budaatum:


They don't care about Palestinians. As far as some are concerned Palestinians are not even human beings and deserve to be exterminated, which makes some of us want to burn our Bible at the hypocrisy of reading the same book.

obixcel:
I was watching the whole thing live on even CNN and they confirmed Palestinians initially shot hundreds of rockets into Southern Israel. I despise war, destruction and chaos, But to any rational mind what did u expect to happen? Action and reaction are both equal and opposite.

obixcel:
I was watching the whole thing live on even CNN and they confirmed Palestinians initially shot hundreds of rockets into Southern Israel. I despise war, destruction and chaos, But to any rational mind what did u expect to happen? Action and reaction are both equal and opposite. Civilians on both sides are not the ones prosecuting this war and launching rockets, it is the Military factions on either side that are on each other's throats. In the end, unfortunately, Civilians are always likely going to be among the casualties.. really sad.

obixcel:
I was watching the whole thing live on even CNN and they confirmed Palestinians initially shot hundreds of rockets into Southern Israel. I despise war, destruction and chaos, But to any rational mind what did u expect to happen? Action and reaction are both equal and opposite. Civilians on both sides are not the ones prosecuting this war and launching rockets, it is the Military factions on either side that are on each other's throats. In the end, unfortunately, Civilians are always likely going to be among the casualties.. really sad.

budaatum:


They don't care about Palestinians. As far as some are concerned Palestinians are not even human beings and deserve to be exterminated, which makes some of us want to burn our Bible at the hypocrisy of reading the same book.

Ibime:


Israel took down a 12 storey building in Gaza with a rocket, and the Palestinians retaliated with about 200 rockets.

I was just reading Daily Mail and their headline read Palestinians fired 130 rockets.

It's only after reading the body of the story, they subtly hid in there that Israel took down a 12 story building killing tens of people first, and this was the retaliation.

Western media has always been biased against the Palestinians with reports that make you think Israel is retaliating when they are the aggressor.

Ladyhippolyta88:

How will he know?
Trump supporters are not that bright anyway they will just go to one deranged right-wing site and read crap come and post them here and call it facts.

How can anyone with the right information about what is going on in Gaza support what the Israeli's are doing.

They started it and I feel Netanyahu is just doing this for power to remove attention from the fact that he is failing to build a coalition and may not be Prime Minister very soon.

It is really sad.Free Palestine for God's sake you don't even have to be Muslim to be sympathetic to what these people are going through.They are second class citizens in their land

JESHAL:





We might not agree on major ideologies and policies but with regards to the issue of the Palestine and Israeli conflict, I believe mordern Israeli's are the aggressors and even if they are not the aggressors and they were provoked by Hamas, their retaliation and deterrence is not proportionate to the conflict at hand because they have superior military might further escalating their problems, as a Christian conservative who operates on logic, critical thinking, facts and Truths, I don't subscribe to the victimhood narrative of mainstream media outlets and Right wing propaganda for Israel , Palestinians are the true victims

obixcel:
How about this UPDATE: President Trump never started a conventional war, and the World was at peace - First U.S President to achieve that. Under Biden, just 100 days in and the middle East is boiling again. Turn on ur TV and see for yourself.

donjazet:

May God bless you so much. You're doing such a wonderful job by publishing this expose. please I beg you to keep it up, you don't know how valuable this is.

benalvino2:


ISIS was the victim too.

If Israel is the stronger military isn't that supposed to be a reason why Palestinians shouldn't be the first to always shoot missiles? Each year they shoot hundreds of missile into Israel. When a nation is set up to be ruled by terrorists group you will not see peace from that nation.

Israel has the right to defend itself.

This war is a religious war and Islam is not a religion that can be tolerant to other religion. Some may call me a bigot again but it is true.

JESHAL:




ISIS was funded by the CIA, Mossad, and Turkish and Saudi intelligence, they were trained, armed, and sponsored by coalition of some Arab nations, USA, Israel and Turkey, their sole purpose is to destabilize the middle East by wrecking havoc and chaos in opposing nations like Iraq,Libya, Iran and Syria, the moderate rebels that were sponsored to topple Asssad and they succeeded in removing Gaddafi during Obama regime, these mordern Israeli are Zionist-Nationalist and extremist who have an hegemonic agenda to dominate the middle East by any means possible via alliance with influential Arab nations like Saudi, UAE, Jordan, etc and also western allies like France, Britain , US


They use the Nazi genocide of Jewish extermination during the world war 2 to justify their aggression to usurp Palestine Land and spread chaos in the middle East also portraying themselves as a victims in the process seeking to return back to their promised Land


I'm a Christian but I don't like the methods and strategies of mordern Israeli , sure Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist para-millitia organizations even both are legitimate government popular among their Palestine and shitte ( infact Lebanon govt recognizes them) base but there agenda is to neutralize the aggression of the Israeli's who are very dangerous willing sponsor ISIS and ISIL to achieve their expansionary and domination objectives


They influence mainstream media and news outlets to push their political agenda

benalvino2:


Palestine was never a state. Israelis are the real owners of that land. The Bible and the Koran can confirm that. Biblican archeological findings also proves it.

When Israel went back to their land to settle. I think UK and the UN make sure they divide the land for both parties. Israel accepts the deal while Palestine rejects the deal. As of today Palestine is still not a state because they reject the deal.

The Arab nations surrounding Israel all reject the deal and pledge to exterminate Israel. Seven Arabic nations went to war with Israel and they lost to Israel. Israel also took some of Egyptian land after that war which they returned back to Egypt.

Hamas has never been for peace. You see Israel as the aggressors because they are powerful but that's not how life works. Woman en can hit a man and harrass him and everyone will not see that woman as a problem. But if the man hits her back and responds everyone will start reminding him that you don't hit a woman as a man.

If it was not for Israeli army or technology do you know if Israel will even exist? You don't seem to talk about all the unprovoked missiles Palestinians shoot almost every week in the past 3 years. Palestinians should embrace peace if they can't fight. There is a reason the walls are built

JESHAL:



I believe and understand the Covenant of Abraham who was a believer in God all mighty and who begotten Ishmaeli ( His first born) and his brother Issac ( the promised son) both Muslims and Jews have claim to Jerusalem the holy place , they must live together in peace

benalvino2:


Like I said Islam is not a very tolerant religion so conflicts because of that holy site will always happen

JESHAL:



Why are you Islamophobic?

benalvino2:


Like I said Islam is not a very tolerant religion so conflicts because of that holy site will always happen

Timiofak:
All I can see from everything

Is the extremism of religion Simple.

benalvino2:


I don't know where you are getting your information from. Palestinians don't even want Israel to exist from the very first day the Israeli state was created.

Israel is or was surrounded by neighbors who pledge to exterminate them and some of them still hold that agenda while some of them are now in working terms with Israel.

I think the problem is Palestinians. If they could accept to live in harmony all this will stop. Palestinians was even crossing into Israel to work and get medical treatments before they started using those privileges to carry out suicide bombing. Israel had to build a wall.

First Palestinians should take back their country from the terrorists groups hamas who runs the country and come to the table and talk peace. Else this conflicts will continue. You cannot be teaching your kids hate... Someone already mentioned. When you do those kids will never see peace till they die.

budaatum:


Hamas was created to oppose the occupation of Palestine by the Jews who were offered the land by the British, so I cant quite understand why the Palestinians should stop fighting those who are stealing their land first.

But I guess your lack of knowledge of history would make you claim an Israel that stopped existing was surrounded.

benalvino2:


This is a good read
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/religion-and-israel-palestinian-conflict-cause-consequence-and-cure

budaatum:


It is not a good read since it says nothing about the creation of modern Israel!

Try this instead
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/state-of-israel-proclaimed

Perhaps you'd understand how those who've owned a land for close to two thousand years might not want some usurpers using the Torah as land title.

benalvino2:


The bold is rubbish. That land has changed hands multiple times and the original settlers are the Israelites.

benalvino2:
Question. Is Palestine a state?
You are saying I lack knowledge of history yet you post this thing does not have a factual backing to it. You don't even know how Hamas came to be

benalvino2:


Who owned what land for two thousand years.

budaatum:


The Palestinians owned the land that is now being disputed! The israelis are stealing more and more of it off them by the day!

Nostradamus1:
Their dead brains may not understand this

budaatum:


You obviously have not read that even Abraham, the so called first Jewish settler, bought a piece of land off the original settlers, so I can't quite understand how the buyer is an original settler.


"Statehood" (country, is the now accepted word by the way), is a western concept imposed on you so you think everywhere must have been one. There are those arguing that Nigeria is not a "state" for the same reason that it was imposed.

As for Hamas, a simple read will educate you on how they evolved from organisations opposing the new state of Israel's land grabbing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas

"Statehood" (country, is the now accepted word by the way), is a western concept imposed on you so you think everywhere must have been one. There are those arguing that Nigeria is not a "state" for the same reason that it was imposed.

budaatum:


The Palestinians owned the land that is now being disputed! The israelis are stealing more and more of it off them by the day!

benalvino2:


Okay, they did not buy it from the Palestinians and if they bought the land it is their land right?

As usual, attacking a strawman again. I am saying what happened in 1948 so I will use state. All the other things you say are irrelevant to our discussion.

Hamas was created is a terrorist cell still trying to carry out the destruction of Israel. They are an extension of the Muslim brotherhood. The war with Israel is not really about land but religion.

Modern Israel has its origins in the Zionism movement, established in the late 19th century by Jews in the Russian Empire who called for the establishment of a territorial Jewish state after enduring persecution. In 1896, Jewish-Austrian journalist Theodor Herzl published an influential political pamphlet called The Jewish State, which argued that the establishment of a Jewish state was the only way of protecting Jews from anti-Semitism.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/state-of-israel-proclaimed

budaatum:


This did not start in 1948, but as far back as the late 1800s after the Great War! Its in the link I gave you, and I just can not bother if you refuse to read!



Fact is, in the 1940s, some people arrived in the land known as Palestine and began to claim it as their own, and cells rose up to oppose them and you now label them terrorist as if you expected them to just say "okay, you have the land" when you were terrorising them to take it off them!

The same was said of Mandela's ANC when they too were fighting to take their land back. Or do you not see the similarities?

By the way, have you let that sidekick of yours know you wrongly claimed voter id was already law in UK? I did mention you so you don't miss it. For your information, we voted on May 6. No id was required.

[b]Palestinian leaders claim that the Palestinians are descended from the Canaanite people who lived in the Land of Canaan before the Israelite tribes settled in it.
What is the source of the name “Palestine?” It is not Arab; it is derived from the name “Palestina,” by which the Roman Emperor Hadrian chose to call the land after the defeat of the Bar Kokhba Revolt in 135 CE. His aim was to erase “Judea.”
According to Palestinian historian Muhammad Y. Muslih, during the entire 400 year period of Ottoman rule (1517-1918), before the British set up the 30-year-long Palestine Mandate, “There was no political unit known as Palestine.” In Arabic, the area was known as al-Ard al-Muqadassa (the holy land), or Surya al-Janubiyya (southern Syria), but not Palestine.
Not a single Palestinian tribe identifies its roots in Canaan; instead, they all see themselves as proud Arabs descended from the most notable Arab tribes of the Hejaz, today’s Iraq, or Yemen. Even the Kanaan family of Nablus locates its origins in Syria. Some Palestinian clans are Kurdish or Egyptian in origin, and in Mount Hebron, there are traditions of Jewish origins.
This study does not deny the right of the Palestinian clans as a whole to define themselves as a Palestinian people. It would be better, however, if the Palestinian leadership were to choose a positive and constructive narrative and not a baseless one that is intended to negate that of the Jews of Israel.[/b]

benalvino2:


Nice propaganda.
But do us a favour and provide the image of both Israel and Palestine when the UN allocate the lands to both side. Then walk us through on how Palestinians lost their land by picking wars with Israel.

Try to reframe from propaganda.
You see the UN plane there. Palestine was never a state, nation or country however you wish to call it.