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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 1:39pm On Apr 20, 2021
bro, this is politics, end of they day they will bribe him with their support. but to say he can not? fvk yea he can. question is, is he willing to face the consequence. its still a sovereign nation.
Not saying it's as simple as I'm putting it. but if he want them out, he can ask them to leave, its their right, and when this blows all over the world, france gets labeled a colonizer and downhill it goes from there. lots of these countries try to protect their image, that's why backroom deals happen, without the general public knowing what's going on

kabe1:


Lol, he cannot.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 1:46pm On Apr 20, 2021
the nigeria army have been deployed to chad border. do you think what i am thinking. i am suspecting france for the death of debby
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 1:49pm On Apr 20, 2021
if there's a need to intervene in chad, we can go thru the AU, its all about audacity and actually having a spine, clarify your objectives and reasons for such deployment. if the AU and Ecowas approves deployment into chad, with the support of the chadian Govt, , France can not stop it. this is the problem black people keep having, we put ourselves down and put these westerners on a pedestal. call their bluff, as long as you aren't committing atrocities, there's nothing france or the west can do to stop such deployment. All they need is an excuse, take that away from them by doing things right, and their opinion become irrelevant.
you wouldn't know until you try.
Our problem in Sub-Saharan Africa is our lack of assertiveness. what a shame.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 1:50pm On Apr 20, 2021
It's really funny because just this morning, I was talking to someone about how foreign interest(The US and France) choose political stability over democracy, especially in Francophone countries, and how democratisation Should be a long term process as opposed to a short term one especially in countries with histories of autocracy.

Deby's son, Zakaria certain doesn't have the support his father had, and Militias and Jihadis would be certain to exploit this vacuum, we have a Libya situation on our hands guys.

Expect Zakaria in Abuja in the coming weeks and months.

Defence agencies should certainly be on the toes at the moment.

The current Director-General of the NIA was stationed in Chad before he was recalled to head the agency, so he has background knowledge and experience.

Tumultous times ahead.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 1:53pm On Apr 20, 2021
Sizzorkay:
bro, this is politics, end of they day they will bribe him with their support. but to say he can not? fvk yea he can. question is, is he willing to face the consequence. its still a sovereign nation.
Not saying it's as simple as I'm putting it. but if he want them out, he can ask them to leave, its their right, and when this blows all over the world, france gets labeled a colonizer and downhill it goes from there. lots of these countries try to protect their image, that's why backroom deals happen, without the general public knowing what's going on


Brother, let's call a spade, a spade.

Chad is not a sovereign nation, we need to get this first.

France militarily intervened in Chad since the war with Nigeria, Libya, and the rebels that have come before these.

Politically speaking, not even a miracle will save Chad from the firm grip of France.

First, Chad is one of the poorest countries in the world.

Chad has one of the world's worst illiteracy rates.

Chad is not rich in valuable minerals.

Chad is a strategic military/security buffer for France.

What you're saying is similar to asking the UK to leave the Falklands, Gibraltar, or Russia leaving Crimea or America leaving Hawaii or Alaska.

It's just not possible.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 1:56pm On Apr 20, 2021
Nah. they choose their self interest over democracy. All day, everyday.
These fvkers are nothing but hypocrites?
china vs Cuba comes to mind.
Or Saudi Arabia. The coup in Egypt etc. Nigeria need a backer. if not for Russia (yes they have their own interest too) Assad would be dead or in prison by now. Had Assad been their Ally on the other hand, they would support him, they will look the other way once they get a base on Syrian soil cheesy

lebuhsi:
It's really funny because just this morning, I was talking to someone about how foreign interest(The US and France) choose political stability over democracy, especially in Francophone countries, and how democratisation Should be a long term process as opposed to a short term one especially in countries with histories of autocracy.

Deby's son, Zakaria certain doesn't have the support his father had, and Militias and Jihadis would be certain to exploit this vacuum, we have a Libya situation on our hands guys.

Expect Zakaria in Abuja in the coming weeks and months.

Defence agencies should certainly be on the toes at the moment.

The current Director-General of the NIA was stationed in Chad before he was recalled to head the agency, so he has background knowledge and experience.

Tumultous times ahead.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 1:57pm On Apr 20, 2021
Sizzorkay:
bro, this is politics, end of they day they will bribe him with their support. but to say he can not? fvk yea he can. question is, is he willing to face the consequence. its still a sovereign nation.
Not saying it's as simple as I'm putting it. but if he want them out, he can ask them to leave, its their right, and when this blows all over the world, france gets labeled a colonizer and downhill it goes from there. lots of these countries try to protect their image, that's why backroom deals happen, without the general public knowing what's going on


I hope you know they can easily remove him from power through his own soldiers
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 1:57pm On Apr 20, 2021
Sizzorkay:
if there's a need to intervene in chad, we can go thru the AU, its all about audacity and actually having a spine, clarify your objectives and reasons for such deployment. if the AU and Ecowas approves deployment into chad, with the support of the chadian Govt, , France can not stop it. this is the problem black people keep having, we put ourselves down and put these westerners on a pedestal. call their bluff, as long as you aren't committing atrocities, there's nothing france or the west can do to stop such deployment. All they need is an excuse, take that away from them by doing things right, and their opinion become irrelevant.
you wouldn't know until you try.
Our problem in Sub-Saharan Africa is our lack of assertiveness. what a shame.

The AU that couldn't deploy in Mali to fight terrorists.

There is no amount of assertiveness that can replace capacity and structural integrity.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 1:59pm On Apr 20, 2021
Whyem15:


Just imagine how things would have been if we had been arming and developing the military since 1999...... This is how the foolishness of few alters the destiny of multitudes. We are still making several mistakes in several aspects that we haven't started suffering the consequences.

I always imagine, but the deed has been done and we just have to keep looking forward to a better future.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 2:00pm On Apr 20, 2021
Sizzorkay:
Yup. dead. the man often go to hot zones, admirable, but reckless. Now his 37yr old son will take over, why the fvk is that. A four star general haha. guess they might have him there for another 30yrs too. smh
Africa

I pray Gov. Zulum learns from this

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:02pm On Apr 20, 2021
Like i stated, not as simple as i put it. sure they could, which is why he wouldn't just sit on a throne all relaxed. loyalty can be bought, he would have lots of work to do to stay in power in my hypothetical scenario.



youghs:


I hope you know they can easily remove him from power through his own soldiers
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:03pm On Apr 20, 2021
Right? it only take one opportunity. And that leader is gone.


youghs:


I pray Gov. Zulum learns from this

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:04pm On Apr 20, 2021
That's your opinion. All good
talking about capacity and structural integrity. Haven't such deployment happen before? smh. we act like when it comes down to it we wouldn't do the needful. so what if there was no france, we fold our arms and allow terrorists run amock? the capacity is there, the will isn't.
And i don't recall saying the AU should deploy soldiers. I was talking about authorization for ecowas deployment into chad.


kabe1:


The AU that couldn't deploy in Mali to fight terrorists.

There is no amount of assertiveness that can replace capacity and structural integrity.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:06pm On Apr 20, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
the nigeria army have been deployed to chad border. do you think what i am thinking. i am suspecting france for the death of debby

Where exactly? This looks like an assumption cool

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 2:06pm On Apr 20, 2021
youghs:


I pray Gov. Zulum learns from this
Tah, I doubt it was "hot zone" that killed him abeg
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Litmus: 2:09pm On Apr 20, 2021
kabe1:


Brother, let's call a spade, a spade.

Chad is not a sovereign nation, we need to get this first.

France militarily intervened in Chad since the war with Nigeria, Libya, and the rebels that have come before these.

Politically speaking, not even a miracle will save Chad from the firm grip of France.

First, Chad is one of the poorest countries in the world.

Chad has one of the world's worst illiteracy rates.

Chad is not rich in valuable minerals.

Chad is a strategic military/security buffer for France.

What you're saying is similar to asking the UK to leave the Falklands, Gibraltar, or Russia leaving Crimea or America leaving Hawaii or Alaska.

It's just not possible.

He is essentially arguing for Chadians to assert themselves over France's colonial control perhaps with the aid of AU.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 2:11pm On Apr 20, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:


Where exactly? This looks like an assumption cool
NO. the cds ordered 7 infantry division to deployed is men to chad border . although no much detail. credible intel
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:11pm On Apr 20, 2021
Well now they can say he died a hero, for Chad.
wouldn't it be nice if these weaklings who call themselves leaders actually lead battles, we'd have fewer wars grin


Odunayaw:
Tah, I doubt it was "hot zone" that killed him abeg
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:13pm On Apr 20, 2021
There you go. it's all about the messaging. lobby chinese vocal support, Russia etc, there's literally nothing france can do to overide the entire wishes of a continent and support from some other big countries. messaging matters, and showing the capacity to get the job done is also critical such scenario. France isn't some all powerful entity. There are limits, and the world still have rules that Govern it

Litmus:


He is essentially arguing for Chadians to assert themselves over France's colonial control perhaps with the aid of AU.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:26pm On Apr 20, 2021
You are now saying Chad is a colony and not independent? okay.
comparing crimea/Russia or US /Alaska. these are different scenarios. Alaska was purchased, the crimea and the soviets have their own history.
I didnt know chad share border with france, or darn, how did African countries managed to gain their independence fro. the all powerful West.
don't fall for mirage and take control of your own destiny. until we do that, we will keep kneeling in front of these fools. There are countries and leaders that went against the west and survived it. its nothing new. The consequences might be dire, but atleast they aren't beholden to any foreign power.
you belittle the strength of the continent because you have no faith in it, france is movable, so chad is poor, and that's an excuse for subjugation? its their land, their independent territory. Not France's. sentiments or not.
I don't know much about military stuff, but politics and optics, i know quite a bit. Compare Assad to Ghadafi, one was calm and collected, the other was insane, to the point of threatening to level tripoli than to see it fall. That was a critical error he made in his messaging and the West used that against him. oh he's about to kill everyone in tripoli, he has to be stopped. Gotta control your messaging and temperament

kabe1:


Brother, let's call a spade, a spade.

Chad is not a sovereign nation, we need to get this first.

France militarily intervened in Chad since the war with Nigeria, Libya, and the rebels that have come before these.

Politically speaking, not even a miracle will save Chad from the firm grip of France.

First, Chad is one of the poorest countries in the world.

Chad has one of the world's worst illiteracy rates.

Chad is not rich in valuable minerals.

Chad is a strategic military/security buffer for France.

What you're saying is similar to asking the UK to leave the Falklands, Gibraltar, or Russia leaving Crimea or America leaving Hawaii or Alaska.

It's just not possible.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:26pm On Apr 20, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
NO. the cds ordered 7 infantry division to deployed is men to chad border . although no much detail. credible intel

But we have always had military presence in some of this border stretch. Does he mean additional soldiers or soldiers are going instantly to dig a new trench in Lake Chad.

Baba Soldiers cannot be deployed to new location here in 24hours. No be Lagos oooooooooooh

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:28pm On Apr 20, 2021
Sizzorkay:
Well now they can say he died a hero, for Chad.
wouldn't it be nice if these weaklings who call themselves leaders actually lead battles, we'd have fewer wars grin




You wan send Buhari go frontline? grin grin Please we only need UK visits cool

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:32pm On Apr 20, 2021
this man almost killed me with laughter lol. hahaha. oh man.
if i be president, na that kind responsibility i go delegate to my VP lol


SamuelAnyawu:



You wan send Buhari go frontline? grin grin Please we only need UK visits cool
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 2:36pm On Apr 20, 2021
Sizzorkay:
this man almost killed me with laughter lol. hahaha. oh man.
if i be president, na that kind responsibility i go delegate to my VP lol


why you no go ?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 2:37pm On Apr 20, 2021
Odunayaw:
Tah, I doubt it was "hot zone" that killed him abeg

As if you know my mind.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:37pm On Apr 20, 2021
See this one. Na you elect me into office? why i go go haha
But be a brother, you go in my stead. my prayers are with you



JOSCOFELIX:
why you no go ?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 2:39pm On Apr 20, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:


But we have always had military presence in some of this border stretch. Does he mean additional soldiers or soldiers are going instantly to dig a new trench in Lake Chad.

Baba Soldiers cannot be deployed to new location here in 24hours. No be Lagos oooooooooooh
baba me have no knowledge about their deployment na intel where i get i share. but nigeria military have base close to chad
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 2:42pm On Apr 20, 2021
Sizzorkay:
See this one. Na you elect me into office? why i go go haha



if you deputy face wetin zulum face he go regin set trap for you
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 2:47pm On Apr 20, 2021
Sizzorkay:
Well now they can say he died a hero, for Chad.
wouldn't it be nice if these weaklings who call themselves leaders actually lead battles, we'd have fewer wars grin


In sane countries, the military will take flak for such a death. Imagine if it were Bush in the middle east
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:50pm On Apr 20, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
baba me have no knowledge about their deployment na intel where i get i share. but nigeria military have base close to chad

Yes we have bases in all those stretch. Reason I felt it’s just additional troops
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:51pm On Apr 20, 2021
Right? it's being treated like say na some rebel leader died lol. shoot.


Odunayaw:
In sane countries, the military will take flak for such a death. Imagine if it were Bush in the middle east

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