A protest happening within the same time all verified football accounts are boycotting social media, which means no form of communication as to when the match will start except the live blog. Laughable.

Nah when the match go come start now??

Is this Match gonna hold at all?

this match can't be played tonight... I suspect it would be postponed

wat a disgrace of a whole "richest" club...spitss

weedtaker:
yea, wanted him here after Jose was sacked, Ole is doing well, so no stress.

I see him having a future at athletico madrid Madrid..

He likes aggressive teams

KingAlabi:

Making sure Liverpool end up in the Europa league.

And you're so confident that we're going to beat them?

KingAlabi:

Have we conceded 4 goals away this season?

I have watched football too long to know nothing is impossible

Oasis007:


4 goals Difference? Our fringe Players should be able to hold out nau.

Until it happens and we're back to abusing Ole and the players here

eph12:

And you're so confident that we're going to beat them?

Not confident, but I want us to beat them.

eph12:

I have watched football too long to know nothing is impossible

Let's just hope Fred doesn't come out with his rainboats then.

eph12:

Until it happens and we're back to abusing Ole and the players here

Are we gonna be surprised? Nope. Pained? Yep.

The game have been postponed.

Just watched highlight of that game against City where we were 2 goals down but came back to win...

Big props to Sanchez and Pogba...

Sanchez for that performance alone earned my support just like Owen for that last minute winner...

raumdeuter:
Roland17 and afrodoc

Can you explain to me what the Glazers are doing wrong or not doing that is causing this riot

Look at it from an investor POV and if you were the owner what would you do differently

LOL. Why should fans who just want to win titles look at it from POV of owners who are interested only in making money.

The grievances are many but i don't want to get into another long debate with Pro-Glazer people here so i will summarize.

2004: Manchester United was debt free and able to compete in the market with just about anyone.

2005: Glazers bought the club on a high interest loan which they now passed on completely to the club to pay. Instantaneously turning a profitable club into a debt ridden one. Since then the club has had to pay over 1 billion pounds in loan repayments and interest payments. 1 billion pounds that might have been spent on things like players, coaching recruitment and facilities had the Glazers not bought the club.

There is a reason Ronaldo was replaced by one leg Owen and no brain Obertan. Ferguson's ingenuity was what was papering over the cracks and everything collapsed as soon as he retired. In the past few seasons every time we make Champions League instead of supporting the manager in the next window the Glazers cut back on spending since their own target has been achieved.

You can imagine a fan of the club living in Manchester who has seen how the Glazers bought the club and took 1 billion pounds out of the club without spending any part of their own money, then who now sees Man City bought by owners who invested 1 billion of their own money into the club buying players, employing coaches, upgrading the academy and the facilities.

raumdeuter:
Roland17 and afrodoc

Can you explain to me what the Glazers are doing wrong or not doing that is causing this riot

Look at it from an investor POV and if you were the owner what would you do differently

The Glazers are running the club without the fans and this is quite similar to what is happening at Arsenal. They have absolutely abandoned and alienated the fans and failed to engage them in the process of making very critical decisions. The last fan participation dates 5 years ago, I stand corrected.

Have they exactly invested in the club and it’s facilities? They have not invested in the stadium as Old Trafford has not had any recent renovation. They are running the club like typical American business men. Like Arsenal, United is virtually running on a self sustained model. So that means, it is revenue from merchandise, tickets and other revenue sources that is keeping United and Arsenal afloat.

Worsestill, the debt profile of Manchester United has increased astronomically over the last 5 years and this is with the Glazers cashing out. The debt profile of United will be worse than the what the Glazers inherited which speaks volume of how the club is being run.

From an investor POV, I will be careful not to distort the identity and history of the club while trying to make money. The self sustaining model is a difficult one to sustain especially in the UK when the consider the economic system. This is not about buying FRIDGE and Aaron Nwa Bissaka”. The idea behind ESL was just the crowing of the thorn.

The Glazers ownership is different from City’s.

KingAlabi:

Not confident, but I want us to beat them.

OK

Roland17:


The Glazers are running the club without the fans and this is quite similar to what is happening at Arsenal. They have absolutely abandoned and alienated the fans and failed to engage them in the process of making very critical decisions. The last fan participation dates 5 years ago, I stand corrected.

Have they exactly invested in the club and it’s facilities? They have not invested in the stadium as Old Trafford has not had any recent renovation. They are running the club like typical American business men. Like Arsenal, United is virtually running on a self sustained model. So that means, it is revenue from merchandise, tickets and other revenue sources that is keeping United and Arsenal afloat.

Worsestill, the debt profile of Manchester United has increased astronomically over the last 5 years and this is with the Glazers cashing out. The debt profile of United will be worse than the what the Glazers inherited which speaks volume of how the club is being run.

From an investor POV, I will be careful not to distort the identity and history of the club while trying to make money. The self sustaining model is a difficult one to sustain especially in the UK when the consider the economic system. This is not about buying FRIDGE and Aaron Nwa Bissaka”. The idea behind ESL was just the crowing of the thorn.

The Glazers ownership is different from City’s.

Well said. And to just correct something. Man Utd had no debt before the Glazers. The debt started when "audio" billionaires decided to buy a big club without spending a dollar of their own money.

There was a day i watched a game in the top tier of the SAF stand. I had to use a suspicious looking staircase that looked quite rickety. In recent years the stadium has not had any real improvements apart from adding more seats (to increase match revenue)

afrodoc2:


LOL. Why should fans who just want to win titles look at it from POV of owners who are interested only in making money.

The grievances are many but i don't want to get into another long debate with Pro-Glazer people here so i will summarize.

2004: Manchester United was debt free and able to compete in the market with just about anyone.

2005: Glazers bought the club on a high interest loan which they now passed on completely to the club to pay. Instantaneously turning a profitable club into a debt ridden one. Since then the club has had to pay over 1 billion pounds in loan repayments and interest payments. 1 billion pounds that might have been spent on things like players, coaching recruitment and facilities had the Glazers not bought the club.

There is a reason Ronaldo was replaced by one leg Owen and no brain Obertan. Ferguson's ingenuity was what was papering over the cracks and everything collapsed as soon as he retired. In the past few seasons every time we make Champions League instead of supporting the manager in the next window the Glazers cut back on spending since their own target has been achieved.

You can imagine a fan of the club living in Manchester who has seen how the Glazers bought the club and took 1 billion pounds out of the club without spending any part of their own money, then who now sees Man City bought by owners who invested 1 billion of their own money into the club buying players, employing coaches, upgrading the academy and the facilities.

Wait, have they not spent the same 1 billion on the club as well? Why are the fans interested in how much they take out every year? No one should care, because they bought with some of their monies and still invested a lot in the club.

Meanwhile, not like they’ve taken out 1 billion, they have used most monies earned to repay acquisition loan. Not a big deal.

I am struggling to actually understand why the fans are against them, honestly.

afrodoc2:


Well said. And to just correct something. Man Utd had no debt before the Glazers. The debt started when "audio" billionaires decided to buy a big club without spending a dollar of their own money.

There was a day i watched a game in the top tier of the SAF stand. I had to use a suspicious looking staircase that looked quite rickety. In recent years the stadium has not had any real improvements apart from adding more seats (to increase match revenue)

I have been to OT very recently (and a couple of times), I didn’t see any issues. The stadium still looks great which means they do repairs and maintenance every time.

You can check the notes to the financial statement, they would normally disclose costs of repairs and maintenance on an annual basis.

You guys should stop this abeg.

nitrogen:


Wait, have they not spent the same 1 billion on the club as well? Why are the fans interested in how much they take out every year? No one should care, because they bought with some of their monies and still invested a lot in the club.

Meanwhile, not like they’ve taken out 1 billion, they have used most monies earned to repay acquisition loan. Not a big deal.

I am struggling to actually understand why the fans are against them, honestly.

We have had this debate/argument before so i can only say...................................................OK

nitrogen:


I have been to OT very recently (and a couple of times), I don’t see any issues. The stadium still looks great which means they do repairs and maintenance every time.

You can check the notes to the financial statement, they would normally disclose costs of repairs and maintenance on an annual basis.

You guys should stop this abeg.

ok

Glazers remind me one useless president like that.

You no dey run country/Club well you still no wan comot, just dey enjoy the commonwealth of the nation/club.

rubbish and ingredients

Oasis007:
Following discussion between the Police, The Premier League, Trafford Council and the clubs, our match against Liverpool has been postponed due to safety and security considerations around the protest today. Discussions will now take place with the Premier League on a revised date for the fixture.

Our fans are passionate about Manchester United, and we completely acknowledge the right to free expression and peaceful protest.

However, we regret the disruption to the team and actions which put other fans, staff, and the police in danger. We thank the police for their support and will assist them in any subsequent investigations.

They should just give Liverpool the 3 points and slam your team a big fine. Very soon fans of other teams will follow suit without thinking about opponents.

Roland17:


The Glazers are running the club without the fans and this is quite similar to what is happening at Arsenal. They have absolutely abandoned and alienated the fans and failed to engage them in the process of making very critical decisions. The last fan participation dates 5 years ago, I stand corrected.

Have they exactly invested in the club and it’s facilities? They have not invested in the stadium as Old Trafford has not had any recent renovation. They are running the club like typical American business men. Like Arsenal, United is virtually running on a self sustained model. So that means, it is revenue from merchandise, tickets and other revenue sources that is keeping United and Arsenal afloat.

Worsestill, the debt profile of Manchester United has increased astronomically over the last 5 years and this is with the Glazers cashing out. The debt profile of United will be worse than the what the Glazers inherited which speaks volume of how the club is being run.

From an investor POV, I will be careful not to distort the identity and history of the club while trying to make money. The self sustaining model is a difficult one to sustain especially in the UK when the consider the economic system. This is not about buying FRIDGE and Aaron Nwa Bissaka”. The idea behind ESL was just the crowing of the thorn.

The Glazers ownership is different from City’s.

Your assertions don’t make sense. A self sustaining business is actually the best. Forget the fact that some owners pump money into their businesses from their pockets, it means the clubs are distressed.

Debt dropped overtime to about 200m before COVID, so, debt did not increase over the last five years. It only increased last year because of COVID. Do you think that other clubs haven’t borrowed more money very recently to mitigate the effects of the pandemic?

The attack on these guys no make sense at all. I guess britons are not happy with them because they are Americans. Simple!

All of a sudden EPL fans want to be owned by oil rich owners...... Lmaoooo imagine forcing someone to sell his business for a cheap amount because "football is for the fans"

The billionaire utd fans should get their acts together and bid for the club at min of 4 billion. Let them buy and run it. Forget the narrative that they don’t want to sell, they want the right returns before they can sell, contrary to what is being said, they haven’t recovered their capital. Fact!

Offer them good returns, and they will sell. I can’t wait to see how another owner will run the club sef.

airmark:


They should just give Liverpool the 3 points and slam your team a big fine. Very soon fans of other teams will follow suit without thinking about opponents.

Fine..... yes. 3pts to Liverpool?! Common nau.

nitrogen:
The billionaire utd fans should get their acts together and bid for the club at min of 4 billion. Let them buy and run it. Forget the narrative that they don’t want to sell, they want the right returns before they can sell, contrary to what is being said, they haven’t recovered their capital. Fact!

Offer them good returns, and they will sell. I can’t wait to see how another owner will run the club.

What capital? Didn’t they buy the club with a loan?

codedguy1:
Glazers remind me one useless president like that.

You no dey run country/Club well you still no wan comot, just dey enjoy the commonwealth of the nation/club.

rubbish and ingredients

Talk the name of that President with your full chest

MaziAlaye:
All of a sudden EPL fans want to be owned by oil rich owners...... Lmaoooo imagine forcing someone to sell his business for a cheap amount because "football is for the fans"

Don’t mind them. Football is for the fans koor. Pay good money and ownership will be transferred swiftly.