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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by BiniSupremacist: 8:51pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 8:52pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 8:54pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
BiniSupremacist:Nisai say whether the whip no too much for you? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 9:05pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
BiniSupremacist:Erukeru abi lala lenu. ![]() Tao11, seems this your student will never succeed in history. you should register him as an apprentice under Miyetti Allah. Trekking with cows from sokoto to Edo should make him much more useful to his Edo community than the disservice he is doing to the Oba and the community here. 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 9:06pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
nisai:Buhaaaaaaaaa! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by BiniSupremacist: 9:10pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
nisai: Yorubas as usual are cowards who are good at mouth making |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 9:17pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
BiniSupremacist:Yes Gregyboy aka Edeyoung. This is why the 'cowards' leave you to the mercy of an 'ordinary' lady whom had whipped ganbo and bamu tribal marks out of your fat cheek. What an idiota! ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:23pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
BiniSupremacist:You really mean that it is IMPOSSIBLE for a Benin person to admit truth? ![]() Cc: UGBE634 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:31pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
nisai:I’m dead. ![]() 1 Like
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 9:33pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
KingOKON:Stop lying to yourself because Oramiyan wasnt an Igodomigodo trash. Please who was Ohen Okun that was one of the pioneer visitors to Portguese king ��? The reason is that in this visit of Ohen-Okun as Benin Ambassador to Portugal ,he promoted Ughoton to a higher level. Ughoton became known in the world apart from its relevance as the port of Benin. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 9:37pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TAO12:He is not answering. Perhaps he left to weep out the pain before it transforms to cancer. Take it easy on him, pls. Eti so omo na di egbere already now! 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 9:37pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TAO12:Leave that clown 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 9:40pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 9:48pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TAO12: You are getting it all wrong. I don't need to defend my history or Benin Kingdom because Benin's create history, we don't tell stories. I know my history. As a matter of fact, I know who my ancestral fathers are. I'm only trying to help you discover whom yours is because obviously the yorubas best option is that he fell from the sky or trecked all the way from mecca ![]() |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 9:53pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
davidnazee: Surely she can't claim Lagos, unless she wants to entrap herself in a big spider web. First of all, the city of Lagos can only be argued between the benins and the a awories to start with. No other yoruba tribe has claim to Lagos. Maybe you should ask her the initial name that the awories named Lagos before the Benins established it and named it Eko. Let her start from there. Lol |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 9:58pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TAO12:Continue flogging the middle of his vein laddened bald useless head maybe the the veins would rise and give way to senses to travel through to his sensually malnourished brain. Bi ao ba pa ajanaku ka fi iwo re bole, babanla agbonrin oni rini sa wo igbo tiwotiwo. Egbesi toba ni ohun roro awa na asi wu ti gbongbo ti gbongbo. 3 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 9:58pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
UGBE634: You nailed it. I'm glad you understand her modus operandi ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:05pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Fezz:Well if you can’t providence for what you say, then you’re simply saying stories. If something must push to narrate a story, then that same thing must push to back up your story with evidence, otherwise your story is nothing but SuperStory. I'm only trying to help you discover whom yours is because obviously the yorubas best option is that he fell from the sky or trecked all the way from meccaNo, I will tell you my story. The only difference is that I can substantiate mine you can’t substantiate yours. Oduduwa is a Yoruba from Oke-Ora says the Ife account of his historical roots. Ogiso Igodo fell from the sky and crash landed in Benin city, right? Or the fictional Mr. Idu tracked from Rome to Edo state, right? LMAO! *... Get rid of your ego and you shall find the truth that you seek.I have ego. I’m not seeking to know anything I already know. I am only here to debunk Benin lies like I’ve been doing. And I’ve been singlehandedly flogging all Benin liars for years. Bring me the guy i your video let me flog his skull too. Or is that guy in the video you? LMAO! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 10:08pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TAO12:Shikena! 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 10:10pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TAO12: You claim oduduwa is from oke-ora which is a big lie. Give us detailed proof to show that any compound in ile-ife has claimed oduduwa as their son. Also mention who his parents are, if he truly originated from oke-ora it shouldn't be a problem for eye witnesses to tell us all about his childhood days. Just mention the compound that claims him in ile-ife as their son. I'm waiting |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 10:24pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TAO12: Funny you ![]() ![]() The name of Ogisos father is Odudu. I can go further to tell you whom fathered Odudu if you care to learn more from me ![]() ![]() Like I said earlier, Benin is all about history and history is Benin. We don't tell stories, we create history. ![]() |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:28pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Fezz:When a typical non-Yoruba Nigerian encounters a Lagos indigene, such non-Yoruba is frightened immediately to have met a superior human being. I feel your pain. First of all, the city of Lagos can only be argued between the benins and the a awories to start with. No other yoruba tribe has claim to Lagos.And Aworis are aliens that can not be encountered on Nairaland. Right ? ![]() Oba Akiolu said and I paraphrase: Lagos does NOT belong to Benin kingdom. Lol. Maybe you should ask her the initial name that the awories named Lagos before the Benins established it and named it Eko. Let her start from there. Lol Your cranium is full of relaxers instead of brain. Let me educate you. Yes this will get you mad but truth doesn’t care how you feel. 1. The idea that Lagos island was established or named (Eko) by Binis is a big fat myth that developed from Benin and was first published by them in the 1950s. 2. This is because, the received published accounts that existed many decades before the Benin myth already confirmed that the name Eko [contraction of Ereko] was named by Yorubas. ~ See: D’Avezac (1845: p.26). 3. Also, Lagos island had long, long been named Eko by Yorubas prior to when any of the foreign elements (viz. Aja, Benin, or Ijaw) immigrated to the area for the first time [to take part in the European coastal trade]. ~ See: Alan C. Burns (1929: p.44). 4. In the light of the foregoing received accounts, the reality then appears to be that: The Binis immigrated to Lagos in the mid/late 1500s like other groups. They set up their own camp on the part of the island allocated to them. They then encountered the name Eko as the pre-existing name of the island of which their camp occupies a fraction. The name Eko then slowly flowed overtime into the their lexicon and ultimately acquired the meaning ‘camp’. This is quite corroborated with the fact that some older words actually exist for camp in the Bini language, and those are: Ago [and perhaps Oxogbo]. Cheers! Cc: nisai, gomojam. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:38pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Fezz:You claimed it is a big a lie because you are about to prove how it is a lie. Go on. While waiting for your proof. The families from which all Ooni’s descended is Oduduwa’s family, dullard. And Oke-Ora is a hilly settlement from one of the many hills surrounding the Ife bowl. By the way, you are yet to tell us how Igodo sky-dived from the sky and crash landed at Benin city round about. Also, you haven’t said a word about how Idu trecked all the way from Rome to Edo state. That must have been a very tiring journey. We’re waiting for the details. Also mention who his parents are, if he truly originated from oke-ora it shouldn't be a problem for eye witnesses to tell us all about his childhood days. Just mention the compound that claims him in ile-ife as their son. I'm waiting The names of Obatala’s parents are not given in the Ife traditional accounts. Neither are the names of any of the other early Ife dramatis personae given in Ife traditional account. Oduduwa is not the exception. He is just like others. Ife account insists, however, that he is from the hilly settlement of Oke-Ora, hence his cognomen, Osin-Ora. Who is Mr. Idu’s daddy? How long did it take Mr. Idu to track from Rome to Edo state? Did Igodo’s parachute fail when he was diving from the sky to Edo state? All these we need to know. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:51pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Fezz:You actually meant to say “someone that know his Nollywood scripts”. A so-called history that is unsubstantiated is nothing more than a SuperStory — A NollyWood script from the stables of Pete Edoche. ![]() My advice to you is for you to know where your ancestors came from before you come on nairaland to try and debunk other people's ancestory.I have educated you on that already. Do you have a selective seeing disease? Let me enlighten you a bit. Ogiso Igodo didn't fall from the sky. The title simply means he has devine attributes coming directly from heaven (sky). In Benin we know ogiso Igodos ancestory and that is why I'm telling you to go and find yoursWell! Only two received traditional Benin account exist on Igodo. One says he came from heaven, the other says that he is an emissary sent from Ile-Ife to organize the primitive Edos into some form of supra-chiefdom. One sounds like a romanticization of his life, the other sounds like the history of his life. Whichever you love to go with, these are Benin accounts. The name of Ogisos father is Odudu. I can go further to tell you whom fathered Odudu if you care to learn more from meAnd his father was the first to fry dodo in the world. He invented table tenis. And ruled over the Australian Aboriginal. I can also go on and on. In other words, when everyone choose to pull out unsubstantiated stories from their anus, anything goes and everything is fair. Provide me with the received account of anything you want to say otherwise, you are simply typing up another Nollywood script. Just in case you are curious to learn more about Benin ancestors go and read "great benin" by Omoregie.The same S. B. Omoregie that first came up with the forged version of Ekaladerhan in the year 1970 or which Omoregie?? The same Omoregie who said Ekaladerhan is one and the same person as Oranmiyan or another Omoregie? The same Omoregie who simply scratched his head and looked away when asked to cite a source or name an informant for his crappy SuperStory, or another one? Like I said earlier, Benin is all about history and history is Benin. We don't tell stories, we create history.Well I have only been debunking Nollywood scripts so far. You are yet to talk about history — which is evidence based accounts. Not anus retrieved stories. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 10:58pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TAO12: Yeaaaaahhh right!!.. tell that to the birds. Ooni is a chief priest so you can't associate him with oduduwas family which are the Ogisos ![]() Don't get me wrong though, there is nothing wrong in being a chief priest, I liken him to being the Pope of Nigeria but you can't classify him as having the same royal blood as the Oba of Benin. I'm trying to massage your ego, hope it worked ![]() ![]() Until you guys correct your past errors you can never get the truth that you seek. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:04pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Fezz:Well it is the Oba of Benin who is a priest (sorry Grand-Chief priest) as far as the overall head of Holy Arousa Cathedral is concerned. LMAO! Oh, since he also rules Benin, then I guess he has a dual role then. Oba of Benin — a priest and a king. ![]() ![]() Until you guys correct your past errors you can never get the truth that you seek.You mean the errors we committed by ‘mArGiNiLiZiNg’ your folks thus leading to your decades of disgruntled feelings, and the strong grip of the minority complex syndrome which has been holding you all. Is that the errors you’re talking about? Ok, on behalf of our fathers, we say sorry for the mArGiNaLiZaTiOn. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 11:07pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TAO12: It is very easy to overlook your replies because 95% of observers here already know your aim. Even when you come across authentic proof you tend to debunk them and add a little bit of sarcasm as a means of distraction. Your sole aim is to debunk debunk and debunk. That is why majority of people here don't see you anymore as a true historian. Personally I believe you are on payroll and I don't blame you because this is your source of getting paid. It's okay, but just be a little bit more realistic in your research findings and try to appreciate a bit of Benin historical achievements every once in a while. Cheers! |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 11:11pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TAO12: Errors in the sense of telling history as it is without fabrications. Place the Kings in their rightful positions and watch how your true history unfolds. Truth unlocks everything. Cheers! |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:17pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Fezz:Yes, to debunk Benin lies. Who Binis love: Those who give them a free pass to lie without any reaction of caution or refutation. No I am NOT one of those. Hate me. ![]() Even when you come across authentic proof you tend to debunk them and add a little bit of sarcasm as a means of distraction.Show one example of an AuThEnTic pRoOf from Binis that I laughed off. There is none. Instead it is you who have been giving me excuses upon excuses as to why you are not willing to type your best argument. Yet you are willing to type your weakest argument, right? Your sole aim is to debunk debunk and debunk.Yes I debunk lies using facts, evidence, proof, and ratiocination. That is why majority of people here don't see you anymore as a true historian.Oh really? Name me one non-Benin who thinks I have not been doing a wonderful job debunking Benin lies using fact. There is none. Not a single soul one. Personally I believe you are on payroll and I don't blame you because this is your source of getting paid.You are allowed to be deluded. But sha don’t go the Israel DMW route. It's okay, but just be a little bit more realistic in your research findings and try to appreciate a bit of Benin historical achievements every once in a while. Cheers!Yes, I appreciate the true history of Benin — such as the fact that they were able to learn bronze casting, they were able to exercise some good control over quite a number of Edo villages in addition to Benin city, etc. But when you all come to say your Oba own land from here to Europe, and that you once ruled from Lagos to Japan, etc., that’s when I come with my factual nuclear weapons. The solution is simple: Stop lying, or ask questions, Or do both. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:21pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Fezz:Of Benin and Yoruba, the only ethnic group who has been unanimously called out by the historians of African history for fabrication and blatant falsehood are the Binis — vis-a-vis the Izoduwa forgery. The Yoruba history that I have presented here (at least lately) have been in sync with the finds and conclusions of the historical scholarship of African history. 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by BiniSupremacist: 11:24pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 1:16am On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12: Hahahaha.. are you trying to say that Benins learnt bronze casting from the yorubas? You are ridiculous. Where did you get this from? Please don't let your supporters laugh at you because it's the joke of the century ![]() I once asked you to mention the name the awories called Lagos before the Benins established the land and named it Eko, but you have stylishly avoided that question. I am still waiting for you to give me the name of the community Oduduwa grew up. We want to know the compound he grew up . Don't tell me it is a hilly place blah blah blah, or that it is the same community as the ooni blah blah!. Be precise and mention the name of the compound that raised Oduduwa in ile-ife. Let's see proof According to Olugbo of Ugbo it took Oduduwa 16 good years to learn ife dialect, and you are here deceiving the public that Oduduwa was born and grew up in ile-ife. I have told you before to go and find out more about your real ancestors because you are obviously lost. 1 Like |
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