Tony142:
so, God just sit down one day and decided to create sickle cell anemia to suffer innocent children from birth

Dtruthspeaker:


You are the one who is wicked for thinking this!

For God WARNED your fathers' that if you disobeyed, you will die. He Never Specified how you would die.

But of all the dying things, drowning, selfcide, murdering, diseases, you went into the middle of diseases to find 1.

Neither did you See Not Appreciate that even after your dying through your own fault, God Still Created a Way for you to Live Again.

Now, by this Way, dying is no longer a Problem Anymore!

FOLYKAZE:


Did animals, plant inclusive, and plant sinned too?

FOLYKAZE:

Did animals, plant inclusive, and plant sinned too?

Dtruthspeaker:


Like Leprosy, Ebola, Corona, evil corrupts everything it touches and Unclean and Sick man has touched EVERYTHING!

The ground, the air, the seas are all Defiled/Corrupt.

Which is why God, at the First, Said He would Heal the land if we stopped defiling and desecrating and corrupting it, but, No, man did not stop his wicked works. rather, he increased the intensity of his wickedness.

So now, all is corrupt and all shall be Destroyed!

FOLYKAZE:

Are you admitting they have sinned since they will die also?

Tony142:

Tony142:
so, God just sit down one day and decided to create sickle cell anemia to suffer innocent children from birth

shadeyinka:

How did the manufacturer of Lexus 470 err by creating a good car that the driver reset the MCU with a virus in the name of fake upgrade?

Dtruthspeaker:


Like the Clothes of a Leper or Ebola patient, they were in contact with a Sinner!

And like an Assosory or Accomplice, they shall Stand Trial with the Principal Offender!

harmargedon:
don't listen to that guy, it's his type that is the problem of this world. His own God is not Ominiscient. Since he used the word "if" meaning his god don't see the future.

Dtruthspeaker:


You are the one who is wicked for thinking this!

For God WARNED your fathers' that if you disobeyed, you will die. He Never Specified how you would die.

But of all the dying things, drowning, selfcide, murdering, diseases, you went into the middle of diseases to find 1.

Neither did you See Not Appreciate that even after your dying through your own fault, God Still Created a Way for you to Live Again.

Now, by this Way, dying is no longer a Problem Anymore!

Tony142:
so, God just sit down one day and decided to create sickle cell anemia to suffer innocent children from birth

harmargedon:
Abeg let's hear word, you've been brain washed with nonsense. So plants and animals that died committed the same sin abi, or animals that cry during child bearing sinned against God. You need to educate yourself more often, it helps.

Kobojunkiee:
God created a "good" world, but man let the infection that is sin into the world, bringing with it death, illnesses,and all other calamities.

FOLYKAZE:


The principal offender has already been served punishment for disobeying God's instruction. The serpent, woman and Eve were severely punished accordingly. We weren't told the innocent animals, insects , and plants would share from the fate of the real offenders.

If plants and animals weren't the real perpetrators, why then do they share from punishment of an offence they didn't partook? Isn't that injustice?

shadeyinka:

How did the manufacturer of Lexus 470 err by creating a good car that the driver reset the MCU with a virus in the name of fake upgrade?

FOLYKAZE:

You only painted the greeny field thereby artistically hiding the dangerous greeny snake which lied therein. Death, illness, and all other calamities are creation of God, Isaiah 45:7 and Amos 3:6. How could a good God create a bad world in the first place?

Moreso, the original source of sickle cell is not the sin of the child or his parent or that of the first human. John 9:1-3 posit that God created diseases and pains not because of the sin of those affected but to glorify himself. That is wickedness my dear

Dtruthspeaker:


That is the First Principal Offenders, the plants and animals were untouched, but their children too became barbaric offenders and this time they included plants and animals in their Offences eg if harmagedon pours his evil sperm on my corn seedlings, would you want to eat my corn at harvest time, if you knew? Iyama!

No, you would not, for it is exactly as a bedsheet he used to wipe his sperm from having sex with Tony's wife. You would never want to lay on it or even on the bed!

Same for a cow which he penetrated, (iyama), surely you would not touch any of these things.

Why?

Because they are Polluted, Corrupted and Defiled!

Kobojunkiee:
God created it all to His specification and He made it all good. The plants, animals, viruses, sickness...everything coexisting...it was all good. The man let sin in to control things and we are suffering for it.

Everything that exists, good and evil alike was created with a purpose, so do not think that there something that does exist without one.

So ask me better questions please.

FOLYKAZE:


Manufacturer of lexus 470 is not omniscience. Is he?

And please tell, how did the blind boy in john 9:1-3 reset his eye with virus?

What possible upgrade could any person do when God has acknowledged he created the defect according to Isaiah 45:7?

FOLYKAZE:


If we were to go by the emboldened, do we still have those plants and animals that were untouched? They should be hale and healthy till date.... Shouldn't they?

FOLYKAZE:

You only painted the greeny field thereby artistically hiding the dangerous greeny snake which lied therein. Death, illness, and all other calamities are creation of God, Isaiah 45:7 and Amos 3:6. How could a good God create a bad world in the first place?

shadeyinka:

The first parents of humanity imported a virus into the gene of themselves and their offsprings.

The case of John 9:1-3 was just a case of the consequence of his inheritance extending well beyond his parents.

Jesus did not say God created him like that. Jesus said that God's works should be made evident in him. Only the sick need visit a doctor.

John 9:3: "Jesus answered, Neither has this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him."

FOLYKAZE:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Were you not the one exonerating God from evil and calamities of this world? That there is bible verse attesting that he created evil and all calamities.

Amos 3:6 went further that all trouble in the world is orchestrated by God. Therefore, an innocent sickle cell child is put into pains and agony by God. If that isn't wickedness, could you tell us what it is?

Dtruthspeaker:


They would have been Except that Adam gave birth to Cain who Defiled and Polluted the ground with blood and Cain gave birth to Lamech another killer and finally many hamargedon's
and hamargedonesses were born and they soiled the ground and animals with their sperm and squirt and, viola, all is polluted!

Kobojunkiee:
What part the statement "God created it all to His specification and He made it all good" are you having a hard time with?

Does the word "All" not imply everything- good and evil - or what? Help me here cause I do not understanding what you are going for .

FOLYKAZE:


Adam and Eve were outside the garden before Cain and Abel appeared in the scene.

Where are the primordial plants and animals of Eden today since you claimed they were untouched?

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is not yours but if you want to get the import of any verse in our book (Bible) just contact us. Daniel 12:10
We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, we will teach you what is written in our book! Matthew 28:20




Isaiah 45:7

I form light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, Jehovah, am doing all these things.

Import: I created everything even humans who chose to do evil, don't fear them they can only kill the body but they can't determine your future that's beyond their power. Matthew 10:28
I have the ability to raise you back to life when all of them are no more! Job 14:13-15 compare to Psalms 37:7-11

Amos 3:6

If a horn is blown in a city, do the people not tremble? If a calamity occurs in the city, is it not Jehovah who has acted?

Import: [b]When war is approaching don't you people fear? If such war penetrate into your cities is it no i who permitted it?
If you remain faithful and loyal to me you won't need to fear or tremble, i will fight for you you only keep calm! Exodus 14:14 compare to Isaiah 30:15

So calm down and learn what is written in our book otherwise you'll be confused if you're trying to read and understand without consulting us!

Dtruthspeaker:


As you said, they were outside the garden and we too are outside the garden, so Eden and all its inhabitants are out of reach and out of scope!

FOLYKAZE:

All good ke? Nothing is good in calamity, disease, sickle cell or natural disasters.