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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 10:08am On Apr 20, 2021
https://thesuperleague.com/press.html

I've just realised a few things.

Firstly its The Super League. Not the European Super League. That is a very important distinction because of the future of this Super League.

This will destroy UEFA competitions completely and Devalue the premier league and ultimately destroy domestic leagues.

The reason why is because these SL clubs have no reason to play their best players in the premier league anymore because if you're not winning the PL there's literally nothing in it for them. So they'll slowly start playing 2nd string players in the domestic leagues and then very soon get out all today because it wont be worth playing the domestic games if they get so much money playing the SL.

There is so much that this will change and definitely not for the better. UEFA have issues, lots of issues and require a reform but the SL will completely damage competition in the game.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:10am On Apr 20, 2021
adebayo201:


Arsenal fans are quite emotional though. They can take anything.

If those words are for Manchester United or Chelsea, I bet you one person go don start campaign for twitter or Instagram but you see arsenal ehn them go take am like that.

Even Atalanta dey yab Arsenal, like f**cking Atalanta... Omg cry angry cheesy cheesy
Lol... The thing is arsenal fans are fvcking divided, because of how the club is run and this translated to nonchalance from the fans. A club that will receive 5-0 and 6-1s weekly from their rivals and instead of them to buy correct player to correct the rot, they'll buy another 18yr old or inferior players to add salt to injury to arsenal fans pains. A club that's so contended with top 4 when it's obvious that a good signing or two will win you the league.

Arsenal's fans mouth are shut and it seems most clubs or people knows, so we're perceived as the easy target for attack grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:12am On Apr 20, 2021
Joezinho:


Bro, I thought Klopp was going to be against the ESL, and it was a perfect opportunity for him to make his stand in that interview last night.

Instead he was slagging off Neville and calling the owners good people.. Why defend them?

Isn't it shitty that these money-grabbing arsehole club owners have thrown all the players and managers under the bus?

Fraction disappointed in Klopp for not saying more, publicly, their disdain for this ESL. It’s gonna need a club, manager or owner from one of these clubs to make a real STAND.
I think klopp was against the Super league. He spoke against it yesterday, but he spoke it diplomatically so as not to anger his employers.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 10:23am On Apr 20, 2021
Joezinho:


Arsenal’s balance sheets are abysmal and getting worse. They were heading on a road to administration in the current format. Arsenal & Tottenham especially need the ESL to maintain relevance both reputation wise & financially. No wonder they are excited about it.

But honestly the introduction of the ESL has really shown me how much the footballing world do not rate Arsenal or Tottenham.. cheesy Mou had no business picking up that cursed spurs job in the first place..

As for the ESL, if they want the ESL, let them have it. But they must be kicked out of domestic leagues, UEFA competition, FIFA comps. Football is huge. European football will survive and ultimately flourish regardless of losing 12 teams.
Well said
@ bolded, you just had to put mou in there grin cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 10:30am On Apr 20, 2021
If mou was actually sacked because of their ESL, won't he have spoken since, like the mou we all know.

Baba dey disguise, make them pay am off finish cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:33am On Apr 20, 2021
Joezinho:


Klopp is angry, understandably so, but lashing out at Neville isn’t the answer here. Neville’s done nothing but spout absolute facts for two days since this was leaked.

He's picking a petty fight with Neville instead on focusing on the bigger issues. The entire footballing landscape is being brought into disrepute but his message is don't talk about our anthem..

Klopp and LFC needs to realise that rivalry means nothing right now.
But Neville spits too much shit atimes. I get Klopp was angry at the late equalizer yesterday and he's a sore loser but them Neville should take it easy and stop acting like saviours.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 12:21pm On Apr 20, 2021
Joezinho:


Arsenal’s balance sheets are abysmal and getting worse. They were heading on a road to administration in the current format. Arsenal & Tottenham especially need the ESL to maintain relevance both reputation wise & financially. No wonder they are excited about it.

But honestly the introduction of the ESL has really shown me how much the footballing world do not rate Arsenal or Tottenham.. cheesy Mou had no business picking up that cursed spurs job in the first place..

As for the ESL, if they want the ESL, let them have it. But they must be kicked out of domestic leagues, UEFA competition, FIFA comps. Football is huge. European football will survive and ultimately flourish regardless of losing 12 teams.
And you believe EPL will survive without this big teams? Why do you think skysports and the rest pay billions of pounds for TV right, shey na to show Fulham vs Aston Villa and those Lower team matches every week? The fans and TV viewers preference determine where the money goes, and the ESL is like a special competition outside the regular Uefa competition. The participating clubs are not pulling out of any FA or Uefa competition, they just created this new competition to help them raise money to keep them solvent. Na Uefa dey raise dust cos they know that major football sponsors and worldwide viewers, will shift attention to the ESL due of the clubs and players involve. All parties need to sit down and discuss a way forward, Florentino Perez said their is no backing out on this deal......
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 12:53pm On Apr 20, 2021
I like how Klopp put that silly rumour about him resigning to bed in his press conference.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:15pm On Apr 20, 2021
afrodoc:


LOL. Your Amaka hate is not allowing you to analyze the situation properly. Let me break it down to you iller.

With a guaranteed position in the money spinning Super League the Glazers will never be interested in firing Amaka. There is no incentive to win the EPL title when winning it or making Top 4 is no longer a prerequisite for making the Champions League.

Whether United comes 2nd or comes 12th the money from the Super League is guaranteed. No matter how badly Amaka performs, at the end of the season the Glazers are sure of making more money next season.............which is all they want.

This Super League actually guarantees Amaka a long and secure tenure at Old Trafford.
But they'll be more incentive for the team winning it. Are you saying that extra £200 - £250m isn't enough to get clubs scrambling to win it?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 1:24pm On Apr 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
But they'll be more incentive for the team winning it. Are you saying that extra £200 - £250m isn't enough to get clubs scrambling to win it?

Why? The premier league will not be able to command that money anymore. Those SuperLeague teams will no longer field their best players in domestic matches. They'll treat it like the Carabao cup because who would want to pay for a watered down product?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:30pm On Apr 20, 2021
MRTA7:


Why? The premier league will not be able to command that money anymore. Those SuperLeague teams will no longer field their best players in domestic matches. They'll treat it like the Carabao cup because who would want to pay for a watered down product?
I'm talking about the SL and not domestic leagues.

I think the winners of the SL will get at least twice or thrice what the UCL winner gets now away from their participating bonus thus I don't see the Glazers keeping a coach that won't get them the trophy that comes with some mouth watering cash.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 1:38pm On Apr 20, 2021
Jodera:
To me I'm even surprised. Like where is the beef and hate coming from? Granted we've been on a downward spiral in recent years but weren't Ac Milan on worse form, inter too? Like are they just looking at arsenal cos they expected more or what?

grin cheesy. Someone said when arsenal and tottenham play in ESL, it won't be called as North London Derby. It will be called as the Battle of Imposters.. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 1:43pm On Apr 20, 2021
TrebleChamp:
And you believe EPL will survive without this big teams? Why do you think skysports and the rest pay billions of pounds for TV right, shey na to show Fulham vs Aston Villa and those Lower team matches every week? The fans and TV viewers preference determine where the money goes, and the ESL is like a special competition outside the regular Uefa competition. The participating clubs are not pulling out of any FA or Uefa competition, they just created this new competition to help them raise money to keep them solvent. Na Uefa dey raise dust cos they know that major football sponsors and worldwide viewers, will shift attention to the ESL due of the clubs and players involve. All parties need to sit down and discuss a way forward, Florentino Perez said their is no backing out on this deal......

Give the ESL one season and it’ll be useless. Seeing all these teams play in that competition won’t have the hype it once had. Why the hell would I be excited seeing Tottenham and Arsenal getting whooped 5-0 every match day?

Funny you are saying that the EPL will be over. cheesy

Who's to say these players want to play in the ESL, who's to say the EPL won't survive? If you enjoy football you watch it for the enjoyment not who the biggest money makers are.

EPL will survive but the clubs who join the ESL won't, not in their current form anyway. Bottom line is they are being taken out of the PL and CL to play in a money making, meaningless exhibition league. EPL and UEFA won't allow them to play in their competitions.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:46pm On Apr 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
I'm talking about the SL and not domestic leagues.

I think the winners of the SL will get at least twice or thrice what the UCL winner gets now away from their participating bonus thus I don't see the Glazers keeping a coach that won't get them the trophy that comes with some mouth watering cash.

Being a member alone makes the team more money than that of the UCL winner. Finishing 4th or 10th doesn’t matter, as minimum pay is higher than maximum UCL pay.

The Glazers were initially bothered about the club losing out on UCL football because of the financial perks that come with it.

Now, without effort, those perks and even more are guaranteed. Winning the super league becomes more of a bragging rights thing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 1:47pm On Apr 20, 2021
handelex:
But Neville spits too much shit atimes. I get Klopp was angry at the late equalizer yesterday and he's a sore loser but them Neville should take it easy and stop acting like saviours.


Klopp should have been railing against the ESL, not shirts. He kopped out. He could've made a loud, clear statement but didn't..

He didn't speak up for football, all he did was moan about shirts and Neville.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 1:47pm On Apr 20, 2021
KingAlabi:

Well said
@ bolded, you just had to put mou in there grin cheesy

Mou na my man na grin cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 1:48pm On Apr 20, 2021
Jodera:
I think klopp was against the Super league. He spoke against it yesterday, but he spoke it diplomatically so as not to anger his employers.

He could've made a loud, clear statement but didn't. (Let's face it, he's richer than rich and will never be short of a job.)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 1:56pm On Apr 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
I'm talking about the SL and not domestic leagues.

I think the winners of the SL will get at least twice or thrice what the UCL winner gets now away from their participating bonus thus I don't see the Glazers keeping a coach that won't get them the trophy that comes with some mouth watering cash.

Ultimately winning the SL trophy wont matter because the tournament is owned by the big 6 clubs so they all get paid regardless. So they wont let just the winning team enjoy the money. The Glazers never cared about trophies, They care about making money.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by monerozi5590: 1:57pm On Apr 20, 2021
Joezinho:


Give the ESL one season and it’ll be useless. Seeing all these teams play in that competition won’t have the hype it once had. Why the hell would I be excited seeing Tottenham and Arsenal getting whooped 5-0 every match day?

Funny you are saying that the EPL will be over. cheesy

Who's to say these players want to play in the ESL, who's to say the EPL won't survive? If you enjoy football you watch it for the enjoyment not who the biggest money makers are.

EPL will survive but the clubs who join the ESL won't, not in their current form anyway. Bottom line is they are being taken out of the PL and CL to play in a money making, meaningless exhibition league. EPL and UEFA won't allow them to play in their competitions.


Super League is nonsense..it doesn't make sense at all

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 1:58pm On Apr 20, 2021
Joezinho:


He could've made a loud, clear statement but didn't. (Let's face it, he's richer than rich and will never be short of a job.)

Why should Klopp or any coach in the Super 12 speak against it?

When there was a total lockdown last year, did Klopp accept a pay cut? Wasn't his wages paid in full?

How much has Liverpool made in ticket sales since last year? Nothing meaningful

How many players in the Super 12 teams accepted a pay cut even till now? None that I know of.

I strongly doubt if any coach or player in the Super 12 would condemn it.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 2:02pm On Apr 20, 2021
izzou:


Why should Klopp or any coach in the Super 12 speak against it?

When there was a total lockdown last year, did Klopp accept a pay cut? Wasn't his wages paid in full?

How much has Liverpool made in ticket sales since last year? Nothing meaningful

How many players in the Super 12 teams accepted a pay cut even till now? None that I know of.

I strongly doubt if any coach or player in the Super 12 would condemn it.

Pep has spoken out against it. He's obviously not going to quit but he has atleast said he's not happy with it.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384487336122232833?s=20
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 2:03pm On Apr 20, 2021
Expert17:


cheesy cheesy

He stabilized the cup

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 2:05pm On Apr 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
But they'll be more incentive for the team winning it. Are you saying that extra £200 - £250m isn't enough to get clubs scrambling to win it?

Bros, even with 500m, amaka won't get to the finals. Even if he is playing against a Arsenal side parading willian, martelleni and retired Silvestre in the semis, he's still gonna bottle it.

It's in his DNA.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:05pm On Apr 20, 2021
GloryIsaac:


Being a member alone makes the team more money than that of the UCL winner. Finishing 4th or 10th doesn’t matter, as minimum pay is higher than maximum UCL pay.

The Glazers were initially bothered about the club losing out on UCL football because of the financial perks that come with it.

Now, without effort, those perks and even more are guaranteed. Winning the super league becomes more of a bragging rights thing.
Are you saying all the teams that participate will earn the same amount?

From information I have perused through, clubs will get a certain amount for participating in the SL and the winner will definitely get an additional cash which will double or close to triple that which the UCL offers presently...What I am saying is that the extra 200-300m that comes with winning the trophy is worth fighting for unless you tell me that all the participating team will earn the same amount...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 2:05pm On Apr 20, 2021
izzou:


Why should Klopp or any coach in the Super 12 speak against it?

When there was a total lockdown last year, did Klopp accept a pay cut? Wasn't his wages paid in full?

How much has Liverpool made in ticket sales since last year? Nothing meaningful

How many players in the Super 12 teams accepted a pay cut even till now? None that I know of.

I strongly doubt if any coach or player in the Super 12 would condemn it.

And you think football is all about the management?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 2:07pm On Apr 20, 2021
MRTA7:


Pep has spoken out against it. He's obviously not going to quit but he has atleast said he's not happy with it.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384487336122232833?s=20

Pep said "It's not fair"

Everyone knows it isn't. But speaking strongly against it? I don't think any of them would do that.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 2:09pm On Apr 20, 2021
monerozi5590:



Super League is nonsense..it doesn't make sense at all

It is utter nonsense. People are screaming and kicking because this is our sport and we don’t want this changed. If the ESL final has a super bowl format I simply won’t watch at all. 30 mins of football, 1 hour break and so on. Would be a joke.

It’s the American cretins at Man United pushing for the ESL, with Joel fvcking Glazer running the league. Which is a nonsense league with no relegation and play offs to determine the winner. Bleep that MLS shiit.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 2:10pm On Apr 20, 2021
Joezinho:


And you think football is all about the management?

What I think as a fan is different from what the Glaziers think as an owner.

Do you know how much it costs these guys to thrill us every weekend? Despite the fact that ticket sales have vanished?

Football means different things to different people. Only the club owners know where's it's pinching them
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 2:12pm On Apr 20, 2021
Nezzjnr:

Bros u still dey Festi?? angry angry


Was not in Lagos.

Would be coming back tomorrow.

Where you dey?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 2:13pm On Apr 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
Are you saying all the teams that participate will earn the same amount?

From information I have perused through, clubs will get a certain amount for participating in the SL and the winner will definitely get an additional cash which will double or close to triple that which the UCL offers presently...What I am saying is that the extra 200-300m that comes with winning the trophy is worth fighting for unless you tell me that all the participating team will earn the same amount...

Of course it wont be exactly the same amount. But the difference wont be that much because the competition is literally owned by those founding 12 teams.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 2:19pm On Apr 20, 2021
izzou:


What I think as a fan is different from what the Glaziers think as an owner.

Do you know how much it costs these guys to thrill us every weekend? Despite the fact that ticket sales have vanished?

Football means different things to different people. Only the club owners know where's it's pinching them

Thrill us every week? cheesy oh pleaseee.

Do you also know how much those fvcktards make daily? The americans are trying to ruin the beautiful game...

The day the PL and the FA let the Glazers buy Man Utd without using their own money, they let the foxes into the chicken coup. The slide to ESL had already started by then, but that’s what accelerated it. It’s just a money game to these Americans, results don’t matter.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 2:23pm On Apr 20, 2021
izzou:


What I think as a fan is different from what the Glaziers think as an owner.

Do you know how much it costs these guys to thrill us every weekend? Despite the fact that ticket sales have vanished?

Football means different things to different people. Only the club owners know where's it's pinching them

Club owners know where it is pinching them?

If you're referring to City and Chelsea, you have a point. They dont need the Super League. They have joined it because they want to play with the big boys. This was the brain child of the Americans and Perez. None of those guys are spending their own money.

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