Leyqute:


Look at you comparing apples and groundnuts. One is definitely bigger than the other.

What yeye luxury does Man Utd have?

City has more CBs than United has defenders- that is without addition fullbacks like Zinchenko, Cancelo and the rest.

Pep hasn’t won the league and UCL this season and the players who brought his success - 3 league titles, other cups- are players he met at City. Go figure.

City has Stones Laporte, Diaz and Ake as CBs who are Man Utds CBs?

Illimitable:


This is another distortion of facts. Men are out here pretending not to know the difference between quality and quantity.

Nearly every City defender Pep has bought broke British transfer record for a defender.

This is what Ramdeuter is comparing to signing Dalot, Bailly, Lindelof and Telles.

I have met some very thick people on this forum but this here takes the cake.

Maguire is the most expensive defender in the world
Pogba is the most expensive midfielder in the league
Lukaku was the most expensive striker in the league

That Pep spent his own money wisely and Man Utd spent foolishly doesnt excuse your team

raumdeuter:


Maguire is the most expensive defender in the world
Pogba is the most expensive midfielder in the league
Lukaku was the most expensive striker in the league

That Pep spent his own money wisely and Man Utd spent foolishly doesnt excuse your team

I knew you would come with this stupid explanation to justify Pep’s spendings as if one defender is what is needed in a defence unit.

All the defenders(not one) that Pep signed, were British or world records. Pep was practically breaking his own record in each transfer he made.

I haven’t mentioned Cancelo whose deal was almost £70m cos Danilo went the other way to Juventus or John Stones at £50m. Pep has spent more than £300m on defenders alone which is more than Man Utd spent on Pogba, Lukaku and Maguire.

In other words, Pep has a record breaking goalkeeper and nearly every defender at his disposal were record breakers in the defence - but your equivalent to that disgusting spending is to mention 3 players who play in 3 different departments of the team.

Come on now, does this make sense to you?

eph12:

So Glazer's sin is that he didn't bring in the right coach, and not that he didn't spend on players?

It’s both.

If City didn’t buy enough players for Pep, I doubt he’d have brought them this much success.

If Liverpool didn’t sign a capable defender for Klopp they’d never have won the league and UCL.

At some point a team that’s doing well will need a glaring update in certain positions. If that need is not met, success will elude that club.

Festus Onigbinde would have won 3 league titles in a row with this quality of players.

How can any manager fail with this level of backing?

raumdeuter:


City has Stones Laporte, Diaz and Ake as CBs who are Man Utds CBs?

Eric Garcia nko? That’s 5 already. Should we calculate their worth vs United’s Maguire, Lindelof et al?

Apples and groundnuts.

When we talk about quality of defenders, City beats United. When we talk about quantity of defenders, City trounces United.

Should we go ahead and compare wingers and strikers?

raumdeuter:


Maguire is the most expensive defender in the world
Pogba is the most expensive midfielder in the league
Lukaku was the most expensive striker in the league

That Pep spent his own money wisely and Man Utd spent foolishly doesnt excuse your team

Are you serious?

Man Utd spent money senselessly

Leyqute:


It’s both.

If City didn’t buy enough players for Pep, I doubt he’d have brought them this much success.

If Liverpool didn’t sign a capable defender for Klopp they’d never have won the league and UCL.

At some point a team that’s doing well will need a glaring update in certain positions. If that need is not met, success will elude that club.

Eph12

City scored the most league goals last season but they conceded more than some other top teams. The logical thing to do was upgrade on defense.

They did that and look at what we have ? It’s not rocket science.

With the way United have been conceding silly goals, is it not obvious that a good CB pairing plus stable DM who will cover the defense is needed? There’s still a RW problem - there has been for years, but it’s not as important as the CB and DM problem because goals are not very hard to find , although one or two additions in that department won’t be a bad thing.

As I said, it’s not rocket science.

Leyqute:


Are you serious?

Man Utd spent money senselessly

When people run out of points, they start talking shit.

Man Utd spent senselessly or Woodward was saving money for his slave masters.

With an opportunity to close the gap on 19 points, Woodward signed Fred, Dalot & Lee Grant. One would think these 3 players were in top 10 Ballon d’Or list.

When Pep finished 15 points behind Conte’s Chelsea, he was given £200m to spend on his defence alone. The defence that already had Kompany, Otamendi, Mangala, Delph, Bravo, Zabaleta, etc.

I think Kompany or Stones got injured before the New Year and Pep quickly responded by signing Laporte in January - another record signing for a defender. It’s impossible for any manager to fail at Man City.

A match every 2 days this May. Nawa.

Ole should try use Telles and VDB tomorrow. No way our team B go bottle 4 goals na.

eph12:
In a bid to cry about the 80m, we want to cancel all the attributes Maguire has. Something that's very glaring. That he's not worth 80m shouldn't take away all the attributes he has and what he brings to the team.

Apart from his constant fitness wetin again Maguire dey bring to the team?

Lana1:
A match every 2 days this May. Nawa.

Ole should try use Telles and VDB tomorrow. No way our team B go bottle 4 goals na.

4 games in 8 days.

Rotation is very necessary.

ouzo1:



Apart from his constant fitness wetin again Maguire dey bring to the team?

Maybe Maguire should get injured and then we'll understand.

Leyqute:


It’s both.

If City didn’t buy enough players for Pep, I doubt he’d have brought them this much success.

If Liverpool didn’t sign a capable defender for Klopp they’d never have won the league and UCL.

At some point a team that’s doing well will need a glaring update in certain positions. If that need is not met, success will elude that club.

The ones they released millions of pounds to buy, you're complaining everyday. They're never good enough and a waste of money. How will any new signing be different?

We have spent much more than many clubs that have had much more success than us in the last couple of years. Spending has never been the problem

afrodoc:


This is not true. You don’t know there are websites that keep a tab on these things. Grealish has played only one match on the right wing in his career and that was about 3 years ago in the Championship.

It would be madness to spend big money on a player only to attempt to shoehorn him into a role he has never really played before. It would be doubly crazy when there are other options of similar quality ( and most likely way better on the right) who have actually played that role.

Well, when it comes to Grealish I think using the term 'shoehorn' is kinda out of place. I mean, he's a versatile player.

Now, talking about websites that keep tabs on stats and all. I don't think I need any statkeeper to tell me about something I watch on TV

Once again. I want to reiterate that I have seen Grealish operate from the right side of the pitch.

And furthermore, I'd like to point you to the fact that Grealish alternates between left and right side of the pitch... he's not as static as you think and that's why it's so difficult to mark him. He no dey stay one place



And for the bold, I watched Grealish cause havoc from the right side of the pitch with my eyes last season.

Leyqute:


Eph12

City scored the most league goals last season but they conceded more than some other top teams. The logical thing to do was upgrade on defense.

They did that and look at what we have ? It’s not rocket science.

With the way United have been conceding silly goals, is it not obvious that a good CB pairing plus stable DM who will cover the defense is needed? There’s still a RW problem - there has been for years, but it’s not as important as the CB and DM problem because goals are not very hard to find , although one or two additions in that department won’t be a bad thing.

As I said, it’s not rocket science.

I'm sure you also have noticed that Pep has worked on his tactics to improve the defensive side. He's much more cautious today than yesterday. Imagine Pep playing 2 DM against us. He would never have done that before. Sometimes it's much more than just buying players.

As at last season, there was still confusion about a lot of things about this team. There's no confusion about Peps team. Buying players become easier when there's a very obvious direction and style. We're still trying to get that sorted. If we don't, we will buy players we can't use and blame Glazer's for it. Case in study, buying a midfield controller, patient player to play fast attacking football. And you wonder why he's not playing

ouzo1:



Apart from his constant fitness wetin again Maguire dey bring to the team?

Na only the fitness o. Na why the team dey relegation. The guy no dey do anything

Illimitable:


I knew you would come with this stupid explanation to justify Pep’s spendings as if one defender is what is needed in a defence unit.

All the defenders(not one) that Pep signed, were British or world records. Pep was practically breaking his own record in each transfer he made.

I haven’t mentioned Cancelo whose deal was almost £70m cos Danilo went the other way to Juventus or John Stones at £50m. Pep has spent more than £300m on defenders alone which is more than Man Utd spent on Pogba, Lukaku and Maguire.

In other words, Pep has a record breaking goalkeeper and nearly every defender at his disposal were record breakers in the defence - but your equivalent to that disgusting spending is to mention 3 players who play in 3 different departments of the team.

Come on now, does this make sense to you?

What record Diaz? or Ake

handelex:
Maybe Maguire should get injured and then we'll understand.

Honestly

LostMyZeal:



Well, when it comes to Grealish I think using the term 'shoehorn' is kinda out of place. I mean, he's a versatile player.

Now, talking about websites that keep tabs on stats and all. I don't think I need any statkeeper to tell me about something I watch on TV

Once again. I want to reiterate that I have seen Grealish operate from the right side of the pitch.

And furthermore, I'd like to point you to the fact that Grealish alternates between left and right side of the pitch... he's not as static as you think and that's why it's so difficult to mark him. He no dey stay one place



And for the bold, I watched Grealish cause havoc from the right side of the pitch with my eyes last season.

Finding yourself on the right side of the field on a few occasions is not the same as going against the left back on a daily basis. For the example I have seen Rashford cause real damage to the opponents from the right wing but we all know that he struggles when played extensively there.

Can you name one premier league game that Grealish played as a RW or RM? He is a talented player and if we are losing Pogba I wouldn’t mind him coming to play as an AM/LWF however, if we buy him as a RWF we will back after a year complaining that we don’t have quality RWFs.

Leyqute:


Eric Garcia nko? That’s 5 already. Should we calculate their worth vs United’s Maguire, Lindelof et al?

Apples and groundnuts.

When we talk about quality of defenders, City beats United. When we talk about quantity of defenders, City trounces United.

Should we go ahead and compare wingers and strikers?

For Eric Garcia, Man Utd has Bailly Lindelof Maguire Tuanzebe and Phil Jones making 5 CBs

How does City beat Man Utd in quantity? Quality is what you make of the players At what point will you pick Stones over the ones you have.

eph12:

Na only the fitness o. Na why the team dey relegation. The guy no dey do anything

hahahahahahaah Baba no vex na, na question I ask o

eph12:

The ones they released millions of pounds to buy, you're complaining everyday. They're never good enough and a waste of money. How will any new signing be different?

We have spent much more than many clubs that have had much more success than us in the last couple of years. Spending has never been the problem

It’s as if you read to respond and not understand the point being made.

I should reply you with a k. But as a man of God, I won’t. It’s not about spending money anyhow. You have to spend the right amount at the right time and then you need to have a good scouting system.

1. City had been investing right before SAF left. United didn’t strengthen their squad then. By the time United realized they should, they already had other problems.

2. City appointed managers with similar football philosophy. Not a carbon copy of each other, but they’re similar. After LvG left, a similar minded well-respected hungry-for-success coach like Klopp should’ve been hired, not a dinosaur like Mourinho.

3. This is the most important. City were spending money on talents but not overspending on them. They broke records, yes, but by how much? They were smart about that bit. United on the other hand just kept throwing money at problems hoping they’ll magically disappear.

4. City spend when they need to spend. Good attack, not good enough defense? Take Diaz and Garcia. Bad goalkeeper? Take Bravo. E no do you? Take Ederson. Fernandinho getting older? Gundogan not enough? Take Rodri.


How long has United had the midfield problem? Has it been solved? How many players has been bought to solve it? Who are they?

5. Last transfer window should’ve been used to build a more robust squad. How many of the new players played
up to 17 league games?

When Ole’s contract expires hope they won’t go and bring in Nuno Esperanto of Wolves to lead us to the promised land.

handelex:
Maybe Maguire should get injured and then we'll understand.

I can assure u that he won't be missed.

Illimitable:


When people run out of points, they start talking shit.

Man Utd spent senselessly or Woodward was saving money for his slave masters.

With an opportunity to close the gap on 19 points, Woodward signed Fred, Dalot & Lee Grant. One would think these 3 players were in top 10 Ballon d’Or list.

When Pep finished 15 points behind Conte’s Chelsea, he was given £200m to spend on his defence alone. The defence that already had Kompany, Otamendi, Mangala, Delph, Bravo, Zabaleta, etc.

I think Kompany or Stones got injured before the New Year and Pep quickly responded by signing Laporte in January - another record signing for a defender. It’s impossible for any manager to fail at Man City.

So the bold are the defenders Pep should be using? Where are they now? We see as Madrid and Barcelona are rushing all of them including Delph a midfielder, Zabaleta who couldnt even make it in West Ham and Kompany who retired

eph12:

I'm sure you also have noticed that Pep has worked on his tactics to improve the defensive side. He's much more cautious today than yesterday. Imagine Pep playing 2 DM against us. He would never have done that before. Sometimes it's much more than just buying players.

As at last season, there was still confusion about a lot of things about this team. There's no confusion about Peps team. Buying players become easier when there's a very obvious direction and style. We're still trying to get that sorted. If we don't, we will buy players we can't use and blame Glazer's for it. Case in study, buying a midfield controller, patient player to play fast attacking football. And you wonder why he's not playing

If Pep worked on his defensive side and fields Otamendi and Stones won’t he chop goals?

popizaino:


Precisely,if we go back to unearth some post,we will see that man united fans were the ones who actually clamour for every players the clubs signed in this past years but they want to turn around and blame everyone except themselves because they are not doing well enough .

Lol... I know I've man u fans around me plus my sister is a die hard fan. Also, I was also a guest reading here then. I knew how here went frenzy during the 2014/15 season. But then, time makes people forgetful and they tend to forget how excited they were with those signings. I'm sure most people have forgotten Schneiderlin played for man u sef, till it was brought up, not to talk of remembering how good he was

Leyqute:

Are you serious?
Man Utd spent money senselessly

Your total spend in the last 7 seasons is only like 150M less than City yet you are complaining about every department from Defence to midfield to attack

eph12:

The ones they released millions of pounds to buy, you're complaining everyday. They're never good enough and a waste of money. How will any new signing be different?

We have spent much more than many clubs that have had much more success than us in the last couple of years. Spending has never been the problem

You be confirm guy.

raumdeuter:


For Eric Garcia, Man Utd has Bailly Lindelof Maguire Tuanzebe and Phil Jones making 5 CBs

How does City beat Man Utd in quantity? Quality is what you make of the players At what point will you pick Stones over the ones you have.

Phil Jones??!

Will City exchange Phil Jones for John Stones? Oya you sef bring Sule and collect Jones.

Abegi

Oasis007:


Elanga doesn't wanna miss out on first Team Opportunity next Season. Lad is fired up, very confident and proving he's above under U23 right now.

No lies...

Leyqute:


It’s as if you read to respond and not understand the point being made.

I should reply you with a k. But as a man of God, I won’t. It’s not about spending money anyhow. You have to spend the right amount at the right time and then you need to have a good scouting system.

1. City had been investing right before SAF left. United didn’t strengthen their squad then. By the time United realized they should, they already had other problems.

2. City appointed managers with similar football philosophy. Not a carbon copy of each other, but they’re similar. After LvG left, a similar minded well-respected hungry-for-success coach like Klopp should’ve been hired, not a dinosaur like Mourinho.

3. This is the most important. City were spending money on talents but not overspending on them. They broke records, yes, but by how much? They were smart about that bit. United on the other hand just kept throwing money at problems hoping they’ll magically disappear.

4. City spend when they need to spend. Good attack, not good enough defense? Take Diaz and Garcia. Bad goalkeeper? Take Bravo. E no do you? Take Ederson. Fernandinho getting older? Gundogan not enough? Take Rodri.


How long has United had the midfield problem? Has it been solved? How many players has been bought to solve it? Who are they?

5. Last transfer window should’ve been used to build a more robust squad. How many of the new players played
up to 17 league games?

When Ole’s contract expires hope they won’t go and bring in Nuno Esperanto of Wolves to lead us to the promised land.

I'm not sure you are trying to understand my position at all.
1. Have united wasted money on transfers? Yes, a lot
2. Are we spending on players? Yes

Do we agree on this?