budaatum:


I bet your manifesto would be to drive me out or at least to hell or into my grave if I come and occupy the land your father inherited from your grandfather and that was passed down to you. And if someone divides your inherited land between us I bet you'd never agree and with your dying breath tell your child to continue the struggle. Or perhaps you are not like that, and would just say that's ok and live peacefully with me while I help myself to more of your land.

Below is some history. I posted it for benalvino2 but doubt he bothered and called you to interpret it to him. Enjoy.

Buda you are really trying for these people.

Well-done.To educate them nor easy

You done the homework I gave you yet?

benalvino2:


How did Christians try to impose Christianity on British people

I asked questions which you have refused to answer.

You have called me dumb, lazy and uneducated because I asked you for proof.

Today you have come again with another one.
If I start delivering facts to you, then you will start making claims for me I did not make.

You will start bringing irrelevant talking points again. Then get angry and indirectly call me names.

If you can't handle discussion don't start it.

The link you quote for us does not refute anything we are saying. I don't think you have read it.

Ladyhippolyta88:

Buda you are really trying for these people.

Well-done.To educate them nor easy

In fact, its impossible to educate them, and since their ignorance does not affect the food on my table, I just give them homework so they can chose to educate themselves or not as opposed to letting them waste my time.

basilico:


Cant have a 70% obesity rate in a population if the populace is malnutrited.

From WHO

As I said earlier a huge portion of you people are uneducated.

budaatum:


I bet your manifesto would be to drive me out or at least to hell or into my grave if I come and occupy the land your father inherited from your grandfather and that was passed down to you. And if someone divides your inherited land between us I bet you'd never agree and with your dying breath tell your child to continue the struggle. Or perhaps you are not like that, and would just say that's ok and live peacefully with me while I help myself to more of your land.

Below is some history. I posted it for benalvino2 but doubt he bothered and called you to interpret it to him. Enjoy.

The 500 families to be evicted in East Jerusalem. I mentioned prolly that the Zionist movement bought that land circa 1875 . And lived there till Jordan overran the West Bank in 1948. Then expelled the Jews. The Jews took over in 1967. Decades later the Jews wanted their land back. The newly created race/state Palestine was to pay rent on the said piece.They refused to pay and are to be evicted. Hence todays clashes.The Supreme Court will rule on whether the Palestinians tenants should be evicted.

Again what are spoils of war? Win territory retain it. Argentina wanted Falklands islands back from the British. Margaret Thatcher fought them in 1982 and won back the islands which today is still British territory despite being thousands of miles from Britain.

Hamas charter. When Israel pulled out if Gaza the Arabs there destroyed every green house left behind. The Hamas charter.Read it here
https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818.htm

The clarion call . From the river to the sea. What does that mean ?
Hamas will never make peace.Ismail Haniyeh says it very well.

Timiofak:


From WHO

As I said earlier a huge portion of you people are uneducated.

45% of children are anaemic and so what are the chances of them becoming obese?
With no electricity, contaminated water And no food

budaatum:


Go to Cyprus and you will see the outrage there in the military zone that is between them.

Turks occupy the Nothern part of Cyprus. They invaded in 1974.
Have I heard you demanding the land back .

Nah. I just hear Palestine .Or is it Jordan?

DissTroy:


Basilico does have a point about Wikipedia (and much of the media being Far Left), and sexist too against men.

For example, all groups which advocate for men's rights are tagged as anti-feminist and misogynist on Wikipedia and the articles are locked. In fact, when you google any male advocacy group, the meta description is always about hate-fueled misogyny. Almost describing them as terrorists.

Also, over the years, hardcore Muslims from North Africa and the Middle East have taken over the Democratic Party, so it's no surprise that their anti-Semitism which is shared across the Muslim world reflects in the Democratic Party. Anti-Semitism is rife amongst Left in the U.S. and Liberals in the U.K.

And since the Left dominate the media and play that "more opportunities for minorities", these Muslim radicals invaded the media too and that's what we are all seeing.

In fact, Twitter and Facebook in the last year have gone on overdrive flagging tweets and posts dimmed unfit for public view by their "review committees". Interesting that these "review committees" seem to target accounts or tweets which do not support the Leftist agenda. I can mention several examples. Heck! If you are being honest, you know these examples.

There's a case for anyone making the blanket statement about big media/tech companies being obviously pro-Left.

These people here don't like facts like this.
Have you seen what they are not putting in children study books?

Liberalism is regression

basilico:


Again what are spoils of war? Win territory retain it. Argentina wanted Falklands islands back from the British. Margaret Thatcher fought them in 1982 and won back the islands which today is still British territory despite being thousands of miles from Britain.

First, the Palestinians were not at war with the Israelites. Palestine was given to the Israelites after the second world war against the wish of the Palestinians. Gambia was offered first.

And the Falklands was never Argentinean, least it was not occupied by them prior to British occupation. The distance is irrelevant.

As for Hamas, as I said:

budaatum:


I bet your manifesto would be to drive me out or at least to hell or into my grave if I come and occupy the land your father inherited from your grandfather and that was passed down to you. And if someone divides your inherited land between us I bet you'd never agree and with your dying breath tell your child to continue the struggle. Or perhaps you are not like that, and would just say that's ok and live peacefully with me while I help myself to more of your land.

Below is some history. I posted it for benalvino2 but doubt he bothered and called you to interpret it to him. Enjoy.

basilico:


Turks occupy the Nothern part of Cyprus. They invaded in 1974.
Have I heard you demanding the land back .

Nah. I just hear Palestine .Or is it Jordan?

I was not demanding Palestinian land back neither until Israel began grabbing more of it and Palestinians yelled for help.

basilico:


The 500 families to be evicted in East Jerusalem. I mentioned prolly that the Zionist movement bought that land circa 1875 . And lived there till Jordan overran the West Bank in 1948. Then expelled the Jews. The Jews took over in 1967. Decades later the Jews wanted their land back. The newly created race/state Palestine was to pay rent on the said piece.They refused to pay and are to be evicted. Hence todays clashes.The Supreme Court will rule on whether the Palestinians tenants should be evicted.

Again what are spoils of war? Win territory retain it. Argentina wanted Falklands islands back from the British. Margaret Thatcher fought them in 1982 and won back the islands which today is still British territory despite being thousands of miles from Britain.

Hamas charter. When Israel pulled out if Gaza the Arabs there destroyed every green house left behind. The Hamas charter.Read it here
https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818.htm

The clarion call . From the river to the sea. What does that mean ?
Hamas will never make peace.Ismail Haniyeh says it very well.

Budaatum problem is I too know.

Watch him make irrelevant points or change to entirely different thing.

budaatum:


First, the Palestinians were not at war with the Israelites. Palestine was given to the Israelites after the second world war against the wish of the Palestinians. Gambia was offered first.

And the Falklands was never Argentinean, least it was not occupied by them prior to British occupation. The distance is irrelevant.

As for Hamas, as I said:

There was no nation as Palestine. That land was occupied by different groups. Mainly refugees.

Why are you sounding like a nation of Palestine exist then UN gave it to Israel.

budaatum:



First, the Palestinians were not at war with the Israelites. Palestine was given to the Israelites after the second world war against the wish of tge Palestinians. Gambia was offered first.

And the Falklands was never Argentinean, least it was not occupied by them prior to British occupation. The distance is irrelevant.

As for Hamas, as I said:

Stop being clever on the sly.
British Mandate Palestine was divided among Jewish community and Arabs in 1947.. Arabs refused to accept the territory now known as Jordan and went to war as soon as Israelis accepted and declared the state of Israel. The Arabs lost to scruffy Jews some of them who had been freed from Hitler concentration camps.
The Israelis won West Bank in 1967 after a five nation attacked the fledging young country.

benalvino2:


There was no nation as Palestine. That land was occupied by different groups. Mainly refugees.

Why are you sounding like a nation of Palestine exist then UN gave it to Israel.

What was the Palestine flag.Their currency.their borders .their national anthem. Their capital city.Their national langauge.

budaatum:


I was not demanding Palestinian land back neither until Israel began grabbing more of it and Palestinians yelled for help.

When were Palestine boundaries defined.
And if they were defined did they accept them?

basilico:


What was the Palestine flag.Their currency.their borders .their national anthem. Their capital city.Their national langauge.

He will say you are being lazy and you should go an educate yourself. But that's a question he can never answer. Israel even took back those land from Egypt and Jordan and give it back to Palestinians if not they would have no Gaza or Westbank.

Timiofak:
Both religions, are pieces of shit

That have caused unnecessary strife all over the world.

religion of peace- yet produced a huge portion of extremists and killers

Religion of love- produced a huge portion of entitled crackheads that believe everyone must obey there teachings or perish.

nonsense.

What is happening now isn't even a religious war between Christianity and Islam but they have successfully used religion to bait people.

Israel is a Jewish state and discriminates Christianity but once it's time to fight Palestine they are able to rally Christians around the world, Palestine has more Christians than Israel

sanpipita:


What is happening now isn't even a religious war between Christianity and Islam but they have successfully used religion to bait people.

Israel is a Jewish state and discriminates Christianity but once it's time to fight Palestine they are able to rally Christians around the world, Palestine has more Christians than Israel

I don't know why you guys are bringing Christianity into this. Why haven't anyone manufactured the word Christianophobic or jewsophobic. We can only manufacture islamaphobic.

basilico:


Stop being clever on the sly.
British Mandate Palestine was divided among Jewish community and Arabs in 1947.. Arabs refused to accept the territory now known as Jordan and went to war as soon as Israelis accepted and declared the state of Israel. The Arabs lost to scruffy Jews some of them who had been freed from Hitler concentration camps.
The Israelis won West Bank in 1967 after a five nation attacked the fledging young country.

You seriously are asking for a history lesson.

Jordan was not a territory but a state since it was established as the Emirate of Transjordan in 1921 by the Hashemite Emir Abdullah I, when it became a British protectorate. Jordan became an independent state officially known as the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan in 1946, and has nothing to do with the disputed land apart from the bit it annexed and eventually handed back, so saying that was the bit given to the Arabs is disingenuous especially if it involves moving them off the land they'd lived on for centuries already!

But progress, I dare say. Those who argued for Israel on here when this began were waving Bible as their land title. You have at least moved on by centuries.

basilico:


When were Palestine boundaries defined.
And if they were defined did they accept them?

Of course they did not accept it! They were moved off the land they had inherited and someone draws a line and you ask them to accept it? Are we not still not accepting the lines drawn by the same people who named us Nigeria or do you really think they drew better lines in Palestine?

Timiofak:
Both religions, are pieces of shit

That have caused unnecessary strife all over the world.

religion of peace- yet produced a huge portion of extremists and killers

Religion of love- produced a huge portion of entitled crackheads that believe everyone must obey there teachings or perish.

nonsense.

True. The argument exposes the nexus between religion and the Middle East crisis/alliance. Take religion away from the equation and most pitched tents would be unbundled.


Also, these days, Liberalism equates extremism. Isn't it curious that the supposed "conservative" Middle Eastern countries the dyslexic leprechaun who was too scared to quote me above mentioned double as the most extremist countries?

Have you ever wondered why these Middle Eastern extremists seem to find solace amongst the "Liberals"? No, folks like him with IQs inversely proportional to the strands of hair in their nostrils fail at deductive reasoning.

Interesting too that most extremist Middle Easterners seem to always throw their weights behind U.S. Liberals in any debate.

I'd recommend he gets therapy daily: A high-five. In the face. With a plank.

Hopefully that'd shake things up the malformed arrangement of bones he calls his skull.

DissTroy:


True. The argument exposes the nexus between religion and the Middle East crisis/alliance. Take religion away from the equation and most pitched tents would be unbundled.


Also, these days, Liberalism equates extremism. Isn't it curious that the supposed "conservative" Middle Eastern countries the dyslexic leprechaun who was too scared to quote me above mentioned double as the most extremist countries?

Have you ever wondered why these Middle Eastern extremists seem to find solace amongst the "Liberals"? No, folks like him with IQs inversely proportional to the strands of hair in their nostrils fail at deductive reasoning.

Interesting too that most extremist Middle Easterners seem to always throw their weights behind U.S. Liberals in any debate.

I'd recommend he gets therapy daily: A high-five. In the face. With a plank.

Hopefully that'd shake things up the malformed arrangement of bones he calls his skull.

”Middle easterners Find solace among liberals”

That's why Republicans and conservatives covered for bin salam ? Yeah

you people must say nonsense

tell me one middle eastern country that allows same-sex or pro-choice, Legalization of marijuana or any popular liberal ideologies.

You people love faux equivalence that makes no sense

Middle easterners are not liberals they are more likely to be conservative, do whatever you like.

I have said it over and over here, Big English doesn't mean you are smart.

A lot of you people don't know the meaning of being liberal.

budaatum:


Of course they did not accept it! They were moved off the land they had inherited and someone draws a line and you ask them to accept it? Are we not still not accepting the lines drawn by the same people who named us Nigeria or do you really think they drew better lines in Palestine?

They would soon tell you it is not the same thing

benalvino2:


I don't know why you guys are bringing Christianity into this. Why haven't anyone manufactured the word Christianophobic or jewsophobic. We can only manufacture islamaphobic.

It's the age-long rallying cry for the extremists both in the Left and the Middle East. Even though Saudi Arabia has been sponsoring terrorism in the same Middle East and Iran has been causing havoc, yell Christianity atop a minaret and the very victims of these atrocities would rally round to fight a common enemy.

It's why they'd suppress the obvious that Israel isn't even a Christian state. Losing that narrative would equate losing the pull for the congregation of murderous extremists worshipping at the altar of hate.

It's why they'd slam you with the Islamophobia tag when you resist their views even before you reveal what your religion is or even religious at all. To them, all Muslims have to hate Christians so put the Christian tag on Israel and it'd further validate the hate.

It's the same ideology Leftist use: All people of colour (blacks especially) have to be Democrats. If you are not (doesn't matter if you are an Independent), you are an "Uncle Tom".

It's why, when asked, I have stated countless times that I'm more of an Independent who leans Right because of the vile ideology/policies of the Left (many Trump supporters were/are Independents), the hermits with gangrened brain nerves would continually try to stick the "Extreme Right" tag on me 'cause that's the only way to rally their other partners-in-foolery when they lose arguments or can't summon any.

Extremists have one playbook. Just one playbook. Understand this and their supposed puzzling nature become as easy to figure out as how a clothesline clip works.

Timiofak:


They would soon tell you it is not the same thing

Or they'll ask me to educate them with "proof" as if evidence makes any difference to them.

They are smart like that. They know that if they waste our time arguing here we would not be busy doing the work to ensure their plans fail.

budaatum:


Or they'll ask me to educate them with "proof" as if evidence makes any difference to them.

They are smart like that. They know that if they waste our time arguing here we would not be busy doing the work to ensure their plans fail.

I don't have time for any intentional stupidity again, but sometimes you would see some things are just annoying, you would be forced too talk

budaatum:

You seriously are asking for a history lesson.

Jordan was not a territory but a state since it was established as the Emirate of Transjordan in 1921 by the Hashemite Emir Abdullah I, when it became a British protectorate. Jordan became an independent state officially known as the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan in 1946, and has nothing to do with the disputed land apart from the bit it annexed and eventually handed back, so saying that was the bit given to the Arabs is disingenuous especially if it involves moving them off the land they'd lived on for centuries already!

But progress, I dare say. Those who argued for Israel on here when this began were waving Bible as their land title. You have at least moved on by centuries.

Lol. Even that would be wrong as Abraham met people in that land when he left Ur (in present day Iraq).

budaatum:


Of course they did not accept it! They were moved off the land they had inherited and someone draws a line and you ask them to accept it? Are we not still not accepting the lines drawn by the same people who named us Nigeria or do you really think they drew better lines in Palestine?

This. We are still suffering from the stupid borders and line they created. There are some places along Benin Republic bordering Nigeria where a family compound has some parts in Nigeria and some parts in Benin Republic

Tdotbluejays:

Lol. Even that would be wrong as Abraham met people in that land when he left Ur (in present day Iraq).

Oh, I did say that already, but you know how they insist on their own alternative facts.

budaatum:


You obviously have not read that even Abraham, the so called first Jewish settler, bought a piece of land off the original settlers, so I can't quite understand how the buyer is an original settler.


"Statehood" (country, is the now accepted word by the way), is a western concept imposed on you so you think everywhere must have been one. There are those arguing that Nigeria is not a "state" for the same reason that it was imposed.

As for Hamas, a simple read will educate you on how they evolved from organisations opposing the new state of Israel's land grabbing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas

budaatum:


Oh, I did say that already, but you know how they insist on their own alternative facts.

I must have missed this post. Thanks

Timiofak:


”Middle easterners Find solace among liberals”

That's why Republicans and conservatives covered for bin salam ? Yeah

you people must say nonsense

tell me one middle eastern country that allows same-sex or pro-choice, Legalization of marijuana or any popular liberal ideologies.

You people love faux equivalence that makes no sense

Middle easterners are not liberals they are more likely to be conservative, do whatever they like.

I have said it over and over here, Big English doesn't mean you are smart.

A lot of you people don't know the meaning of being liberal.

You think the wikipedia editor get sense?He has a reputation on this thread for being very foolish.
I read his nonsense post and just laughed