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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:39pm On May 12, 2021
Joezinho:


Christian abbiati. Brad friedel. Van der sar. Mark Schwarzer. Schiemechel. Oliver Kahn. David Seaman, David James, Buffon etc
For me the right phrase is GKs generally play more into their 30s than outfield players. Saying they hit their prime above 30 is very arguable. You used Degea as an exception but check all the top teams around and what age is their GKs? Thibaut Courtios, Ter Stegen, Allison Becker, Andre Onana, Ederson, Jan Oblak, Donarumma etc.

The likes of Casillas, Buffon, Kahn, Nueur, Illoris, Handanovic, Navas, Bravo, Valdez, Barthez etc were world class and at their peak in their 20s, some of them have carried that level into their 30s why many of them didn't.

So that idea that GKs hit their prime in their 30s is a myth.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:41pm On May 12, 2021
afrodoc:


Walter Zenga, Fabian Barthez, Iker Casillas were all past their peak by 31.

Can you guess what they all have in common?
You've said it already smiley
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:42pm On May 12, 2021
KingAlabi:

Oasis007
Dem don chase am from oleout,olein and fence camp.

Na lone wolf now grin
cheesy cheesy cheesy

Lone Wolves are dangerous but can't survive long enough without a pack grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:46pm On May 12, 2021
Joezinho:


Henderson is a lot more commanding and guards the box a lot more than De Gea like other top goalkeepers. De gea is a much better shot stopper and is good in games where we invite a lot of pressure.

But every goalkeeper I've seen since i started watching football peaked in their 30s. I dont see why De Gea would the one goalkeeper to break that trend. Why would we risk losing him in his peak years, for Dean Henderson?

De Gea still has at least 4-5 years of still being a top goalkeeper. Being from the academy doesn’t merit you getting game time, Henderson is not better than De Gea and won’t be for a while.

1. An old dog can’t learn new tricks.
2. Are you sure De Gea hasn’t seen his best days as a goalie? He’s always had weaknesses but those lapses in concentration in the last couple of years which lead to goals were annoying.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:52pm On May 12, 2021
Jürgen Klopp:
"I knew he [Solskjær] had to make changes [against Leicester]. I said 500 times, protests at Manchester that led to this situation, to play Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday is a crime. It's not [the] fault of Solskjær & players. Would I have done same? Yes." #mulive [men]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:52pm On May 12, 2021
hoopLA:

So when my emotions were like that of a pregnant goat, that was friendly fire too,abi?
Oga dont patronize anybody.
Last time I checked, you don't own anybody's right to any view.

Pls stay out of my mentions, and I will yours.

Thank you

LoooL.

Hoopla my gee. How I go dey patronize whole general like you. That was just simple comparison. No vex abeg.

Thunder faya Ole wherever he is. We need to raid that shekpite thread ASAP and burn it to the ground. I’m silently praying they miss out on top 4 and lose the UCL final. I get drafts ...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:53pm On May 12, 2021
@FabrizioRomano: Rumours of David de Gea to AS Roma are 'fake news'. There are no talks or contacts #mulive
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:54pm On May 12, 2021
@FabrizioRomano:
Jadon Sancho wants to move to a top, potentially English, club. Borussia Dortmund are prepared to sell for no less than €85m-€90m. #mufc are still interested. Liverpool are interested too if they sell an attacker #mulive
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:56pm On May 12, 2021
TrebleChamp:
That £190k per week is not friendly to Dortmund at all smiley. Plus the fact that their was no bidding war for him (and most likely won't be this window too), should make Dortmund bring down his fee if their management have any sense..

If they don’t they’ll have to pay that 190 for another season. Will they be able to command a higher tfer fee for him later on?

Watzke won’t be that stvpid. I also pray that United shouldn’t allow them to bully us.

I think they were expecting that tfer to be a repeat of Dembele’s move to Barca. They were disappointed.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:58pm On May 12, 2021
Expert17:


1. Comeback kings cup

2. Away match winning shield

cheesy





Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 6:37pm On May 12, 2021
Leyqute:


1. An old dog can’t learn new tricks.
2. Are you sure De Gea hasn’t seen his best days as a goalie? He’s always had weaknesses but those lapses in concentration in the last couple of years which lead to goals were annoying.

I don't this so sir.. On his day no one comes close to what David De Gea is capable of producing. He has weaknesses in his game like anyone but as a shot stopper he is unrivalled. One of the best I have ever seen & probably will ever see. Form is temporary, class is permanent..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 6:38pm On May 12, 2021
handelex:
For me the right phrase is GKs generally play more into their 30s than outfield players. Saying they hit their prime above 30 is very arguable. You used Degea as an exception but check all the top teams around and what age is their GKs? Thibaut Courtios, Ter Stegen, Allison Becker, Andre Onana, Ederson, Jan Oblak, Donarumma etc.

The likes of Casillas, Buffon, Kahn, Nueur, Illoris, Handanovic, Navas, Bravo, Valdez, Barthez etc were world class and at their peak in their 20s, some of them have carried that level into their 30s why many of them didn't.

So that idea that GKs hit their prime in their 30s is a myth.

Alright bro
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 6:44pm On May 12, 2021
KingAlabi:

Did you see recent times in my write up sad

That's why i added, 'No coach will win consistently if not allowed to build his team, with some kind of freedom and enough time.'

Your 'recent time' is only when he was at Chelsea and some of us know why he didn't achieve optimally. So you shouldn't base your conclusion of him failing next season on that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:57pm On May 12, 2021
handelex:
Solskjær: "It’s about managing the squad now and building momentum, building confidence, making sure we get enough points to get second and then going into the final confident." #mulive

Building confidence to face Villarreal that is 7th in La Liga. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:58pm On May 12, 2021
hoopLA:

So when my emotions were like that of a pregnant goat, that was friendly fire too,abi?
Oga dont patronize anybody.
Last time I checked, you don't own anybody's right to any view.

Pls stay out of my mentions, and I will yours.

Thank you

Ouch, you are wicked!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 7:29pm On May 12, 2021
nitrogen:


Building confidence to face Villarreal that is 7th in La Liga. cheesy
Abeg let him build confidence, we don't want any excuses if he fails to win it. So it won't be because they didn't build confidence that's why they lost the final.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:31pm On May 12, 2021
16 runners up.
I'm actually in sifia peinz. This club has bottled too many championships and trophies in recent memory.

2 UCL finals. 3 FA Cup finals(that I can immediately remember off the top of my head). 2 UEFA Super Cups.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 7:53pm On May 12, 2021
Leyqute:


It would’ve been sweet if the team above Mou during that season hadn’t won like 30 games or so.

I don’t think a team who finished like 19 points behind the league winners deserve any accolade over those who finished 10 points behind them.

It would also have been better had Mou finished with a similar points tally the next season.

If you aggregate the league positions of all managers post Fergie- Ole’s record stands out. This doesn’t mean Ole is the best of the lot, or that he shouldn’t be sacked if he’s found wanting, it only means that his league record is the best post SAF so far. Full stop.

WRONG

Mourinho has the best win % of all our manager post Fergie.

Mourinho

93 games
50 wins
17 losses
26 draws

Ole

94 games
50 wins
18 losses
26 draws


5 of Mourinho losses was in the season that he was sacked. Lmao
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 8:09pm On May 12, 2021
larride:


WRONG

Mourinho has the best win % of all our manager post Fergie.

Mourinho

93 games
50 wins
17 losses
26 draws

Ole

94 games
50 wins
18 losses
26 draws


5 of Mourinho losses was in the season that he was sacked. Lmao

League position at the end of the season not total records. undecided

Liverpool ended the 2018/19 season with 96 points. Of what use is that point to them this season? You think they won’t gladly tfer 10 -15 points from then to now if they could?

Na wah for you larride cheesy You don’t take context into consideration. That’s why you come up with some funny arguments.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 8:17pm On May 12, 2021
airmark:


That's why i added, 'No coach will win consistently if not allowed to build his team, with some kind of freedom and enough time.'

Your 'recent time' is only when he was at Chelsea and some of us know why he didn't achieve optimally. So you shouldn't base your conclusion of him failing next season on that.
Alright I get you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 8:17pm On May 12, 2021
handelex:
cheesy cheesy cheesy

Lone Wolves are dangerous but can't survive long enough without a pack grin
You dey see am enter fight ? cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 8:19pm On May 12, 2021
larride:


WRONG

Mourinho has the best win % of all our manager post Fergie.

Mourinho

93 games
50 wins
17 losses
26 draws

Ole

94 games
50 wins
18 losses
26 draws


5 of Mourinho losses was in the season that he was sacked. Lmao

Are you saying Ole's win record is almost equal to mou( the greatest manager) ?

Just asking. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:20pm On May 12, 2021
cool

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:23pm On May 12, 2021
Manchester United are interested in Atalanta's Cristian Romero as they look to sign a new centre-back this summer.

- Sky
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 8:27pm On May 12, 2021
Leyqute:


League position at the end of the season not total records. undecided

Liverpool ended the 2018/19 season with 96 points. Of what use is that point to them this season? You think they won’t gladly tfer 10 -15 points from then to now if they could?

Na wah for you larride cheesy You don’t take context into consideration. That’s why you come up with some funny arguments.

Lmao. You are only trying to be clever by half bros. Only Mou and Ole has used more than 2yrs with the club Post Fergie.

The highest league position we have finished post Fergie is second.

Mou 2017/18 - 2nd
Ole 2020/21 - Currently 2nd.

The highest league point post Fergie

Mou 2017/18 - 81pts
Highest we can get this season is 79pts.

So I ask again, how is Ole league record best post Fergie. Show workings.

It is this exaggeration that causes this back and forth every time.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 8:27pm On May 12, 2021
KingAlabi:


Are you saying Ole's win record is almost equal to mou( the greatest manager) ?

Just asking. cheesy

Only that Mou was sacked for it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 8:29pm On May 12, 2021
larride:


Only that Mou was sacked for it.
His CV and his output were strangers, I guess that is why, can't say same Ole.

Or dont you think so?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 8:30pm On May 12, 2021
Oasis007:
Manchester United are interested in Atalanta's Cristian Romero as they look to sign a new centre-back this summer.

- Sky
Where all this names dey come from?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 8:31pm On May 12, 2021
Nice one Kepa

Jorginho's mistake
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 8:34pm On May 12, 2021
KingAlabi:

His CV and his output were strangers, I guess that is why, can't say same Ole.

Or dont you think so?

All I know is that Ole hasn’t done better Mou and he needs to be sacked for someone tactically better than him.

It is what it is.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:45pm On May 12, 2021
One of the many reasons why Casey Stoney left the women's team. The way every aspect of this club is being run is a disgrace...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:52pm On May 12, 2021
Of a truth, till Ole wins something atleast he can't be said to have bettered Mourinho's record cos ultimately they'll be judged by trophies.

But when you compare the trajectory of the club at exactly 2 and half years of both manager's tenure, you'll all agree that United were heading for the cleaners with Mou. With Ole the sky is much brighter to look up to.

Mou started well, instead of improving and building on the success of his first season, he went downhill and imploded. On the other hand, Ole started poorly, and has been improving since no matter how folks may want to deny it.

With Mourinho, the curve was going down fast from the initial high, with Ole the curve is gradually but surely going up. We can only complain how slow it's taking but we can't deny it for a fact and his employers sees it that way.

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