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Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 9:33am On May 12, 2021 |
Before Israel became a nation, the majority of people dwelling in the region were Palestinians—Arabs who lived in what was then known as Palestine. The land that Abraham claimed God promised him is what is currently causing crisis in Gaza area. Israelites are known to be migrants, that means they migrated to the current place they called their country now Isreal. According to Bible, Isrealites were ruled by a pagan worshippers king, they had contrary belief and migrated from their original place of birth to seek for greener pastures.. The land was land grabbed all in the name of crusade and forceful conversion of people to their belief. They perpetrated so many evil during the time before the uprising of the people they are oppressing hence the birth of the caliphate.. Same way they forced their religion on Africa with cruelty. Israel is the oppressor, land grabber and trouble makers. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Amb1045(m): 9:38am On May 12, 2021 |
Fight them then and stop making noise. The same way Fulani is trying to grab lands in southern of Nigeria. Death to terrorist 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by MsAllison(f): 9:45am On May 12, 2021 |
[s] helinues:[/s] trash 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 9:46am On May 12, 2021 |
MsAllison: Don't just say your usual trash... Dispute what I wrote... Better to wait for other NL's Thanks for passing by 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by MsAllison(f): 9:47am On May 12, 2021 |
[s] helinues:[/s] trash trash trash 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Righteousness2(m): 9:50am On May 12, 2021 |
[s] helinues:[/s] Comprehensive Trash Why not go and take the Land? 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by walosky(m): 9:53am On May 12, 2021 |
helinues: Why is it that your brain is full of dust? 1 Like
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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 9:54am On May 12, 2021 |
Righteousness2: As expected, those who have been fed with dem say dem say will only call the thread trash without disputing what I wrote. Dispute that and leave story 3 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 11:04am On May 12, 2021 |
helinues:The Israelites had been living in that land for over 2,000 years before Muhammad came. And Muhammad even testified to this in your Qur'an: Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَإِذْ قَالَ مُوسٰى لِقَوْمِهِۦ يٰقَوْمِ اذْكُرُوا نِعْمَةَ اللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ إِذْ جَعَلَ فِيكُمْ أَنۢبِيَآءَ وَجَعَلَكُمْ مُّلُوكًا وَءَاتٰىكُمْ مَّا لَمْ يُؤْتِ أَحَدًا مِّنَ الْعٰلَمِينَ "And [mention, O Muhammad], when Moses said to his people, "O my people, remember the favor of Allah upon you when He appointed among you prophets and made you possessors and gave you that which He had not given anyone among the worlds." يٰقَوْمِ ادْخُلُوا الْأَرْضَ الْمُقَدَّسَةَ الَّتِى كَتَبَ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ وَلَا تَرْتَدُّوا عَلٰىٓ أَدْبَارِكُمْ فَتَنْقَلِبُوا خٰسِرِينَ "O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back [from fighting in Allah 's cause] and [thus] become losers."" قَالُوا يٰمُوسٰىٓ إِنَّ فِيهَا قَوْمًا جَبَّارِينَ وَإِنَّا لَنْ نَّدْخُلَهَا حَتّٰى يَخْرُجُوا مِنْهَا فَإِنْ يَخْرُجُوا مِنْهَا فَإِنَّا دٰخِلُونَ "They said, "O Moses, indeed within it is a people of tyrannical strength, and indeed, we will never enter it until they leave it; ...... (QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse20- 22) The Israelites were in this land b4 and after Muhammad. But they were invaded later on .Thus lead to many of them living the land temporarily to seek refuge in Europe . The Israelites came back to their land after the second world wars in 1945. This was acknowledged by the united Nations. There is no record of the Israelites forcing their religion on any nation. The crusade had nothing to do with the Israelites. The truth is that the Arabs caliphates were the ones who were forcing and killing Africans and other nations around them to convert them to Islam. It was the crusaders that stopped these their atrocities. Judaism was only practiced among the Jews only. And Christianity was spread by preaching the words of God with signs and wonders unlike Islam. FOR EXAMPLE Hadith حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى التَّمِيمِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمُ بْنُ أَخْضَرَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَوْنٍ، قَالَ كَتَبْتُ إِلَى نَافِعٍ أَسْأَلُهُ عَنِ الدُّعَاءِ، قَبْلَ الْقِتَالِ قَالَ فَكَتَبَ إِلَىَّ إِنَّمَا كَانَ ذَلِكَ فِي أَوَّلِ الإِسْلاَمِ قَدْ أَغَارَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم عَلَى بَنِي الْمُصْطَلِقِ وَهُمْ غَارُّونَ وَأَنْعَامُهُمْ تُسْقَى عَلَى الْمَاءِ فَقَتَلَ مُقَاتِلَتَهُمْ وَسَبَى سَبْيَهُمْ وَأَصَابَ يَوْمَئِذٍ - قَالَ يَحْيَى أَحْسِبُهُ قَالَ - جُوَيْرِيَةَ - أَوْ قَالَ الْبَتَّةَ - ابْنَةَ الْحَارِثِ وَحَدَّثَنِي هَذَا الْحَدِيثَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ وَكَانَ فِي ذَاكَ الْجَيْشِ. Ibn 'Aun reported: I wrote to Nafi' inquiring from him whether it was necessary to extend (to the disbelievers) an invitation to accept (Islam) before meeting them in fight. He wrote (in reply) to me that it was necessary in the early days of Islam. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water. He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith. Nafi' said that this tradition was related to him by Abdullah b. Umar who (himself) was among the raiding troops. Sahih Muslim 1730 a In-book : Book 32, Hadith 1 USC-MSA web (English) : Book 19, Hadith 4292 (deprecated) Sahih Muslim 3 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 11:12am On May 12, 2021 |
enilove: Israelites are migrants which means they migrated to the region as far back as Mose's time.. God promised Abraham promised land but he couldn't led them until the time of Moses, red sea stuffs is around Gaza area.. When they arrived they conquered the place and other places like Jordan, Egypt, Iraq That gave birth to muslim caliphate who fought back and started Jihadist... The Israelites called the war Crusade while the Caliphate called it Jihad 1 Like |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by obonujoker(m): 11:26am On May 12, 2021 |
helinues: Another rubbish... Why this foolishness?? Do you even know when the crusade started?? Mhen....who be this guy?? Oh! a Buhari supporter....no wonder |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 11:30am On May 12, 2021 |
obonujoker: None of you people have been able to respond to the thread the way it should have been. If you have superior argument,why not present it. NL is for learning now. Waiting to read from you |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 12:02pm On May 12, 2021 |
helinues: Israelites are not Immigrants. It was not their occupations to migrate from countries to countries. Abraham was the ancestor of the Israelites and the Arabs. Are the Arabs immigrants because Abraham left his land of origin to settle in the land God showed him ? No. The Americans , the Yorubas and almost every nation got to their present places as a result of migration. African was not occupied b4 .Some people left their previous lands and settled in these their present places called countries. Historically , it was said that the Yoruba from the west African in Nigeria migrated from Mecca and some said something else. That does not make us immigrants. Secondly , Israel never conquered Egypt and Iraq contrary to your claim. Lastly , when was the crusade ? and how did those Caliphs who lived b4 the crusade came to rescue the Muslims ? How did Muslims spread Islam ? I want answers to these questions. 3 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 12:04pm On May 12, 2021 |
enilove: Where was/is the Abraham's promised land? What's the story about departing red sea into 2 all about? 1 Like |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 12:21pm On May 12, 2021 |
helinues: The promised land is Canaan , present Israel. The Israelites went to Egypt because God wanted them to go their as a sign to show the world that He is God. They were there for some years after Joseph's death they were enslaved by the Egyptians. Genesis 15:13 KJV And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; Exodus 1:13-14 KJV And the Egyptians made the children of Israel to serve with rigour: [14] And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service in the field: all their service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour. 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 12:25pm On May 12, 2021 |
enilove: Very good.. Are you now saying when the Israelites leave the Egypt and migrated to Canaan,they did not meet people in Canaan which are the Arabs and Philistines then now Palestine's? 1 Like |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 12:33pm On May 12, 2021 |
helinues: They were not Arabs nor Philistines : These were the occupiers of the land b4 Israel conquered them and possessed the Land : Genesis 15:18-21 KJV In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: [19] The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, [20] And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, [21] And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites. 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 12:34pm On May 12, 2021 |
enilove: That word conquered,what does it mean? 1 Like |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 12:42pm On May 12, 2021 |
helinues: It means to overcome in battle. Mind you , I did not say they did not fight to possess the land . They possessed the land accordingly and did not spread their religion beyond their territory. This was more than 1500 years b4 Christianity and 2000 years b4 Islam . 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 1:07pm On May 12, 2021 |
enilove: Possessed on whose authority? Empty land or already occupied land? |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 2:17pm On May 12, 2021 |
helinues: On whose authorities did America possessed the land of America , which historically belonged to the Red Indians ? Also , did your Allah not claimed he was the authority that took Israel out of Egypt and asked them to possess it ? 3 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 2:48pm On May 12, 2021 |
enilove: Before you get emotional, get to know that I am not a fan of any of the religion. Back to how America possessed their land, those are the past mistakes that the world have never taken time to correct... Same as the current conflict in Gaza . How did religion get to Africa if not through conquering... Forced beliefs on blacks... How about the slavery all in the name of religion? Those are the things nobody is interested in discussing about. 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Lukuluku69(m): 2:51pm On May 12, 2021 |
enilove: 1. Abraham came from Ur in Chaldea ( Present day Iraq) 2. He settled in Hebron and was clearly called a " Stranger" in that land by the Bible. 3. He had sons ( actually but only one of them settled in that land. The others were settled northward and southward (Edom/Esau and Ishmael and his sons) 4. The Land of Palestine was promised the children of Israel (The Issac branch) on the condition that they worship God ALONE And OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS. As such, the Pagans of the Land were massacred enmasee in order not to pollute them and their way of Life. 5. Israel Repeatedly flout God's commandments and went after other God's. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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