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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 12:48pm On May 12, 2021 |
TAO11:Lol! This is the 21st century disappointment fo thinking in this manner! Anyway, linguists dont look for your kind of lame excuse. Beside, the descriptive word for creator in Yoruba language ela/ila is same with both Arabic and ancient Hebrew. So sudden, you forgotten , yoruba do write orunm-ila and Arabs do write il rml(root)~divination. And Hebrew calls Ifaod. ![]() Least I forget, if you think I dont know Arabic,dont I also know ancient hebrew ? A rareknowledge anyone anybody can't know easily. Meanwhile Arabic is a small fry when you compare a language that has left Near East thousands of years but as liturgy presently. A language that, I can read! ![]() Despite your claim on your knowledge of semitic Arabic inscription, so also, I have sheik , who read the exact 1651 Buba Ahmed for me and told me,the word is Yarb/Yarba! And was contesting the identity because lecture in faculty of business administration. Now, if you arent ignorant of these writing,then whydidnt you realise 'Y' is ee sound in semitic to understand the name of yoruba ancestor. Cheers |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 12:53pm On May 12, 2021 |
KingOKON:Idont need to lecture. I am tired of messing up a thread solely meant for it purpose . |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 12:58pm On May 12, 2021 |
Olu317:. My goats will give YOU a proper history of the world and your true origin and not this NONSENSE u r writing |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 1:13pm On May 12, 2021 |
Olu317 I will like you to read this https://www.nairaland.com/6530191/battle-otefan-1830-battle-where. Then let discuss your theory of how Islam got to Yoruba land Take special notes of the NAMES and warriors |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 4:09pm On May 12, 2021 |
Anyone with a shred of IQ who has been following this must have seen that you’ve been exposed as an ignorant sham. But I would do more damage as will be seen below. Olu317:Did you just say “linguists”? You must be dreaming for a living if you think linguists sit down and hallucinate like you’ve been doing. Beside, the descriptive word for creator in Yoruba language ela/ila is same with both Arabic and ancient HebrewNo! What you’ve written is alien to the Yoruba word for “creator”. The Yoruba word for “creator” is “Aṣẹ̀dá,” or “Ẹlẹ́dã”. Stop the fraud. So sudden, you forgotten , yoruba do write orunm-ila and Arabs do write il rml(root)~divination. And Hebrew calls Ifaod.Oh Gosh! Face palms! You need deliverance. I’m serious. Anyways, to educate you before deliverance, the Arabic root word “Ra-Ma-La” has nothing to do with “Orunmila”. The Arabic triliteral root “Ra-Ma-La” means “[he] wove,” or “[he] interknitted”. ![]() The Yoruba word “Orunmila,” on the other hand, literally means “Heaven knows who shall be saved”. Even the so-called Hebrew “Ifoad” that you wrote is probably another sham that you can’t produce any Hebrew dictionary (with a name) to support. Stop hallucinating Olu, cognates are not determined on the basis of apparently similar sounds, or roman orthographies. Cognates are way deeper than such kindergarten outlook. To determine cognates, the languages first have to come from a common immediate parent language. And as far as Yoruba and Arabic/Hebrew languages are concerned, linguists’ conclusion is that Yoruba does not fit into the same language family as these other two. Pastor Olumide Lucas (NOT a linguist by the way) who tried his hands on your type of pseudo-linguistic quest in 1948 was terribly refuted by linguists. Don’t be like Pastor Olumide Lucas, be like linguists. Least I forget, if you think I dont know Arabic, dont I also know ancient hebrew ? A rareknowledge anyone anybody can't know easily.I don’t think you don’t know Arabic. I and you know that you have no clue on Arabic. I have not had the time to personally crosscheck your ridiculous claims on Hebrew, but @macof has done a great job exposing you on that. Meanwhile Arabic is a small fry when you compare a language that has left Near East thousands of years but as liturgy presently. A language that, I can read!Can you retype this in English language? I’m sure you’re just stringing whatever word crosses your mind in a desperate attempt to sound smart. You have no clue the amount of damage you’re doing to your own brain with this fraudulent pursuit you’ve embarked on. Despite your claim on your knowledge of semitic Arabic inscription, so also, I have sheik , who read the exact 1651 Buba Ahmed for me and told me,the word is Yarb/Yarba! And was contesting the identity because lecture in faculty of business administration.First of all Arabic is Arabic. Why the childish stress of typing “Semitic Arabic inscriptions” just to sound smart? Abi there are some Arabic that are not Semitic ni?? Lol. Secondly, it is NOT “sheik,” it is “sheikh”. Having said that, I am very certain that your Sheikh No-Name (whom no one can verify) is in no way an authority in comparison to Fatima Harrak and John Hunwick, who are scholars of classical Arabic manuscripts, and who have prepared that translation of that manuscript. Also, there is no such thing as Buba Ahmed, neither is there anything as 1651 in this context. You need to be helped ASAP! Now, if you arent ignorant of these writing,then whydidnt you realise 'Y' is ee sound in semitic to understand the name of yoruba ancestor.Sighs! “‘Y’ is ee sound in semitic” or what rubbish did I just read?? See if you must learn, the best way to go about it is to come out plain. Admit your ignorance without shame and without mincing words. If you do so, I am willing to carve out some time for you for proper schooling — free of charge. Stop the approach of pushing out crap in the hope that I will reply you with the precise correction. Also Google won’t really help you as much as you think. It will only compound your embarrassment in front of me, and it has been doing so. Come out plain, admit your limit before me (which I’ve noticed already even if you choose not to admit it), then we can agree on a schedule on when and how to begin schooling you. 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 4:41pm On May 12, 2021 |
TAO11:You see,it's from the beggining I saw this coming when you asked me to furnish you my research on my claims. So, all these fruitless effort on this issue remained farther than your understanding . Kindly read to enhance your knowledge on Ori concept through Awo's explanation and one that's worth quoting is on 'Creator' ~Eleda by Babasehinde Ademuleya's account on below screenshot. Orunmila means heaven knows who will be save ? Hysterically because I had mentioned this earlier, that you dont have much knowledge on traditional terms of Yoruba Ifaodu corpus! Oru- Mi e la ( simply decribe how life and light came to manifest from invisible realm to visible realm and it has nothing to do with chaotic missionaries wrong interpretation . People who do not know Bara or Obara is a name of Eṣù or Yeṣùá. Instead, Bara and Ifa are translated as god of mischief. ![]() Do you actually think every word inYoruba dictionary actually connote what is spoken daily ? I will advice to get acquitted with yoruba language ? Are you aware other Yoruba dialects have fewer Arabic influence as compared to Oyo's ? This doesnt mean anything as relating to Northern Hausa but mingling with Arabs at one time and the other. Lastly I have seen the errors in Yoruba christians missionaries dictionaries and it differs from traditional definition of these same power in multidimensional angle working for Godhead (Ori).
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:01pm On May 12, 2021 |
Olu317:First of all, you must stop attaching screeshots of the crappy book you claim to be writing. It does not count as evidence. Secondly, the only rEsEaRcH you may have done is the rEsEaRcH of crap, absurdity, and irrelevancies. You must (going forward) begin to bring authoritative materials to back up whatever joke you’re cracking. And make sure the authoritative material does NOT disgrace you as it has done earlier in the case of your gymnastics with the meaningless “kèrè” Now to the specific issue at hand here, you lied that the Yoruba word for “creator” w.r.t. God is: “ela” or “ila”. You provided no evidence for this claim. No dictionary, no lexicon, nothing, zero. In my reply, I shut down the lie and educated you that the Yoruba word for “creator” w.r.t. God is: “aṣẹ̀dá,” or “ẹlẹ́dã,” or even “adẹ̀dã”. Refer to the attached screenshot of an English-Yoruba lexicon from page 34 of CMS’s “Dictionary of Yoruba Language,” 1913. [s]Orunmila means heaven knows who will be save ? Hysterically because I had mentioned this earlier, that you dont have much knowledge on traditional terms of Yoruba Ifaodu corpus! Oru- Mi e la ( simply decribe how life and light came to manifest from invisible realm to visible realm and it has nothing to do with chaotic missionaries wrong interpretation. People who do not know Bara or Obara is a name of Eṣù or Yeṣùá. Instead, Bara and Ifa are translated as god of mischief. grin And youuse same analogy to define Rumiela[/s]You should be checked into a mental asylum ASAP! I’m not kidding. Go and self report. You’ve been somersaulting from one fraud to another upon exposure. You could not provide one shred of evidence to back up the nonsensical words you’ve been making up all along and claiming as Yoruba words, such as — Ifoadu, Yeṣùá, Rumiela, etc. For the umpteenth time the name “Orunmila” has not a thing in common with the meaningless frauds you’ve been making up. [s]Do you actually think every word inYoruba dictionary actually connote what is spoken daily ? I will advice to get acquitted with yoruba language ? Are you aware other Yoruba dialects have fewer Arabic influence as compared to Oyo's ? This doesnt mean anything as relating to Northern Hausa but mingling with Arabs at one time and the other.[/s]Classical Yoruba dictionaries contain words which are representative of what is spoken at the time. Not the 21st century hallucinations in your head for which you need help. [s]Lastly I have seen the errors in Yoruba christians missionaries dictionaries and it differs from traditional definition of these same power in multidimensional angle working for Godhead (Ori).[/s]You’ve seen error in Yoruba Christian classical dictionaries of Yoruba language from the 1800s. Shebi when I said you’re a psycho, some people may think it’s a joke. It’s not a joke oo. I mean it. Olu, seek help. 1 Like
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 5:07pm On May 12, 2021 |
TAO11:So youhave learned! ![]() ![]()
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:09pm On May 12, 2021 |
Olu317:Is this guy sick or something? Where did I say otherwise that “ẹlẹ́dá” is no longer the word for “creator” — God? If you’re scared to read, can’t you, at least, see the red highlight of the screenshot below?? And that is a page from CMS’s “Dictionary of Yoruba language, published 1913. Your “ila,” “ela” gymnastics is at best unsubstantiated, absurd, and disgraceful. You should be ashamed of yourself. [s]See Ori, Olohun,Ela,Eledumare are same~Manifestation God awesomeness[/s]For the umpteenth time, you must stop attaching the screenshots of the so-called book you’re writing as evidence for your Nairaland craps. Your own so-called book does NOT count as evidence for your own Nairaland crap. Don’t you get it? 1 Like
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 5:37pm On May 12, 2021 |
TAO11:Just reread what you posted! Are you really lettered? Do Yoruba have 'i' ~hi sound? This is because you sneak it in Lol . So easy for you to use absurd words on just something, you arent paid.You see, I am a writer with intense research on the subject matter i posit on. You and I arent competing and nothing I have posted that there is no journal written on them by names I mentioned so far. Anyway, enjoy yourself. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 6:30pm On May 12, 2021 |
Olu317:“Do Yoruba have ‘i’ ~ hi sound?” or what did I just read? What part of my comment does this your ignorant and absurd question relate to? See, it would take years for anyone to save you from yourself — even if you decided to be saved. You better seek urgent help and check in to a mental asylum ASAP. Quit wasting your time on year long hallucinations and delusions which you’ve been tagging as research. Go take care of your mental health. Seek professional help NOW. 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 9:01pm On May 12, 2021 |
KingOKON: Yorubas were not organized before the country Nigeria was formed They lived in clans and came together to fight each other if provoked by a particular clan There was no strong ruler who governed them Their political system was decentralized So when an external culture comes they decide personally to adopt or reject, most clans yoruba found the Islamic religion attractive and accepted it, unlike the benin who had strong political bureaucracy which was politically centralized Their Islamic influence came from the north, they were some fragmented Yoruba muslims before the war of afonja, the war of afonja further expanded it, If not for the britsh arrival most yorubas would Have been practicing islam |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 9:13pm On May 12, 2021 |
gregyboy:Are you for real ? I am not interested in dwelling in this part you intend. No hard feelings. Cheers |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 9:16pm On May 12, 2021 |
TAO11: See brothers fighting themselves KingOKON |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 9:22pm On May 12, 2021 |
gregyboy:Sharrap! That comment of mine was fulfill of advice and education — something alien to Bini dullards. Read it once more for confirmation — slowly this time. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 9:46pm On May 12, 2021 |
TAO11: ![]() Bitter soul Now re-read i made some adjustment on your errors |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 9:58pm On May 12, 2021 |
gregyboy:Okay! 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 11:10pm On May 12, 2021 |
TAO11: Stale |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 11:23pm On May 12, 2021 |
gregyboy:. Long b4 the days of Oduduwa and Obatala we sabi |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 11:35pm On May 12, 2021 |
KingOKON: Naso yoruba war take dey start |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 11:39pm On May 12, 2021 |
gregyboy:. What I want him to know is that the Abo-kis brought Islam to their land, not Arabs. As for them having a central leader, yes they did have but greed was and still remaines their Waterloo. While the Oba words were law and respected in his kingdom, that can't be said of the the land West of the empire who from time immemorial have always been daggers drawn against themselves |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 11:52pm On May 12, 2021 |
KingOKON: They were only good at fighting coward wars within themselves and plucking each others butt hair to provoke each other for a war I do not blame them Their ancestors left them with pitable history And their own generation aim to steal benin great history |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 12:15am On May 13, 2021 |
gregyboy:. You cannot give what you don't have, TAO11 abi TAO12 de form historian, let her form history for her corner outside her enclave she be JJC. The others are on ego tripping ride trying to create something out of nothing |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by macof(m): 1:19am On May 13, 2021 |
TAO11: You too have seen the guy is a slowpoke suffering from some mental problems hindering cognition. He can't process information logically but rather through preconceived sentimental notions, so for him facts are shaped by his super powers of thinking it into reality ![]() ![]() That's how he started with claiming "kèrè" (a non existent word as far as I'm concerned) means proclamation only to post a dictionary screenshot showing only "kéré" meaning small Like how does that help his argument ![]() Somehow "kéré" is supposed to magically transform to "kèrè" and adopt the meaning "proclamation" ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by macof(m): 1:24am On May 13, 2021 |
Olu317: Lol ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 1:57am On May 13, 2021 |
macof:That guy is irredeemable. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 2:00am On May 13, 2021 |
macof:I swear when I read that I was like wait, am I sure this guy is sane? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 8:58am On May 13, 2021 |
macof:Yorubas such as una type make me laugh because you are uneducated linguistically. You people are the set of ignorants that make people assume Yoruba as twisting her oral history. No wonder,Rev Ajayi crowder, who is your mentor and hero did serious damage to support una nonentity ideology of yoruba being originated from West Africa; Present day Nigeria. Lol On the subject matter, kindly help me with any international standard of transcribing the 'i' of Yoruba if it falls within proper Yoruba pronunciation . ìrú ìrú ọbẹ̀ gbẹ̀gírí ![]() ![]() Plainly, International Phonetic Alphabet(IPA)is a system of transcribing the sounds of languages which consists of some Latin and Greek letters (the pattern Yoruba copied) and a variety of additional symbols and diacritics,has shown that the objective of trancribing is to represent each recognisable sound in a unique fashion. The IPA was developed at the end of the last century; the acronym stands for International Phonetic Alphabet. Examples: Yoruba: 'i', being pronunce as e doesnt fall within the correct accent as be. Instead itis 'bi' Standardly 'i' is pronunced as 'ai' 1.Hi/hi= Pronunciation IPA: /haɪ/ 2. By= Pronunciation (British, America) enPR: bī, IPA: /baɪ/ bi-= Pronunciation IPA: /baɪ-/, /bɪ-/ Example Pronunciation (RP, GA) IPA: /aɪ/ (Southern American English) IPA: /aː/ (AU, New Zealand) IPA: /ɑe/ Ignorant TA O11 learn!Come to Benin Republic to learn more from Yoruba's scholars without your copy and paste wannabe tipatipa pseudo Nigeria's Yoruba.No wonder Nigeria's Yoruba has so many errors. Meanwhile, oga at the top combine together to help out too with the sound . I shall turn your knowledge into shred before other Yorubas.Egocentric empty barrels.........!!!
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 9:06am On May 13, 2021 |
TAO11:Let me see how sane you are.Olodo jatijati. Dont mess up this thread for it purpose. Open a thread and dare me. Copy and paste dede - /deɪ//deɪ/ |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 9:38am On May 13, 2021 |
Olu317: Olu317:Another heap of crap as is to be expected. You are the Yoruba equivalent of gregyboy. You are a disgrace. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 10:03am On May 13, 2021 |
TAO11:Yoruba came from Niger River area ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ghost Dna burst your copy and paste lies of oudated aboriginal of all Yorubas. Current research on migration of people back to Africa assert Neanderthal as part of the Gene brought by Yorubas and some other few African into Africa. Go study and do research and stop assumption. This platform is just to post view devoid of derangedas If you dont have life after this platform. So, stop posting outdated information of over a decade that Youba are autochthonous!False at its peak. Who at in any academic Supervisor will ever look into such thesis? A laughing stock beyond comprehension. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 10:31am On May 13, 2021 |
Olu317:First of all, his name is Akintoye NOT Kintoye. I suspect you have your usual inane agenda in mind with that distortion of his name. Also, what does Professor Akintoye know pReSeNtLy? That Yorubas are from Mecca/ Egypt/ Sudan/ Israel? ![]() Well, I have joy to tell you that he is NOT a lunatic as you are. He is a world renowned Professor of African & Yoruba History. ![]() [s]Ghost Dna burst your copy and paste lies of oudated aboriginal of all Yorubas. Current research on migration of people back to Africa assert Neanderthal as part of the Gene brought by Yorubas and some other few African into Africa.Oga stop heaping up cow dung. Must you disgrace yourself further? 1 Like |
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