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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by SmartyPants(m): 3:30pm On Apr 24, 2021
Yusman316:

Actually if u check the numbers of Muslims worldwide and the numbers of those involved in terrorism it is a small percentage. So can't tell me a few thousands out of a billion should carry the day

Correct. The greater percentage of all Muslims are peaceful but there are other ways to look at this data. Look at the following logical statements and see if you agree:

1. Human beings love life and therefore are naturally predisposed to avoid violence if there is a high chance ha they will die in the course of the violence. I say this to say that the human being is generally peaceful as a natural law of self-preservation, and will only become violent where he or she feels less likely to be harmed or when compelled to defend themselves. This is a general rule to which exceptions will be established in the following statements.

2. In every religion, there are those who take things to the extreme. We call them extremists. These are people for whom the previous logical statement do not apply, as they believe in pleasing their God at any and every cost. To some these are fanatics, to others, these are the true believers who give the tenets of their religion literal interpretation to the highest degree possible with total disregard for personal cost and other societal conventions. Whichever way you view them, every religion has them but they are usually a minority.

3. Muslims are generally peaceful but there are extremists, from the category above, who are willing to kill and willing to die in order to please God. Other religions have people who are similarly willing to go to any length.

So what we are doing is that we are not comparing the normal people of each religion, who tend to behave in the same way in terms of obedience to natural laws of self-preservation.

We are comparing those who take a literal interpretation of the principles of their religion. In that context, would yo agree with e that Muslim extremists are dispproportionately violent when compared to all other extremists?
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by globalresource: 3:30pm On Apr 24, 2021
Coldshisha:



Face your Christianity and pay your tithe to your Slave masters so they can buy private jets while you have empty wallets

No wonder western world hardly take backward African Christians serious

You guys are not worshiping God or Jesus but the image of your colonial masters and yahoo pastors

.

It is better worship anyone with peace than your religion keep causing trouble and bombing innocent people cos of your promised of imaginary virgins. Rubbish people

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by jamace(m): 3:32pm On Apr 24, 2021
Bandits are not Nigerians, so they can not be rehabilitated...
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by dlevi(m): 3:36pm On Apr 24, 2021
Don't you that that is the very season why they created them.
Emperor5:
This Gumi is terrorist. How can you ask government to corporate with baseless demand of terrorist
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Cnach: 3:37pm On Apr 24, 2021
Mikehot:
Abdul need i tell you the tithe is to fund the construction of express roads you smash your skull for free at every Friday


Need i tell you that buying jet is a more profitable investment than islamic terrorism which you use in syphoning scarce resources

Need i tell you that Muslim Terrorists have rendered the roads unsafe and your Muslim clerics are wishing they have jets now
coldshisha what says thou about his claims
oya challenge him with facts.
none of u can condemn what is bad but bringing up religious fight.
How on earth can a grown up man start saying rubbish, the federal government should give bandits amnesty on what bases exactly? for drilling oil on their land without giving them their fraction or mining gold from their homes without settlement? Amnesty for what exactly? if they think that Nigeria is hard for them can they count how many southern youths who graduated from school but still unemployed, all they did and still doing is catering for themselves legitimately. what have they suffered in the hands of Nigerian government more than we down here but we never bear arms. what reason can any sane person base his request for their amnesty? I too vesi o, I swear. which country in this world are we copying their style of governance. omo eh

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by gbengu(m): 3:46pm On Apr 24, 2021
Cancer is better.

It's epidemic spreading like a virus. From Asia to Africa, from Europe to America, its same virus consuming them.


Mikehot:
If the world treats Islam the way China and Russia do their would be global peace


Islam is a cancer to society
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by anigbajumo(m): 3:46pm On Apr 24, 2021
babajeje123:

But why are you guys treating Boko Haram with kids' gloves? I haven't seen a Northerner or a Muslim condemning Gumi who is asking for soft landing for these terrorists.

See, we are in a state of helplessness. The Governor find it hard to deal with these people decisively and it has been worsening so far tell me wat other means we can use, even if a soldier were kidnapped or police they also pay ransom so wat are we talking about?? If the Government av the zeal or capacity to bring the war straight to the forest nobody will be talking about armnesty but they av not, should we fold our arms and continue to kill people for fun??

I won't blame Gumi but the irresponsible Government that can't crush them without wasting time, if the government av been brutal enough nobody will be talking about state pardon, For ur info no right thinking Muslim will support bandits or BH. They are threat to Islam and humanity.

Check out my monicker on this thread and see how I lament about the irresponsibility of Nigeria Government.

https://www.nairaland.com/6520801/el-rufai-confirms-killing-abducted-greenfield#101054485
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by mrkia(m): 3:54pm On Apr 24, 2021
Coldshisha:



Face your Christianity and pay your tithe to your Slave masters so they can buy private jets while you have empty wallets

No wonder western world hardly take backward African Christians serious

You guys are not worshiping God or Jesus but the image of your colonial masters and yahoo pastors

.
God bless you. Subhaanal laah! One of them was vehemently charging Israelis army to clear all the Muslims in Middle belt on a trend here this morning, of course, I replied him that Israelites are Jewish so they hate Christenity as much as they hate Islam. But you know what? Even their ELITES either don't know the value of the brains they have so, to make the best usage of it, is a big problem for them from their elites to the downtrodden ones.

Imagine reading a verse in a Bible which contradicts the one you had just read above and attributed the discrepancy to the spiritual realms.

Alhamdulillah for being a proud Muslim

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Yusman316(m): 3:58pm On Apr 24, 2021
SmartyPants:


Correct. The greater percentage of all Muslims are peaceful but there are other ways to look at this data. Look at the following logical statements and see if you agree:

1. Human beings love life and therefore are naturally predisposed to avoid violence if there is a high chance ha they will die in the course of the violence. I say this to say that the human being is generally peaceful as a natural law of self-preservation, and will only become violent where he or she feels less likely to be harmed or when compelled to defend themselves. This is a general rule to which exceptions will be established in the following statements.

2. In every religion, there are those who take things to the extreme. We call them extremists. These are people for whom the previous logical statement do not apply, as they believe in pleasing their God at any and every cost. To some these are fanatics, to others, these are the true believers who give the tenets of their religion literal interpretation to the highest degree possible with total disregard for personal cost and other societal conventions. Whichever way you view them, every religion has them but they are usually a minority.

3. Muslims are generally peaceful but there are extremists, from the category above, who are willing to kill and willing to die in order to please God. Other religions have people who are similarly willing to go to any length.

So what we are doing is that we are not comparing the normal people of each religion, who tend to behave in the same way in terms of obedience to natural laws of self-preservation.

We are comparing those who take a literal interpretation of the principles of their religion. In that context, would yo agree with e that Muslim extremists are dispproportionately violent when compared to all other extremists?
I totally agree with u. But do u also know some of these extremists are actually fighting, killing, maiming, dying and destroying for other things best known to them and not God. But in most cases use religion as a template to gain acceptance and followership by the gullible
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by EndBuhariNow(m): 4:01pm On Apr 24, 2021
We can negotiate with arm wielding terrorists fulanis but peaceful protesters demanndifor their rights for self-determination are not worthy of negotiations... what a country..
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Yusman316(m): 4:02pm On Apr 24, 2021
Cnach:

coldshisha what says thou about his claims
oya challenge him with facts.
none of u can condemn what is bad but bringing up religious fight.
How on earth can a grown up man start saying rubbish, the federal government should give bandits amnesty on what bases exactly? for drilling oil on their land without give them their fraction or mining gold from their homes without settlement? Amnesty for what exactly? if they think that Nigeria is hard for them can they count how many southern youths who graduated from school but still unemployed, all they did and still doing is catering for themselves legitimately. what have they suffered in the hands of Nigerian government more than we down here but we never bear arms. what reason can any sane person base his request for their amnesty? I too vesi o, I swear. which country in this world are copying their style of governance. omo eh
Aptly put
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by yungchop: 4:10pm On Apr 24, 2021
seun, a very big shame on you. just because if the money you'll make from the traffic you allowed this pointless and endless plus meaningless tribal and religious bants to go on unchecked? you should bury your head in shame, you and all your mods.

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Zionmdde: 4:15pm On Apr 24, 2021
triple996:
Cristians explain this

She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Ezekiel 23:20 NIV

You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. . . . The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head. Deuteronomy 28:30-31,35

You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5 NLT



grin
Ogbeni sharrap there
How is it ur business wat Christians want to believe or worship as long as their belief don't endanger ur life so sharrap
Ur Islam is busy causing death all over the world, thousands of terrorists working in the name of dat paedophile u call a prophet. So tell ur fellow terrorists to belief whatever rubbish they believe in peace and stop killing others.

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Kubernetes: 4:15pm On Apr 24, 2021
anigbajumo:


That's the hypocrisy of average Nigerian Christian, they see every opportunity to insult Muslims and Islam, not limited to NL but also on Facebook and Twitter. I challenge any Christian here to bring the statistics that Bokoharam kill more Muslims than Christians, BH killed over hundred Muslims in Kano mosque just one day alone, it's still on record that they av killed more Muslims than Christians but many Christians always dance to the tune if hypocrisy.

Exactly

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Nobody: 4:18pm On Apr 24, 2021
Emperor5:
This Gumi is terrorist. How can you ask government to corporate with baseless demand of terrorist

Hate speech!!!! Thats a potential minister of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Your cancel campaign can not work!!!
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Zionmdde: 4:20pm On Apr 24, 2021
SmartyPants:


Correct. The greater percentage of all Muslims are peaceful but there are other ways to look at this data. Look at the following logical statements and see if you agree:

1. Human beings love life and therefore are naturally predisposed to avoid violence if there is a high chance ha they will die in the course of the violence. I say this to say that the human being is generally peaceful as a natural law of self-preservation, and will only become violent where he or she feels less likely to be harmed or when compelled to defend themselves. This is a general rule to which exceptions will be established in the following statements.

2. In every religion, there are those who take things to the extreme. We call them extremists. These are people for whom the previous logical statement do not apply, as they believe in pleasing their God at any and every cost. To some these are fanatics, to others, these are the true believers who give the tenets of their religion literal interpretation to the highest degree possible with total disregard for personal cost and other societal conventions. Whichever way you view them, every religion has them but they are usually a minority.

3. Muslims are generally peaceful but there are extremists, from the category above, who are willing to kill and willing to die in order to please God. Other religions have people who are similarly willing to go to any length.

So what we are doing is that we are not comparing the normal people of each religion, who tend to behave in the same way in terms of obedience to natural laws of self-preservation.

We are comparing those who take a literal interpretation of the principles of their religion. In that context, would yo agree with e that Muslim extremists are dispproportionately violent when compared to all other extremists?

Generally peaceful kee u there!!! . With the hundreds of thousands of Islamic terrorists u open ur mouth waaaa and talk about peace. Even the ones dat not into active terrorism wat have they done to fight against it

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Owologbo(m): 4:20pm On Apr 24, 2021
Coldshisha:



Face your Christianity and pay your tithe to your Slave masters so they can buy private jets while you have empty wallets

No wonder western world hardly take backward African Christians serious

You guys are not worshiping God or Jesus but the image of your colonial masters and yahoo pastors

.
Is it because moslems are not collecting tithe that's why they are using bandit collect money from the people?

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by mrkia(m): 4:46pm On Apr 24, 2021
capitalzero:


How did Islam spread ? Even Muhammed and his successors killed many people. How many people did Jesus and his disciples kill? None!!!
he couldn't have been able to fight any war because he wasn't accepted by his people. So, who was going to fight with him?? They only know Jesus via the pieces wrote by Paul who wasn't Christian. May God � Almighty show them the true path, Aameen
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by SmartyPants(m): 4:46pm On Apr 24, 2021
Zionmdde:


Generally peaceful kee u there!!! . With the hundreds of thousands of Islamic terrorists u open ur mouth waaaa and talk about peace. Even the ones dat not into active terrorism wat have they done to fight against it

I am not the source of your frustration. Seek help.
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by VEXT: 4:49pm On Apr 24, 2021
Head slamming terrorists!!!!

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Ololadeneymar: 4:52pm On Apr 24, 2021
Coldshisha:



I guess when Evans the Kidnapper was unleashing terror we could have blamed the whole 4 billion Christians worldwide
na u do baptism for Evans??

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Kidney1414(m): 4:58pm On Apr 24, 2021
Government should listin to us! Sheik what are u teling us
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Nobody: 5:03pm On Apr 24, 2021
Gumi on cashout mode
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Misterone: 5:07pm On Apr 24, 2021
bastardmod:


Islam has been a violent religion that hates and fights with everyone including itself...Shia vs sunni, sunni vs ahmadiya, Iran Iraq, Saudi Yemen...etc.... No meaningful development from that religion. Christianity gave the world civilization including the handset you are using to type grin tongue tongue tongue
Maybe you should read the history of world civilization before spewing trash on the net.
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by capitalzero: 5:08pm On Apr 24, 2021
mrkia:
he couldn't have been able to fight any war because he wasn't accepted by his people. So, who was going to fight with him?? They only know Jesus via the pieces wrote by Paul who wasn't Christian. May God � Almighty show them the true path, Aameen

Muhammed was expelled from his town and gathered murderers like to kill people. He did not stop at that. He kept on waging wars killing people who oppose him. His followers are still doing the killing till day.
In contrary to Muhammed Jesus said those who used swords to kill would be killed by swords. Jesus was man of peace and loved by the masses.
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Baamm(m): 5:15pm On Apr 24, 2021
It hard not to appreciate Obasanjo. Took a hard stance against OPC. Level Odi when they attacked security forces. Yaardua came with amnesty and since then it blackmail upon blackmail. The song on the lips of the northern elite is that government should grant these criminals amnesty like it was done for Niger delta Militants.
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by onlyhope: 5:21pm On Apr 24, 2021
While my aim is not to talk about religious inclinations or instill religious sentiments, after reading some comments here, I just have to bear my mind about this issue.

Yes, bokoharam are fighting for Islamic cause.

In fact, the major demand of bokoharam is to force Islamic religion on ALL OF US!

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjFpdv7opfwAhUQwKQKHTTnAokQFjALegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw1BF8Oj0fuqUmeSgXytK8T3


https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Listedterroristorganisations/Pages/Boko-Haram.aspx&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjFpdv7opfwAhUQwKQKHTTnAokQFnoECAoQAg&usg=AOvVaw0ug_dpp1CLLZZs7ykP6Igq


https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-27048076&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjFpdv7opfwAhUQwKQKHTTnAokQFnoECAsQAg&usg=AOvVaw0tDjZjrwD_ttBA2tSgMacS


I have to post this so that you as a Muslim can talk to yourselves. Religion should be by choice not by force.
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by witworth(m): 5:24pm On Apr 24, 2021
Mikehot:
If the world treats Islam the way China and Russia do there would be global peace


Islam is a cancer to society
best comment.
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by witworth(m): 5:27pm On Apr 24, 2021
damilola4162:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/kaduna-abductions-banditry-now-war-situation-govt-should-cooperate-gumi/%3famp
this gumi is the best terrorist operative. He's just having a joy ride in a deadly country, his time will come too, he will face the gallow or firing squad.

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Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by GabdelandAgro(m): 5:28pm On Apr 24, 2021
Mikehot:
If the world treats Islam the way China and Russia do there would be global peace


Islam is a cancer to society

Honestly, as we move into Planet Mars, alongside Elon Musk, we will ensure that no single Muslim step foot into that planet

Somebody shout a loud Amen
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by juman(m): 5:32pm On Apr 24, 2021
He is spokeman of the bandits.
He should be arrested.
Re: Gumi On Greenfield Students' Death: Banditry Now War, FG Should Cooperate by Businessman1986(m): 5:41pm On Apr 24, 2021
SmartyPants:


Look I sympathise with peaceful Muslims but I just want to point out to you that this argument is a logical fallacy simply because Evans, and all those you referenced, never went out and did what they did in the name of their religion or God. That's the problem and you must not whitepaper over it by accusing others of bigotry when the facts are that these violent people claim to do what they do in the name of your religion.

And how are the bandits causing mayhem in the name of Allah?

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