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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 1:39pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
bro, this is politics, end of they day they will bribe him with their support. but to say he can not? fvk yea he can. question is, is he willing to face the consequence. its still a sovereign nation. Not saying it's as simple as I'm putting it. but if he want them out, he can ask them to leave, its their right, and when this blows all over the world, france gets labeled a colonizer and downhill it goes from there. lots of these countries try to protect their image, that's why backroom deals happen, without the general public knowing what's going on kabe1: |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 1:46pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
the nigeria army have been deployed to chad border. do you think what i am thinking. i am suspecting france for the death of debby |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 1:49pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
if there's a need to intervene in chad, we can go thru the AU, its all about audacity and actually having a spine, clarify your objectives and reasons for such deployment. if the AU and Ecowas approves deployment into chad, with the support of the chadian Govt, , France can not stop it. this is the problem black people keep having, we put ourselves down and put these westerners on a pedestal. call their bluff, as long as you aren't committing atrocities, there's nothing france or the west can do to stop such deployment. All they need is an excuse, take that away from them by doing things right, and their opinion become irrelevant. you wouldn't know until you try. Our problem in Sub-Saharan Africa is our lack of assertiveness. what a shame. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 1:50pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
It's really funny because just this morning, I was talking to someone about how foreign interest(The US and France) choose political stability over democracy, especially in Francophone countries, and how democratisation Should be a long term process as opposed to a short term one especially in countries with histories of autocracy. Deby's son, Zakaria certain doesn't have the support his father had, and Militias and Jihadis would be certain to exploit this vacuum, we have a Libya situation on our hands guys. Expect Zakaria in Abuja in the coming weeks and months. Defence agencies should certainly be on the toes at the moment. The current Director-General of the NIA was stationed in Chad before he was recalled to head the agency, so he has background knowledge and experience. Tumultous times ahead. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 1:53pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Sizzorkay: Brother, let's call a spade, a spade. Chad is not a sovereign nation, we need to get this first. France militarily intervened in Chad since the war with Nigeria, Libya, and the rebels that have come before these. Politically speaking, not even a miracle will save Chad from the firm grip of France. First, Chad is one of the poorest countries in the world. Chad has one of the world's worst illiteracy rates. Chad is not rich in valuable minerals. Chad is a strategic military/security buffer for France. What you're saying is similar to asking the UK to leave the Falklands, Gibraltar, or Russia leaving Crimea or America leaving Hawaii or Alaska. It's just not possible. 9 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 1:56pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Nah. they choose their self interest over democracy. All day, everyday. These fvkers are nothing but hypocrites? china vs Cuba comes to mind. Or Saudi Arabia. The coup in Egypt etc. Nigeria need a backer. if not for Russia (yes they have their own interest too) Assad would be dead or in prison by now. Had Assad been their Ally on the other hand, they would support him, they will look the other way once they get a base on Syrian soil lebuhsi: 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 1:57pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Sizzorkay: I hope you know they can easily remove him from power through his own soldiers |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 1:57pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Sizzorkay: The AU that couldn't deploy in Mali to fight terrorists. There is no amount of assertiveness that can replace capacity and structural integrity. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 1:59pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Whyem15: I always imagine, but the deed has been done and we just have to keep looking forward to a better future. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 2:00pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Sizzorkay: I pray Gov. Zulum learns from this 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:02pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Like i stated, not as simple as i put it. sure they could, which is why he wouldn't just sit on a throne all relaxed. loyalty can be bought, he would have lots of work to do to stay in power in my hypothetical scenario. youghs: |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:03pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Right? it only take one opportunity. And that leader is gone. youghs: 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:04pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
That's your opinion. All good talking about capacity and structural integrity. Haven't such deployment happen before? smh. we act like when it comes down to it we wouldn't do the needful. so what if there was no france, we fold our arms and allow terrorists run amock? the capacity is there, the will isn't. And i don't recall saying the AU should deploy soldiers. I was talking about authorization for ecowas deployment into chad. kabe1: |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:06pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX: Where exactly? This looks like an assumption 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 2:06pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
youghs:Tah, I doubt it was "hot zone" that killed him abeg |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Litmus: 2:09pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
kabe1: He is essentially arguing for Chadians to assert themselves over France's colonial control perhaps with the aid of AU. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 2:11pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
SamuelAnyawu:NO. the cds ordered 7 infantry division to deployed is men to chad border . although no much detail. credible intel |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:11pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Well now they can say he died a hero, for Chad. wouldn't it be nice if these weaklings who call themselves leaders actually lead battles, we'd have fewer wars Odunayaw: |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:13pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
There you go. it's all about the messaging. lobby chinese vocal support, Russia etc, there's literally nothing france can do to overide the entire wishes of a continent and support from some other big countries. messaging matters, and showing the capacity to get the job done is also critical such scenario. France isn't some all powerful entity. There are limits, and the world still have rules that Govern it Litmus: 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:26pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
You are now saying Chad is a colony and not independent? okay. comparing crimea/Russia or US /Alaska. these are different scenarios. Alaska was purchased, the crimea and the soviets have their own history. I didnt know chad share border with france, or darn, how did African countries managed to gain their independence fro. the all powerful West. don't fall for mirage and take control of your own destiny. until we do that, we will keep kneeling in front of these fools. There are countries and leaders that went against the west and survived it. its nothing new. The consequences might be dire, but atleast they aren't beholden to any foreign power. you belittle the strength of the continent because you have no faith in it, france is movable, so chad is poor, and that's an excuse for subjugation? its their land, their independent territory. Not France's. sentiments or not. I don't know much about military stuff, but politics and optics, i know quite a bit. Compare Assad to Ghadafi, one was calm and collected, the other was insane, to the point of threatening to level tripoli than to see it fall. That was a critical error he made in his messaging and the West used that against him. oh he's about to kill everyone in tripoli, he has to be stopped. Gotta control your messaging and temperament kabe1: |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:26pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX: But we have always had military presence in some of this border stretch. Does he mean additional soldiers or soldiers are going instantly to dig a new trench in Lake Chad. Baba Soldiers cannot be deployed to new location here in 24hours. No be Lagos oooooooooooh 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:28pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Sizzorkay: You wan send Buhari go frontline? Please we only need UK visits 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:32pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
this man almost killed me with laughter lol. hahaha. oh man. if i be president, na that kind responsibility i go delegate to my VP lol SamuelAnyawu: |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 2:36pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Sizzorkay:why you no go ? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 2:37pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Odunayaw: As if you know my mind. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:37pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
See this one. Na you elect me into office? why i go go haha But be a brother, you go in my stead. my prayers are with you JOSCOFELIX: |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 2:39pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
SamuelAnyawu:baba me have no knowledge about their deployment na intel where i get i share. but nigeria military have base close to chad |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 2:42pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Sizzorkay:if you deputy face wetin zulum face he go regin set trap for you |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 2:47pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Sizzorkay:In sane countries, the military will take flak for such a death. Imagine if it were Bush in the middle east |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:50pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX: Yes we have bases in all those stretch. Reason I felt it’s just additional troops |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:51pm On Apr 20, 2021 |
Right? it's being treated like say na some rebel leader died lol. shoot. Odunayaw: |
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