Lolz
The like claiming territories especially cities
The have succeed in claiming yenagou
Just the other day I saw them claiming Lagos, pH now the are claiming part of Aba
Lolz..
Let umuaba catch them

I'm tempted to engage you, but the question is : how sound are you?

Nigercity:


Lolz
Oga you seriously Skiped geography classes
That's why you imagination keeps
Telling you fake things
Like Ndoki is close to ijaw lolz..
And other funny stuff

Don't tell me
You don't Know azumiri
(The backyard of Aba)
Or you don't Know why ABIA is in nigerdelta
Now tell me
is there any land border between Akwa-ibom and River State!
Always be friendly with your maps before speaking trash,

Azumiri is even closer to the sea
Than pH port
School yourself with goggle map sir

Which Sea? Abia is part of the Oil Niger Delta and not the geographical Niger Delta.