nitrogen:

That thread is nonsense. We did not need to spend more than any other club to achieve success in those five years because we had a very good squad (plus depth). Just ask yourself why we went ahead to succeed in Europe within those five years? Got to UCL semis 4-5 times in 5-6 seasons, got to finals 3 times between 2008 and 2013. Don’t tell me it was just about Fergie’s brilliance, because we did not do well in the UCL in prior years.

The thread is nonsense. Fact is the Glazers have spent. We matched City’s spending between 2013 and 2020, with less success because City got the better manager. We’ve had several superstars come and go, also hired other ‘quality’ managers in the same period. It’s really unfair to castigate them.

I will only blame them for not doing their best to get Pep. Very few managers guarantee stability and trophies. Since they’ve missed the train, they should continue to hire and sack for success.

Shalaye ko necessary?

airmark:
How are you guys preparing today?

nitrogen:


Didn’t know that complementing a manager or player means our club should have gotten them. Hmmmmmmm!

Lol... I didn't say so na.
If you were complementing only, then I'm not referring to you

SyIvalord:
This is another proof that many people in this sports section are myopic and aren’t as smart or knowledgeable as they think they are.

They claim to have foresight but they are blinder than a bat. In their attempt to portray themselves as some kind of smartass, they expose their ignorance.

You see some people making bogus claims like “so and so will NEVER achieve so and so” and after some seasons, the person they say will never achieve a particular feat achieves it and they quickly change their stance. It’s like those critics who always told you, you’ll never make it in life but when you finally make it, they start saying shït like they always believed in you. Awon blind Bartimaeus them.

Lol... You dey vex oo.
See Attack

TrebleChamp:
Jodera you see wetin i dey talk ...

afrodoc:





You fall my hand. You no upload graph this time.

Graph for what jare? You and I know that these guys have spent a lot, also most football club owners don’t know football. Dem Abu Dhabi guys know nothing about football, they are so lucky to have Pep. Abramovich continues to hire and sack for success. We should either get a very good manager for stability and success or continue to hire and sack. It is what it is.

KingAlabi:


Man city are a winning team
Liverpool are also a winning team
Leicester, a winning team too
Chelsea a winning team

But they are all at different degrees, do you understand?

Nope, I don't.

benji93:
If you think about it well, until he won he had some shares in the bottling company. It seemed as if he had sold most of his shares, but the recent development shows that he kept some of them .

Any coach that wins champions league, then follow it up with EPL can never be a bottler less than one year from winning ooo.

Else, all the coaches in the world na bottler be that na

Jodera:
Lol... I didn't say so na.
If you were complementing only, then I'm not referring to you

Most here were just complimenting TT for a good job he’s done at Chelsea.

KingAlabi:


Man city are a winning team
Liverpool are also a winning team
Leicester, a winning team too
Chelsea a winning team

But they are all at different degrees, do you understand?

The emphasis is on title winning team or is it about winning random games? If so, you can as well add West Ham, Wolves, Everton, Leeds etc...

nitrogen:

That thread is nonsense. We did not need to spend more than any other club to achieve success in those five years because we had a very good squad (plus depth). Just ask yourself why we went ahead to succeed in Europe within those five years? Got to UCL semis 4-5 times in 5-6 seasons, got to finals 3 times between 2008 and 2013. Don’t tell me it was just about Fergie’s brilliance, because we did not do well in the UCL in prior years.

The thread is nonsense. Fact is the Glazers have spent. We matched City’s spending between 2013 and 2020, with less success because City got the better manager. We’ve had several superstars come and go, also hired other ‘quality’ managers in the same period. It’s really unfair to castigate them.

I will only blame them for not doing their best to get Pep. Very few managers guarantee stability and trophies. Since they’ve missed the train, they should continue to hire and sack for success.

2013-2020 when things don spoil finish.
When City had already bought enough quality players to best SAF to the league title

They thought it was business as usual when Fergie left and refused to buy anybody for Moyes.

After Moyes left and LvG came they were still penny pinching. Buying low quality players just to clinch top 4

As soon as too 4 was clinched their pockets ran dry again

Rinse and repeat with Mourinho, Ole Solsjajar.

When City were breaking records to sign really really quality players (Toure, KdB, D. Silva, Aguero, Mahrez) they were focused on Valencia, Fred and James.

Now that City’s investment is paying off they want to appear serious .

Abramovic sacks and sacks but yet he buys players for his coaches.

Even if Pep comes to Man Utd, he’s going to pull a Mourinho in the end. What’s a brilliant worker without the right tools?

nitrogen:


Most here were just complimenting TT for a good job he’s done at Chelsea.

Okay.. Fair enough.

larride:


Arsenal fan giving advice to Man Utd fans about expectation from their manager.

Irony of life.

Bros You took the words out of me mouth

BARAJ92:
how did your MCM perform in the league, when he won Europa and Carling cup.
What was your MCM results in cup competition, the season he finished with 81 points

Fact is he sacrificed the league for Europa. You can check his line up at the Emirates and White Hart Lane towards the end of the season. United had too many injuries that season and they couldn’t fight on two fronts.

Jose tactically concentrated on Europa knowing winning it qualifies United for CL & it will be the same outcome if he focused solely on the league. He’s a very intelligent man.

In the season Jose got 81 points, he was also a finalist in FA cup.

Ole hasn’t been able to make any final in almost 3 years and the highest point he can get this season even if he wins all the remaining league games is 82 points. With almost £300m spent, you would expect much better.

nitrogen:


Graph for what jare? You and I know that these guys have spent a lot, also most football club owners don’t know football. Dem Abu Dhabi guys know nothing about football, they are so lucky to have Pep. Abramovich continues to hire and sack for success. We should either get a very good manager for stability and success or continue to hire and sack. It is what it is.

Spent enough to clinch top 4, you mean.

Abu Dhabi don’t know about football, yes. But they put football people in charge of football things in the club, instead of turning the club’s administration into the hands of an investment bankers old boy association.

Abu Dhabi guys aren’t lucky to have Pep. They courted, went after him and got him. His appointment was announced before the season ended.

Abramovic doesn’t sack and hire anyhow. He backs it up with players. He doesn’t do hit and miss with managers alone, he does it with players too. And when a player flops, he goes on loan. Or he sells them.

Why? How?

He fvcking put football people in charge of football things.

He bought Chelsea their first league title. He’s doesn’t take a step back concerning player acquisition when it matters. And they’re still buying.

He cares about the club. Wants to win things.


Your pals at OT are only interested in share prices and UCL money. If not they wouldn’t have sacked LvG after he won the FA cup and didn’t finish in the top 4. Or Mourinho, after he won 3 trophies , and top 4 started looking shaky the next season.

Like you said, eeeris whaririss.

patrickmuf:
Didn't we reach the FA Cup final? Have you forgotten so soon?

FA cup final, Yet Ole reach semi finals of all competition last season and was still able to make top 4 but he has been rightfully condemned 4 bottling the semi finals but your MCM could not use those at his disposal to get pass Sevilla in the champions league or even go far in the Carling cup.

Android17:


From "nobody gave chelsea a chance" to "how did anyone expect Jose to win" because you don't know the meaning of the word polarizing. Everyone on this thread knows who the liar is. There is virtually no year in the EPL that all the bookmakers or pundits unanimously selected one team. To prove that nobody gave chelsea a chance was a lie, all I had to do was show you one bookmaker who refuted your claim. You also lied that Mourinho was disliked by the media and that no one had any expectations of his chelsea side. What a pathetic lie. See the attached and come up with better lies next time. I have more of this and I will keep posting them to prove that you are a waffling liar.

Nobody gave Chelsea a chance. Arsenal were the strong favorites. They just completed a season unbeaten. Many bookies even had them repeating the same shit again in 2004/5.

I never lied about the war going between Mourinho and the media. I would post a video at the bottom of the post of Mourinho shit-talking the British media. Why would I lie over something I know? My muscle memory is better than any google cache you can scrape out of your computer.

When Jose first arrived, there was love but it quickly turned sour cos the media thought he was arrogant. Few months later, Jose went on an insult spree calling Wenger a Viewer, criticizing Allardyce’s tactics and just generally beefing several managers.

Guardiola was the outright favorite in 2016/17, he won nothing. Here you are, lying through your teeth that Mourinho was expected to win in a season Arsenal were the favorites. Pep that was touted to win everything finished third and trophyless.

You are a pathological liar and this is the proof.

https://twitter.com/skysportsretro/status/1386393370977873925?s=21

SyIvalord:
Lol. Bros continue your agenda.

Fact over agenda. Na Longstaff for dey take freekick now if not for God.

BARAJ92:
FA cup final, Yet Ole reach semi finals of all competition last season and was still able to make top 4 but he has been rightfully condemned 4 bottling the semi finals but your MCM could not use those at his disposal to get pass Sevilla in the champions league or even go far in the Carling cup.

See yeye talk...Mourinho reached the UCL knockout phase yet we were still critical of him when we were knock out by Sevilla...Has Ole been able to make it past the group stage?

Mourinho won the Caraboa cup...Has Ole managed to reach a final?

Mourinho won us the UEL...Ole is 3 games away from winning it but that's still some way to go...

For every final Mourinho played whilst with us, it means he didn't bottle a semi final...I am not a Mourinho fan but I won't sit here to watch you try to twist facts that are sacred...

As much as I still support the decision to fire Mourinho, Ole has not topped his time here...

You self dey take that message seriously. . Of course he's won. But well he dey bottle am small.

Jodera:
Any coach that wins champions league, then follow it up with EPL can never be a bottler less than one year from winning ooo.

Else, all the coaches in the world na bottler be that na

odizeey:

Fact over agenda. Na Longstaff for dey take freekick now if not for God.

Na rumor be your own fact??

Mr high IQ man. Nobody? You must be at least 35 to have known that for sure. . If you are, my advice is it's about damn time you did something you are better at.

Illimitable:


Nobody gave Chelsea a chance. Arsenal were the strong favorites. They just completed a season unbeaten. Many bookies even had them repeating the same shit again in 2004/5.

I never lied about the war going between Mourinho and the media. I would post a video at the bottom of the post of Mourinho shit-talking the British media. Why would I lie over something I know? My muscle memory is better than any google cache you can scrape out of your computer.

When Jose first arrived, there was love but it quickly turned sour cos the media thought he was arrogant. Few months later, Jose went on an insult spree calling Wenger a Viewer, criticizing Allardyce’s tactics and just generally beefing several managers.

Guardiola was the outright favorite in 2016/17, he won nothing. Here you are, lying through your teeth that Mourinho was expected to win in a season Arsenal were the favorites. Pep that was touted to win everything finished third and trophyless.

You are a pathological liar and this is the proof.

https://twitter.com/skysportsretro/status/1386393370977873925?s=21

Leyqute:


Na rumor be your own fact??

No smoke without fire.

Jodera:
Lol... You dey vex oo.
See Attack

Me no attack anybody. Anybody wey feel attacked na probably the maiden wey the shoe fit.

benji93:
You self dey take that message seriously. . Of course he's won. But well he dey bottle am small.

...
Na 35cl bottling be that na

benji93:
Mr high IQ man. Nobody? You must be at least 35 to have known that for sure. . If you are, my advice is it's about damn time you did something you are better at.

Shut up your mouth.

No one called you here.

odizeey:

Fact over agenda. Na Longstaff for dey take freekick now if not for God.

But you no get any proof for this your agenda na. I show you say one of the most reliable sports journalist for Europe talk say Bruno na first choice but you say na PR stunt. Which kind PR stunt be that? Why them go do PR stunt ontop such thing?

If you con add all these facts to the fact say Bruno and Longstaff no dey similar in any way and them no even dey play the same position, then you go see say you and your agenda too funny

BARAJ92:
FA cup final, Yet Ole reach semi finals of all competition last season and was still able to make top 4 but he has been rightfully condemned 4 bottling the semi finals but your MCM could not use those at his disposal to get pass Sevilla in the champions league or even go far in the Carling cup.

This one is trying to be clever by half.

The only time Ole has played in the CL, he was bundled out of the group stage and got demoted to Europa.

Mourinho qualified from the group in every CL campaign at Man Utd.

That’s the difference.

Even if Ole wins Europa this season, it cannot top Mourinho’s achievements because it’s taken Ole close to 3 years to achieve what Mourinho did in 9 months.

You can’t lie your way around factual information.

You this man, person no fit play again?

patrickmuf:
When Laporte was unfit and Ake struggling for fitness, didn't Pep rush to the market? Do you know what it means to lose your first choice CBs, all 3 of them?

odizeey:

No smoke without fire.

So you see fire in front of you and you see smoke dey billow from miles away. Them ask you where fire truly dey and you say the true fire dey miles away because “no smoke without fire”
Odiz you need to push this your agenda harder.

SyIvalord:
Me no attack anybody. Anybody wey feel attacked na probably the maiden wey the shoe fit.

Lol... Abi??
Sha hope you ready to collect from Roma tonight?

melodyogonna:

Nope, I don't.

We have a team that's capable of winning, that doesn't mean we are the best Current winning team.