2piK:


If you read my post thoroughly, I believe you'd not have had to ask this question. But that's irrelevant, i shared my story to motivate the OP and everyone in the same situation that's considering giving up, so they know that they can achieve anything with hard work and God's grace. It's not about me, so if you don't understand the content of my post, that's also great. You don't need to worry about it.

OK sir..i didn't mean to provoke you in anyway

Aburo mi, you see that your body that is doing you gish-gish to come to Nigeria ehn, na devil, no let am use u oo.. Tobawa peren.

ShyWhale:


A little more than a year.

My candid advice: Don't marry a woman you don't love because of your situation. As a matter of fact if you marry in such condition, it's depressing and those people telling you to marry her will not be there when things goes wrong. This is entirely your life and your decision. Moreover, about the menial jobs, I think you should do it for a while, so that you can save some money to invest in Nigeria. Remember it's bad to return to Nigeria without money. The jobs in Nigeria can't even pay you what you earn in menial jobs in Europe. I rest my case here. Cheers

Don’t know why people always attach religion to everything

fullofgrace:
Oh well my second piece of advice is this;
Does any member of ur family run a business?
Do u have a trusted brother than can run a business for you?
How many Lands or houses have u secure?
Do u know y I asked this question?
Have a critical thinking of wat is going on in USA......
All the benefits Obama brought for both citizens nd non citizens have been scrapped off by Donald Trump
Mind you the world at large is in Economic, Financial nd political crisis........
Someone says dont come back home for the future of ur children hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Do u think Germany, Canada etc can not wake up one morning nd say foreigners are taking up there jobs?
Which may lead to deportation........
See wat is happening in South Africa........
Mind u Germany nd those European countries are just using Us as modern slaves.....
Finally everybody has told u there own point of view
But I advise u to pray � � � nd fast for God to review His plans for u....... If God says ur destiny is in Nigeria �� �� �� there's nothing u can do in Europe to make u succeed nd if He says ur destiny is in Europe there's nothing that will make u to make it in Nigeria.
Remember u must one day come back home if not alive ur Dead body must surely arrive ur soil.
If I want Gods favor do away with anything sin because it can barricade ur blessings.......
Thank u God bless!

Well it all depends on our individual belief because I have seen people not in hundreds making it without traveling out of the country and not all people who travel out make it ,there are a lot of Nigerians here who have spent more 20 years here and they are yet to find there bearing .the country is not as bad as we paint it but we Nigerians need to change our mentality

Ugosample:
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to be frank with you


They don't (most of them)


And I am not a "small pikin"

if it's very difficult for young people to get jobs TODAY and many have slipped iny9 despondency

how do you think it will be for the small ones who are too too many coming (the foolish country breed like rats btw, when they have no plan for the unfortunate kids)

quite frankly
the future id quite bleak


except a wonderful miracle happens

bencliff2017:








Well it all depends on our individual belief because I have seen people not in hundreds making it without traveling out of the country and not all people who travel out make it ,there are a lot of Nigerians here who have spent more 20 years here and they are yet to find there bearing .the country is not as bad as we paint it but we Nigerians need to change our mentality

"Nigeria is not as bad as we paint it"


lmao

For a small pool of us who are from upper middle class homes upwards, it may not be

but for the multitude, it's HELL.

We should not use our individual stance to judge the country as a whole
the collective well being of the country is amongst the worst u will see out there and you know it

because a small pool is "making it" does not change anything.

Whatever you do
Dont come back to nigeria
This country is trash

Amuocha:
But where is lalasticlala sef

Are you okay?


Wetin Lala do you?

Mcslize:


I don't see this working. I meant your suggestion about marrying a girl in Naija and leaving her there could be another big mistake on the part of any man that thread that route. Why will I leave my wife in Naija? If you do that don't you think you are giving her a free ticket to collect free scores with another man? She will cheat on you and still be making you feel she still remains how you left her. She might even be in another man's top when you call sometimes. Your sisters or aunty can't monitor her movement or restrict a grown woman's day to day movement. You will still be sending her money of which she might even be giving a part to the said man that may be helping you to shine her Congo.

This is the reason I don't suggest men living far from their wives. They will surely cheat with one of those young smart play boys that are found in social media. Don't you think women get bored most times?

I won't suggest this to any man: staying far away from one's wife.

Spot on!!
Better not to marry at all.
That shining her Congo part got me rolling on the floor...

sats:
Whatever you do
Dont come back to nigeria
This country is trash

Chai

2piK:


You are quite right about the difficulty in getting profesYou made the decision to integrate yourself into it.

Fast forward to
So what is my advice?
This is my story, I hope it motivates you to be strong.

Hallo
Thank you for sharing your story. Recently I saw myself slipping into depression, but I feel encouraged reading this.

Thank you.

cityella:



Hallo
Thank you for sharing your story. Recently I saw myself slipping into depression, but I feel encouraged reading this.

Thank you.

No need to feel depressed dear

I don't know what the op is going through but i i dont believe all he said ,
I got an uncle in Germany working as a forklift operator and he earsns $2000 monthly..He speaks Deutsch thou

nairalanduseles:
Baba come Australia....i have been to the uk its dead ....come to Australia NSW u will thank me

Pls follow the advise by #nairalanduseles, you will never regeret

ShyWhale:
I am a Nigerian in Germany with a German Masters degree. It's quite difficult to get professional jobs in Germany as an African as we are usually the last of the pack. The only luck I ever had was to get internships, internships that takes several months to get and usually only for short periods. The high percentage of Africans even with German Phds doing menial jobs is highly discouraging and depressing. Most are trapped in the race for survival and I can't imagine myself living life like them. I feel I could do better with my skills and education that spreads across Europe's top countries.

I made the decision to return to Nigeria, harness my skills and start up a processing company. At 25 and the sole breadwinner of an extended family, they are asking me to stay put, saying that the Nigerian environment is not good for business (I feel they are only scared of losing out on the goodies they get from me).

Also last year, the family introduced me to a female in the UK, talking about marriage to her. The said lady is a Nigerian within my age range, but born and raised in the UK. Though I have been to the UK severally to see her, I have made no commitments whatsoever as she is not the kind of lady I would marry all things being equal. She and the family have however given me a ultimatum to decide now.


What do you advice?

Pls follow the advise by #nairalanduseles, you will never regret.

Simply relocate to Australia. Life is cool there.

2piK:


You are quite right about the difficulty in getting professional jobs in Germany, but this is not a problem with Germany; it's a problem in every advanced economy. The system in these countries is to always protect the interest of their citizens (rightfully so in my opinion), it's in Nigeria that foreigners would come into the country as expatriates and enjoy the quality of life that its citizens cannot enjoy.

Now you won't like the next few paragraphs. You are entitled. Germany never asked you to come and neither were you promised a job on completion of your studies. You made the decision to integrate yourself into it's society. Have you ever considered that a country like Germany that offers tuition free studies up to PhD level will not have shortage of skilled talents to choose from? So why should you be picked over other talents available? Because you have a masters degree? Do you know how many people have the same masters degree? Or even higher qualifications?

Advanced societies are selfish and only care about integrating the best foreign talents into their societies. So invest in yourself and make yourself stand out. Before you try to make excuses, i will briefly share my personal story and hopefully it will help reinforce believe in yourself and know that you can do it. I was your age when i came to the UK for studies, having no one except God as my friend and family. I discovered quickly that this place called the United Kingdom is a battle ground and i have my work cut-out for me if i am going to make success of it (i won't bother giving examples of what i experienced that informed this thinking as i think it's irrelevant to key points in your post).

During my studies, i did cleaning, support work, care work, kitchen staff (i did any kind of menial job to survive) and i always had a smile on my face because my life was better than when i used to hawk in Nigeria. However, I didn't get discouraged and i completed my bachelors as the best graduating student for my cohort. Based on this, I was lucky to get part scholarship from the University to do my masters which i completed in flying colours. Then the UK had a post-study visa for 2 years, got a job as a software developer with this PSW visa. When my 2 year visa was about to run out my company sponsored me and I got a work visa for 5 years.

Fast forward to the present, i have completed a bachelors, 2 masters and almost a PhD (in my 5th year of my part time PhD programme), I am now a British citizen with qualitative and extensive work experience spanning several EU countries (which incidentally includes Germany, I worked in Berlin for eight months, staying at the Westin Grand at the expense of my employers) and am now a software architect consulting for companies with the remit of providing technical guidance to their software development teams. Even during my work, I continued investing in myself, hence the other masters and my PhD (despite now having my own family).

Do you know how i got Software development experience in the UK?
Before coming here, I had 5 years working as a programmer, on arrival here I knew between classes and doing all sorts of menial jobs; i wouldn't have the time to explore volunteer opportunities. So what did i do? I was going round all local businesses (when i had free time between classes) around the university introducing myself. I explained who i was, what i was doing here and how i can help their businesses. Most of them, told me to jog on (which is British slang for f*** off) in the most polite way possible. So in my first year, no one offered me nothing. But in my second year of my studies, I got lucky there was this care agency that got tired of seeing my face, gave in and asked me to build them an application for managing their staff rota (till today i don't know if they requested this because they thought i won't be motivated to do it for free or even be able to deliver it).

I gave it my best effort, spoke to my course advisor at the university about the project. She was impressed and helped me massively. She designed sprints for me in which i completed specific features each sprint. She helped with testing the software, she wanted me to succeed, I owe her everything. The agency liked it and i got other jobs through them (this was 100% free, i never got paid any money for this project). By the time i finished my degree i had done about 5 of such free projects (now i have a portfolio of my work).

Do you know how i got my first professional job?
I will tell you. I was doing a cleaning job in my university, i had a floor i cleaned every morning before going to class, my floor had about 20 offices or maybe more...can't really remember the exact number. There was a particular office that i hated cleaning, it was always messy and took me lots of time to clean (time that i did not have). Typically i finish my shift before the lecturers come in, but on this particular day, i was cleaning this useless office and the professor came in before i had finished. I greeted him like he was my creator and apologised for not finishing his office on time (even though he was the one who came early). The bastard just nodded and didn't even say a word to me.

I didn't know that moment was when my life would change. 2 weeks later i attended a seminar in the University and this bastard professor was one of the speakers! Next morning when i got to his office to clean, he was already there. I was taken aback and before i could say anything he asked if i was at his seminar the day before, i answered in the affirmative. We got talking, he told me a bit about himself and his research interest (the focus of the seminar) and he got to know i could write software. He said they needed a software intern that could do some work for the research group. I didn't even think, I said yes and that was "my first unofficial professional job", working for his research group. Bye bye cleaning job.

When i finished my masters degree, the research group recommended me to one of their industry partners. My interview revolved around discussing my portfolio (the free job i did for the care agency and the systems research group). I got the job and that was my "first proper official professional job" and I gave it my all. 4 months before my post-study work visa finished the company sponsored me for my 5 year work visa, my parents were crying when i told them over the phone. I will be honest and say that i was underpaid during the period i was on the sponsorship visa, other colleagues with same level of experience or even less were earning double what i was earning...but i kept telling myself, this will not be forever. But when i got my citizenship, it's like i was launched into a new world. I left the company and got a job with a Swedish company in UK that paid me a fortune compared to my previous salary. Not just that, by virtue of being an EU citizen 27 countries became open to me where i could go work and i took advantage of these benefits.

So you see, it can be done. Was it easy? Not at all, i went through hell. But i knew what i wanted for my life, had a plan and worked extremely hard and while i might not be rich, I think i have managed to achieve some of my dreams. You are still young brother, at your age i didn't have what you had. You CAN definitely do this.

So what is my advice?
Moving countries is not always the solution at times. If you haven't sorted out your approach and self-belief, regardless of wherever you go; you'll have the same problems. Also, whatever you do, get a second nationality before you return to Nigeria as that alone will open untold doors for you in future, even if things don't go to plan in Nigeria you know you can always activate plan b (second nationality). Start networking and investing in yourself, it won't yield fruits immediately but don't be discouraged, eventually your hardwork will pay off. The truth is advanced societies don't care about the colour of your skin all they care about is that you have something that they need! Make yourself that which they need!!

And when your situation improves and feel like you have achieved some of your dreams. Start investing in Nigeria. The country doesn't need more job seekers. It needs entrepreneurs. This is my story, I hope it motivates you to be strong.

Impressive

ShyWhale:
I am a Nigerian in Germany with a German Masters degree. It's quite difficult to get professional jobs in Germany as an African as we are usually the last of the pack. The only luck I ever had was to get internships, internships that takes several months to get and usually only for short periods. The high percentage of Africans even with German Phds doing menial jobs is highly discouraging and depressing. Most are trapped in the race for survival and I can't imagine myself living life like them. I feel I could do better with my skills and education that spreads across Europe's top countries.

I made the decision to return to Nigeria, harness my skills and start up a processing company. At 25 and the sole breadwinner of an extended family, they are asking me to stay put, saying that the Nigerian environment is not good for business (I feel they are only scared of losing out on the goodies they get from me).

Also last year, the family introduced me to a female in the UK, talking about marriage to her. The said lady is a Nigerian within my age range, but born and raised in the UK. Though I have been to the UK severally to see her, I have made no commitments whatsoever as she is not the kind of lady I would marry all things being equal. She and the family have however given me a ultimatum to decide now.


What do you advice?

You are the breadwinner of an extended family at 25 years?

Are they all disabled? No one works?

ysmd:
I agree with you , but not everyone in 9ja got their jobs with connection.

Hi, please I sent you a private mail

karika2018:
Before you decide to come to nigeria.......

save at list 2million naira in the bank.......it would help atleast a little

try looking for jobs in the middle east........


but here are the best countries in my opinion as someone who have travelled and also live abroad


united states.......this is the best country in the world


australia

canada

bahamas

trinidad and tobago




do not marry that lady....



good luck

What's in Trinidad & Tobago?

I'm asking for myself a friend.

karika2018:
Before you decide to come to nigeria.......

save at list 2million naira in the bank.......it would help atleast a little

try looking for jobs in the middle east........


but here are the best countries in my opinion as someone who have travelled and also live abroad


united states.......this is the best country in the world


australia

canada

bahamas

trinidad and tobago




do not marry that lady....



good luck

The way you add "do not marry that lady" join eh, I laugh no be small.

It's quite unfortunate that I stumbled on this post very late (almost 2 years after). However, I am sure that the OP must have made a good decision; and I would appreciate if he could let us know what his final decision was.

That being said, there is a big illusion down here regarding the west. Many people (read Nigerians) think it's all rosy out there and would rather do a menial job with a PhD qualification in Germany or Canada than to make that bold decision of coming back home. They think it's your village people at work when you eventually decide to come home. Pathetic!

I do not know what name to call such a low self esteem mentality, and I always wonder how we have settled to live with such a low, weak, and timid mentality. Listen, there is an hidden hierarchy of preference in the west, and unfortunately, Africa is last on the scale with Nigeria sitting rock bottom on the list.

Unless you are an IT guru, extremely brilliant and exceptional, your chances of doing anything professional in the west is less than 10%. Except otherwise, you have an EU/US passport. Therefore, in most cases, the best option is to come back home, try your hands on a couple of things, and if it doesnt work, you can then consider going back to europe or any other location of choice.

The crux of my argument is that coming home is a viable option, and if there's any one else in this kind of situation, do not let anyone, be it your family member or friends, force or convince you into living an unfulfilled life that you will later regret, in the name of staying abroad.

My 2 cents!

mroyato:
It's quite unfortunate that I stumbled on this post very late (almost 2 years after). However, I am sure that the OP must have made a good decision; and I would appreciate if he could let us know what his final decision was.

That being said, there is a big illusion down here regarding the West. Many people (read Nigerians) think it's all rosy out there and would rather do a menial job with a PhD qualification in Germany or Canada than to make that bold decision of coming back home. They think it's your village people at work. Pathetic!

I do not know what name to call such a low self esteem and I always wonder how we have settled to live with such a low, weak, and timid mentality. Listen, there is an hidden hierarchy of preference in the west, and unfortunately, Africa is last on the scale with Nigeria sitting rock bottom on the list.

Unless you are an IT guru, extremely brilliant and exceptional, your chances of doing anything professional in the west is less than 10%. Except otherwise, you have an EU/US passport. Therefore, in most cases, the best option is to come back home, try your hands on a couple of things, and if it doesnt work, you can then consider going back to europe or any other location of choice.

The crux of my argument is that coming home is a viable option, and if there's any one else in this kind of situation, do not let anyone, be it your family member or friends, force or convince you into living an unfulfilled life that you will later regret, in the name of staying abroad.

My 2 cents!

Going back home is not a viable option