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Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 10:19am On Apr 21, 2021 |
We all know how hard is it to get an asylum visa than a normal visa. Asylum visas come with so much stress that most people eventually give up. The Uk granted asylum to Ipob terrorists on the ground that they must prove that they didn't incite violence or carried out violence, the Uk also acknowledges that Nigeria has the right to arrest and pesecute IPOB terrorists who incited and carried out violence. Let that be clear. Anyway, it is not the first time the Uk have granted asylum visas to Nigerian. During the bokoharam crisis, the UK and United states granted asylum visas to some Nigerians who they think must have been the victims of boko haram. To be sincere, there is nothing special about this news. Joining IPOB terrorist group won't lead to automatic asylum visas, you also have to proof that you didn't participate in crime, now this is tricky, will the Nigerian government give IPOB terrorists documents like police clearance certificate and other documents they will need to apply for asylum? HELL NO Note: UK Asylum visas are valid for 5 years, after that, you have to return back to Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Amotolongbo(f): 10:25am On Apr 21, 2021 |
But why is Lai Mohammed foaming in the mouth? 9 Likes |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nigeriabiafra82: 10:28am On Apr 21, 2021 |
The BMC are gradually finding their voice One day they will be like nothing special in biafra having their nation 30 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 10:28am On Apr 21, 2021 |
Amotolongbo: The government has to be concerned because British is undermining the Nigerian government fight against terrorism and interfering in her affairs. If the Nigerian government gives asylum to IRA, don't you think it will create a diplomatic issue. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nigeriabiafra82: 10:30am On Apr 21, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1:And you think they need all this from their persecutor before they are granted asylum 6 Likes
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Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 10:32am On Apr 21, 2021 |
Is it your asylum?... let them be, moreover the UK government knows the struggle is between the IPOB and the Buhari Govt, so demanding a security report from that in respect to IPOB asylum would almost be near impossible. 3 Likes |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 10:33am On Apr 21, 2021 |
Nigeriabiafra82: Oboy! go and read the requirements and what the British government wrote for an ipob member to be granted asylum. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by nedu666: 10:34am On Apr 21, 2021 |
A day spent without gossiping about lgbos is a day wasted. 3 Likes
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Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Oblongata: 10:34am On Apr 21, 2021 |
You can fool people one time, sometimes, many times... but you can never fool people ALL the time. Truth be told, IPOB should have never been proscribed, they have been relatively peaceful and should have been coerced by the government rather than proscription. The world knows terrorist when they see one. As for the OP, UK will never grant any BOKO HARAM or HERDSMEN member asylum, violent or not...e get why 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 10:37am On Apr 21, 2021 |
The fact you are saying it with epistle of tears means it really pains you just like Lai Mohamed (or do you know more than Lai that called it a hit below belt) 5 Likes |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 10:37am On Apr 21, 2021 |
Oblongata: IPOB is a terrorist organization as proscribed by the government of Nigeria. Ipob have never been peaceful, there are lot of evidence of ipob terrorism against the Nigerian state. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by StaffofOrayan(m): 10:38am On Apr 21, 2021 |
Because at the end of the day, nobody is safe from Salafist islam, especially the west
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Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 10:38am On Apr 21, 2021 |
nedu666: Exactly. Likewise a day spent without gossiping about Northerners and fulanis is a day wasted. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Rodwave: 10:39am On Apr 21, 2021 |
Nigeriabiafra82: 3 Likes
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Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Oblongata: 10:41am On Apr 21, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1:Na true you talk o Fulani herdsmen have been very peaceful by killing innocent citizens for nothing everyday. They are doing the Nigerian state a good deed, they should never be proscribed |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by DefHQ: 10:43am On Apr 21, 2021 |
@Op from where you stand on Nigeria issues, I can only wish u more tears.. .. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 10:44am On Apr 21, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1:Firstly Asylum visas have a cause to aid the persecuted persons (it can be expedited or slowed depending on how urgent the threat is and whether the laws in your country can protect you) E.g if you are a gay in Nigeria facing hostility the human right laws still favour you here and as such your asylum would take alot of protocols to scale through (unless when it's an immediate threat from the state itself) If you are accused of blasphemy in the north your asylum would be immediately expedited because the laws of the land are against you and the citizens need your head urgently. But when Asylum is given by a nation against a state sponspored threat such asylum is expedited without delay because the nation granting asylum is already convinced through enough evidences that the persecuted group is innocent They don't need much evidences again apart from video, picture, dailies proof that the Nigeria army targeted you on the Biafra cause The people that sat to create the asylum know that the Nigeria laws and government won't give you the equity you want so it would be expedited the Uk also acknowledges that Nigeria has the right to arrest and pesecute IPOB terrorists who incited and carried out violence. Let that be clear. There is no evidence of the bolded in the report we read, infact it is a contradiction in your claim In UK eyes they don't see Ipob as criminals or a Terrorist group but instead freedom fighters This is why the asylum exist, and this is why Lai Mohamed the representative of this government is crying. UK officially supports Ipob now, none of their activities is seen as criminal but defense to against oppression During the bokoharam crisis, the UK and United states granted asylum visas to some Nigerians who they think must have been the victims of boko haram. At the bolded hope you know the asylum was granted to "victims" not Boko Haram but here the people who Fg calls the Terrorists are the ones getting asylum so it's different To be sincere, there is nothing special about this news. Joining IPOB terrorist group won't lead to automatic asylum visas, you also have to proof that you didn't participate in crime, now this is tricky It's special o, and yes joining Ipob can give you automatic asylum if you can show video, picture proofs that you are victim of army brutality because of your Ipob stance will the Nigerian government give IPOB terrorists documents like police clearance certificate and other documents they will need to apply for asylum? HELL NO Asylum visas doesn't need to have police, army government clearance because these are the same people the Visa is to protect you from, if you have dailies, videos, pictures it's more than enough, don't forget these are the same things they used as evidences to approve this Visa type In summary you created this trend to calm your nerve but you have to be very worried now that it is the creator of this country that are going in this direction It's more like they have revolted against the north whom they gave power to, they want to dissolve their mistake 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 11:30am On Apr 21, 2021 |
Mikehot: I believe you need to read the UK Visas and Immigration guidelines. This is the guideline. UKVI, a division of the Home Office, directed its decision makers to consider if a person “who actively and openly supports IPOB is likely to be at risk of arrest and detention, and ill-treatment which is likely to amount to persecution”. According to the guidelines, the decision makers “must also consider if the [Nigerian] government’s actions are acts of prosecution, not persecution. Those fleeing prosecution or punishment for a criminal offence are not normally refugees. Prosecution may, however, amount to persecution if it involves victimisation in its application by the authorities”. An example of persecution, the UKVI said, is “if it is the vehicle or excuse for or if only certain groups are prosecuted for a particular offence and the consequences of that discrimination are sufficiently severe. Punishment which is cruel, inhuman or degrading (including punishment which is out of all proportion to the offence committed) may also amount to persecution”. The UK acknowledges that the Nigerian government has a responsibility to maintain law and order, “to prevent and protect the public against acts of violence”. It said where supporters or members of MASSOB or IPOB “have incited or used violence to disrupt public order, the government may have legitimate grounds to arrest and prosecute those people”. decision makers are to consider each case on its facts, taking into account: -profile, size, and organisation of the group/organisation to which the person belongs and its activities -whether a person in the UK would wish to continue their activism if returned to Nigeria (if not, why not) -whether the group/organisation has a presence in Nigeria as well as outside of the country and any evidence that it is being monitored by the government person’s profile and political activities (including those online) and relevant documentary or other evidence profile and activities of family members past treatment. decision makers are directly to still consider all claims on an individual basis, taking into account each case’s specific facts If you read the guidelines very well, it does not favor ipob terrorists because many are law breakers that have committed crimes against the Nigerian government. Your idea that asylum are quickly given without investigation is laughable, the guidelines clearly started what should be considered before ipob terrorist can be given an asylum. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 11:38am On Apr 21, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1: Are you serious? So now it is Britain undermining the fight against terrorism? Not your fellow Northerners in Government that the world can see are the real stumbling block to arresting insecurity in Nigeria? You guys are all the same. Clannish, ethnocentric and over-religious to a fault. 2 Likes |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 11:49am On Apr 21, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1:Nothing here UK has to say these things so it doesn't look like they are invading a sovereign state The devil is in the details The fact that a nation calls a group a Terrorist organization and another nation is finding way to give them refuge is a dent on the Fg so UK has to talk of those protocols so it doesn't disgrace the FG completely If you claim you don't support criminal activities and the home government says they are criminals then what is the need of asylum? It's just face saving talk, by the way did you notice the Prosecution may, however, amount to persecution if it involves victimisation in its application by the authorities” Essentially we all know that the criminal activities done in the name of Ipob are by government arranged persons So Ipob don't run from prosecution, and if government is trying to frame people up this time, they would have alot of problems because it would lead to calls for persecution as this government does not prove most of its allegations against Ipob that keeps coming out as set up |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 11:50am On Apr 21, 2021 |
Mikehot: So the Uk have to say those things... |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by OfoIgbo: 11:53am On Apr 21, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1: With refugee/asylum status, you are allowed to work and open up business. With ordinary visa, you can't With refugee/asylum status, the government can even help you with getting housing. With ordinary visa, you can't With refugee/asylum status, you are entitled to social security benefits. With ordinary visa, you are not entitled to them. I know IPOB refugees will especially be happy with being able to open up businesses and working there. |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 11:54am On Apr 21, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1:You don't know more than Lai Mohamed that was crying yesterday He knows the game is up |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by nlreserve: 11:55am On Apr 21, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1:This your new monica eehn! Is like you don tire for this your BMC job. You know, the number of jobless youths outnumber the BMC members. So, expect much pressure or ask your paymaster to employ all the jobless youths and pay them 30k too so the story go change. |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 11:59am On Apr 21, 2021 |
Mikehot: He is the minister of information for Godsake. So because a minister gave his opinion on the situation that means the game is up. I hope you have heard about diplomacy and this job is not for lai to handle but the mr of foreign affairs. The uk have given their guidelines, it is not the final say, it is just a proposal. |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Fejoku: 11:59am On Apr 21, 2021 |
OP, whatever makes you sleep at night is fine. Freedom is coming for Biafrans and there's nothing you can do about it. The same Britain that recognized the unjust treatment of Biafran agitators are the same people that gave your fathers the weapons to fight the Biafran wars. We lost millions of people and 50 years after that we're still been killed in our land. They know it and other European countries know it too. The Israeli President Benyamin Netanyahu once mentioned the plight of the Biafrans and other groups and associations have of recent remembered the Biafran tragedy. We know you lack sense of reasoning but those who have one know we have a legitimate case. If Britain of today can grant asylum to the persecuted IPOB and MASSOB members, will they hesitate to aid in equipping us sensing the invasion your terrorist military is planning against our region? In case you don't know, other European countries are aware of this current pronouncement. They know about the Igbos. They know IPOB and they know about Biafra. You can continue to call us terrorists but those whose society operates with sanity know better. God Bless IPOB (GBI) God Bless Biafra (GBB). 3 Likes |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 12:01pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
nlreserve: It will be nice to comment intelligently rather than write something not related to the topic of discussion. How does, jobless youths, bmc, bmc job, new monica, bmc members, 30k relates to the topic of discussion. |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Balkan(m): 12:01pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
At least they have recognised IPOB and Biafra. Big win |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 12:02pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1:I don't think he would be crying if UK and Nigeria government were on the same page |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 12:06pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
OfoIgbo: You are making a big mistake. If you get an asylum in the Uk, you are permitted to stay in the Uk for only 5 years. After that, you will be sent home. Infact to work, you need a work permit and can only work in jobs on the UK's shortage occupation list. |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Nobody: 12:07pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Mikehot: I hope you know that asylum is only 5 years, after that you will return home. If you are in the Uk as an ipob member for 10 years illegally, once you apply for asylum and they decline it, you will be deported immediately. Lai Muhammad is the minister of information not foreign affairs |
Re: Nothing Special About Britain Asylum To IPOB Terrorists. by Akiara: 12:07pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
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