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Good day all. Please I want to find out if plumbers charge separately for hot and cold water pipe installations? I have always thought it's a whole package, right now am a bit confused. Please help. Thanks.

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This is a simple matter.

Contract stated complete in 7 days or refund the #300k. By the 5th day (at the latest), hslbroker would have known he could not meet his end of the bargain and returned the #300k jeje. End of contract, no questions asked. Sorry, but giving adedward more than you were being paid is very poor judgment. Asking your client to give you extra after the 7 day condition was not met and months elapsed is just

Only piece missing here is whether or not there is documented evidence of the 7 day contract condition. If there was not, then both parties goofed and you could argue that they should both share the cost of their oversight. That said, focusmind already coughed out an additional #75k to adedward so hasn’t he already paid a price?

Adedward appears to be the winner here, #120k + #75k .

Any “elders” that want to support hslbroker should please contribute money under humanitarian considerations to give him, especially since he has been ill - OR - focusmind can give him money if he’s feeling generous but not by compulsion.

chimexdnice1:
Good day all. Please I want to find out if plumbers charge separately for hot and cold water pipe installations? I have always thought it's a whole package, right now am a bit confused. Please help. Thanks.

Hot, cold, waste pipe and soil pipe all are package installation. They fall into first fix and not to be charge separately

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chimexdnice1:
Good day all. Please I want to find out if plumbers charge separately for hot and cold water pipe installations? I have always thought it's a whole package, right now am a bit confused. Please help. Thanks.

No.
Nothing as such from my end.

MMotimo:
This is a simple matter.

Contract stated complete in 7 days or refund the #300k. By the 5th day (at the latest), hslbroker would have known he could not meet his end of the bargain and returned the #300k jeje. End of contract, no questions asked. Sorry, but giving adedward more than you were being paid is very poor judgment. Asking your client to give you extra after the 7 day condition was not met and months elapsed is just

Only piece missing here is whether or not there is documented evidence of the 7 day contract condition. If there was not, then both parties goofed and you could argue that they should both share the cost of their oversight. That said, focusmind already coughed out an additional #75k to adedward so hasn’t he already paid a price?

Adedward appears to be the winner here, #120k + #75k .

Any “elders” that want to support hslbroker should please contribute money under humanitarian considerations to give him, especially since he has been ill - OR - focusmind can give him money if he’s feeling generous but not by compulsion.

Strange things happen on here. It's good that the job was done otherwise we would be hearing of one fraud allegation on here..........

While the contract was outsourced and the client was in the know that hslbroker has paid even above what was given him.....though the client claimed to agree to it and a refund which was done solely that his job be done with and not that he intended to make a refund.....


Why did he not in turn inform hslbroker that he will be giving an extra #75K for the job to the outsourced person.......or was the #75K for the broken glass/window or what.......

The outsourced man has refused to comment on it saying we ought to know who is lying.......

What's the process of getting a prepaid meter? And what's the time frame?

Thanks

Gud morning here, this is adedward bi decided bro talk about this issues, because if I keep silence many people will be thinking many things, here, I salute all my ogas here, I don't know agreement between A and B but what I know is dat I collected additional money from A and
B due to their choice, (1)hsl broker gave me 100,000 out of agreement and run away for almost three months, he came after three months to claim his work which I told him he have to put money,if he needs his works because things has high in market then, dat is the reason for collecting additional money from him, I know he will be remember now,
(2) I collected additional from the client because our agreement between I and hsl broker was out side nets sliding windows, why the client said he didn't want permanent nets, he want sliding nets only, which I quoted for him, because it's not our agreement between I and hsl broker , dats why I collected additional money from them, I don't know their agreement at all, I just know my own, thanks

MMotimo:
This is a simple matter.

Contract stated complete in 7 days or refund the #300k. By the 5th day (at the latest), hslbroker would have known he could not meet his end of the bargain and returned the #300k jeje. End of contract, no questions asked. Sorry, but giving adedward more than you were being paid is very poor judgment. Asking your client to give you extra after the 7 day condition was not met and months elapsed is just

Only piece missing here is whether or not there is documented evidence of the 7 day contract condition. If there was not, then both parties goofed and you could argue that they should both share the cost of their oversight. That said, focusmind already coughed out an additional #75k to adedward so hasn’t he already paid a price?

Adedward appears to be the winner here, #120k + #75k .

Any “elders” that want to support hslbroker should please contribute money under humanitarian considerations to give him, especially since he has been ill - OR - focusmind can give him money if he’s feeling generous but not by compulsion.

Good morning @Hslbroker2

I can see all that’s at play here and I can feel your plight. At this point, I must tell you that have to move on.

In an ideal world, everything on a construction project would go according to plan. I mean “an ideal world.”

I won’t be able to dwell on what went wrong, who was right or wrong but all I can share with you is to focus on rebuilding your business and establishing good systems to prevent such error in the future.

A system of detailed, complete and consistent reporting (whether good or bad) will improve your odds of preventing formal disputes.

They call it technicalities here but just so you know it I’ve been there before. I have this client who refused to accept a refund on a job I’m no longer interested in doing. I did him an official email stating my reasons for dropping the job, asked him to provide account for a refund which he refused to do and waited till he’s ready (legally or whichever way) to take back his fund from me. He got the same value of money he paid for the job 4 years after. I didn’t have to add a kobo to the amount paid - not even a court could ask me to do that.

On this your matter, na my chairman dey involved so I’ll encourage you to move on bro and take the learnings.

There’ll always be problem that could lead to disputes such as payment delays, variations, non-issuance of change orders, schedule delays, disagreements on the scope of work or emerging conflicts between main contractor and subcontractors, you need to learn how to communicate this early and often to the client on all available medium (even on Nairaland forum) so that potential problems can be confronted head-on.

Have a beautiful Thursday!

Please quickly get back to winning ways. I really missed your lovely educative threads.

Well done bro.

chimexdnice1:
Good day all. Please I want to find out if plumbers charge separately for hot and cold water pipe installations? I have always thought it's a whole package, right now am a bit confused. Please help. Thanks.

complete package

I am not exactly sure what rulebook some are using to drive home their points...
Hslbrooker failed to deliver on time this is obvious and this not good.
But...

What does the said said contract say on penalties on defaulting on terms??

Focusmind I applaud your patience and the way you have handled some of the issues...but sir did you reject the refund at any time ??
2.you stated you  agreed verbally to new variations in prices irrespective of desperation like you stated....
Your arguments of unwillingness to pay even after you agreed would hold no water in court...
Not holding up your deal is as bad as him not delivering on time.....
Adeward took extra money for  your iteration of net which was not part of initial agreement...do right thing Sir ...just pay him save yourself this stress up and downs..

I am sure you like what you got and you have shared that before here apart from the broken issue..
All the attention and dragging will not worth it in the end...biko I am pleading sir

n3xt:
Good morning @Hslbroker2

I can see all that’s at play here and I can feel your plight. At this point, I must tell you that have to move on.

In an ideal world, everything on a construction project would go according to plan. I mean “an ideal world.”

I won’t be able to dwell on what went wrong, who was right or wrong but all I can share with you is to focus on rebuilding your business and establishing good systems to prevent such error in the future.

A system of detailed, complete and consistent reporting (whether good or bad) will improve your odds of preventing formal disputes.

They call it technicalities here but just so you know it I’ve been there before. I have this client who refused to accept a refund on a job I’m no longer interested in doing. I did him an official email stating my reasons for dropping the job, asked him to provide account for a refund which he refused to do and waited till he’s ready (legally or whichever way) to take back his fund from me. He got the same value of money he paid for the job 4 years after. I didn’t have to add a kobo to the amount paid - not even a court could ask me to do that.

On this your matter, na my chairman dey involved so I’ll encourage you to move on bro and take the learnings.

There’ll always be problem that could lead to disputes such as payment delays, variations, non-issuance of change orders, schedule delays, disagreements on the scope of work or emerging conflicts between main contractor and subcontractors, you need to learn how to communicate this early and often to the client on all available medium (even on Nairaland forum) so that potential problems can be confronted head-on.

Have a beautiful Thursday!

Please quickly get back to winning ways. I really missed your lovely educative threads.

Well done bro.

thank you so much am grateful, we learn everyday, life is a teacher, focusmind was carried along from the beginning to end, to the point of delivery, and still continue to tell me he will balance me the money adedward collected to complete the work because he later confirmed that truly I paid N420k for his work not N300k, that is why he keep promising me not to worry he will pay the balance once he confirm the work, the money he paid to adedward was his on doing because out of the windows there are some big windows, he first concluded there will not be need for net, but later he instructed adedward to put net on the windows, wish I think that one charge him N50k for it, I was not aware, then the glasses that broke was not from me, i didn't break any glasses, he said he paid N25k to adedward to fix the broken glasses, i didn't know anything about it.

here I am now, at lost of N120k without a single kobo gain, the debt still on my neck.

Since last year.

MMotimo:
This is a simple matter.

Contract stated complete in 7 days or refund the #300k. By the 5th day (at the latest), hslbroker would have known he could not meet his end of the bargain and returned the #300k jeje. End of contract, no questions asked. Sorry, but giving adedward more than you were being paid is very poor judgment. Asking your client to give you extra after the 7 day condition was not met and months elapsed is just

Only piece missing here is whether or not there is documented evidence of the 7 day contract condition. If there was not, then both parties goofed and you could argue that they should both share the cost of their oversight. That said, focusmind already coughed out an additional #75k to adedward so hasn’t he already paid a price?

Adedward appears to be the winner here, #120k + #75k .

Any “elders” that want to support hslbroker should please contribute money under humanitarian considerations to give him, especially since he has been ill - OR - focusmind can give him money if he’s feeling generous but not by compulsion.

before I give adedward my words to continue with work I have already informed focus mind and he said Edward should go ahead with it, I connect both of them together, I was indispose also trying to find fund to balance Edward since focus mind had said he won't pay the balance until the job is deliver, so in the process of trying to balance Edward N120k, this during the heat of coronavirus,There was a little delay that occur because even Edward normally work on Monday, Wednesday and Friday during this time, because certain time was allow for people to go the market or even workshop.

dongc:
I am not exactly sure what rulebook some are using to drive home their points...
Hslbrooker failed to deliver on time this is obvious and this not good.
But...

What does the said said contract say on penalties on defaulting on terms??

Focusmind I applaud your patience and the way you have handled some of the issues...but sir did you reject the refund at any time ??
2.you stated you  agreed verbally to new variations in prices irrespective of desperation like you stated....
Your arguments of unwillingness to pay even after you agreed would hold no water in court...
Not holding up your deal is as bad as him not delivering on time.....
Adeward took extra money for  your iteration of net which was not part of initial agreement...do right thing Sir ...just pay him save yourself this stress up and downs..

I am sure you like what you got and you have shared that before here apart from the broken issue..
All the attention and dragging will not worth it in the end...biko I am pleading sir

am begging him to pay me, this debt still on my neck and the creditor are not smiling with me I don't know the plan of focus mind maybe he want the creditor for his job to get me arrested and he will be fine at home while I lag behind bar for his project I gain no kobo or cent from not even pure water, I was dying on my sick bed, he keep telling me I shouldn't bother nor worry that his expecting some money and Immediately he get the money, he will send to me, up till now, he didn't bother to send me any money, he refuse to pick my calls and refuse to reply any of my messages.

this nothing but pure wickedness.

Adedward:
Gud morning here, this is adedward bi decided bro talk about this issues, because if I keep silence many people will be thinking many things, here, I salute all my ogas here, I don't know agreement between A and B but what I know is dat I collected additional money from A and
B due to their choice, (1)hsl broker gave me 100,000 out of agreement and run away for almost three months, he came after three months to claim his work which I told him he have to put money,if he needs his works because things has high in market then, dat is the reason for collecting additional money from him, I know he will be remember now,
(2) I collected additional from the client because our agreement between I and hsl broker was out side nets sliding windows, why the client said he didn't want permanent nets, he want sliding nets only, which I quoted for him, because it's not our agreement between I and hsl broker , dats why I collected additional money from them, I don't know their agreement at all, I just know my own, thanks

don't ever use the word runaway, you know I was sick and you know how terrible the circumstances was for me at that time.

And I told u the additional money you requested from was known to the client and he promise to pay it but I should look for it and pay you, after delivery, he will balance me, and i need to look for money for you so you can deliver and I told u to hasting the job, but you keep telling me that because of the coronavirus you don't work everyday, Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and sometimes u said you are busy with other jobs.

You collected N420k from me in total, you collected N50k for net from focus mind still collected additional N25k to repair the glasses you broke since last year, and if you not paid the N25k extra for your own damages, the glasses you broke, you wont repair the broken glasses by now, and nobody use the word run away for you here, but you dim it fit to label someone that was sick to the point of death as run away, while I was sick I still making calls trying to balance you, since you said if you don't collect the balance of N120k, you won't deliver and the client said if you don't deliver he won't pay, I went out of my way to make sure I balance you so you can deliver.

after delivery you broke glasses you refuse to go and fix over 7months, until you are called out here, and you still collected N25k to go and do the fix the glasses you broke and already paid for.

this is fair to you?

total money you collected N495k.


you only capitalised on the fact that I was sick, you have access to the client, the client needs he work deliver on time, so you use that avenue to claim extra N195k on the job I took for N300k.

You see that there is no fear of God in your dealing with me and the clients..

you still collected N25k for a mistake made by you, not by me or the client.

topsy23:


Hot, cold, waste pipe and soil pipe all are package installation. They fall into first fix and not to be charge separately

this is true

@chuckkingston

Pls dm me on +234.80.234...29.122

I have a question for the seasoned folks.

So there's this piece of acreage that was offered to me. Nice location and in my adopted area of operation. In fact it abuts one of my future acreages.

The issue is that the Chinese train company dug away quite a bit of dirt from the ground on the acreage.

a) Walk away from the deal.
b) Fill in the dirt at great cost.
c) Use the dug away part as underground parking and just use pillars from the bedrock.

Thanks.

PS: Maintaining my brand and personal integrity is crucial to me. So I aim to be squeaky clean in all my dealings and I want to avoid anything that could tarnish it.

For the professional builders in the house, check out this building process from brasil. Is this possible to build low cost bungalow in Nigeria. Notice reduction in use of steel and mortar

Stevo30:
For the professional builders in the house, check out this building process from brasil. Is this possible to build low cost bungalow in Nigeria. Notice reduction in use of steel and mortar

;

I have this happening near me but I’ll be comfortable doing traditions here because we don’t have the type of load bearing blocks they use here.

I’ll post pics shortly. The build next to mine has precast lintels

Stevo30:
For the professional builders in the house, check out this building process from brasil. Is this possible to build low cost bungalow in Nigeria. Notice reduction in use of steel and mortar

We overbuild in Nigeria for sure.

Just look at the little amount of mortar between the joints

@stevo30

I am a very private person, in short I don’t know why I am doing this, as I have never mediated in anything nairaland banters.

But this situation touches me so much ( focusmind, adedward and hslbroker2)
I am not here to apportion blame or judge who did what and who is right or wrong, but to plead with the parties to give peace a chance.

Truly focusmind had the intention of paying 300k for the job,
Hslborker couldn’t deliver based on the agreed date,
He contracted it instead to Adedward (due to his been indisposed)

Adedward took on the job but with a higher price margin, communicated it to Hslborker, He in turn communicated it to focusmind, in between this back and forth there was a verbal agreement for the job to be done with knowledge of the client ,albeit with some (just do it , but I will do what is in my mind).

Based on the above facts from the three of them, it can be deduced that , truly from all indications Hslbroker messed up on the delivery date, but made up for it by using his personal funds to get the job done, with the knowledge of the client.
The additional money given to Adedward is for the alteration in the job (nets and broken glass) but look at it from this angle.

Hslbroker did not use the money instead to treat himself or for other things and say because he was sick he couldn’t deliver, he made efforts. In the process its obvious he has now run at a loss (420k he gave adedward that the client was aware of minus 300k the client gave him) meaning he is at a loss of 120k, bearing in mind that he didn’t make profit from this job.

I just want to plead that the number of months that has elapsed is enough punishment for him loosing the said amount , but the good thing is the job was done, client has received the job with the knowledge that it was done at a greater amount than he initially paid for.

So please Focusmind I plead with you to find a way to reimburse him for the loss (God bless you more than your expectations) and just look at what he has gone thru while he was ill. (it’s a plea)

A wise man once said, what is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man/person/people to look on and do nothing.

Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong.......

this is just a humble submission, times are hard, money is not easy to see and i understand everybody is feeling it.

Lemme borrow the popular slang here,
Please I come in peace th

n3xt:
@stevo30

Sir, these precast slabs I'm looking at are quite flat and the structure isn't a skeletal one.
What do you think?

I have read people's opinions regarding this issue. MMotimo, n3xt, dongc, dixton etc. Your comments have been noted.

I need to clear the issue on the N120K additional costs. I couldn't get back my refund from hslbroker when I requested for it, neither did I take delivery of the windows as at when due. Even if hslbroker had told me that I would pay additional 300k for the windows, I would still have "deceptively" agreed. Giving Monkey a cup of water is not the problem. The problem is collecting back the cup. You have to outsmart it, beat it to its own game or at very worst, be at par with it to collect back your cup. This was exactly the strategy I employed. MMotimo noted that strategy in his comments.

HSLbroker was duly informed of the additional costs of transportation and nets I was about to pay Adedward. My windows were supposed to come with sliding nets as earlier agreed with hslbroker but he went ahead to instruct Adedward to do fixed nets, which were cheaper. I knew that waiting for him to mobilize Adedward to do sliding nets would be tough. I had to give Adedward the N40K to do the nets, which I also informed hslbroker.

On the transportation cost, he paid only N20k to Adedeward, which was not enough to move the goods to Ajah as the initial money I paid hslbroker was inclusive of transportation to my site within seven days. I had to advance Adedward another N10K, which is to the knowledge of HSLbroker. I told him he should ensure he mobilized Adedward to move the windows, but the funds were not forthcoming from hslbroker.

When I finally got the windows, they were made of "thick imported materials" as against "tower" as agreed with hslbroker. I raised it with him, he did not say anything. I raised it also with Adedward, he said what hslbroker gave him could only do windows made of "thick imported materials" as at that time and that doing windows with "tower" would be more expensive. This was something that could have been avoided if my windows were done as at when due and agreed.

On the issue that I displayed the windows here for people to see, which proved my acceptance of the windows. My brother, that display was at the behest of hslbroker. He requested that I show case the windows as a way of somehow "white washing" his already battered image, which I later got to know. Some discerning minds in this forum got the message that I was trying to "white wash" or do a mini PR for hslbroker. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I did him that favor not to be seen as a stumbling block to his business, which is somehow, against business ethics. The "thick imported materials" made windows have started to show signs of weariness, bending, twisting compare to my other windows made of tower and EBM.

The question now is: hslbroker said I owe him N120K. I spent additional N50k on services he ought to have paid himself, which means, I now "owe" him N70K. Is the N70K sufficient to compensate me for taken delivery of far lower quality " thick imported material" made windows as against "tower" made windows paid for and agreed with hslboker? If I had rejected the windows for not meeting up with specifications, trust me, I wouldn't be able to get refund from hslbroker, neither would I be able to get "tower" made windows from him. I didn't include the 25k I gave Adedward for fixing the broken windows as that was my own way of supporting him to fix the windows, which hslbroker did not cause. So, I did not attribute that cost to hslbroker.

Hslbroker sent me pictures of his sick body, with something that looked like malignant tumors on his skins. I have not met hslbroker before in person and I wouldn't know if the pictures were real, as his integrity and character are unreliable. I wanted to share the pictures for people that have met him to confirm if he was the one and actually sick, but the pictures were too graphic that I had to delete them from my whatsapp. As humans, sometimes, compassion trumps logic and I may be compelled to send something to him as a way of supporting his recovery, count my losses and move on. Not because he was right. These were windows that I could have taken delivery at N300K, with tower material made and now being asked by hslbroker for additional money on the premise that I "agreed" his additional costs and he still delivered below our agreed specifications.

n3xt:
@stevo30

The lintel in the pictures i shared is not precast lintel. If you look at the pictures very well what they did is to support the blocks at lintel with wood, they then filled the blocks with concrete mixture. The only thing is that with the method they didn't use iron. The blocks are stronger than what we have here i agree. It's an alternate method of building low cost housing. I wonder what the national building research institute does in Nigeria. They should be coming up with this alternate, cheaper and sustainable way of building.

Focusmind:
As humans, sometimes, compassion trumps logic and I may be compelled to send something to him as a way of supporting his recovery, count my losses and move on. Not because he was right.

Baba, I’m happy to read from you and I truly understand your message.
Thanks for your decision to support. You’re putting humane in humanity.

@hslbroker2 he don do. Accept whatever is offered and move on to bigger stuffs.

Thank you

Stevo30:


The lintel in the pictures i shared is not precast lintel. If you look at the pictures very well what they did is to support the blocks at lintel with wood, they then filled the blocks with concrete mixture. The only thing is that with the method they didn't use iron. The blocks are stronger than what we have here i agree. It's an alternate method of building low cost housing. I wonder what the national building research institute does in Nigeria. They should be coming up with this alternate, cheaper and sustainable way of building.

Baba, there are cheaper alternatives here but I’ll advice you as a client not to encourage your baba lati to go out the way to proffer cheaper ways to build - you won’t find it funny.

If I have my way, I’d be producing beam blocks for lintels and also producing many other precast elements.

See below

Focusmind:
I have read people's opinions regarding this issue. MMotimo, n3xt, dongc, dixton etc. Your comments have been noted.

I need to clear the issue on the N120K additional costs. I couldn't get back my refund from hslbroker when I requested for it, neither did I take delivery of the windows as at when due. Even if hslbroker had told me that I would pay additional 300k for the windows, I would still have "deceptively" agreed. Giving Monkey a cup of water is not the problem. The problem is collecting back the cup. You have to outsmart it, beat it to its own game or at very worst, be at par with it to collect back your cup. This was exactly the strategy I employed. MMotimo noted that strategy in his comments.

HSLbroker was duly informed of the additional costs of transportation and nets I was about to pay Adedward. My windows were supposed to come with sliding nets as earlier agreed with hslbroker but he went ahead to instruct Adedward to do fixed nets, which were cheaper. I knew that waiting for him to mobilize Adedward to do sliding nets would be tough. I had to give Adedward the N40K to do the nets, which I also informed hslbroker.

On the transportation cost, he paid only N20k to Adedeward, which was not enough to move the goods to Ajah as the initial money I paid hslbroker was inclusive of transportation to my site within seven days. I had to advance Adedward another N10K, which is to the knowledge of HSLbroker. I told him he should ensure he mobilized Adedward to move the windows, but the funds were not forthcoming from hslbroker.

When I finally got the windows, they were made of "thick imported materials" as against "tower" as agreed with hslbroker. I raised it with him, he did not say anything. I raised it also with Adedward, he said what hslbroker gave him could only do windows made of "thick imported materials" as at that time and that doing windows with "tower" would be more expensive. This was something that could have been avoided if my windows were done as at when due and agreed.

On the issue that I displayed the windows here for people to see, which proved my acceptance of the windows. My brother, that display was at the behest of hslbroker. He requested that I show case the windows as a way of somehow "white washing" his already battered image, which I later got to know. Some discerning minds in this forum got the message that I was trying to "white wash" or do a mini PR for hslbroker. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I did him that favor not to be seen as a stumbling block to his business, which is somehow, against business ethics. The "thick imported materials" made windows have started to show signs of weariness, bending, twisting compare to my other windows made of tower and EBM.

The question now is: hslbroker said I owe him N120K. I spent additional N50k on services he ought to have paid himself, which means, I now "owe" him N70K. Is the N70K sufficient to compensate me for taken delivery of far lower quality " thick imported material" made windows as against "tower" made windows paid for and agreed with hslboker? If I had rejected the windows for not meeting up with specifications, trust me, I wouldn't be able to get refund from hslbroker, neither would I be able to get "tower" made windows from him. I didn't include the 25k I gave Adedward for fixing the broken windows as that was my own way of supporting him to fix the windows, which hslbroker did not cause. So, I did not attribute that cost to hslbroker.

Hslbroker sent me pictures of his sick body, with something that looked like malignant tumors on his skins. I have not met hslbroker before in person and I wouldn't know if the pictures were real, as his integrity and character are unreliable. I wanted to share the pictures for people that have met him to confirm if he was the one and actually sick, but the pictures were too graphic that I had to delete them from my whatsapp. As humans, sometimes, compassion trumps logic and I may be compelled to send something to him as a way of supporting his recovery, count my losses and move on. Not because he was right. These were windows that I could have taken delivery at N300K, with tower material made and now being asked by hslbroker for additional money on the premise that I "agreed" his additional costs and he still delivered below our agreed specifications.

thanks everyone for your help on this issue