Why did Nigeria create and emphasise on the existence of a SOUTH SOUTH region without WEST WEST, NORTH NORTH and EAST EAST regions?

Lol... bro, there's no such cardinal direction. The area between Southwest and South points (and also Southeast and South points) is called the Southsouth.

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You cannot have East East or West West cause North and South are the first major divisions. They are then subdivided into East and West. Therefore, they take precedence over the later. This means that whenever the division goes beyond the four cardinal points, you'd start seeing things like SouthWest/SouthEast, and Northwest and Northeast. And if you divide this any further, the two major points (North and South) will repeat themselves to accommodate the break down of the major subdivisions thus South South East and South South West (both are collectively South South).

The question is not why is there no East East/West West (that would be ridiculous). The question is, why did Nigeria adopt South South but no North North (or some other feasible cardinal points). While I can't pretend to know the answer, I believe which of these points adopted by any map depends on the shape of the map and the socio-cultural need for such division. This might explain why Nigeria would have the South South region without points like North North.

Hope this helps.

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Lol... I thought we were discussing some basic Geography. I didn't know the question had some political/cultural undertone. Not my kinda space, I'm out!

WoundedLamb:
Lol... bro, there's no such cardinal direction. The area between Southwest and South points (and also Southeast and South points) is called the Southsouth.

Updated with image.

there is nothing like south South in geography.

It's South or South East or South West. Even if you look at the nigeria map. What we know as south South and south east are one. It's simple South. And nothing east there. Even akwa ibom that is regarded and south South is behind the allaged south east.

The creation of regoins and states in the country is flawed. What do you expect when the north created it all.

Joel3:
there is nothing like south South in geography.

It's South or South East or South West. Even if you look at the nigeria map. What we know as south South and south east are one. It's simple South. And nothing east there. Even akwa ibom that is regarded and south South is behind the allaged south east.

The creation of regoins and states in the country is flawed. What do you expect when the north created it all.

Ok

Justcash:
Why did Nigeria create and emphasise on the existence of a SOUTH SOUTH region without WEST WEST, NORTH NORTH and EAST EAST regions?

just like there is no North Central but still we have one here!

the northern military regime tried to weaken the eastern region by creating SS.

This is what the military regime did illustrated using an analogy

In a family of 10, they separated the father and 4 kids from the rest of the family....and gave them a separate house to live in, the mother and 4 other kids objected to this but had no option but to follow the command because they were forced to. They started living separately since then. The reason why the military did that is to avoid facing the whole family in a fight because it would be hectic trying to defeat the whole family.
These separated family still sees each other as one blood and are eager to become one and cancel the forceful separation and this would be achieved through BIAFRA and they will live happily and even more successful than they were, before being sperated. Smiles

This is a pure distortion of history why you igbo like masturbating on historical events mr man this question is bigger than you ...Even Nnamdi Azikiwe would be turning in his tomb because he caused the whole thing. And mind you south south has never vote along eastern people until just recent time.

Awolowo party has always won south south since amalgamation however because of political bitterness that zik has against Awolowo that is why he suggested that midwest should be carved out from southwest.

EndNigeriaNoow:
the northern military regime tried to weaken the eastern region by creating SS.

This is what the military regime did illustrated using an analogy

In a family of 10, they separated the father and 4 kids from the rest of the family....and gave them a separate house to live in, the mother and 4 other kids objected to this but had no option but to follow the command because they were forced to. They started living separately since then. The reason why the military did that is to avoid facing the whole family in a fight because it would be hectic trying to defeat the whole family.
These separated family still sees each other as one blood and are eager to become one and cancel the forceful separation and this would be achieved through BIAFRA and they will live happily and even more successful than they were, before being sperated. Smiles

This is why your Biafra cannot be attained. Easterners don't even have the balls to do shit alone, they want to drag South South, Igalas ,Ore along.

Yeyerity.

History is about to repeat itself all over again, u people are about to make the same mistake as ojukwu, you are yet to get biafra and already treating SS like spoils of war, I pity any minority tribe that follow una

What about North Central?

its because Nigeria is a zoo.

They are not named using cardinal points, its just for convenience.

Its just regions

In geography, there are South South West and South South East coordinates.

Funny how some comments above consider the whole South in Nigeria as South-East. If the map is analysed geographically, even Bayelsa State falls under the South-West or more specifically, South-South-West.

Geographical coordinates do not determine the indigenous tribes within these locations. Rather, this is determined by Socio-cultural, political, economic ideologies and events.
In the South-West, there are many tribes other than Yoruba. In North-East, many tribes are indigenous other than Kanuri. In the North-West, tribes other than Hausa are indigenous there.
But according Biafra agitators, the SouthEast (and South according to some persons on this thread) should exclusively be Igbo or at best 'Igboid' and must be included in their biafra map.

Geopolitically, not only Nigeria uses the term 'South-South'. Globally, there are Countries which are known as South-South Countries which span from Central America to Asia to the Middle-East.
The UNOSSC is an office in the United Nations which focuses on these Countries.

Quota System, divide and rule mentality by the jihadist with the support of head slamming western zombies.

Why are you people crying more than us


What your business with the south south

And is there anything like NC on the cardinal direction?

It's only in Nigeria that we have south south cus people from the said region can't reason properly

Tinubuadvocate:
This is a pure distortion of history why you igbo like masturbating on historical events mr man this question is bigger than you ...Even Nnamdi Azikiwe would be turning in his tomb because he caused the whole thing. And mind you south south has never vote along eastern people until just recent time.

Awolowo party has always won south south since amalgamation however because of political bitterness that zik has against Awolowo that is why he suggested that midwest should be carved out from southwest.

Yoruba narratives

Yoruba propaganda... which Awolowo and what Awolowo

Iteskiri and Bini Na Dey south south win Awolowo party Dey win

AG win any place for today bayelsa rivers cross river Akwa Ibom


The iteskiri. Urhobo sapele way dem win .. how’s those towns faring today

Yoruba humans go just carry propaganda for head like day na only dem Dey Nigeria

Very careless deceit

Imagine this typical lie from a Yoruba man

Tell us town Awolowo won in the south

Weda Na A G or Upn

tamdun:
History is about to repeat itself all over again, u people are about to make the same mistake as ojukwu, you are yet to get biafra and already treating SS like spoils of war, I pity any minority tribe that follow una

Another Yoruba boy and gibberish

Imagine

Since 1956 Awolowo and Yoruba people having been running same propaganda on south old eastern Nigeria without results

Ever ask how Michael okparA deAled with him and his noise or how north chased him with this same propaganda

Typical sophisticated illiterates full of ignorance full this forum

They go open mouth waaaaaa drop gibberish

Yoruba sef

Propaganda is stale

WoundedLamb:
Lol... bro, there's no such cardinal direction. The area between Southwest and South points (and also Southeast and South points) is called the Southsouth.

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there's no south south

What you have is south south east or south south west....so those in Niger delta as you call it....are they south south east or south south west, or mixture of carved out of the two?

dvdwed:
This is why your Biafra cannot be attained. Easterners don't even have the balls to do shit alone, they want to drag South South, Igalas ,Ore along.

Yeyerity.

Another Yoruba historian

They read their history upside down... Yoruba and their oduduwA narratives

WoundedLamb:
Lol... bro, there's no such cardinal direction. The area between Southwest and South points (and also Southeast and South points) is called the Southsouth.

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What kind of voodoo Geography is this?!

How can there be South-south without a corresponding North-north?!

WoundedLamb:
Lol... bro, there's no such cardinal direction. The area between Southwest and South points (and also Southeast and South points) is called the Southsouth.

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The area between the WSW and the WNW is the west west. You can't be smart by half. Besides there's no cardinal point like SS

Geographically speaking, there is nothing like South-South.
The British gave the Fulanis that fallacious template to deceive and hoodwink the tribes of the Lower Niger.

How can a Cross-riverian think he's more River Niger or Niger-Delta than an Onitsha man?!
How can Ahaba be Niger-Delta and Onitsha be SE?!

Simply divide-and-rule tactics.
It is sad that we the so-called educated Southern Christians fell for this scam.

WoundedLamb:
Lol... bro, there's no such cardinal direction. The area between Southwest and South points (and also Southeast and South points) is called the Southsouth.

Updated with image.

Your so-called image says otherwise.

Show me the South-South cardinal direction/point there.

Justcash:
Why did Nigeria create and emphasise on the existence of a SOUTH SOUTH region without WEST WEST, NORTH NORTH and EAST EAST regions?

South South was a brilliant strategy by general Abacha to further divide the East. When the East is divided, the beneficiaries are the North.

South South was created by Abacha to give some misguided people the illusion that they actually have a Region even though it was all about "divide and rule". The so called South South isn't even recognised by the constitution.

Today, you will see someone shamelessly calling himself a "South South man", a disgraceful name General Sani Abacha created. Today, you will see someone fighting his neighbours in the name of useless connotations such as 'South South' and 'Niger Delta' while the real enemy is up North carting away his resources daily and dominating him.

WoundedLamb:

Ok

Lovely response.

Justcash:
Why did Nigeria create and emphasise on the existence of a SOUTH SOUTH region without WEST WEST, NORTH NORTH and EAST EAST regions?

Ask Alex Ekwueme. He created it that way.

(Actually he gave an interview in which he explained why he made it that way. You can search for it).

Justcash:
Why did Nigeria create and emphasise on the existence of a SOUTH SOUTH region without WEST WEST, NORTH NORTH and EAST EAST regions?

This one too nah somebody pikin? Is this a Noun? I mean is the poster a person, animal, place or thing?

This was originally published years ago, but it was republished after Dr Ekwueme's death in 2017. This is how the 6 geo-political zones were negotiated.

How Ekwueme, Bisi Onabanjo plotted six geopolitical zones from prison

ON NOVEMBER 25, 2017
5:59 AM

The idea of the six geopolitical zones looks brilliant. Was it your idea alone?

The only other person who contributed to it was my friend, Bisi Onabanjo. Two of us discussed this in prison.


It was from there you now took it to the Constitutional Conference where it was adopted?
Well, it wasn’t. But Abacha adopted it. The conference itself didn’t adopt it; they wanted the status quo to remain because it was in the interest of some people to maintain the status quo.


Some have suggested the abolition of the states and for the six geopolitical zones to become the federating bodies. Do you concur?

The states don’t have to be abolished. It is a matter of nomenclature. When we had Eastern Region, we had 12 provinces which Michael Okpara created. Ogoja province, Calabar Province, Uyo Province, Annang Province, Enugu Province, Onitsha Province, Owerri Province, Umuahia Province and Port-Harcourt Province, Degema Province. There were six provinces in the minority areas and six in the Igbo areas, and all these provinces had their provincial commissioners, had their assemblies and had their provincial scholarship boards.

So, it is a matter of nomenclature. The states should be provinces of the regions. I am putting together a book called Nigeria: Thoughts on the provision of a stable polity, and in that book, there is an article by Shehu Shagari that states should become provinces of the regions.

Eventually, when I met with him when I was putting together these ideas, he said that he found that his suggestion was not very well accepted, so he wasn’t pursuing it anymore.



What kind of political structure do you think will make Nigeria politically and economically viable?

Going back to history we negotiated over a decade starting from Ibadan Conference in 1951 up to the conferences in Nigeria in London and so on until independence in 1960 – a ten year period of negotiation and in the end what Nigerians agreed with the colonial masters on what would be the form of government on the basis of which they would be given independence was a federal form of government made up of three regions – North, East and West.

That was the form of government agreed with each region autonomous in many respects and with each region having its own Constitution and the Constitutions of the three regions annexed to the Federal Constitution in one document and with each region being able to develop at its own pace.

You will see for instance, Eastern Region that started as the poorest region, by 1966 the leadership had established agricultural plantations, rubber, cocoa plantations in Cross River State, palm in Anambra, Imo, Rivers and so on and they had industries, like Trans Amadi Industrial Estate in Port Harcourt, they were able to negotiate with foreign countries and were able to build the brewery in Umuahia, ceramic factory in Umuahia, the Calabar Cement Factory and there was development. They were able to build the University of Nigeria before the Federal Government took it over ten years after.

So, each region was given the freedom to exercise its initiative. It was Eastern Region that first started the Pay As You Earn tax in Nigeria. That was the creation of -21- Bon Ejike— the first minister of finance of Eastern Region in 1952 – Pay As You Earn, automatic deduction from salary. It was first started in Eastern Nigeria because when the region was founded they had to find means of raising money. It was in the East that they first started Entertainment Tax, if you went to cinema if it was One and Six, you paid three pence tax to the government.

People used their initiative. If you went to the North you would find groundnut pyramids in Kano everywhere. In the West, cocoa was booming and they used it to invest property in Lagos, Western House, WEMABOD, Cocoa House in Ibadan all that was based on the initiative. Even free education in the West and so on.

I did my analysis while I was in Kirikiri Prison, the only problem with the form of government that we had with that structure was that it was lopsided. The structure of the regions at independence was such that one region, the North was said to have been bigger than the two other regions, East and West and when even Mid-West was created the North was still bigger than East, West and Midwest and in a parliamentary system based on population, the membership of the parliament allocated more seats to Northern Region than to all other regions put together.

If as they did in the North, they all decided to go into one party, a Northern party, and they elected all their legislators on that party, then they would continue to have the leadership of the country for ever which would not be palatable to the rest of the country. That was one fault in the disparity in the size of the regions.

The second problem I discovered was that within each region, you had majority group and a group of minorities. In the West, the Yoruba were the majority group, and the minority group was what grouped together in what became the Midwest. In the East, the Igbo were the majority and the minority group called themselves the COR State – Calabar, Ogoja, Rivers. In the North, Hausa Fulani were the majority group and the minority were mostly the Middle Belt and to some extent, the Kanuri.

So, you had a struggle within each region between the majority and the minority. So, I decided to cure these two problems that we must have parity of regions between the Old North and the Old South and that was why I decided to have parity of geopolitical zones between the North and the South.

And it also helped to have parity between the majority regions and the minority regions; the majority regions being in the Northwest, mostly Hausa-Fulani, Southwest, mostly Yoruba and the Southeast , mostly Igbo; and the minority regions being Northeast where you have the Kanuri with a number of ethnic groups in Bauchi, Gombe, Adamawa and Taraba; and in the North Central you have Benue, Plateau, Nasarawa, Kogi, Kwara, Niger; and in the South you have the minorities in the former Midwestern Region and the minority of the Southeast region who together formed the South-South.

So instead of three regions, you now have six regions; three majority, three minority; three in the North, three in the South – parity between North and South, parity between majority and minority and the apportionment of representation would be as we negotiated with our colonial masters on the basis of which we got our independence.



What of representation at the National Assembly?

That will have to recognise the type of assembly we should have. Before we had a House of Representatives which was a House of the people based on population and we had a Senate which was based on equality of the regions.

So, in a real federation, the lower House represents the equality of all human beings within the country. Like in America, a state like Rhode Island will have two senators, New York will have two senators, California will have two senators, all the states will have two senators showing equality of the states in the upper chamber and equality of human beings means that New York may have 50 men in the House of Representatives whereas Nevada or North Dakota may have just two or three.

So would you go along with those who say that we should adopt a unicameral legislature to reduce cost?

In a federation, it won’t be wise to have one legislative body as you will have nothing to show that all the federating units are equal. It is the upper chamber that signifies the equality of the federating units.

The only problem is that we copied and abused it whereby we have full-time lawmakers. In the First Republic they had only one Long Session which lasted about six weeks for the consideration of the Appropriation Act and then another one for the Supplementary Appropriation Act, so they had two major sessions, and any other session was an emergency session lasting a few days, and they were all part-time members.

When they came, they were quartered in flats LEGCO Flats and they got sitting allowances on top of their salaries and salary wasn’t very much. Many of them were teachers, some local government officials and so on. But now, everybody who goes to the House of Representatives is a full-time person; he needs a fully furnished house, he needs legislative aides, he needs a constituency office.

Yes, all these are supposed to enhance the legislative process, but they cost a lot of money and how far this competence is enhanced is a matter of concern to some well-meaning people, because you find that some of these constituency offices, and there are some around here, you go there, and you just find a table and a chair, and you ask whether this is where a member of the House of Representatives is going to sit down and draft laws to be presented to the National Assembly? So, it is not a matter of having a single chamber just to save cost.

It is a matter of not adopting the American system hook, line, and sinker. But even in America, the congressmen have just modest accommodation in Washington; they take every opportunity to go back to their constituencies to stay with the people who elected them and to brief them on what is happening.

Will you then suggest that we go back to the parliamentary system with part-time legislators?

I am not advocating for a parliamentary system. I am ok with the presidential system, but it doesn’t have to have two chambers with full-time legislators assigned with a lot of staff, having staff at home and staff in Abuja.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/11/ekwueme-bisi-onabanajo-plotted-six-geopolitical-zones-prison/

EndNigeriaNoow:
the northern military regime tried to weaken the eastern region by creating SS.

This is what the military regime did illustrated using an analogy

In a family of 10, they separated the father and 4 kids from the rest of the family....and gave them a separate house to live in, the mother and 4 other kids objected to this but had no option but to follow the command because they were forced to. They started living separately since then. The reason why the military did that is to avoid facing the whole family in a fight because it would be hectic trying to defeat the whole family.
These separated family still sees each other as one blood and are eager to become one and cancel the forceful separation and this would be achieved through BIAFRA and they will live happily and even more successful than they were, before being sperated. Smiles

why do you Easterners always feel anything done by any government is against you?
You feel every other region hate you Easterners, don't you think its time to start thinking there is something wrong with you people?