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Taking her brother for prayers doesn't stop him from receiving medical care. Your ignorance needs cure, prayer is not mutually exclusive to medicine. The so called medical people are 99% religious people too.

The so called medical people don't use prayers to do their work you funny guy. Which makes your prayers and their beliefs a total joke and a total waste of time.
So many clowns here have recommended so many churches in this comment section. How many of those churches will she take her brother to before realizing that she's wasting her time taking her brother here and there instead of leaving him where he would get 'real' help? Sadly, you don't think ahead, so I'm not surprised.

Mrskillz1:
I am from a family of three. I have two brothers. One older and the other younger than me so I'm the only girl in my family.

I grew up seeing my Mom mad.
By my teen age, I got admission into Nnamdi Azikiwe University alongside my elder brother who was to study Engineering. By the time I was in my finals, my brother was getting ready for IT. One day, his roommate sent for me, he said they couldn't sleep the night before because my brother was talking to himself. Before we knew what was happening, my brother was getting violent and so we took him home and he never got back to finish school.
I proceeded with my education and finished. Went for NYSC. While serving the nation, My Mom died. When I got home, she'd been buried.
But my brother was still mad.

I later got job, took my brother to a Psychiatric hospital and the doctor after examining him said he is Schizophrenic. He was asked to stay in the hospital.
I paid. He then stayed there for one month. When I came to visit him, he pleaded with me to take him home that he didn't like it there.

So I took him home. Every month, I buy drugs for him and he gets injected. He usually puts up a fight but with the help of my younger brother, neighbors and a certain nurse, he receives the injection, forcefully and against his will.
Often times, he pleads with me not to inject him, the very time I obliged him, he scattered things, didn't allow the neighborhood sleep, talked throughout some nights and wouldn't eat sometimes. He looked really sick then but with the injection, one will hardly know he's not normal.
I told him that I won't let him miss his injection ever again.

Now, on Monday, my younger brother woke up and was unusually quiet. He normally wakes up and begins to play music with his phone or he will turn to football channel and watch until I leave for work. But I didn't go to work on Monday and I noticed he was quiet, then I asked him why he's quiet. He didn't respond. After some hours, I asked my Dad if he feels he's okay, My Dad said that he wants to be quiet and that I should let him be.

Then, that night, around 4am, my brother began to talk. He was shouting and some of the things he said were not coherent. He talked out of point. I and my Dad, with my elder brother surrounded him and I couldn't help crying when my Dad was cautioning him to keep quiet and he refused.
Neighbours thought it was my elder brother's voice they'd heard that night but by the time they heard in the morning that it was my younger brother, they visited my Dad in the evening. By then, my brother was still talking and even burnt his clothes yesterday.
My Dad got a few guys to chain him because he was violent yesterday when I left the house.
I know the problem is spiritual. I have prayed, fasted for my elder brother and now this!
I'm so unhappy.

Can someone suggest a place I can take my two brothers to so they can be cured, please.

Sorry about your troubles.
This is a Spiritual problem and must be fought with everything you have got.

Since the medication help to calm your elder brother, I will suggest you go the way of prayer and medication. Medication to calm them down and prayers to uproot the problem.

You need to pray together as a family, set days for fasting, pray with the word of God seeking his mercies and give alms to the poor.

As a family you all can also attend Revival programs and crusades in Church. It may be a long battle but with consistency and trust in God you will surely win.

The Lord is your strength.

Malawian:

Which brings us to a very salient question. Do you believe Igbos are of a Hebrew stock or not? Generational curses may be valid for Igbo and not valid for Yoruba. But arguing that such things don't exist is the crux of the matter here.

There is nothing "salient" about that question at all.

You don't believe the Word of God, do you? If you are not even convinced by God's own lecture in Ezekiel 18, regarding His doing away of Generational curses, which never applied to gentiles forever, then why bother believing in Him at all?

I wonder why you, and so many out there, waste your lives pretending you believe in God. Aren't you better off condemned to die at the end of your term here on earth than spending eternity in Hell for refusing to obey His commandments?

joegigs:

They were initially on medication when my dad was alive. To even take the med na war.. We just working assiduously to make money and take them to better psychiatrics. But they ain't violent anymore and can communicate

Thank God!

Neurpsychiatry is what helped me a whole lot when I "lost my mind" and I am grateful to God for leading me in that direction when He did. Your brothers are humans beings and deserve even the best of life. I will be rooting for them too in my prayers and call to God.

kingxsamz:

The so called medical people don't use prayers to do their work you funny guy. Which makes your prayers and their beliefs a total joke and a total waste of time.
So many clowns here have recommended so many churches in this comment section. How many of those churches will she take her brother to before realizing that she's wasting her time taking her brother here and there instead of leaving him where he would get 'real' help? Sadly, you don't think ahead, so I'm not surprised.

If she asks for doctors or hospitals, she will have different doctors and hospitals recommended. This should not be rocket science, but it seems like it is for you. She can find her answers in the first location. She's already spent time, years and live(s) in the hospital. No harm trying a dual cure strategy. If this is too great for you to process, call a friend.

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If she asks for doctors or hospitals, she will have different doctors and hospitals recommended. This should not be rocket science, but it seems like it is for you. She can find her answers in the first location. She's already spent time, years and live(s) in the hospital. No harm trying a dual cure strategy. If this is too great for you to process, call a friend.

Except churches are not Hospitals or mental institutions, how hard is that information for your brain to grasp?

incogni2o:
Sorry about your Brother's situation.

It's apaulliing, you put your trust entirely on Medicines and Injections, why not pray and fast on specific days concerning the matter, call your family together, even if it is 1 hour.

I understand Medicines are important but can't over emphasize you praying for him or giving him the Medicines. Im am a Medical related person .

We have to stop letting the Devil cheat us by putting Science first.

If truly you're in the medical field then you're a disgrace to the profession.
If you want to be a pastor, be a pastor, if you want to be in the medical field dump that senseless statement you made about not putting science first.
No wonder we have so many unqualified, unfit people in the medical field in Nigeria smh.
When your patient is dying and loosing blood, you should probably pray first and conduct fasting, because you dont want to put science first. Such immature statement. I doubt you're in the medical field.

kingxsamz:


Except churches are not Hospitals or mental institutions, how hard is that information for your brain to grasp?

Is it so hard for you to process that asking for doctors, or hospitals or churches on NL frontpage will produce the same results? i.e different/many doctors, hospitals and churches. Devourer is really real, lol.

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Is it so hard for you to process that asking for doctors, or hospitals or churches on NL frontpage will produce the same results? i.e different/many doctors, hospitals and churches. Devourer is really real, lol.

You're really slow at comprehending things.
Let me type it in pidgin since you can't understand points being made in English quickly.

Church no be hospital. Church no be mental treatment institution, church no be where dem dey prescribe drugs, church no dey cure madness or cure sickness.
If she carry her brother go different churches, she dey waste her time because her brother no fit find help for there.
So if she like make she go hundred churches, her brother situation go only worse because Church no be hospital.
Would you rather be given 5 different churches to visit or 5 different hospitals if you had an asthma attack? what is too hard there to understand that your brain is acting slow this night?

kingxsamz:


If truly you're in the medical field then you're a disgrace to the profession.
If you want to be a pastor, be a pastor, if you want to be in the medical field dump that senseless statement you made about not putting science first.
No wonder we have so many unqualified, unfit people in the medical field in Nigeria smh.
When your patient is dying and loosing blood, you should probably pray first and conduct fasting, because you dont want to put science first. Such immature statement. I doubt you're in the medical field.

Medicine is not mutually exclusive to faith, how thick can you attempt to be? Ever heard of brain drain? Do you suppose those great guys moving abroad in droves are atheists leaving behind the religious? i hope you are not that deceived. A doctor or any professional can pray while carrying out his work/task. Get real and mature.

kingxsamz:


You're really slow at comprehending things.
Let me type it in pidgin since you can't understand points being made in English quickly.

Church no be hospital. Church no be mental treatment institution, church no be where dem dey prescribe drugs, church no dey cure madness or cure sickness.
If she carry her brother go different churches, she dey waste her time because her brother no fit find help for there.
So if she like make she go hundred churches, her brother situation go only worse because Church no be hospital.
Would you rather be given 5 different churches to visit or 5 different hospitals if you had an asthma attack? what is too hard there to understand that your brain is acting slow this night?

i see you have little or no retention. You don't have to go to many churches for solution to come. You don't have to live in a church too. You can visit a church service, program or meeting. It doesn't stop you from medical treatment that she has done for years with little or nothing to show for it.

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Medicine is not mutually exclusive to faith, how thick can you attempt to be? Ever heard of brain drain? Do you suppose those great guys moving abroad in droves are atheists leaving behind the religious? i hope you are not that deceived. A doctor or any professional can pray while carrying out his work/task. Get real and mature.

Eyah...why don't those doctors exercise their faith then?
Can't you see that they really don't have faith in their beliefs? Why do they use scientific methods instead of prayers to treat people?
That's because they know it won't work.
And your next excuse would be, "God gave them the knowledge to heal people with science". Abeg comot for here.

kingxsamz:


Eyah...why don't those doctors exercise their faith then?
Can't you see that they really don't have faith in their beliefs? Why do they use scientific methods instead of prayers to treat people?
That's because they know it won't work.
And your next excuse would be, "God gave them the knowledge to heal people with science". Abeg comot for here.

The Bible is in tune with use of medicine. Repeat it until you understand it, "medicine is not mutually exclusive to faith". Say it 10times every morning in front of a mirror, it should cure you.

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i see you have little or no retention. You don't have to go to many churches for solution to come. You don't have to live in a church too. You can visit a church service, program or meeting. It doesn't stop you from medical treatment that she has done for years with little or nothing to show for it.

How fa the issue of insecurity, peoverty, bad leadership and terrorism we've been suffering in Nigeria for years? Shey churches no fit stop that one?
Even 2000 pastors gathered recently to pray in Nigeria against these problems I mentioned, yet the country is getting worse.
So which reasonable human being with his brain intact would even suggest a church/churches as the solution to one's problem, when the ones we have in every street hasn't done anything to curb the menace in our society?
Abeg shift. You're clueless.

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The Bible is in tune with use of medicine. Repeat it until you understand it, "medicine is not mutually exclusive to faith". Say it 10times every morning in front of a mirror, it should cure you.

No, all you have to do is pray, and all your problems will go away.
That's the bible. That's why churches are being recommended to that lady and not hospitals. Now wear your clown hat and make up and say it in front of your mirror 50 times till it sinks.

kingxsamz:



No, all you have to do is pray, and all your problems will go away.
That's the bible. That's why churches are being recommended to that lady and not hospitals. Now wear your clown hat and make up and say it in front of your mirror 50 times till it sinks.

Get your mum to give you her Bible and stop fooling around.

kingxsamz:


How fa the issue of insecurity, peoverty, bad leadership and terrorism we've been suffering in Nigeria for years? Shey churches no fit stop that one?
Even 2000 pastors gathered recently to pray in Nigeria against these problems I mentioned, yet the country is getting worse.
So which reasonable human being with his brain intact would even suggest a church/churches as the solution to one's problem, when the ones we have in every street hasn't done anything to curb the menace in our society?
Abeg shift. You're clueless.

You that is mr. clue, we can see your life is no better. Get sense please.

kingxsamz:


If truly you're in the medical field then you're a disgrace to the profession.
If you want to be a pastor, be a pastor, if you want to be in the medical field dump that senseless statement you made about not putting science first.
No wonder we have so many unqualified, unfit people in the medical field in Nigeria smh.
When your patient is dying and loosing blood, you should probably pray first and conduct fasting, because you dont want to put science first. Such immature statement. I doubt you're in the medical field.

One day, your foolishness will fade away and you will start know wisdom.

I'll repeat what I said.

We have to stop letting the devil cheat us by putting science first

If you need explanation, ask.

Funny thing is you aren't in the medical profession and you are talking as if you've seen it all.

Its likely you are one of the conceited young ones who think you've seen it all.

incogni2o:



I'll repeat what I said.

We have to stop letting the devil cheat us by putting science first

Eyah...Mr 'seen it all', like I said you're probably not in the medical Field. Maybe you work as a cleaner there and that's okay. But if you are ,you should consider opening a church and leaving the medical field as your kind doesn't fit in there. If great minds didn't put science first, you wouldn't have that smartphone in your hand that you used to type that childish statement up there. for you to even say "I am a medical related person", already shows you're not in the medical Field. so it's fine. You can keep crying on my mentions, you're on your own.

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You that is mr. clue, we can see your life is no better. Get sense please.

Baba don run out of points ,e remain to attack me personally. Now run along and wear your clown costume as usual.

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Get your mum to give you her Bible and stop fooling around.

Are you going to cry now?

kingxsamz:


Are you going to cry now?

Would it not be better to join your family to cry for you now, so that you don't cry for eternity? Apply some reasoning Samuel, you can.

kingxsamz:


Baba don run out of points ,e remain to attack me personally. Now run along and wear your clown costume as usual.

There was only one point and it has been painstakingly passed. We pray that you have not forgotten already, dunno the extent of damage the devourer has done to your brain. Ohhh, are you thinking what i am thinking? Are you the ...? Never mind.

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Would it not be better to join your family to cry for you now, so that you don't cry for eternity? Apply some reasoning Samuel, you can.

Made this nigga clueless, now he's ranting and crying all over the place. I feel your pain bro.

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There was only one point and it has been painstakingly passed. We pray that you have not forgotten already, dunno the extent of damage the devourer has done to your brain. Ohhh, are you thinking what i am thinking? Are you the ...? Never mind.

I'm just sad that you won't be able to sleep well tonight. You'd probably stay awake thinking how much of a clown I made you look tonight. Chai.

Ma'am with God there are no impossibilities. Call my prophet Ayodele Omoniyi on this number 08068328078. I have witnessed people with various mental, spiritual psychological challenges that God delivered with ease. You will come back here to share testimonies. Feel free to ask if you want to locate him, he is very prominent and popular in the South West.

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There was only one point and it has been painstakingly passed. We pray that you have not forgotten already, dunno the extent of damage the devourer has done to your brain. Ohhh, are you thinking what i am thinking? Are you the ...? Never mind.

Please answer this question. Since Nigeria has one one the highest number of believers in the world, as evidenced in the largest number of pastors, evangelists, prophets and prophetesses and churches in every street, how come we have the poorest development indices in the world? Like poorest health indices, poorest corruption indices, poorest economic indices, etc. Should we not be better than non religious countries like China, Norway and Japan?

Prayer has been shown to be useless in solving personal and national challenges. It seems the more we pray, the worse the problem becomes. We have been praying for prosperity since the early 80, Nigeria and Nigerians has been progressively getting poorer since. We have been praying for good health and healing since and our health situation nationally has taken an alarming downturn.

Since prayer has not been working, does it not make sense to start applying scientific and practical solutions to our personal and national problems instead of wasting most of our time in churches, mosques, fellowships and prayer sessions.

Only a mad man does the same thing over and over again without success and then expect a successful result.

kingxsamz:


I'm just sad that you won't be able to sleep well tonight. You'd probably stay awake thinking how much of a clown I made you look tonight. Chai.

These are signs of schizophrenia from you in my humble opinion. Be careful and be guided, i overslept BTW.

wirinet:


Please answer this question. Since Nigeria has one one the highest number of believers in the world, as evidenced in the largest number of pastors, evangelists, prophets and prophetesses and churches in every street, how come we have the poorest development indices in the world? Like poorest health indices, poorest corruption indices, poorest economic indices, etc. Should we not be better than non religious countries like China, Norway and Japan?

Highest number of believers? i guess you have the book of life in your whatsapp group. We definitely have a lot of religious people in Africa, professing christians, muslims and other religions. And Nigeria having the largest population in Africa takes the chunk as well. But religion is not righteousness, and neither are the religions the same. i want to believe that you are aware of that. Be that as it may, the question is how many of the righteous are in authority, and how many of their righteous policies and practices are in play? Righteousness exalts a nation, not religion. If China, Norway and Japan are more righteous, upright, up and doing, straightforward and clean in their ways, of course they will move ahead of people who just pay lip service to God. God is not mocked by religion.

Prayer has been shown to be useless in solving personal and national challenges. It seems the more we pray, the worse the problem becomes. We have been praying for prosperity since the early 80, Nigeria and Nigerians has been progressively getting poorer since. We have been praying for good health and healing since and our health situation nationally has taken an alarming downturn.

Since prayer has not been working, does it not make sense to start applying scientific and practical solutions to our personal and national problems instead of wasting most of our time in churches, mosques, fellowships and prayer sessions.

Only a mad man does the same thing over and over again without success and then expect a successful result.

Wirinet, this is a very simple and particular case from the OP. Evidently, the OP has employed scientific and "practical" solutions to no avail. Like you say, only a mad man does the same thing over and over again without success and then expect a successful result. It is only wisdom for her to try a different route. The route of adding the spiritual. Like i have insisted, she does not need to neglect the scientific, God did not say that.

Greenlandncom:


Sorry about your troubles.
This is a Spiritual problem and must be fought with everything you have got.

Since the medication help to calm your elder brother, I will suggest you go the way of prayer and medication. Medication to calm them down and prayers to uproot the problem.

You need to pray together as a family, set days for fasting, pray with the word of God seeking his mercies and give alms to the poor.

As a family you all can also attend Revival programs and crusades in Church. It may be a long battle but with consistency and trust in God you will surely win.

The Lord is your strength.

Bro
Very good advice from you

akanbiaa:
Islam is the answer. Revert back to Islam and worship only 1 Creator alone, that begets not and neither is begotten.

So all the problem islam has Caused in the world, is it not enough?

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Highest number of believers? i guess you have the book of life in your whatsapp group. We definitely have a lot of religious people in Africa, professing christians, muslims and other religions. And Nigeria having the largest population in Africa takes the chunk as well. But religion is not righteousness, and neither are the religions the same. i want to believe that you are aware of that. Be that as it may, the question is how many of the righteous are in authority, and how many of their righteous policies and practices are in play? Righteousness exalts a nation, not religion. If China, Norway and Japan are more righteous, upright, up and doing, straightforward and clean in their ways, of course they will move ahead of people who just pay lip service to God. God is not mocked by religion.

How do we separate the religious from the righteous? Every Christian and Muslim claims to be righteous. So we can only judge by what they profess as we do not have a righteousness meter.

Almost every leader in Nigeria is either a Christian or a Muslim. Should they not the role model for the religion they profess? We have had reverend fathers as governors. We have had pastors and evangelists as ministers and many senior officials who claim to be born again or righteous Christians. Were they all different of from the standard wicked and corrupt Nigerian? What of the thousands of G.Os, pastors, reverends, etc., are their conducts any different from other corrupt Nigerians. What is the use of a religion if it cannot reform the people or the society as a whole?

If If China, Norway and Japan are more righteous without religion - prayers, deliverance and fasting, then why do we need prayers, deliverance and fasting to make progress both individually and as a country?

Wirinet, this is a very simple and particular case from the OP. Evidently, the OP has employed scientific and "practical" solutions to no avail. Like you say, only a mad man does the same thing over and over again without success and then expect a successful result. It is only wisdom for her to try a different route. The route of adding the spiritual. Like i have insisted, she does not need to neglect the scientific, God did not say that.

The OP never said that the medical approach did not work. What she said was that she wanted an instant and permanent solution. This is because her brother had to be forced to take the prescribed drugs and the drugs were to be taken probably for the rest of his life. There are many medical conditions that require prescription drugs for the rest of your life in order to live a full life

As an example, I also have my own story. My wife's senior brother also died as a result of following spiritual advice over medical. He had serious heart problems and underwent open heart surgery in Italy. He was put on prescription drugs for life. On getting back to Nigeria he went to see T.B. Joshua. He was told that he was healed spiritually and told to throw all the drugs away. About 3 months after that he died in his house alone and was dead 3 days before his body was discovered.