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Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by chrisblack: 6:02pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
NoSentiment:I have read enough to understand both. Eg consumption of alcohol is not a crime in civil law, but frown against in Sharia law despite contradictions as to it's consumption. 1 Like |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by myobjective: 6:03pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
BeansAndBread: I'm a Yoruba Muslim and don't believe in the political sharia nonsense of northern Nigeria. Yoruba irrespective of religion needs to continuously live together, forging a future where science and development can be brought to eradicate poverty. The Yoruba will develop a secular nation devoid of any religious interference. We wouldn't allow the extremism of whatever faith to win. 2 Likes |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by myobjective: 6:09pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
chrisblack: This your analysis doesn't reflect the reality on the ground but the question is why does it matter what demography of follower of both religions is more? Who has carried out any census to determine what faith has the largest follower? Religion will continue to play the second fiddle in the life of the Yorubas no matter how hard extremist from both religions tries. I'm from a town with a predominantly Muslim population and will still have relatives that are Christians. Live and let live is the true Omoluabi ethos. Religions will always play second fiddle no matter how hard the Pentecostal churches and Salafist element tries. 1 Like |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by MrMaestro: 6:10pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
myobjective:Exactly. That other guy is clearly a Fulani muslim extremist posing as Yoruba. Most Yorubas have muslims, christians, traditional religions in their families. It is by nature that Yorubas don't impose religious rules on each other, or your own family will suffer from it. 1 Like |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by chrisblack: 6:14pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
myobjective:The reason we have such relative peace is because Sharia as not been introduced.We are seeing a dress rehearsal concerning the hijab situation in ilorin. Implent Sharia law in the southwest and see the age long omoluabi ethos shattered. Disprove my analysis if am wrong. The only thing you can argue about is likely the % |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by chrisblack: 6:15pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
myobjective:you have spoken well. Any Yoruba nation that will succeed will have to be a secular one. Anything short of that would never succeed. |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by myobjective: 6:16pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
MrMaestro: Don't mind him! That is their mode of Operandi. Yoruba are the most liberal group in Nigeria. I remembered how I was allowed to stay in a Redeemed family house despite being a Muslim. The only thing my fellow Yoruba Christian needed was the fact that I'm Yoruba. Even though I categorically told them that I wouldn't take part in their worship and praises. This event opened my eyes to Yoruba togetherness. Without that accommodation that year in PH I wouldn't be stranded when I went there for my NYSC. I will always take my Yoruba brother first before any group. My ethnicity is a better bond than any monotheist religion I may have been born into. 1 Like |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by chrisblack: 6:17pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
MrMaestro:Leave them the day they start that would be the beginning of another breaking away inside a breakaway. |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by MrMaestro: 6:20pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
chrisblack:yes but that's the case with everything. Christian law, ifa law, etc. Whenever you impose a religion on a country by law, it causes huge problems. The separation of church and state has already been an understood solution to avoid issues. The christian crusades killed people in the thousands in mideival europe. We see how many people sharia law has killed. The same could be said on indigenous religions if coded into state law. Whenever you impose any religious doctrine into law, a nation crumbles from within. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by myobjective: 6:20pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
chrisblack: I was born and still resides in the north. The Yoruba ethos of religious tolerance is more than that. I have a Christian sister whose daughter now resides with my mother. Her name is Esther. Her dad and mom are Christians buts since she has been living with more mother for years, she dressed in a big hijab and perform every act of worship of a Muslim. Both of her parents have no problem with her choices. Yorubas are that liberal. |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by MrMaestro: 6:24pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
myobjective:That's a fantastic story. Its a testament to the strength of Yoruba culture that SUPERCEDES any other culture or religion. It's the same reason why the black Brazilians STILL speak Yoruba and practice traditional Yoruba religion to this day, after 300+ yrs in a portuguese country and culture. The Yoruba togetherness/ culture can't be quelled by any other in the world. It is a fantastic trait that we should never lose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcbMyogu58 1 Like |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by OluomoJ: 6:52pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
Smh. With the way extremist yoruba Christians and Muslims are posturing already, seems the future of a united yoruba country may not be so bright afterall. It is as if they have submitted their brains to the alter of religious dogmatism and extremism. I am a Yoruba Christian man successfully married to a Yoruba Muslim woman for over 20yrs and blessed with 4 beautiful children without any issues whatsoever. But the crop of yoruba extremists from both religions are making me question the future harmony of the race, be it within Nigeria or as an independent country. We must never give religion too much power over our lives as a people, or else we are doomed as a people. Aboro lan so fun Omoluabi. 1 Like |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by chrisblack: 7:09pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
myobjective:once again ,you are wrong. Personal choices are different from collective institutionalization.That Esther chooses to perform ablution is her personal choice which Christianity respects . however it's not the case with Islam. A muslim who chooses to renounce Islam is termed an apostate. Which is frowned upon seriously ,mind you she is in the north. The core of our respective peace in Yoruba land is because we have always lived and cherished our secularism,that's is why you can have a Christian family member who wishes to take gulder or kasapreko drink without you bothering.its because no religion as been giving state backing. The day such happens ,we will start seeing the rift in the south west.ots common sense.let me give you an example. If your religion frowns against the use of alcohol ,and a law was instituted to reflect that.The ogun worshiper uses alcohol as part of it own religious activities and daily need.you have infringed on his Rights. I might decided to take alcohol for medicinal purposes,your religion is infringing ony right. Secularism is the best.Any country founded on religious basis would end up suppressing the rights of other. The yazzidi's were presecuted in Syria, also christians in Pakistani are suffering the same. All because they are the minority. Secularism separates the state from religion.laws are made for the common good other people not on religious considerations. If you give christians the opportunity to make laws they will ensure they make that which is favourable to them.likewise the Muslims or the traditionalist. They only way is to ensure a secular state deviod of religious sentiment 1 Like |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by chrisblack: 7:16pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
OluomoJ:You are very correct. For any success to be recorded ,Yoruba nation must be a secular state. The day they allow a religious edict would be the downfall of such .I have christians and Muslims in my family ,I can not envision enacting a law based on muslim basis or Christian one. What about the traditionalist who would want their own law that might be contrary to the other religions,who would Carter for them |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by OluomoJ: 7:44pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
chrisblack: Yes bro. Secular-based foundation that guarantees religious freedom is the only way forward for a Yoruba nation or else, wahala ma wa o. |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by BeansAndBread(m): 8:55pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
myobjective: What's wrong with you guys sef? Did I mention anything about Northern Nigeria? Yorùbá land had Shari'ah in the past before many areas in the North, we Muslims want Shari'ah to judge between our matters! Yoruba irrespective of religion needs to continuously live together, forging a future where science and development can be brought to eradicate poverty. Did I deny this? I only stated we need Shari'ah courts to judge our matters, how can issues of inheritance, divorce, waqf etc be judged by secular courts in our own land? The Yoruba will develop a secular nation devoid of any religious interference. We wouldn't allow the extremism of whatever faith to win. There's already extremism in Yorùbaland but Muslims like you are too blind to see, you always want to please the Christians and that's why they don't respect you or your rights. That's why they'll pull Hijab from the heads of your children outside school premises because they know we have odes that call themselves Yorùbá Muslims. How can you tell me, I can't judge by Shari'ah in my own land? You must be crazy! |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by BeansAndBread(m): 8:58pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
Omoodua007:The rate at which you yoruba Christians chunk out stats is mind-blowing, Ogun state is a slight majorly Muslims. Ijebus are majorly Muslims, egbas are split and aworis has slight Muslim majority. Ekiti and Ondo are majority Christian but Muslims would number around 30% if not more. The indigenes of Lagos aren't fairly split, they majority Muslims, 85% of traditional rulers and lawmakers are Muslims. Lagos has always had many Muslims even before colonial times, Lagos having Muslims doesn't mean there are no Christian indigenes! Apart from Ilorin that fought against missionary activities in Yorùbá land, Lagos was the next! |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by Omoodua007: 10:08pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
BeansAndBread: I will attach a list of Ogun monarchs here Bare in mind Oba sikkru is the first Muslim Ijebu Oba in a while his predecessor was a Christain As for Lagos I repeat under Tinubu there as been an over representation of Muslims in Lagos politics Simple The likes of Otedolas and the numerous Lagos Christian family are not well represented in Lagos politics Ifo HRH OBA SAMUEL ATANDA OLADIPUPO Ado-Odo/Ota Oba Adeyemi Abdulkabir Obalanlege Ijebu North Oba Sikiru Kayode Adetona Shagamu Oba Babatunde Adewale Ajayi Torungbuwa II Abeokuta South Oba Michael Aremu Adedotun Gbadebo CFR, Okukenu IV Obafemi-Owode Oba Michael Aremu Adedotun Gbadebo CFR, Okukenu IV Abeokuta North Oba Michael Aremu Adedotun Gbadebo CFR, Okukenu IV Egbado North Oba Kehinde Gbadewole Olugbenl Egbado South Oba Kehinde Gbadewole Olugbenl Ijebu Ode Oba Sikiru Kayode Adetona Ipokia Oba Yisa Adeniyi Olaniyan, Odogbolu Oba Adedeji Olusegun Onagoruwa Ikenne Oba Oluwayomi Ademola Odeneye Odeda Dr. Halid Adedayo Laloko Sobekun II, MFR, JP, Ijebu East Oba Sikiru Kayode Adetona Imeko Afon Oba Reuben AAlabi Adebayo Ogun Waterside Oba Olusegun Ogunye Ijebu North East Oba Sikiru Kayode Adetona Remo North Oba Babatunde Adewale Ajayi Ewekoro HRH OBA ABDUL-FATAI AKOREDE AKAMO Those are the kings in Ogun state and its Christain ! Egba is to Christianity what iwo is to Islam It’s called the GATEWAY state for a reason The gateway of Christianity and there’s a reason those churches HQ in Ogun state T. M. C Lagos 2,000,000 1,200,000 800,000 Ogun 5,000,000 1,750,000 3,250,000 Oyo 9,000,000 5,400,000 3,600,000 Osun 5,000,000 2,600,000 2,400,000 Kwara 2,800,000 1,960,000 840,000 Kogi 1,200,000 120,000 1,080,000 Ekiti 2,600,000 26,000 2,574,000 Ondo 5,000,000 250,000 4,750,000 32,600,000 13,306,000 19,294,000 Muslims in Ondo and Ekiti are not up to 30% that’s why a Christian Christian ticket will always win The Yoruba Christain majority status is powered by Ondo Ekiti and kogi who embrace Christianity 100% There are also loads of Muslim converts to Christianity Who have full Muslim parents If you take out kwara and kogi The distance is even worse It’s 61% Christians 39% Islam and the rest |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by Omoodua007: 10:10pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
BeansAndBread: Be rest assured any attempts to introduce shariah in Yoruba land will religiously divide the society in a way not seen before The Christian community has conceded to Muslim/Christian ticker and hijab in public spaces Pls let the Ilorin Fulanis allow a Yoruba emir Yorubas are not a 99% Muslim tribe so there’s no way in hell Shari’ah law will rain supreme Yoruba culture does not even support it I’m sure a lot of yoruba Muslims will say No to it |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by BeansAndBread(m): 10:18pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
Omoodua007:Some of you talk rubbish, don't claim victory on the Hijab issue because we now wear our Hijabs and even our women now wear niqab. If dem born una well, make una go commot am. The Ilorin saga, Muslim kids now wear hijab to that same school in case you don't, wake up from your slumber. Ilorin Fulanis didn't make the Emir, it was the Muslim community who came together to elect the Emir. Do you know the palace personal guards of the emir are Ijesha Muslims who volunteered to protect the Emir? Yorùbáland isn't 99% Muslim but there's a large Muslim population and we want Shari'ah for our affairs in our land. Shari'ah doesn't concern you, it is for Muslims and the Quran made that clear! |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by Omoodua007: 10:20pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
BeansAndBread: Your missing the point Ondo and Ekiti can afford to say no to hijab But they allowed it ! And it’s 99% Christians It’s concession since we believe we are one and I don’t think we want a society based of religious discrimination Yoruba christains are not in the business of policing what any adult chooses to wear It’s Muslims known for doing that As for Ilorin saga Towns like Iwo oyo have a Muslim majority and still select Yoruba Muslim Obas Are Ilorin Yorubas not worth enough to be emirs and it must be sultan a Fulani that will tell you who to rule you But send you to come and attack your Yoruba Christain counterparts |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by BeansAndBread(m): 10:25pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
Omoodua007:Load of crap, the Ijebus are majority Muslims and they even have an event after every big eid, egbas is slight Muslim majority. Notice I'm not giving figures, stop chunking our figures you can't back. Otedola family are Muslims, the father of Femi Otedola was one of the unfortunate Muslims who were made to convert to christianity before being educated. This is one of the wickedness Yorùbá Christians and missionaries perpetuated on the Muslims, requiring that we convert before we're educated. Today, other branches of the Otedola's are Muslims! The Christians in egba land are mostly descendants of returned slaves and they aren't much, I'm never said Ogun is overwhelming majority Muslim but it is a majority Muslim. The Ijebus accepted islam when many Chiefs such as Balogun Kuku embraced Islam, there's a large Muslim minority in Ekiti and Ondo States and that's why I cap it at 30%! |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by BeansAndBread(m): 10:30pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
Omoodua007: Let them try and deny our women Hijab first and you'd see what would happen! Yoruba christains are not in the business of policing what any adult chooses to wear It’s Muslims known for doing that That's why you pull Hijab from our children abi? Or you are always in our necks everytime concerning Hijabs? Oppressing Muslim kids and denying them their rights whilst claiming victims. It's sad Yorùbá Muslims are docile! As for Ilorin saga Nobody is attacking you, if that's the case, there wouldn't be peace in Yorùbaland. Ilorin is a Muslim town and there are people of different origins, albeit the majority are Yorùbá Muslims. They can play their politics anyhow they like, it concerns you. Some towns in Yorùbá land have single families becoming Oba and they relegate other families, it's none of your concern |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by Omoodua007: 10:30pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
BeansAndBread: All the ruling kings of egba are Christians Alake Ibara Tejuosho Even Amosun knows this hence the first Muslim governor to ever rule the state No amount of islam history can change the fact that Ogun is a Christian majority state Islam came first but Christianity took over r Barre in mind the converts to Christians are still Christians so Ogun is not majorly Muslim sorry Even the next governor after Abiodun will be a Christian Alake was already in Uk accepting bible lol
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Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by Omoodua007: 10:36pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
BeansAndBread: It’s only in Christian schools and private schools they enacted such laws because Muslims are known for demanding for the most and contributing the least If Ilorin Yoruba can play their politics the way they wish Then let Yoruba play there politics the way they wish amd stop disturbing us with Jihad Also why are indigenous Lagos Christian not properly represented in Lagos politics ? The Agbajes , Otedolas & co , Fernendez, Okoya Thomas , The Ojoras , The Georges, The Alakijas & Pedros despite majority of Lagos residents being Christians Are they not Yoruba enough |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by BeansAndBread(m): 7:57pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
Omoodua007:I agree with your assertions about Ogun State, however, it's not a majority Christian State. More like 50/50 |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by BeansAndBread(m): 8:09pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
Omoodua007: Una no get sense Wallāhi, and it's this that annoy me about Yorùbá Christians. Y'all are hypocrites, you claim we're one and the same yet you find ways to frustrate our lives, this same hypocrites that pull Hijab from Muslim kids are the same people that have Muslims in their families. Why not demand the Muslims in your family should stop wearing the Hijab? Those schools in Kwara are no Christian schools they are owned and funded by the state govt, and if it weren't for the peaceful nature and docility of Yorùbá Muslims, Ilorin would be in crisis by now. Ansarudeen in Ilorin has Christians students and never have the Muslims forced the Christians to wear the hijab, I challenge you to disprove me. This same Christians in Oyo, Osun and other Lagos fight our Hijabs in Public schools, they refused to register a sister for Jamb because she refused to remove her Hijab, another Yorùbá Christian removed the Hijab of kids outside the school premises after school hours and then embarrassed them on assembly grounds. This is the Christians that would now come to cry how Muslims are violent! If Ilorin Yoruba can play their politics the way they wish I told you, they can play their politics, it's not your concern. If Yorùbá Muslims come together and select a tapa or kannike, it's not your concern. In case you don't know, the kingmakers in Ilorin are 75% Yorùbás not Fulani or Gambari and they can choose to take charge anytime. Also why are indigenous Lagos Christian not properly represented in Lagos politics ? The original inhabitants of Lagos are Muslims, stop this rhetorics of being majority Christian. Yeebhoes and other tribes being around doesn't mean the Christians are more, if you wanna mention immigrants, I'd mention the northerners therein too. Those are wealthy families and they can choose to enter politics Many of these families are returned slaves! |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by OperationcowLeg: 8:16pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
Juliusmalema:96% of Osun State is Muslim Ah , lol, where did u get ur statistics from ? |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by Skillsnigeria: 8:41pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
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Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by Omoodua007: 8:43pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
BeansAndBread: Ojora , Ogboro & Agbeje are now a slave descendants What a wow and hot pot of lies As for the hijab lies im not even joining issue All I know is no Shari’ah in Yoruba land You don’t have the numbers to enforce it and you will have to deal with it Even in Lagos state with 86% Muslim law makers i dare Tinubu to declare Islamic holiday like they did in oyo and osun and you will see if it won’t end his reign in Lagos state There’s a reason he’s consistently mingles with pastors He knows LAGOs RESIDENTS are majority Christian |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by Omoodua007: 8:46pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
BeansAndBread: Stop deceiving it’s a Christian majority state Simple From Sagamu Even Ijebu has a major Christian population All the rich men in Ijebu are Christians Egba Shagamu There’s no state in Yoruba land with 80% Muslim population oyo and osun are not 80% Muslims Even kwara isn’t But there are 3 zones with 80% Christian population in Yoruba land and that’s a fact Ondo Ekiti and Kogi Deal with it |
Re: Sharia Will Be Allowed In Oduduwa Republic Says Igboho's Aide by Omoodua007: 8:51pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
myobjective: That’s how it should be ideally but MURIC is disturbing everyone Accusing Christians of discrimination Abusing Yorùbá Christian governors and using sentiments to attack them |
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