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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by BiniSupremacist: 12:31pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12: Now you boring me....... They, should leave you with me so i will sense inside you, |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by BiniSupremacist: 12:32pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12: I will never even quote egharevba anyday as refrence to benin history you should know me by now |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:34pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
Fezz:Why most the south westerners be an excuse? And where did you get this crap of a pleading excuse from. Chief Jacob U. Egharevba was the only Benin historian who was ready to compromise with the Yorubas because he needed his book to be published in order to get his PhD degree. That is why he allowed the Yorubas to adjust his initial work to their own ideology.Crappy excuse! Port harcourt press published his work especially the one that talks about sending your obas head to Ife. I guess Portharvourt wanted to give him pHD. The Yorubas used his work to link the Benins to the Yorubas in post colonial era. Egharevba tried to make up for his initial mistakes by publishing other editions after his first book.Oh really! Tell me more about the edition where he says Oduduwa is from Benin. Or the edition where he says bronze casting was invented by the Binis. The Yorubas claim that Ighueghae was asked to come to Benin kingdom to teach the Benins the act of bronze casting. The first thing you should ask yourself is does Ighueghae sound like an Ife name? What is the meaning of Ighueghae in Ife?You Binis are so irredeemably dumb. No Yoruba gave any name to any messenger sent to Benin to teach you people. It was your own daddies and mommies who said that. That is your account. It is not my fault that you have zero clue what your traditional account says. Let me tell you his true origin and his family tree is well known in Benin which you can't say the same in Ife. If you can then tell me all about his family and ancestral lineage if he was that important to youAbout who? I’m about to stone you. Lol. Go to Igun street with machine guns and kill them all for the sins committed by their fore-father who told Europeans that a certain IguIgha from Ife taught Binis bronze casting. Ighueghae was the son of ezohe, a descendant of ighido who was an ogiso during the ogiso odionwere era from Igun.Well, your forefathers disagree with you. They have given the traditional account. And the ink has dried up. And the account from you fathers said a certain IgueIgha was sent from Ife to Benin to teach Benin bronze casting. Channel your energy accordingly. Hold your forebears accountable. Summon their spirit for questioning. Uptil today Igun street is well recognised by unicef for their tremendous skill in bronze casting.Oh What a news! I didn’t know that. Now I know /s Tell me the location in Ife where bronze casting was practiced because there should be evidence that such a place existed if the Yorubas were so good in bronze casting just as Igun street exists today in Benin.Many, but I’d name some: Obalaara land, Ogunladin grove, Olokun grove, etc. Ife stopped bronze casting around the late 1400s or a little later. Attached below is a well-annotated picture from S. P Blier (2015), p. 88. showing one of the last families who still carried on the tradition up to the last century. www.nairaland.com/attachments/13442211_4eb307ff75474630ad2d76c96f27be75_jpeg_jpega5b0dbedf2da7dfd560eff046b407c3f I'm going on a tour to Ife very soon to discover these things by myself and I suggest you go to Benin to discover true history for yourself as well if you truly seek for the truth. Cheers!Lol. A fair way of consoling yourself. I shall not be tracked down by any Benin murderer. I don’t live in Nigeria by the way. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Fezz: 12:44pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12: I find your sarcastic remarks as very dry and boring so forgive me if I always skip your long epistles. So because Ereko was written on that picture you want me to believe that it was not recently inscribed on the picture. Anyone can caption any name on any picture in the 21st century, so please try harder. I hope you know that the earliest founders of Eko are known as the Aonins (meaning descendants of ini benin) which are a group of Benin soldiers who decided to stay back and settle on that land because they couldn't accomplish the task assigned to them by the oba of Benin. This was far before the Benin Kingdom established the land and named it Eko. If you want me to school you more on this kindly ask. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:54pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
Fezz:The name ‘Ereko’ still exists till date in Lagos — on the island particularly. We live in the internet age. Stop embarrassing your people publicly on Nairaland. Check it out yourself. Also, please inscribe “Benin” to that picture for me and let it appear as the original. Since anyone can do it. I’d be waiting. Lol. [s]I hope you know that the earliest founders of Eko are known as the Aonins (meaning descendants of ini benin) which are a group of Benin soldiers who decided to stay back and settle on that land because they couldn't accomplish the task assigned to them by the oba of Benin.[/s]TRASH pulled out from your anus as usual. Aworis are the founders of Lagos. Lagos account says this. Even the fraudulent Benin account admits this. I’m not sure what your version is. Your anus’s version I guess. This was far before the Benin Kingdom established the land and named it Eko. If you want me to school you more on this kindly ask.Well, if wishes were horses Binis would ride. Lagos island (NOT even Lagos itself) was established by the owners of all Lagos— Awori-Yoruba. And it was also named as Eko by the Yorubas. I have given you references for each of these two lines of statement. And the references I gave are decades/century earlier than the latter-day Benin version which you’ve been fed from childhood. I would have expected any free-born who is not a slave to bury his head in those materials and learn rather than argue blindly like a typical slave of the Yoruba-Oba of Benin. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 1:02pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
Fezz:You sure do have a good lead in your storyline but I have questions you need give answer to, such as: What did year Ogiso Owodo died ? What year did Ekeladeran found Ughoton ? Can you mention Ekeladeran's descendants in Ughoton ? Can you mention how many children did Ekelaradan had in Igala ? Can you mention how many children did Ekelaradan had in Ileife ? |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:05pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:Listen, stop hijacking my argument and spinning things around like it was yours. Are you from the Eweka family-line, from Oranmiyan, from Ife? NO Then you are a slave of the Oba without any but or if. And you admitted it. Only those from your Oba’s family line, from Eweka, from Oranmiyan, from Ife (PATRILINEALLY) are NOT his slave by default. If they chose to be his slave, then that’s a different question. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 1:05pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:stop talking from yewa local government your people are so irredeemable and dumb leave your hut travel and see how things are done, you have read so much about slavery in consonance with your tribe and you want to associate same with the Binis it is not so we are a noble people ask your better's in Nigeria how it done. in this case the igbos, they would know because they know traveling is a type/part of education. Call Igboid for lectures now so you won't think I am not giving what is on ground you clown. cc:igboid |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:07pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:I am NOT sure if there is any Avenue called Yewa in the part of the world I live. [I hate to say it]. Why are you triggered by the way? You mean you can’t withstand evidence-backed statements? You mean you really want to be connected to Lagos at all cost? No, it’s NOT by force na. I can imagine what you feel like, you’ve been too comfortable with falsehood from a very young. You breathed falsehood without knowing it is falsehood. You embraced it with all sincerity. But now the truth has come (with evidence) and falsehood is perishing (causing you great distress), but falsehood is by its very nature meant to eventually perish. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 1:26pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:who the Lagos help, I was addressing your last paragraph you bastard |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 1:29pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:They don't have a choice, it is a uniting stool for us all. And also our Oba can't be from dirty Ife. Ife is too small for our Oba to come from. If after all my explanations of the word 'we' then you are still slowpoking then I am afraid you are irredeemable and you need a refund of your school fees. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:37pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
BiniSupremacist:The Lagos account was earlier than the Benin’s account. As such it has no motivation to be reacting to any earlier account. The same can not be said about the contrary later-day Benin account which came many, many decades after the Lagos account. I thought you denied eyewitness account as the only basis for history. Lol. Oh, I get. You deny it only when it feels convenient to deny it. We are also not going to use that of the beninsWe are using records below 1914What happened to the people living before 1914? Just curious. ![]() Anyways, there is NO pre-1914 account which says Bini conquered Lagos in order to settle on the island. All the pre-1914 accounts (which talks about how the Binis came originally to settle on the island) agree that they settled peacefully after they had sought a granted permission to land from the native owners. ~ See: J. B. Wood (1878), J. O. George (1895), J. B. Losi (1914), and then A. C. Burns (1929) which is based on Wood and Losi according to Robert Smith. If you request earliest eye witness by ulsmierUlsheimer’s notes (of 1603-4) — which I have — does not say one word about how the Binis came originally from Benin to settle on the island of Lagos. It simply speaks about when and how he met them (i.e. the descendants of the first Binis who migrated there from Benin) already living in only one of the different ‘towns’ on the island . He speaks of meeting them living there (in 1603-4) in an armed unit apparently because they’ve been tasked (around the year 1603-4) by their king to ensure that a certain Benin town (also situated apparently along the Atlantic coast, but closer to Lagos than to Benin), which had disobeyed its king, is returned back to status quo. Nothing is said in Ulsheimer’s account about how their ancestors originally migrated from Benin in the 1500s to settle on the island. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:37pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:I love you too. 3 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:38pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:Well his family members are not his slave. You are. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 1:41pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:They don't have a choice, it is a uniting stool for us all. And also our Oba can't be from dirty Ife. Ife is too small for our Oba to come from. If after all my explanations of the word 'we' then you are still slowpoking then I am afraid you are irredeemable and you need a refund of your school fees |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 1:43pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:stop talking from yewa local government your people are so irredeemable and dumb leave your hut travel and see how things are done, you have read so much about slavery in consonance with your tribe and you want to associate same with the Binis it is not so we are a noble people ask your better's in Nigeria how it done. in this case the igbos, they would know because they know traveling is a type/part of education. Call Igboid for lectures now so you won't think I am not giving what is on ground you clown. cc:igboid |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:44pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:This has been debunked. UGBE634:And this too. Come up something new. I have many Benin dullards to teach. You’re or the only one from Benin. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 1:45pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:The Oba of Benin is bigger than the ooni of ife, the Alaafin of oyo, and the oba of lagos. If the Alaafin of Oyo comes to Benin he is a slave of the Benin oba of Benin whose surname is AISOKUOBA IGBINOGHODUA |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 1:46pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:stop talking from yewa local government your people are so irredeemable and dumb leave your hut travel and see how things are done, you have read so much about slavery in consonance with your tribe and you want to associate same with the Binis it is not so we are a noble people ask your better's in Nigeria how it done. in this case the igbos, they would know because they know traveling is a type/part of education. Call Igboid for lectures now so you won't think I am not giving what is on ground you clown. cc:igboid it has not � debunked leave your offa village and seek civilization and knowledge |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:47pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:Eweka-2 disagrees with you. Argue with Eweka-2. 1 Like
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:47pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 1:49pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 1:50pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
[quote author=TAO12 post=101080820][/quote]stop talking from yewa local government, your people are so irredeemable and dumb leave your hut travel and see how things are done, you have read so much about slavery in consonance with your tribe and you want to associate same with the Binis, it is not so we are a noble people ask your better's in Nigeria how it's done. in this case the igbos, they would know because they know traveling is a type/part of education. Call Igboid for lectures now so you won't think I am not giving what is on ground you clown. cc:igboid, it has not been debunked. leave your offa village and seek civilization and knowledge |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:59pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:Akenzua-2 his son does not agree with you. More conclusively, historians of African history has exposed Erediauwa’s position and Ewuare-2’s position as based on fraud. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:01pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:Should I take it that your repetition of a debunked comment is due to lack of content?? 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:03pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:I believe Eredieuwa who was born in 1923 should know better about his line than you a slimy bastard from oshogbo. besides he is far more educated than any of his ancestors with a first degree and masters in law from Cambridge University. And with education you know one can't be easily deceived I will take his account over his ancestors |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:08pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:Oh you believe Erediauwa who was born in 1923. But you don’t believe his father (Akenzua-2) and his grand father (Eweka-2) — and their predecessors — because they all were suffering from collective amnesia. Oh! Or because Erediauwa lived before them and was closer to the distant past than them. LMAO! Also, you chose to NOT believe the historians of African history who agree with these predecessors, while also debunking Erediauwa’s 1970s fiction as being rooted in inferiority complex. It must be a really tough job defending the modern day Benin forgery. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:08pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:No it is so that you learn the original intent of the post,which you don't seem to learn because you are an Amala eater and a subhuman that is why I was calling your better's to come and lecture you as you are from a slave tribe and you are certainly demented having descended from a slave whose brain was tormented. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:10pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:It makes you look dumber than you actually are when you repost a refuted comment in response to the refutation. You should have pointed out where the latest refutation was inadequate rather than childishly hoping that may be repetition will convert falsehood into truth. 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:12pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:This is a man and his line, he said this is where he came from, should I start arguing his origin that he is from ogbomosho. I believe he is lenient enough to know where he came from. if he disagreed with his father, he must have seen that there are some shortfall in the father's story. As an educated mind, he decided to correct |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:13pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
UGBE634:And I chose to believe his ancestors (starting from Akenzua-2 to Eweka-2 all the way up) and historians of African history. What’s your problem with that, oba’s slave? |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 2:16pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
TAO12:shut up you fool, what did you refute there, that I tried telling we don't associate the way you associate in your slowpoke tribe. have I done what is not right. as a subhuman that you are I know understanding is hard for you that is why I had to send it over and over so it can be easy. This was some of the reasons I called your betters by far to come and educate you |
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